#I'm willing to engage in discourse but this isn't discourse. This is bullying.

[fubuwu]

Fuck it. Since I'm being spat on and tarnished by jc antis I'm unashamedly doing call out posts as they have harassed me on all my posts and got their little friends to gang up on me. Starting with this "lovely" person

Calling me an abuse apologist just because I said that madame yu had tough love methods..... I was in no way excusing her abuse towards wwx with that FYI. Wwx wasnt even mentioned in the og post.... Never once denied she was abusive in the post either (in fact i ackowledged her abuse numerous times in the post and how her children act around her. But apparently you willfully missed that part). I said she had tough love methods towards her children. NOT WWX. Wwx was not her child or have you forgotten that? She has a tough love attitude in the sense that she toughens up her kids, expects no nonsense, wants them to strive to do better, get on with it, stiff upper lip attitude etc. This does not mean it's a good parenting tactic.

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Using tough love to describe her parenting technique isn't a compliment. Apparently some of you don't know what it means because tough love, whilst there is love and good intentions behind the actions, it can also have unintended bad consequences on your children and is not a form of love you should expose your child to if you want them to become normal, emotionally stable people.

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It can lead to unhealthy coping mechanisms and suppressing emotions amongst other things I won't go into. I was in no way complimenting her. It was a critique. That should have been obvious. But in your words, ig some of you don't have reading comprehension.

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To accuse me of something so extreme as excusing abuse over a FICTIONAL CHARACTER and trying to get all your friends to agree and jump on my posts because I never explicitly made the above points obvious is what a bully would do. You know nothing about me and decided to make such allegations over a single post. I will not stand for this bullying.

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YOU should be ashamed of your behavior. I've seen your other posts and how you talk about and to REAL PEOPLE.

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You acting all morally superior whilst attacking me and many others like this makes you an abusive person FYI. And I won't sit there and take it from you or your friends.

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Moving on to specimen number two

This person has been spamming my notifications jumping on EVERY post, being disrespectful and pretty much accusing me, an ace person, for being ignorant about MY OWN IDENTITY and using ace stereotypes just because I surmised that jc could be ace due to his lack of interest in romance.

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Echoing the words used by another user in the thread, but denying that such ace persons exist is acephobic in itself. I'm an ace person who isnt interested in relationships outside anything that is close, platonic but meaningful. Many others in the jc fandom say the same thing which is why they see themselves in him. A large portion of the jc fandom are actually ace in fact and we love to see him used in ace rep posts. We're already made to feel like freaks, so to have that thrown in my face is very hurtful. Above all twisting my words and making out I said every ace person hates romance is very disingenuous. I NEVER once said that in the post. I wont have my character attacked and lied about like that.

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Also, once again TWISTING my words, implying I was pissed off about the incel claims when it was so obvious that I was merely asking out of curiosity where these claims come from?? Because it was never implied in the canon text. There was no anger or malice behind my questions. It was all open discussion. I can see now that this was mental gymnastics at play here to justify your hcs that you know are not canon and use it as an excuse to attack my posts with your friends, all because you were proven wrong. You lashed out on what was an otherwise polite discussion. That behavior is all entirely on you.

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Ive only ever been respectful in my posts and they were never done to provoke arguments or hate on others opinions. So to wake up and be accused of all sorts over a fictional character is very hurtful and just shows how terribly low your side of the fandom has to stoop just to prove a point and hate on jc.

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Im not tolerating it and these blatant LIES any longer. I hope other jc antis read these posts and see how nasty you all are. And if anyone thinks this sort of treatment is okay, then you need to look inwardly and step away from the computer. I'm done here.

[ahoyakosi-kape]

EDIT: Seeing all of this pointless nonsense like "a lot of people hate het ships because they aren't willing to engage with fictional relationships that involve women" gives me headaches. I hope you can acknowledge that mlm ships are still important because THEY'RE QUEER, THAT CONSERVATIVES ARE SEEKING TO CENSOR. While also noting that certain "fujoshis" are presenting sexist trash. After decades of heterosexual ships being the norm, it's now "if you hate het ships, that's because you hate women" instead of "hehe, het ships are awesome when they're bi4bi / t4t." The idea that watching men kissing men wears you out is simply embarrassing. Especially if you complain about it publicly. You suddenly sound like a right-wing jerk who hates Pride Month updates on games, even if they have been around longer than their ejaculation. If you see mothers in their 80s watching gay porn, you guys would faint. And no, whining about White homosexual guys cosplaying as Black women isn't the same as being "uncomfortable" with the amount of mlm fanfiction—the former is a real problem because it hurts Black women and the community. It's also a serious situation that White gay men would evoke their Whiteness first and last. Women drawing gay porn should be the least of your problems. If you told me that gay men aren't legitimate because they're males, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Stop propagating radfem talk. As a girl participating in fandom like millions, I acknowledge that it can be challenging to see female characters examined engagingly. It just stings that all the focus is placed on male characters with similar motifs. There are harmful clichés thrown around, like "disposable girlfriend" or "jezebel." It's evident in Arcane fandom. "They make the woman be a fujoshi/cuck so it's accessible to ignore them" is something I've read, and I agree. It's questionable; it's unwarranted. Nonetheless, it's simple to overlook half of their content without coming across as hostile. I know it's absolutely tempting to educate them, to lash out, to call them a "stupid bitch"—but if they're that idiotic, nothing can be pursued. You do not want to waste your IQ. I block some fujoshis that piss me off because it's just common sense. Yet, I keep wondering if there's an appropriate solution for it. Unfortunately, everyone's answers include "ban BL content so fans would be put to shame!" and the fact that it tolerates conservative and puritanical discourse, which backfires into endorsed homophobia (yes, it always does). You struggle to ensure civility in the face of your hatred for yaoi—yaoi that incels and dudebros despise—and are prepared to eradicate it because it is "woke trash." How much are you willing to redefine fictitious heterosexuality as a "feminist empowerment" concept? Is this not insane to you? Are all the discussions about heterosexuality being 'a tool of patriarchy' meant nothing to you? Are all those repugnant comments from dudebros in a Facebook anime fanpage that fuel your spite to create gay shit—gone? Are you really gonna woke-ify heterosexuality? The same material that's weaponised to hurt queerness? It's exasperating that many fans are driving fictional women/of colour away from romance just for White men's yaoi to be the spotlight. I know the problem, it's not for nothing, and we want to provide solutions. But, I'm begging you, with clasped hands and kneeling, there's a suitable method to talk about this without coming out as your reactionary grandfather who despises communism. Don't be soft, but be stern. Don't insinuate yourself with tactless bullying. Be clever. It's not an excuse to indulge homophobia. You have to know when to recognise intersectionality. Some fans are rancid, I know, but queerness is still queerness. Fiction and reality. Saying something like that is literally anti-gay with progressive language. Performative activism has hurt you enough.

Anyway, I think we should all just inject fentanyl into our veins for progressing like this. It's really embarrassing. I think queer people in the 90s would have a stroke seeing us with this behaviour.

[thecurioustale]

Shits Right Out of the Gate

I had an epiphany yesterday! One of those moments where you finally notice something that's just so darn obvious.

There is a tendency on social media, and in activist discourse, and I think among the younger Millennials and generational cohorts younger than them, toward opening posts with a style that's both dictatorial toward and condemning of the intended audience, without preliminary nuance or qualification. The tonality is something like: "You're doing The Thing wrong, you absolute fool, and here's what you're supposed to be doing, you total dumbfuck; any decent person wouldn't even need to be told." Right out of the gate, they're just pure assholes about whatever it is they want—nay, demand—other people to do differently.

I hate that. And I finally noticed this trend.

It's not persuasive. I don't think it's even intended as persuasion. I think it's just disgruntlement, resentment, bossiness, and a form of bullying. There's no attempt at unification, or mutual understanding. There's no sharing of context. There's absolutely no attempt at nuance. And there is, desperately lacking, no goodwill at all.

It's bad behavior, is what it is. Maladjusted, selfish, from people who weren't raised well and didn't independently learn how to be a good person. It's all judgmental contempt and petty demands. And sometimes the demands are well-founded and sometimes they're not—usually it falls annoyingly in the middle—but regardless they are presented in such an off-putting way as to be self-defeating.

We all have our systems for expediently judging a stranger's trustworthiness, character, and so forth. And I do not like people who behave like this. Behavior like this, and the people who practice it without any critical self-awareness of the social pollution they're causing, are one of the larger faults in humankind. And the fact that this style is so common on social media is one of the major contributors, I think, to why I dislike social media so much.

Now that I finally recognize this, I'm going to try and be more deliberate about not engaging with content from people who behave this way, and I am going to be less charitable with the offending content that I do engage with.

That sort of stuff belongs in the trash. And, notwithstanding the inevitable echo chambers of boorish bullies who upvote and redistribute this stuff and force it to persist everywhere in our midst like smog, the trash is where it would substantively end up were it not for people like me taking it seriously. No one who isn't willing to output unreciprocated goodwill is going to take that kind of behavior seriously (except for the aforementioned similarly off-putting people who already fully agree with the demands being made and the style in which these demands are presented, and/or are friends with the offender). And a longstanding trait of mine—I won't call it a "fault," though it functions as a fault here—is that I tend to extend a lot of goodwill to strangers. I need to do less of that. I need to stop wasting time humanizing and dignifying this sort of tactless, petty, demanding, mean behavior.

[bratbarzal]

Hey I know you’re way over speaking about this and you can ignore if you want to I just need to get it off my chest cos this whole Brynn situation is still so raw to me.

So she blocked me today. A few of my friends too and it seems like some other people who I follow or am moots with who spoke up about the whole drama. And I know it shouldn’t bother me but I didn’t do anything wrong? I just reblogged some stuff at the time and answered an anon I think but her friend blocked me too and I just get really uncomfortable feeling like I’m the one in the wrong.

Like she comes back and is posting the same old stuff and active in the tags and I get that she apologized but like? IDK jumping straight back into her bullshit and ignoring any real criticism is just so weird to me? And seeing how people are so accepting of her and quick to start sending her asks and pictures and content makes me sad? IDK I don’t get that sort of response to anything I post no matter how hard I try and it just gets to me sometimes I think. Like it doesn’t matter what she does she still has this power.

Sorry for bringing this to you I just don’t know how else to express my thoughts and I remember you responding to something similar ♥️

if someone wants to live within a vacuum of their own blissful ignorance to their actions there’s not much anyone can really do to stop it hahaha

I get that it’s upsetting to think you’ve been blocked for no reason by someone but at the end of the day she can block whoever she wants just as much as you can

my personal opinion on it is that she has no interest in the accountability she claims or she would have reached out to people who she upset (not talking about myself I never knew her and had her blocked anyway so pls don’t think I’m taking this personally or inserting myself I’m just answering an ask but about people I know were her mutuals or her friends and who did speak out and ended up being blocked), and like I said the other day, claiming to want peace and love and rainbows and ignoring the ways she hurt and continues to hurt those specific people is hypocritical and disrespectful

I don’t understand why she’d cause such a stir to come back so quick and block half the community and only engage with people who enable her but I obviously just deal with life different and I’m not in her head hahaha like I also said I do genuinely hope there’s people still in her life who are willing to tell her right from wrong and hold her to account bc I think everybody needs that - I’m sure there is and I’m sure they’re doing so privately bc that’s how friendship works lol but yeah her public actions aren’t indicative of her actually growing and holding herself accountable for what she did but that’s not my business atp

it probably will sort of suck to see her back at her old actions so quick and getting engagement but if people fall for it all that’s on them - you can’t compare yourself to someone who is so intent on doing things the wrong way if that makes sense, they’re always gonna be able to sneak their way up because they have no regard for the consequences of their actions and that’s the difference between you and them! there's a gross sort of manipulative vibe about calling anyone who speaks on it a bully when she refuses to properly address what she did, how long she did it for, and how much content she stole, and covering that up is what leads to people being quick to forgiveness because they don't know the extent of it - and in some cases, honestly, they just don't care which is sad but what can we do lol

all in all at least you can hopefully just ignore her presence now!! I do understand where you're coming from and I hope you don't think I'm dismissing you in any way but us all staying stuck in this situation isn't healthy and maybe it's for the best she's separating herself

my space on this platform is filled with differing opinions, meaningful conversation and intelligent discourse, and it might not always be peaceful, it might not always be loving, it might not always be what I want to see or hear, but it makes me a better person for being in it and seeing it all - and that's what matters to me - I don't think blocking anybody who dares to speak up about the wrongs she did is creating a similar space for her and that's all I really have to say

I hope you manage to create a space that's the same, and I hope the engagement follows, and you seem like you're going about things the right way on here so I hope you start to see the rewards of that!! I'm sorry you feel like you're in the wrong, you're certainly not, and you're certainly not alone in your feelings, either - I'm always here if you need to talk it out again 💕

[djregular]

X-Post from my Cohost: Friday's Garbage

[If you'd like to follow me at Cohost, I've been trying to put stuff there when I wanna have a think about things and go long. As an example, I wrote a little bit about JPEGMAFIA and Danny Brown's collaborative album. This was just when I was raw about bad stuff happening and Cohost just happened to be where I landed. I still stand by all of it, and got a little spicy about TTRPG/D&D Twitter discourse.]

In personal work news, which I very rarely divulge, my team has become the victim of workplace politics, and I've been informed that among my org, there's a smear campaign in progress against us. I'm unable to provide any additional context, but know that this is essentially like the bullied kid in class finding the only kid with less status than them, then picking on them. (Editor's note: I'll add a little bit of context to note that I'm actually in a position that is very directly being threatened by tech's insipid, short-sighted rush to embrace AI. I won't say where I work, but if you know, it's especially embarrassing for the company.)

Waypoint was a victim of the Vice layoffs, and they'll be shuttering after June 2nd. One of the last bastions of great video game writing among news orgs, but also a bunch of great thinkers and a (via their successful subscription service) proven draw as personalities. They beat the odds by hanging around this long, but in a just world they wouldn't have to worry about the odds at all.

TTRPG Twitter are all slap-boxing with each other over WotC's/Hasbro's usage of Pinkertons to track down and intimidate a YouTuber over "stolen" Magic cards. I've seen people speaking on behalf of influencers and freelancers (but never actual full-time employees, who also don't seem to be targets ever) that work with WotC regularly invoke "harassment campaigns" and "smear campaigns" when given the lightest criticism about continuing to take opportunities from the company in the wake of bad actions. Essentially painting anyone who might point out the ethical problems inherent in working for WotC as bullies who are punching down. On the other side, I've seen plenty of people who've made "spitting vitriol at anyone who's ever looked at Wizards" their entire personality online do things like make up people who say things like, "I think it's okay that WotC employs the Pinkertons to harass YouTubers" to get mad at. My take:

It should go without saying that for influencers and the like, y'all should be able to sit with the idea that you can't "no ethical consumption under capitalism" your way out of every time someone critiques your choices, and that people maybe not being willing to absolve you of what they perceive as an ethical lapse isn't the same as harassment.

For the folks who are doing the criticizing: 1) Acknowledge that there are assholes who are legitimately harassing people who're influencers, not because of any fervor for ethical standards, but because of all the normal shitty reasons they pick at highly visible (but often not well-paid or protected) people in the nerd hobbyist space. Don't be willfully obtuse, and maybe consider turning the bulk of your ire on people whose cheques from Wizards/Hasbro are salaried. 2) Don't lie and claim these people are really out here throwing up gang signs for WotC and explicitly advocating for their bad actions. You can pretty eloquently draw the line to them being knowingly or unknowingly complicit in them without making shit up so you can talk spicy on Twitter. "I think it sucks that you continue to associate with Wizards, even as they continually do things that are actively harmful to the hobby and its community" is pretty easy to say without making shit up. 3) Again, maybe consider what good engaging these folks does vs. actually taking aim at the C-suite folks who are really making this shit happen. But as we all know, the latter aren't nearly as visible on Twitter as the former, are they?

I hate today more than words can express, truly.

[maniacwatchestheworld]

Hi! Just wanted to say that I don't think that you were in the wrong for the Audio Adventures "i sleep, real shit" meme. I kind of took it as to mean that you preferred Harvey's story over the Joker's... not that you hated the Joker.

Still, I thought that your response was very well thought out and articulated in your reblog and I wanted to congratulate you on that!

On the other hand, drama in the Batman: The Audio Adventures fandom means that it is growing haha... so maybe that's a good sign?

Yeah. As I had detailed in my second reblog, I don't actually hate the Joker at all. I'm mostly apathetic to ambivalent about him...? And if you actually look at my blog, the entire reason I made that meme was because I was entertained by how I fell asleep while listening to the season 1 finale of the Batman Audio Adventures. I thought that was amusing, it made me feel like the meme, and so I decided to actually make the meme for real! You can see that the post I made immediately before I posted that meme was me talking about how I fell asleep while listening to the season 1 finale. I sleep not out of malice towards the Joker and his fans, but rather because I'm just not as interested in what's going on with the Joker when compared to what's going on with Two-Face! There wasn't really any malice behind my actions, and I think it was a pretty tame meme regardless. I didn't think that anyone would actually get offended by it, as it's all in good fun and people are perfectly within their rights to disagree with my post. So needless to say, I was surprised to see someone reacting SO adversely to my post!

I'll be honest, I was very tempted to just ignore the response post. But I do always try to treat everyone I can with respect and courtesy, and it bothered me that they were accusing me of having attitudes that simply don't reflect who I am at all. To stay silent, I felt, would only make that person feel like they were correct in their snapshot judgement of me. That I'm just here to pick on Joker fans, when that simply isn't true! I have preferences and am biased towards those preferences. But generally speaking I'm not interested in openly bashing things that I dislike publicly here on the internet! This blog will never become a hate blog. I may express frustrations here and there, but I tend to ignore things that I dislike, and prefer to discuss things that I do like. When something bothers me, I prefer to think of ways to fix it, or find a way to engage with it that suits me better than to just spread anger and hatred towards it. And I don't want people to think that I would ever be the kind of person who wants to spread hate on my blog! I have better things to do with my time and energy on this blog. This is just a place for me to share thoughts and ideas I have for my own sake and enjoyment. And I just don't find engaging in hate or discourse to be very fun.

I've been here on the internet and Tumblr specifically for a very long time at this point. I'm a Tumblr ancient. And I've always found that people acting in the way that I saw tends to be the result of someone just having a bad day and lashing out because of it. I will never begrudge someone for having a bad day. And if the Joker community really is a chronically bullied group like that person was implying, they have nothing but my sympathy, and I would not want to exacerbate the problem! Again, I have no interest in bullying other people on this blog of mine, and if I do something wrong, I am always happy to try and change my thoughts and behavior to make things right. I want to learn and am always grateful to anyone who's willing to work with and teach me! It's always good to hear people's thoughts and opinions that differ from my own! And the fact that you think that I did a good job with my response is hopefully an indication that I'm on the right track. So thank you for the compliment. I'm just trying my best. >.<

And yeah... I've been very surprised with the amount of interaction the Batman fandom has been giving me in my short time here so far! I'm always craving interaction! But if this is a sign of things to come... On one hand, I am REALLY enjoying the Batman Audio Adventures and so am glad that this is a sign of them gaining more popularity! But at the same time, discourse is just... Exhausting and I'd rather not be forced into engaging with it if I don't have to. >.<