(A thought process post from a couple weeks ago lol, also when I say spiderverse events I’m talking about the comics)
Rereading spider noir 2020 run and ummm wow they rlly threw the actual chronological timeline out the window Huh. Like the 2020 run is before WW2. The spiderverse events happen after ww2, cause at the beginning of spiderverse it’s referenced that MJ was part of the war effort, WHAT ARE WE DOING. Cause he dies/gets resurrected in spiderverse and the 2020 run references that. WHAT ARE WE DOING?!
Ok, did some research. I lied to you. So MJ was apart of the Lincoln Brigade or smth in Spain. Originally, I just assumed that that was a team/effort during WW2 but it’s not. They were American volunteers who were helping out during the Spanish civil war, which ended in 1939(?). So in all likelyhood MJ doesn’t get back to the states until 1939.
First things first, if MJ is the same age as Peter that puts her at about(assuming 1933 vol.1 HS age 15-18) 21-24 and AUGHHHHH. But either way that means Peter is 21-24 during the beginning of the spiderverse events and the spiderverse events end before WW2 starts in 1939 and the US enters the war in 1941. AND noir 2020 happens BEFORE WW2 aswell. That is too tight of a timeline but I digress(writers YOU’RE KILLING ME).
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[Image description: the epic handshake meme. The left arm is labeled "Xi Shiyong." The right arm is labeled "John Egbert." Their handshake is labeled "Becoming the godlike living embodiment of freedom and ending his story alone and mourning the one person he couldn't save despite all his endless power." End description].
I was going to make a much longer post about this, but my feelings about both characters are frankly Too Big to be concise in any format other than memes.
Anyway, I sure do love a protagonist from a normal happy home that unintentionally fumbles his way into becoming the Unbound God of Perfect Freedom and compartmentalizes all his feelings about being no longer human so hard he doesn't even realize he's having them. Love a guy that rewrites his very universe through a cheat code power that only he has and feels incredibly alone in the happy ending he creates. Love a story about grief. Love a guy that never lets anyone in because playing the lighthearted jokester is all he's ever known and he simply cannot stop doing so.
Though only Shiyong is actually good at pranks.
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if i manage to get real long this run i have to backup this save i cant iamginan actually im going to back it up now. i dornt care
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I am rather reminded that Strands of Webbing does need a proper ending. I am also given to understand that people have started mentioning their own Spiders again on posts.
Seems a decent thing to combine the two and try to work on the next chapter at least…so, without further ado:
The Other Spiders
In rough order of appearance:
Peter Pauker/The Cob: the masked menace of Staten Island, 1787. Carries a sword, known for long-jumps.
Roshni Raj/Jalavai “The Webweaver”: hologram-heavy spider from Navayurka in the year 2670. Much use of illusions, the third member of the “tech support” (along with Peni and Miguel).
Spider-Glitch: the Spider for a Matrix-like world. Mildly exasperated that the multiverse doesn’t come with a blue pill.
Anansi: a version of the African spider-god, prone to easy laughter and the provision of stories. They may save your life one day.
Mary-Jane Watson/Carnage: took over from her friend Steff “Stay” See when the latter died. Both sides agree that Venom (Flash Thompson) is a prat.
Kaine Parker/Webwalker: a surprisingly moral crime boss in 1890s Manhattan. First Spider known to be killed by the Inheritors.
Hida Haraka/Jorōgumo: a young girl in 1840s Japan who happens to be being transmogrified by the spirit of a man-eating golden orb spider. Good at eating bad guys, doesn’t like it much. Looks like Peni’s mother.
Peredur y Parchedig/Spider-Man: protector of the Roman city of Eboracum, later York, and the Britons who live there. Bitten by the Goddess Arianrhod. Likes the Beatles. (Mayday is terribly annoyed at Billie for that.)
Ebenezer Parker/Scion Spider: moneylender in 1874 San Francisco, bitten by a cursed spider hiding in a Hopi idol. Was visited by Peter Parquagh, Peter B. Parker, and Miguel O’Hara on Christmas Eve, and was shanghaied (his words) into becoming a vigilante.
Charles and his 400 siblings/Spiders-Man: Ham’s nephews and nieces in one of 1610-Peter’s old suits. Enough said, really.
J. Jonah Jameson, Jr.: no, really. No masks. A safe home for young mutants, excellent luck on the stock market, and annoying physical strength aside, it’s still the same guy. Annoyingly.
Benjamin P. Parker: for very different reasons, no masks. The son of Earth-1610’s Peter and Mary Jane, born after his father’s death. Miles is the best babysitter in the world.
Olivia Ockham/Spinneret: friend of Mabel Reilly, alias Lady Spider, in 1960s New York. No powers, plenty of webs. Tendency to murder people.
Now, there are more, but they’re more just interpretations of already-existing characters. Not that some of these aren’t, but they’re hopefully less…obvious? I dunno.
In any case, questions or comments are very welcome!
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Guess we'll never know what the other O,T,H,R stands for or what connection the Asayev had with the Freezis facility under Marlon (you know, regarding the whole circumstance of Lamia Asayev and the Zorach family). It sure feels like OSS: Punishment didn't answer that much question as we hoped it would.
I mean, to be perfectly honest I never expected an answer to those particular questions. OTHR I would have expected just as a simple worldbuilding detail if mothy had lingered more on the queen selection testing (which he did not), and the matter of the Freezis pods was a minor note in a one-off short story that only a select few people would have seen (in the Japanese fandom, at least). So I'm not busted up over those.
But yeah, in general, it brought up more questions than it answered.
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