#Men blaming women for their issues

[gay-otlc]

Actually I think we should talk about how incredibly fucked up it is for sapphic women to say shit like "I'm no better than a straight man 😔" when attracted to a woman in a way that isn't 100% pure and wholesome, or act like men's attraction to women is inherently dirty, predatory, or objectifying.

[iceyrukia]

Growing number of women report being punched on NYC

[thepersonperson]

So basically what I'm getting is that penetrating gojo('s infinity) endears you to him and the only ppl who've done it successfully are two older men, one of which was literally his awakening

…Yeah Gojo’s relationship with men is not healthy. (Not that he’s any better with women. It’s just a different flavor of messy.) But you don’t need to be violent with him! Geto and Nanami are proof of that.

I think the common thread between the 4 of them (Toji, Sukuna, Geto, and Nanami) is not only their fighting prowess, but their strength when it comes to tolerating Gojo’s insufferable personality. They don’t let Gojo get under their skin and can take control of the conversation from him.

[apostate-in-an-alcove]

I think more women would care about men's issues if men stopped using discussions of women's oppression as the one and only instance to bring up men's issues. More often than not, men's problems are brought up to deflect from the conversation at hand and silence women.

[silvermoon424]

I just saw someone unironically try to recommend a documentary called “The Red Pill” as a good source against feminist talking points lol

[sendmyresignation]

something I've been thinking about lately. i do think it's incredibly telling that almost 80 percent of the conversations around 'gatekeeping' and 'posers' and shit end up just becoming vitriolic hatred of 'alt girls' like i hate shit spotify playlists and dollskill fake leather edge and tiktok recommendations as much as the next person but this is a very big attitude coming from a website full of people who spent their formative middle school years shopping at hot topic for multi-colored skinny jeans while listening to like. falling in reverse or 21p unironically (this is a self-own btw). first of all teenagers having shit taste isn't killing punk music. but also why is the object of your hatred always boil down to a woman faking it? as if it isn't the single oldest stereotype in heavy music? like am i insane for thinking this is an issue

[cartridgeconverter]

If I see one more rancid opinion about men on this godforsaken website I will probably lose it in some way

[neproxrezi]

reason 846 i hate job interviews: just had a mock interview at a training place and part of the feedback was that i could have dressed smarter for it, by which they meant 'a shirt and trousers' and like. i was wearing womens smart office wear that i have worn to office jobs before so i have to assume they meant 'wear mens office wear', and i just think im gonna have to ask them what they think i should do toward that end because that just does not have an easy answer

[dodecademons]

Funny how like 90 percent of people wanting the wilds back hate to acknowledge the fact that it's partly their fault. I want the wilds to be renewed as well, however if I DARE say yall aren't ready for it and a small part of me thinks some viewers are undeserving I'm the bad guy. Right because the vast majority of you didn't openly admit to skipping over the boys parts in the show, smh. If you arent watching the whole episode why would they want to renew it? They want views, they want money. Do I want the wilds back? Of course. Do I think the gretchen clones deserve it? No. Be better.

[jaxie101]

i normally hate it when people through around the term misogynistic bc it waters it down and makes it meaningless but CHRIST

“katniss is toxic bc she strings two guys along for fun” gale was toxic and manipulative and did nothing but make her life harder and she was with peeta because if she WASN’T her family would have been killed. if you think katniss is the toxic one for being manipulated and blackmailed then i genuinely do think you’re just misogynistic

[lesbianlenas]

so many young women recently desiring to be stay at home mothers….the ironic part of it is that all of those women that do become stay at home moms will one day understand why the women before them fought so hard for them to not have to fulfill that role at the point at which they realize that their personhood has been entirely sacrificed in the name of motherhood & there is no going back on that. all women who are stay at home moms are forced to put themselves aside to take care of their children and husband & are forced to make that their entire identity & that is exhausting and dehumanizing. that is how betty friedan started second wave feminism w the feminine mystique. bc women finally realized that all women hated being housewives & there wasn’t smth wrong w each of them individually as they had all believed. but those that do not learn history etc etc……

[whentheynameyoujoy]

Getting really tired with the narrative of misogynists being pushed by feminist dismissal of men's issues to embrace violent skidmarks the likes of Andrew Tate. Because I engaged in those men's rights convos for fucking years and they always go exactly the same.

MRA: Male loneliness and alienation is a serious issue, not to mention stuff like high suicide rate or domestic violence and NO ONE CARES!

Me: I agree those are big problems. What's your favourite homeless charity I should donate to?

MRA: Erm...

Me: Suicide prevention hotline?

MRA: Erm...

Me: Victims of prison rape advocacy?

MRA: Erm...

Me: Transmasc shelter?

MRA: Ew.

Me: Senior citizens community centre?

MRA: Erm...

Me: Children's hobby clubs? Community basketball courts? Anything?

MRA: Erm...

Me: What's your favourite work-life balance model to ensure fathers get to spend enough time with their kids?

MRA: Erm...

Me: How would you make mental care more accessible?

MRA: Erm...

Me: Fine, at least give me a link to a male SV survivors shelter, you guys have been bitching about there not being any for literal decades, surely you've finally pulled together and built one.

MRA: Erm...

Me:...

Me: So what's your solution?

MRA: Well women are to blame for all this, of course! Bitches should just get over themselves, make me a sammich, and fuck me!

Me:...

Me: Y'know what I think I'm gonna go finish Tomb Raider.

My dearest men's rights activists, as a woman I'm already socially expected to function as a broodmare for the state while taking on the brunt of child care and having a full time job, naturally amending how I go about it whenever anyone decides You're Doing It Wrong, and then dropping everything to take care of my elderly relatives because women aren't anything if not a cheap source of labour. Like fuck am I taking crap from you for not accepting an Xth shift and building your movement for you. You, on the other hand, are free to pull on your big boy pants and do something for yourselves for fucking once. Just like those hated feminists had to.

[secretariatess]

“In countries where women are getting education, the birth rate is much lower than countries where women’s jobs are to get married and have kids.”

Maybe it’s not so much that educated women spells doom for the birthrate, but rather how countries with educated  women treat women.  For example, men often have the ability to strive for both a career and a family.  But for women, a career and family are presented as a “choose one or the other.”  And then there seems to be this expectation that women will just naturally choose family over career, because that’s what they’re “biologically wired to do”?

Yeah, it’s easier for guys to be able to do both.  But I honestly don’t think that a woman should have to choose one or the other.  There are women who aren’t just naturally inclined to choose having children over everything else.  Maybe they want kids, but they also want to pursue a certain career.  Women are multifaceted- they don’t have a single interest in raising children nor should they be expected to want that as their sole job/goal in life.  So in a culture that presents the two as an either/or, women who don’t feel strongly about being married right off, or have a larger interest in a career path, will end up choosing the career and being forced into sacrificing having a family.

I know it’s possible for women to have both, and do it successfully (my brother is the stay at home parent while his wife works- some have a part time job with their spouses, etc.), but these options aren’t always readily available to women’s attention.

It’s not even “traditional.”  Women worked in addition to having a family all over the world.  Some of those jobs weren’t even easily done around rearing children- there were/are cultures where women did/do hard labor such as working the field while caring for children.

I don’t think that’s the only reason why birthrates are down.  From country to country, it will vary (America’s reasons will be different than Japan’s reasons for lower birthrate because of culture).  I know for here in the West, there are many choosing not to have kids because they don’t want to interrupt their lifestyle.  Someone else pointed out that women who do want families are hesitant because of unreliable men, and they don’t want to have kids with a guy who may end up just making them a single mother.  But I think that one step in helping birthrates could be figuring how we can make both career and family accessible to women instead of making them choose and then blasting them for making the wrong choice, based on where we stand on the issue.

[ming-sik]

ok im talking to a brick fucking wall here but in case anyones actually curious the "are cishet aro men lgbt" poll is very much taken out of context and ive seen a lot of ppl, who have heard secondhand that there are people who dont think aroallo people are inherently lgbt, who did not see the original conversation.

which to be crystal crystal clear was this post, heres the conversation being discussed

notice that this guy never says hes aromantic and he specifically says that hes "not really at a point he can get into something serious" meaning that he 1) is not saying he never wants a romantic relationship he just doesnt want one right now and 2) refers to a romantic relationship as "something serious" bc he like most cishet people sees a relationship as inherently the most serious type of relationship.

additionally the reason people are upset at the guy is that although its only spelled out in the continuation where the girl explicitly says that he's asking for this despite her telling him she wants a romantic relationship if she's going to sleep with someone which is actually her setting a boundary, "exclusive obvi" in the first part most people have seen means that he is not proposing this as a thing that any given person may or may not be okay with, he is assuming without asking that she's willing to be relegated to a status he himself says is "less serious". the fact is that most cishet men are not actually friends with their fwbs and in most cases it's a code for "girl i expect all the duties of a girlfriend from with none of the care im obligated to give a girlfriend". it is the freelance contractor of het relationships.

and like is it not more disrespectful to imply that people who don't want to commit to treating someone theyre fucking as well as they think a romantic partner would expect of them are aromantic??? why would being an emotionally neglectful dickhead make you aromantic??? aromantic people are people who are not romantically attracted to other people, that's it. they are fully capable of respecting peoples' boundaries and treating their friends/sexual partners/qprs/etc as well as someone else would treat a romantic partner. like do yall not think people are wrong when they say aros are just creeps who want to use people for sex and then dip on them? why is the stance here "actually that is true but it's good actually".

the reason the poll was made in the first place was that someone got irritated that people were trying to argue that this specific shitty guy was actually aromantic and the girl was arophobic for setting a healthy boundary between her and a guy who was expecting an unhealthy relationship of her! random misogynists were the people who decided to bring aromantic people into this when they were not originally mentioned in the slightest! if you want to blame anyone, blame them for saying that emotionally abusive equals aromantic!

[starlight95tonight]

If I got a dollar for every time the asoiaf/got/hotd fandom blamed women for the problems caused by men, I'd be a millionaire by now

[butch-bakugo]

Note the double hypocrisy in the fact that Republicans continuously cry about "men" in the women's bathroom, hurting little girls and cis women while they simultaneously dont say shit about the assault trans men have experienced in the men's room(which dose fucking happen and ive experienced it) but have plenty to say to discredit women who talk about assaults they've experienced at the hands of men once they step out of the restroom.

So you acknowledge that men can hurt women(even though those "men" arnt men, they are trans women) but refuse to accept that cis men are the majority.