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Also every post made pre-Barbie movie release about Ken is significantly funnier after you actually see it. “Ken would never say!!! He’s a himbo he respects women!!!”… baby girl I have some bad news for you about The Plot of this movie
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Nightwing 83 Review
guess who isn't weeks late this time. my opinion of the series is going up a little bit. it's still not great, but i'm not actively put off by it anymore the way i was after 81. not going to tag as spoilers, but be warned that they are under the cut
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i’m sure you all are well aware of this but now, but dear god i love bruno redondo’s art. like, an unhealthy amount. the pink and blue is getting to be a theme with either him or just this run, but i am definitely enjoying it. the movement in this cover is clearly obvious, but well done. you recoznize right off the bat that the cover was drawn to drag your eyes down the page until you get to the bottom, but you enjoy the whole ride there. 
also, redondo’s way of drawing a character in stages of action so we can see just how much they’re doing in a split second of movement is quickly becoming something i like to see drawn with dick, and any other character that has that sort of ease of movement and body sense, like cass or sin or maybe a super. 
and he’s in action the entire time! there’s shot drawn just to show off a shirtless comic book character, the way nightwing is so often subjected to. he’s shirtless because he’s changing his clothes, and that’s all we see, no more and no less. very practical, very well done. i like it.
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he looks so cute right here oh my god. the little squint, the hair curls. it’s adorable.
but also like. unless melinda has specifically outfitted the door spyhole so that the person on the other side can’t see dick looking through it (and in all honesty she might have) then everyone on the other side can see dick looking through that door. 
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bringing your attention back to the “i can’t see melinda’s fbi file oh no!! it’s redacted!! whatever can we do!!” stupidity. redacted files are child’s play for oracle, and definitely doable for both dick and bruce. so that’s bullshit.
now, melinda apparently grew up with the maroni family, then took down part of the family from the inside. the maroni family is a large and notable presence in gotham, one that bruce pays a respectable amount of attention to. he definitely would have grown suspicious when two members of the maroni family were taken down, and with some investigation, he would have discovered melinda’s plan. and it should go without saying that the majority of things you see batman doing? dick can do it too.
it’s not so much that i don’t like how clever the villains/antiheroes are getting. i don’t like how dc heroes are increasingly written as less intelligent. they seem to be relying on pure fighting skills or luck, which may be the case for a couple heroes, but has never been the case for most of dc’s big name heroes, the bat family included. it’s irritating to me to see this sort of stuff pop up as a major plot point when i know that, if dick or bruce had been written with the amount of skill and power that they canonically possess, this entire mess would have been sorted out years ago.
unrelated but dick and melinda have the same hair
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this may just be me, but i was always under the impression that dick doesn’t really have a “double life???”
yes, he’s talented enough to create enough differences between robin/nightwing and dick grayson’s mannerisms, way of movement, voices, and speech patterns so that it’s very difficult to put the two together.
but nightwing has never been separate from dick grayson, not the way bruce and batman is. he’s always leaned more towards clark in that aspect: his hero persona is an exaggerated, stately, larger-than-life version of who he really is. there’s no second persona, no real “dick grayson identity” and “nightwing identity.” they’re the same person with the same goals, ideas, and skills. one just pretends to abide by the law, and one gives up pretense of that.
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oh good thank god. if he’d trusted her right off the bat (hehe. bat.) i would have slapped him upside the head. at least he’s still got instincts.
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gosh the colouring on this is cool. the red has enough purple and pink tones to it that it doesn’t abruptly ruin the tone of the artwork. but it’s definitely glaring enough to take the reader outside of this personal moment they had slipped into between dick and melinda, to put them back in the present where they’re reminded that oh yea there are people hunting dick down. 
the next panel keeps this up too, in a less severe way. melinda’s bodyguard shows up (i forgot her name sorry :[ ) and subtly places us in the middle of an action scene rather than a private, personal scene.
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laughing so fucking hard have our little vigilantes grown so accustomed to breaking into places that it doesn’t even register as a crime anymore??? tim coming in through the fire escape to pick bernard up for their date and being very much confused as to why bernard is freaking out.
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i really like melinda’s shirt and now despite all the work i have to do and the fucking conference i have to host on monday i want to spend hours scrolling through clothing shops online trying to find this shirt. the mock neck/neckline is so cool i want it
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so roland just assumes that a very dangerous vigilante who is highly talented in combat and a very dangerous bodyguard who is also highly talented in combat had a fight that ended with this very dangerous bodyguard being tied up and she looks completely fine? roland just assumes that her having no visible wounds or bruises means that they got into a fight and she lost that easily? uh. aight then
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dick what are you doing. legitimately what the fuck are you doing. why are you posing oh my god. you are injured and tired and in absolutely no position to go hand to hand with one of main enemies. jesus christ run away or head to lower ground or something. don’t just stand around letting the floodlights show exactly where you are.
i don’t understand what he’s trying to do here??? blockbuster fully bought the story that dick fought them both, won, tried to get info out of them and failed, then hightailed it out of there. he didn’t have to draw roland out for a fight.
but it does look cool. the way the light just highlights his silhouette and the blue parts of his costume does look badass. he does get style points in my book for this.
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w h a t  d i d  i  f u c k i n g  t e l l  y o u ,  d i c k ?
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very classic superhero line and it does sound like something dick would say in a fit of righteous rage but also it makes me laugh so hard because all vigilantes think they’re so powerful that the law doesn’t apply to them. dick vigilantism is illegal. you’re acting above the law and pretending it doesn’t apply to you. hypocritical much?
it happens so often in superhero movies, tv shows, comics, whatever and it makes me giggle every damn time.
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pretty decent comeback but before i start seeing people writing blockbuster as a thug i’m going to remind you that he made a deal with a demon for genius level intellect. if this turns into another bane situation i’m going to be a little miffed. he’s a smart man, which makes him a dangerous and infinitely more interesting enemy for nightwing.
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this is so horribly in character i want to scream. (or. at least. it lines up with one of the versions of nightwing i have in my head.) he’s running right towards the bullets, miraculously doesn’t get shot, while making a sort-of pun. i hate this so much. i love him.
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this is cool. this art is really really cool.
he leaped from a building right towards a helicopter that’s actively shooting at him, but none of the bullets are touching him. none of the corruption of the city can touch him no matter how hard it tries, because he’s too good to be corrupted. Comic Book Logic Can Be Good Sometimes Actually.
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batman’s belt what??? swiss army knife who?? sorry, i only know nightwing’s bright blue escrima.
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this is one of my favourite things about heroes with exceptional abilities, even more so if the hero is human. the things they can do are so far beyond the realm of normal human abilities that it’s equal parts terrifying and awe-inspiring every time they act.
he just used modified grappling wires to hook to the door of a moving helicopter, swung around the helicopter safely without hitting the blades, gained exactly the right momentum to swing upward again right through the opening of helicopter, then fought and tied up the men before they had any idea what was happening. that’s near impossible to do.
it’s stuff like this where i just sort of sigh in contentment. no matter how many times they leave out dick’s detective skills or conveniently forget that he’s actually a master planner and team leader and make him out to be this forgetful dude who makes everything up on the fly because of his “circus roots,” at least they won’t ever take away dick’s sheer physical ability honed to perfection. 
the art, too! in a few panels, dick’s drawn a little lightened or blurred. he’s moving so quickly and fighting so efficiently that he can barely be seen by the enemy. he’s got perfect form all the way through.
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and THIS!
there was a helicopter that had five men shooting at him with what looks like machine guns. most people would be dead. some would run away, and be nimble enough to survive without fatal hits. there are very few people, even in fucking comic books, who can look at that hopeless situation and turn it around so quickly and thoroughly that he benefits from it instead.
i just. love nightwing.
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it was funny the first time as a comic reader aware of the meme. it’s really not anymore. why the hell would you, in universe, be wearing a shirt that has a picture of your boyfriend being hit in the face by his father. 
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okay that was funny. 
look at lil bitewing, so concerned for her human!!! love her sm. 
also a question as to the timeline of things. is nightwing happening before or after urban legends? 
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i was so distracted by dick wearing a robe and briefs and nothing else that i didn’t register the second part until later. he slept for two days?? babs, baby, he recently had a very traumatic brain injury. why do you sound so nonchalant?
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@TIM X COFFEE SHIPPERS GET FUCCCCKKKKEEDDDDD
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ngl i totally forgot about that dude oops
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this comic is giving so many reaction pictures. you know how you always use the worst possible picture of your friend for your friend’s contact picture? i’m just getting so many of these.
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leslie!!! the titans!!! lucius!!! dick going to go see old friends!!!! the titans!!! this part made me so irrationally happy it really did. gar being the one to just. offer dick solutions with open arms. this was the best
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i wish i could just copy and paste this entire scene, but that would take up way too much space, so i’m just going to talk about it instead. 
you gave me my name, nightwing, and you gave me some of the best advice i’ve received in my life: beautiful little throwback to nightwing’s origin. you’d be surprised at the amount of people who don’t know where the name came from, or who don’t know how much clark means to dick. and the fact that dick still looks up to clark as a hero, recognizes that clark isn’t always perfect and yet continues to hold him in such high esteem, and still looks back on advice that clark gave him fondly just warmed my heart so much.
for a man who has fearlessly stood up to darkseid, bruce will do a lot to avoid a conversation: “grrr. i’m the BATMAN. i’m so DARK and MYSTERIOUS. nobody knows the true me. no one ever will. i will be LONELY for the rest of my CURSED LIFE. such is the price of a hero. ignore my farmer himbo husband in the background”
but i don’t think there’s anything heroic about being a billionaire: another nod to how much dick follows clark’s example rather than bruce. yes, this was a very poignant and important criticism, and i think it’s wonderful that this was published in a pretty popular comic book. but the thing is, there is a way to be a heroic billionaire, but only in fictional universes. the way bruce, ollie, t’challa only ever use their wealth to help people. they donate massive amounts of money to charities that they themselves create so they know exactly how the money is being used. they hire people who aren’t likely to get jobs anywhere else and pay them much more than what a base living wage is. they use their power to help push progressive laws and social change. they are helping. 
dick doesn’t fully see it that way. he spent more than half his childhood the son of a billionaire, but still believes that one could be more heroic when one doesn’t have obscene amounts of wealth. whose example do you think he followed to come to that conclusion?
superman looked up to alfred pennyworth?: i mean yea alfred may have been a wildly irresponsible guardian and one hell of an enabler but goddamn if he didn’t love his kid.
you don’t need my input. you’ve thought it all through: ooooooh this line made me grin. for so long, dick’s treated clark as a mentor and a guiding figure. he’s still seen as a kid, an up and coming, snot-nosed titan with dreams of a better world. clark still thinks of him as a kid, despite watching him grow up. but this little line was something i think dick needed sorely to hear. he doesn’t need anyone’s guiding hand on his shoulder, he doesn’t need to ask for permission. he doesn’t need clark to support him the way he did when he was a teenager. he’s all grown up now, and he doesn’t need clark’s help. i imagine it was a bit of a surprise for dick to hear that. 
honestly, i couldn’t think of a better role model: ohhh but it doesn’t stop there. clark just straight up turns the tables on dick. imagine you’re dick, and you’ve looked up to this one hero your entire life, and then one day he turns to you and says that he thinks you’re so kind and smart and worthy of a person that he wants you to mentor his son!? goes to show just how much clark trusts dick.
i swear to god dick probably cries every time he hears clark compliment him because bruce is so rare and sparing with his praise that clark giving him the slightest hint of approval is just a dopamine rush.
also, now deathstroke and superman have both asked nightwing to mentor their kids. the juxtaposition is fuckin hysterical. imagine either of their reactions when they realize what kind of company they’re with
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lets talk colours for a second, because i absolutely adore how classic colour tropes have been subverted in this comic, and in this general run really.
warm tones have usually (usually, not always) been associated with light and comfort and friendship and,,,,,well,,,warmth. whereas cool tones are usually used to unsettle, or make a scene seem colder and put the reader on edge. this varies if a comic only uses cool tones, or only uses warm tones, but if a comic uses both, this is generally well-used.
that isn’t the case in this run.
dark red, orange, and other warm tones have been used to symbolize danger, action, attacks. hot pink isn’t usually included in this colour group, but it’s definitely part of it in this case. in contrast, scenes that have cool colours give us the impression of slipping into a comfortable, calm scene with babs, tim, the titans, and other allies. even the beginning scene with superman has this blue, but then it transitions into something more golden coloured. dawn broke over dick, as his new idea came to light, and that was reflected in the art (and the sunrise setting.)
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have there ever been times when dick’s longed for the comfort of his mask because he didn’t feel confident as dick grayson? i can’t think of any. i may be wrong, but this struck me as pretty ooc.
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am i just??? gay and reading this all wrong??
cause i was under the impression that when someone says they are grateful for your friendship you don’t immediately kiss them. 
or is this like. normal straight mating rituals.
i mean he’s smiling afterward but still babs aren’t you supposed to at least make sure it’s okay first? you guys broke up a while back after you said something along the lines of “i want to be coworkers with you and nothing more because i don’t trust you or feel comfortable around you as a civilian anymore.” like lmao after you say something like that to someone i would assume that you don’t have the permission to just kiss them whenever you want.
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show of hands who else got real sad when they realized dick was talking about himself in this.
sure, he could be referencing the things he’s seen blockbuster pull, and the children on the streets. but “i’ve seen money used for enforcement,” sounds a little too close to dick’s entire life being destroyed by one man threatening the circus to pay protection money for me to completely ignore. and “i’ve seen the poorest and most vulnerable blamed and punished rather than assisted” becomes a lot worse when you remember dick was thrown in juvie for a couple months until bruce was able to obtain legal guardianship, and in there, not a authority figure believed him when he told them his parents were murdered.
he’s lived this before.
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a. mother. fucking. typo.
fucking why
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i mean i’ve stated my distaste for the batfamily groupchat before but like. this is reaching new levels of ridiculousness. jason sounds like he was written by a fanfic writer. tim sounds like he was written by a fanfic writer. steph sounds like she was written by someone who doesn’t know the first thing about steph and wanted to include her for “family points!!!!!” damian’s supposed to be completely off the grid, and everyone’s searching for him. i do love the way cass texts tho.
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well god fuck now i’m crying
dick got a phone call, a sorry, and a thank you out of bruce. i feel so much secondhand happiness for him, if that’s a thing. we’ll just ignore the way bruce looks ugly af and focus on the good parts okay?
and again with the colour symbolism here!
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i’m either going to love this or hate this. who knows, we’ll see.
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something something hearts something something pink is an evil colour something something. i need to know more about this guy but there’s definitely symbolism there. 
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is it just me or does this dude look like the backstabbing traitorous absolutely motherfucking piece of shit villain that killed tadashi hamada in big hero 6?
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MY REVIEW: CAPTAIN MARVEL
MAJOR SPOILERS FOR “Captain Marvel” (2019) FILM & MCU (A:E4) FILMS
SO ONLY READ IF YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY OK WITH BEING SPOILED BEFORE SEEING THE FILM. IF YOU DON’T WANT SPOILERS, TURN AWAY...RIGHT NOW! BECAUSE I’M LETTING THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG! I TALK ABOUT THE FILM, AND THE END CREDITS SCENES & EVERYTHING! 
Here are some of the bits from the early screening I got to see earlier this week: 
The biggest laughs from the room came during the scenes where the 1990s nostalgia kicked in for the audience (I’d say most of the people around me were old enough to remember those days, I did not see many teens being at the event that evening)  - the dial-up internet (taking forever to load) & during certain Goose scenes/moments. 
For me, personally (as someone old enough to remember the 1990s, which is when the film takes place - I was a kid/teen back then) it was simply a trip down on memory lane. The music! (how it was incorporated in the film made me think of GotG & the mixtapes!!), the little details - Blockbuster, Radio Shack, payphones, pagers, dial-up internet, arcade games, popular 1990s toys...  And I am guessing that “nostalgia” plays a big part in me actually finding the film quite likable. Because I am not a superhero film fan. Nor am I a fan of blockbuster films. 
What made the film for me? The 1990s music! The 1990s feel (nostalgia). The cat... Goose, the cat. Goose & Fury! Carol & Fury. The humour...cause unlike Yon-Rogg says to Veers...humour is good! Right from the start...with the Blockbuster crashing & the security guard in the car... to the 1990s references...to Goose... to... a lot more. And yes... every time a 1990s pop-song was incorporated into a scene I thought of GotG and the 1970s/1980s music  - Quills mixtapes.  
Note: If Captain Marvel/Carol & GotG/Peter should ever meet...in one of the MCU universes, then can I request a dance-off scene, or a karaoke contest or just mix-tape (80s vs 90s) contest between them? In whatever form? haha
The man who started it all: Stan Lee. We open the film with the Marvel sign/logo being made of images/scenes of Stan Lee. The pictures will the letters that make up the logo. And then the dedication... to him. 
The Stan Lee actual cameo scene happens pretty early in the film. It’s during the public transport scene. When Carol is looking for the shape-shifting aliens (the old lady from the trailer) she is looking at everyone  as she moves along. there is someone reading “the paper” (actually a script..that little fun nod was too much to reveal right away) & their face is not seen. When the man “peeks out” from behind the “newspaper”, we see that it’s Stan. But what makes the scene is the way “Carol” softly smiles at the man. #Truth
Carol Danver’s/Captain Marvel’s Kree-name Vers (veers... very Dutch) actually comes from her Earth-name. Her name tag was broken into two pieces during the crash 6 years earlier, one part Carol Den... was in Maria’s possession as “the only thing that survived the crash” & the other was in the possession of Yon-Rogg and it said “vers” (end of her last name), and that’s the origins of that name. 
There are several meant-to-be-for-fun-and-laughs scenes. One of them involves Fury & someone else talking about the characters names. Mar-vell or Marvel? One word/name or two words/two-part name? Other characters, too, had names that are well-known from history/literature, and just with adding a dash in the middle. e.g. Minerva Min-Erva
The film is filled with little nods, and details, and small things. There were too many to list them all. But the looks said it all. The props said it all. The set dressings/props (pinball machines, lunchboxes, baseball balls, payphones, pagers, 1990s pop-culture references everywhere) and little looks and facial expressions...that say more than any dialogue would. I don’t know how the younger audience will feel about those things, but those of us born before 1990, who can remember 1995 (the film is mostly set in that year... 6 years after 1989) & the 1990s in  general will most likely become kinda nostalgic & remember their childhood/youth when watching the film. So if nothing else... the film has that... The film is one big 1990s meme. I’d say that’s the most accurate description. 
And I liked how it showcased that it's important to pay attention to detail, and background. Like the scene where Carol finds/sees the photo of the moment before the fatal flight, and focuses on the background... finding herself on the photo. Behind others... 
Next to other details were small details connecting this film to the larger MCU. Nods & mentions of things & people we’re familiar with - the Tesseract, Ronan, Coulson... etc).  
Goose, the cat. For me, someone who is not familiar with the comics & not aware of MCU (outside the films IronMan has been in), that twist was unexpected. When some characters early in meeting Goose suggested that it’s not a cat, but a Flerken (an alien species that has long octopus-like-tentacles coming out of its mouth & can eat anything...no matter the size... and material), I did not expect that to be the truth. So... when it turned out that the Skrull being “afraid” of the “cat”  was not just scenes made to be funny, I quite liked it. Yeah, that’s not a sweet cat..all the time. When Goose wants, she can eat anything (Tesseract) or anyone (bad guys) - it’s like Gooses inside can fill entire universes in it.. 
So... Goose ended up being the shapeshifting alien... and in a way “foreshadowed” the twist reveal about the skrulls - that not all is as it seems, and you can’t judge a book by it’s cover. Goose being not a cat as we saw her, but a flerken was a nice “hint” at how the truth can change with new info added...
Which makes me now think that there is one more possibility of how Thanos can be beaten in MCU/AE4. Goose can just eat him... and all’s done? ;)
The Skrulls: Now...that’s another twist that will most likely be unexpected to others like me, who are not familiar with the Marvel comics/cinematic universe. Though it’s not as unexpected, and there are kind of hints throughout the film telling us that the narrator (Yon-Rogg) cannot be trusted to tell the truth, it was still quite interesting to find out the real story. The Skrulls motives turned out to be not what Jude Law’s character wanted Carol think they were. That was a nice “twist”. And it tied all into Vers training..where Yon-Rogg had been manipulating her mind...in order to keep her true powers under control (think with your head instead of heart - and though I generally don’t agree - I always say mind/facts before heart/feelings, then in this case its fitting... for this character’s story). But...in general... that twist/reveal kinda meant a sudden & bland end to the Kree/Skrull wars storyline idea. That was..IMO... a missed opportunity, and a letdown. It shouldn’t end with “that was it? and there was/won’t be nothing more to it?” 
More 1990s thoughts: the aliens & the secret underground labs & the vaults filled with shelves of files... all made me think of The X-Files...so much. Those visuals... so much like moments from Mulder & Scully’s investigations into “secret government projects”. I found those visual parallels quite... similar. 
Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers vs IronMan/Tony Stark parallels. This was one of the things I personally saw in the film. In Ironman/Avengers we’ve seen & heard it being implied by some characters that Tony is nothing without the suits & the toys/technology. In this film similar thing was suggested about CM/Carol and her “suit” (the powers she literally holds in her hands/palms). But both assumptions are incorrect. Just like Carol proved that she is even more powerful when she isn’t limited by the “in the box” thinking, same applies to Tony - he is more than his suits. I found those parallels to be... interesting & telling. Both characters have humanity, and strength. They both get up every time they fall/fail (as demonstrated, visually, in the montage scene of Carol getting up...every time she “failed”...through the years). So... just like Jude Law’s character is wrong in this film about Carol. certain characters in MCU are also wrong about Tony, when they make similar claims. IMO
I even kinda liked the way the film was set up. How it started with her/Vers unable to sleep (”nightmares” - memories from the time she wads Carol) & knocking on her “friends” door early in the morning.... and later we learn that she used to do the same back on Earth, when Carol used to wake up Maria early in the mornings...to go flying...when they were pilots. To the way the flashbacks/memories from another life were incorporated into the present day events (via “memory extraction”, via dreams, via old photos, via “daydreaming”...) It was kinda fitting for this film and story and character. 
And I liked Carol & Maria’s (and Carol/Monica) friendship/scenes. And all that. The part of the story that revealed who she used to be, and what really happened six years ago... what was that plane crash all about, who was her “mentor” - Mar-Vell and what she really did and what was she working on (that secret technology), who she herself was/is, what’s the deal with skrulls and the technology they were after, who were the team she’d been part of for the past 6 years... etc. There was a lot of content fit into those two hours. 
Other than that...there were also many many unexplained things. And many unanswered questions..and even new questions were raised that fans are trying to find answers to now. Goose’s fate - what happened to Goose - how will Goose’s non-appearance & non-mentioning in the past be explained in future films? The Tesseract and it’s fate - what we know from past MCU films & what we saw in this film... how do these stories fit? ... to name a few bigger ones. The film messes with the MCU timeline & it’s possible that  it’s full of continuity mistakes, because unless some things are explained in future films, then the name Avengers Initiative, the tesseract’s location, SHIELD’S beginning & naming time, and other things... are confusing. 
THE “RANTY” PARTS (IN SEPARATE POST), LINKED  HERE & HERE & HERE
THE END: 
The film ends with Carol using all of her powers ( she was fighting with one hand behind her back until now), not being restricted (to think she has to control or hold back her powers...so she’s able to use them all...and be extremely powerful). And we see her blast off to space... taking the skrulls spaceship...  far away... somewhere in the universe...
And then we...maybe...find out what happened to Fury’s eye. Not really.... cause the official report is made up. As Fury is typing on the computer... and we see him type something... important.. regarding the MCU... Coulson enters with a box of glass eyes...for him to choose (to replace the eye he “lost”, and reveals the official story... but Fury doesn’t really confirm or deny..so I am not completely sure if it’s not just a cover story, and the backstory to the eyepatch is the other one... the one with the cat that the scene implies to. 
Pros: 
The 1990s music & props - nostalgia! (for those of us who are over 25 years old)
The cat!/Goose! (because I like cats) 
Nick/Carol “friendship”
The CGI (as with most current films, the VFX is good quality)
Cons: 
Possibly...Messing up the MCU timeline (Tesseract, Ronan...etc) Though it can be explained in A4/future films via time travel and/or alternate universes. It’s not great, but they can make it believable & not a continuity error.... that it looks like at this point. 
The marketing (I have issues with marketing in general. The hollywood sjw-marketing strategy that does no good - focusing on the cover of the book, not the storytelling & character (development) 
People, who might like this film: 
people, who grew up in the 1990s (kids, teen, youth). The 1990s nostalgia hits you 
people, who like cats 
people, who like (1990s) music being strongly incorporated into scenes
people, who want just a typical mindless blockbuster entertainment from their cinema experience 
People, who most likely won’t like this film that much:* 
comic book fans/people who are familiar with MCU & Marvel comics 
people, who are not fans of continuity issues in film/TV 
people, who prefer the film versions to honor the book/comic canon (not change names, characters, events, locations...etc) 
* have issues with some things 
AND I’LL FINISH WITH THE TWO END CREDIT MCU SPOILERY SCENES 
1. MID-END-CREDIT SCENE
Avengers Headquarters. Captain, Black Widow, Bruce Banner & Rhodey in a room, looking at the device (Furys pager that Carol upgraded in the CM film to have a wider signal range...of at least a few galaxies), trying to figure out what it is & how it works #wedontevenknowwhatthisis
2. POST-CREDIT SCENE: 
Nick Fury’s office. His name  plate on the table. Goose, the cat jumps on the table. The cat looks like its about to “throw up a hairball”... and sure enough...the cat “spits out” something... the blue cube...aka Tesseract. The end. 
ETA: REVIEWS BY OTHERS: 
Brent Hankins @ SpoilerTV   (this review describes the film the best, IMO)
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'Thor: Ragnarok': Inside story on the blockbuster film's improv, cut scenes, and that rumored 90-minute run time
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Chris Hemsworth in Thor: Ragnarok. (Photo: Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures/courtesy Everett Collection)
Earlier this year, a rumor circulated that the run time of Thor: Ragnarok would be 90 minutes, making it by far the shortest of any Marvel Cinematic Universe film. Tell that to editor Zene Baker, however, and he just laughs. As Baker explained to Yahoo Entertainment, there was never a chance that the third Thor film would clock in under two hours, no matter what director Taika Waititi claimed. But even at 130 minutes (credits and two bonus scenes included), Thor: Ragnarok zips along with humor and style. In the film, the superhero god Thor (Chris Hemsworth) must stop Hela (Cate Blanchett), the Goddess of Death, from destroying his glorious home world of Asgard in a prophesied apocalypse (the “Ragnarok” of the title). Before he can get there, the Avenger is imprisoned on a strange planet, where he is reunited with the Hulk (Mark Ruffalo) and makes unlikely allies of a warrior known as Valkyrie (Tessa Thompson), a rock creature called Korg (Waititi, in a hilarious motion-capture performance), and even his mischief-making stepbrother, Loki (Tom Hiddleston).
Before Thor: Ragnarok, a majority of Baker’s film-editing experience was in comedy, collaborating with directors like Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg (This Is the End, The Interview) and Nick Stoller (Neighbors). Since Waititi also came from a comedy background, the two of them, along with co-editor Joel Negron, were well-equipped to bring out the absurdity in Thor’s Shakespearean saga. In a conversation with Yahoo Entertainment, Baker talked about putting together the Hulk-Thor fight, how the end-credits scenes came about, and what was left on the cutting room floor.  [Beware, there are minor spoilers below.]
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The Hulk (voiced by Mark Ruffalo), Thor (Chris Hemsworth), Valkyrie (Tessa Thompson), and Loki (Tom Hiddleston) in Thor: Ragnarok. (Photo: Marvel Studios)
Yahoo Entertainment: This is a really fun movie. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Zene Baker: You’re welcome! [laughs]
What was your reaction to seeing the whole thing in one piece with an actual audience? Oh wow, it was invigorating. It was like seeing a whole brand new movie. Because at that point, keep in mind that we’re finally seeing it with all the visual effects in place, instead of the little placeholders that we have to sometimes put in.
I’d heard a rumor that this movie was going to be 90 minutes long. [laughs] Yeah, Taika started that rumor.
Did he really? Yes. He’s the one that started that rumor.
Was it ever going to be 90 minutes long? Hell no! Ninety minutes — I don’t even know where he got 90 minutes. That’s crazy! He’ll deny this when you interview him. He’ll be like, “Oh, yeah, my intention was always 90 minutes,” in that New Zealand accent of his.
That’s very funny. It is still a little shorter, I think, than most Marvel films. It is, yeah! I think story-wise, we’re like an hour and 54 minutes. Total run time is like 2 hours 10 minutes. But keep in mind there’s a lot of people who worked on the film, so there’s a lot of credits. And tags. You can’t forget about the tags.
How far in advance did Taika know what the tags were going to be? There’s one tag we knew pretty early on, and then another tag was like, “We should try this as a tag.” And that was fairly late in the process.
Was that the Jeff Goldblum one? I’ll let your imagination run wild.
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Jeff Goldblum as The Grandmaster in Thor: Ragnarok (Photo: Marvel Studios)
What kind of stuff had to be taken out to get that run time? There was a heavy amount of plot and humor. So there were some plot points and some little character things that, for the sake of telling a very streamlined and entertaining story, we figured were better left out, honestly.  There were maybe a couple of things explaining Val’s character a little further that we left out. [Tessa Thompson has confirmed that there was more a flashback post-battle scene that suggested she had a female partner.] Some extra things with Korg that, while they were really hilarious, in the greater context of the movie, they started to feel extraneous. And we had to ask ourselves tough questions like, “Do we need it? Nah, we don’t need it, let’s lose it and see how it plays.” And it played better.
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The scene-stealing alien warrior was played by director Taika Waititi. (Photo: Marvel Studios)
That’s a tough job. It’s very tough. Thankfully Taika, Joel Negron, the other editor, and myself — we’re not precious about the extraneous stuff. Even though it’s hard, we all seemed to be on the wavelength of, “What’s going to tell a better story?”
It’s a very funny movie. Were actors encouraged to improvise on some takes? This is my first Marvel movie, so if I had to guess, this one had more improv in the shooting than most other Marvel movies. I’m definitely from a very heavy comedy-improv background for editing, so even though this had a lot of improv, it was still much farther left than what I was typically used to with, you know, Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg as directors, and Nick Stoller for the Neighbors movies. So we all get in there and we all assemble the stuff. We’re trying to put as much in front of Taika as we can without veering too far into a tangent and away from story, but we still want to try to showcase the funnier bits of the improv, because always a golden moment that might surprise everybody. So that’s kind of the idea. And then it’s just workshopping the material further down and further down.
Were there other ways in which doing Thor: Ragnarok was different than doing the comedies you’re better known for? [laughs] Definitely. The biggest change, obviously, is just the sheer immense size of a Marvel project. It’s just a really giant machine. You’ve got a lot of voices in the room. And actually you’re very thankful that the voices in the room are crazy smart. So in some ways it’s challenging due to the amount of voices, but in other ways it’s really streamlined and efficient. I was delighted and surprised at the same time.
I’d love to know what it was like putting together the Hulk-Thor coliseum fight. I assume you didn’t have the final Hulk for at least some of the process, right? True. There are tricks that we’re able to use. Thankfully we live in an age of pre-visualization, so it’s an incredible toolset. Hopefully I’m not dispelling any myths or anything! The Hulk-Thor fight, thankfully, a lot of it was pre-visualized with moving images, with little representations of Thor and Hulk and so forth. It gives you a blueprint to follow, both when shooting and when initially assembling the scene. And then when you start, I call it filling in the gaps, with real footage, you’re making new discoveries as far as, “OK well, he moves faster, he moves slower, he’s got a good joke here so let’s accentuate that joke.” It’s a giant sequence, and definitely Joel and Taika and myself were kind of very much going through that.
Watch: Mark Ruffalo on how he gave voice, and body, to Hulk in ‘Ragnarok’:
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How do you approach balancing the action and effects stuff with the humor? I’ll give a lot of credit to Taika for setting this very humorous tone through the shooting. It was a very light type of thing, and very easygoing. I think being able to set that tone is instrumental and it trickles down very much into the footage you’re going to get, so it kind of makes it easy. And blending humor with some action — this sounds dumb, it sounds like I’m bragging, but it’s always come easily for me. It just kind of works. I’ve always liked that sort of humor blended with action, so I was just very fortunate to be able to exercise that part on this movie.
This might sound like a very uneducated question in terms of what you do, but when you’re dealing with these effects shots that must cost so much money and require so many people to build, do you feel pressure to use more of those shots? Not to give too many trade secrets away, but because of the amount of people who work on each shot, you do have to sort of prioritize sequences, just to kind of keep the schedule going in a way that you’ll be able to complete everything. So have to kind of jump around to, “All right, this sequence is going to need the most work, so let’s try to workshop this one pretty early on.” And thankfully Marvel has resources in that, if for some reason we need to go back and tweak a sequence, we’re able to do that. But yeah, you do sort of have to follow a priority list: This is going to take the most resources, the most people in order for a digital effects artist to render and complete and really bring something to it, so you want to get those sequences out as fast as you can within reason to be able to tell the best story that you can. That sounds like a very rote answer but it’s actually true.
Before Thor: Ragnarok, you edited another demon-destroying-the-world film, This is the End. How would you compare those two apocalypse sequences? One is very, very R-rated and one is very, very not R-rated.
Thor: Ragnarok is now playing in theaters. 
Watch: Director Taika Waititi reveals origin of shirtless Chris Hemsworth scene in ‘Thor: Ragnarok’:
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Read more from Yahoo Entertainment:
‘Thor: Ragnarok’: Your ultimate guide to Easter eggs, callbacks, and in-jokes
Mark Ruffalo explains how he gave voice, and action, to the Hulk in ‘Thor: Ragnarok’
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