#Ragnelle

[queer-ragnelle]

i can be silent no longer

[kohiandie]

enjoy some cute kittens for some healing 🔥🔥 now that these kids are eating & being socialized, we spend hours every day giving them time in the big room, exploring & playing to tire them out! 💪🏼💪🏼

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happy saturday!

[kulttuurinkurittama]

lifeline

Arthuriana August of @caer-gai, getting heated!!

I was gonna draw Kei sitting in a campfire, how the fuck did we end up here? Actually no I'm not defending this one.

[gawrkin]

GUINEVERE

IS

SO

Fae-coded

You can almost feel like the Christian writers know that Gwen can't and can never be an ordinary lady, especially within THIS kind of setting - the Arthurian Setting, the pinnacle of the Chivalric Romance genre.

A setting where nothing ordinary or mundane is at the forefront. A setting where men like Arthur and Lancelot exist - Men who are objectively superhuman - both in character and in physicality.

This is a world where Arthur, Lancelot and every other male character has curb-stomped entire armies by their lonesome, go toe-to-toe with fearsome monsters, and endure punishing physical challenges that would kill lesser men.

Where Arthur can be the most charismatic and most virtuous king in the world, ruling over a kingdom with strange habits and customs. Where Lancelot can harbor love so strong, that it can both empower him as much as it kills him.

And these men are in love with Guinevere.

Guinevere, as character in this genre, HAS to be an exemplar female in order to fit in and complement the men in her life. The problem is that the exemplar women of this genre are on the cusp, if not outright, of unchristian status.

Other Arthurian women who are Fae-coded include:

Isolde (who is a "doctor", whose uncle is the giant Morholt)

Enide (who has several cousins with strange-looking horses and another cousin who trapped her lover in an enchanted garden; Chretien de Troyes saw fit to assure the readers that Enide didn't use spells or charms to arm Erec)

Laudine (who owns a magical storm-making fountain and a magic ring)

Lynette & Lyonesse (One is capable of reviving a knight that has been cut to pieces. The other also owns a magic ring. Both are sisters of the Lord of Avalon)

Ragnelle (who has a brother by the name of Gromer Somer Jeure, which means "Man of Summer Day", and is made the mother of Gawain's son Gingalain, who is normally half-fae)

...and all of them are described as unbelievable beauties comparable to Guinevere. Right.

[sanddef]

I think before Gawain and Ragnelle's divorce they were absolute terrors and there was a solid few months where everyone thought they were going to overthrow the king

[arthurianashipbracket]

morgan by william henry margetson and guinevere by eleanor fortescue-brickdale, gawain and ragnelle by william henry margetson

[ID 1: a picture morgan standing in a stone room. she is holding a wand and appears to be casting a spell, while in her other hand she holds various potion ingredients. next to it is a picture of guinevere with long braids lifting the hem of her dress as she walks through a field. /end ID 1 ID 2: a greyscale artwork of gawain kneeling and clutching ragnelle's hand. ragnelle is under her curse and is an old woman with a plain dress. they are in a forest clearing and other people are watching on in the background. /end ID 2]

[joemerl]

I finally got around to reading "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight." One detail that I hadn't heard about before was the ugly old woman. She's deliberately contrasted with Lady Bertilak, and while we never hear her speak, Gawain apparently spends the days talking to both of them and finds them both to be enjoyable company.

I knew it wasn't going to be right, but a weird idea I had was that it was Ragnelle. And you know, I feel like combining these stories wouldn't be too hard. There's Gawain, having his virtue tested by a beautiful but supposedly wanton woman, but instead winds up with her supposedly ugly but virtuous companion. Both stories even use the setup of "knight has to come back and die because HONOR," and "The Marriage of Sir Gawain" even keeps the Christmas setting. If nothing else this could be a prequel, where Ragnelle decides "yeah, that's the knight I want" and arranges to marry him later.

Instead the old lady was apparently Morgan le Fay. Which doesn't make a ton of sense, but honestly, nothing about her in this story does.

[tentative-wanderer]

Out of all the King Arthur and friends stories I read in my childhood, the one I like best is, of course, Ragnelle and Gawain because

- after reading a bunch of stories about men doing things, it was subconsciously refreshing to read one involving a woman doing things. A woman who held a lot of bargaining power (though it wasn’t clear what convinced Arthur and Gawain to trust her) and got what she wanted, and an ugly woman to boot

- the answer to the riddle—child me thought something along the lines of “Really? Probably not the answer I’d have thought of myself but okay, it’s cool.” Current me thinks: “Sure why not. It’s pretty aggressive. Say it to his face, I respect that.” Current me also thinks “wonder what Gawain’s expression looked like” and “why was Gromer Somer Joure making people answer this question” and “Gromer Somer Joure is a strangely cute name, like a magical incantation, bibbidi-bobbidi-boo”

- Ragnelle making Gawain kiss her and Gawain actually doing it while feeling terrified. Get yourself a man who’ll take responsibility

- Gawain passing the choice back to Ragnelle—it’s clear to me now that he did the thing that should obviously have been done, something like the bare minimum. But child me, when presented with two options—day or night—hadn’t thought of the third option because I didn’t—and still don’t—use my brain very much in the midst of reading. So when he went down a third route I was like, “Oh! That’s very nice!” And that impression has stuck with me until today.

(I read the book by Roger Lancelyn Green)

[adhd-merlin]

where is that post that was like. he literally didn't know adultery was wrong he was raised in a lake and no one ever explained it to him

[cloverboyblue]

surveyed all the women in the kingdom both bond and free and it turns out what women want is, in fact, sir gawain

[queer-ragnelle]

Anyway enough King Arthur flour asks time to talk about Ragnelle.

[mortiscausa]

i can't stop thinking how funny it would be if gareth's brothers did in fact recognise him and were just like 'well clearly he has his reasons so let's all be good big bros and pretend we don't know him' and then spend the next few weeks before he goes off on his quest pretending extremely badly that they have never ever met this kitchen boy before nope not at all even while other knights are looking at them and looking at gareth and going 'hmmm'

[kohiandie]

gods eepiest soldiers this morning

[kulttuurinkurittama]

More doodles of the round table, this time with the added challenge of my pens wanting to die and or explode on the page!

[gawrkin]

So basically, a demon goddess waifu

Her brother's name is apparently "Summer Day Guy" in English, btw.