#Macro cosmos Rose

[sheepishzoologist]

this game

[chekensheppppp]

I saw this in my dream and I had to make it real. I will not elaborate further.

[batscrem]

Most people wouldn't think about how the big business CEOs in the Pokemon world would interact with each other.

But I am not most people.

Despite getting along with Joseph Stone of Devon Corporation, Clay would sooner deck Rose than ever work with him.

[incorrect-pokevillains]

Leon: Did you know any of this while you were in charge?

Rose: I'm starting to think I wasn't very good at my job...

[kawaiilovedreamer]

Pokemon masters ex villain arc end poster.

[jadeazora]

I think I got this accurate enough lol (Piers isn't really a villain himself btw, I still consider him the leader of a more mildly antagonistic group tho)

Maxie's is in reference to this btw:

[plasmawillfreeyou]

EVERY Pokemon Villain glancing at your balls

[part one/part two]

[bugtypesneaky]

a look, a touch and a spark

[motherofsephy]

He is the Rose Bride. 🪑🧔🏾‍♂️🌹

[spittyfishy]

I think this looked better in my head lol, but it was still fun!

[dubstepdragon]

Villain polycule chart just dropped

[sshrinkydink]

HEY!

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We currently stand at over 70 people and everyone here is super friendly and welcoming, its a really great place if you're looking to make new friends.

(Just a disclaimer, you can only join this server if you are currently under 18! If you turn 18 while here you will not be kicked out)

Some of the best quotes from our server 😭

[bouncyenvos]

hahaha nice

[incorrect-pokevillains]

Rose: Question, how long does a stick of deodorant last you?

Guzma: Usually only three or four bites

Rose: Why do I even bother

[pokemon-my-beloved]

the differences between teams flare, skull, yell, and star (and why only some of them work)

post under the cut because there is. a lot to say

so we all know that the villains in pokemon peaked with team plasma right (this is a matter of opinion but that's beyond the point)

and after team plasma, we have team flare. and team flare is. different.

they were the first evil ceo, unless you count cyrus, which i don't because cyrus (in my mind) was more about nihilism than corporate greed or anything

and lysandre is too, kinda? he's interesting enough, but literally everyone else in the team is boring as shit, especially compared to every team that came before them

so in kalos, we've got a villain team that doesn't really know what they've signed up for aside from the leader (probably it's been a hot minute. the admins might know), which makes sense, but the grunts and admins aren't entertaining at all. they're built up as a threat and exactly one of them is. it doesn't work

(this (imo) applies to most of gen 6's story but that's besides the point)

and then in alola, we've got team skull! this was the first generation i paid attention to the buildup for, and if i remember correctly, before release they were built up as the villain team, but not a threatening one. and in the game, that follows. no one really sees them as a threat on their own, cause they aren't.

but we've also got the aether foundation! and they were built up as mysterious but benevolent pre-release and in-game (didn't necessarily succeed but they tried well enough), and this was the first "twist villain" that pokemon did, and it was new and fresh and worked

and team skull isn't a threat. but they are an annoyance, and that's exactly what's needed during the storming of aether paradise. by allying team skull with the aether foundation, it gives both of them more of what they need most (seeming like a threat for team skull and character for aether foundation)

bonus points for aether foundation working well with the buildup because while almost everyone there is corrupt, we've still got wicke, who is genuinely benevolent and provides some nice contrast

the combination (as well as the fact that all of these dynamics were new) really sells the whole thing for me. it works

then we get to team yell :/

team yell was (pre-release and a little bit in-game) built up as villains and they Aren't. at all

and then at the same time, they expect us to believe that macro cosmos is totally fine and benevolent and nothing is wrong with anything they do? what the fuck

the part where you work with team yell to storm macro cosmos is fun and cool i guess, but that isn't enough to save either of them

team yell isn't a villain team, it's just an extension of piers being an overprotective brother and should have always been treated like that (amplified even more by the fact that marnie tells them off multiple times)

and macro cosmos doesn't work at all either because they expected us to be totally blindsided and then didn't even have the decency to have a single character who was morally good or benevolent like wicke!

at least aether foundation was built up as mysterious but benevolent, macro cosmos was just like "yeah we're a power company and good guys our chairman has the most rancid vibes you've ever seen but that means nothing" and then later it's like "oOoOoH wE'rE aCtUaLlY eViL aReN't YoU sUrPrIsEd????" like no!!!!! i'm not!!!!!!

and at this point the corrupt ceo bullshit and incompetent team bullshit is wearing SO thin, no one likes it or cares at ALL anymore

it's just like, go back to the mafia or whatever! i do not care about this! if i wanted to be mad at a ceo i've got enough irl to choose from!

which brings us finally to team star! they were built up as a villain team pre-release like the others, and we're all just like yeah okay whatever we know they're not a threat and probably fine people and we all know geeta is going to be the actual villain you aren't clever gamefreak

but then! we get to the game! and they aren't treated like villains!

they're treated like victims of circumstance who have gone too far and need to be stopped for their own good and it works

it works incredibly well, compounded by the fact that the actual villain was one no one was expecting

i have. many thoughts about the subversions of expectations that the professors pulled. but that's beyond the point-ish

but team star is not treated as a villain. at all. the closest we get is penny recruiting us to take them down, but that's more "they're a problem" than "they're a danger" and it works

tldr no pokemon villain has ever surpassed team plasma and gamefreak needs to join a union and stop making all their "twist" villains ceos thank you and goodnight