#The Irrational on NBC

[writergeekrhw]

THE IRRATIONAL ON NBC

And since we've reached a tentative agreement, hey, maybe watch my new show, The Irrational starring Jesse Martin, which premieres tonight (Monday 9/25) on NBC! My friend Arika Mittman created it, and I've had a great time working on it... or I was having a great time until we had to walk away. If you enjoyed Elementary this should be right up your alley. I'm a co-executive producer/writer and wrote episode 4.

Here's NBC's show info:

Everything to Know About The Irrational, New NBC Drama | NBC Insider

Here's the trailer:

The Irrational | Official Trailer | Starring Jesse L. Martin | NBC - YouTube

I hope everyone enjoys it so that I will actually have a job to go back to!

[hollywoodoutbreak]

One of the few new scripted shows to premiere on network television this fall is The Irrational, a new drama starring Jesse L. Martin that was largely filmed last year. The show's title refers to the fact that the plot deals with aberrant behavior, and Martin plays a psychologist who specializes in understanding those kinds of people. What can we expect from the show? Martin gave us an explanation.

The Irrational airs Mondays at 10/9c on NBC, and episodes start streaming the following day on Peacock.

[defectivegembrain]

Abed sees a cartoon animal on a t-shirt and he's like I must wear that and that's so very valid of him

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The Irrational 1x03 Promo “The Barnum Effect”

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NBC's 'The Irrational' Clip Exclusive Clip: Alec and Rose Go On A Date

NBC’s The Irrational finally has Alec (Jesse L. Martin) and Rose (Karen David) going on a date. The flirtatious banter between the two the last few episodes hinted of a potential romance, but now with Episode 7: ‘The Real Deal’, Alec and Rose take the plunge for a dinner date. Unfortunately – or maybe, fortunately, their date turns into a 24-hour excursion when they find themselves taking an…

[tvtalk247]

I just finished episode 9 of The Irrational.

Was anyone else annoyed when the sister acted like she never heard of *69 before and Alec made a dig at millennials. Millennials know WTF *69 is. Like come on. Many of us are in our 30s now. Stop confusing us with teenagers. 😂😂😂

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Fuck yeah!!!

[addicted-to-the-knife]

I've come to realise that there are two ways people mischaracterise Will. (NBC Hannibal, specifically)

One being the "uwu innocent babygirl who was manipulated into doing bad things by the big bad Hannibal". And the other being the polar opposite of it, where even his better qualities are turned into something that signify how "evil" he truly is.

Where is the nuance?

Will Graham is a complex character with many different aspects about himself that don't cancel each other out.

He's not a good person. We know that. We should know that. The show has been very clear about that. But he's also not entirely bad either. People rarely are entirely good or bad. I'd argue that nobody is ever just one or the other.

It's not all black and white. And taking moments of his genuine goodness and turning them into something they're not just to prove the point that he's not a good, innocent little baby like some people believe, is just as wrong.

His empathy and compassion are not a lie. He's empathic to a fault. He has true compassion for others; especially those that are weak and vulnerable and are victimised by others or themselves or failed by the system. He genuinely wants to help them.

Of course he's doing that for his own gain. One could argue that his motivation is selfish, since he could not live with the guilt of lives not saved or letting victims be even more victimised. So, he helps in order to make himself feel better. He also helps others in an attempt to prove to himself that he's not as bad as he fears he is (especially in season 1).

To say that because his reasons for helping are selfish and only for his own gain, whatever that may be at times, make him a bad person and that he's actively preying on the vulnerable for it, is such a huge misunderstanding to me. Helping people is seldom a completely selfless act. Most people do it to get something in return; even if that something is simple acknowledgement and recognition for having done something good. The motivation behind it shouldn't matter as much if people are being helped in a genuine way that is good for them.

And to take Abigail as an example for his "true predatory and manipulative ways" is also not the way to go. He was genuine with Abigail. His killing of her father triggered such unbearable guilt within him that he reacted irrationally and tried to forcefully insert himself into her life and replace her father in order to minimise the guilt and make up for what he's done to Abigail. His intentions weren't bad, but they were selfish. He didn't manipulate her, though, nor was he preying on her vulnerability. He did genuinely care about Abigail (or rather, an image of her that his guilt produced), too much one could argue, and he acted irrationally and selfishly; because (re)actions fuelled by strong emotions are always irrational.

He was also very genuine about helping and caring about Georgia and Peter, for example. Especially Peter is a good example because that was at the beginning of the honeytrap. By some people's logic, he shouldn't have a single reason to care about Peter and be a friend to him, and he should have only been getting close to him to manipulate him. But that's not what happened. Will saw himself in Peter and he wanted to prevent from what eventually happened to happen at all. He genuinely wanted to help Peter out of his situation and come away as unscathed as possible.

Also, let's not forget that he had no reason to put on a facade with Bedelia in the second half of season 3. When he says, during their session, that his first instinct is to help a wounded bird, he wasn't lying or putting up an act. He was being genuine. His empathy and compassion for the weak and vulnerable is real. He wants to help. And he'd much rather hurt whoever has wounded the bird in the scenario. Bedelia even admits that her first instinct is to crush a weakened animal. Neither of them saw a reason to lie to the other.

When Will kills people, he feels righteous. He kills people that "had it coming". They deserve it, in his mind, for having hurt and/or killed others.

He's manipulative, yes, but from what we know and have seen, that is pretty exclusive to people in power, like Hannibal, or Jack. He doesn't manipulate a weakened person. (The only example that is iffy on either side is with Chiyoh, maybe. It shows that he's no better than Hannibal; even if he still wanted to believe that about himself at the time. He forced Chiyoh to kill because he was curious and he manipulated everything around that for it to happen. But again, Chiyoh isn't a weak or vulnerable person; especially not in Will's mind.)

By no means is Will a good person or innocent. And Hannibal didn't make him a killer. That was already inside him and all Hannibal did was to let that beast loose. And Will likes it. He likes how powerful he feels, and he likes the rawness of it all. And yet he doesn't use that against people that are already victims.

The fact that Will isn't a good person does not negate that he's empathic and compassionate and that he has a genuine want to help others. Because those things alone don't make you a good person. Those qualities can be true and exist, just like his enjoyment of killing and having power over others do. At the same time. They don't cancel each other out. That's exactly what makes him such an interesting and complex character.

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What Law & Order Thursday Could Look Like Next Season as Organized Crime Moves to Peacock

What Law & Order Thursday Could Look Like Next Season as Organized Crime Moves to Peacock

Could a Criminal Intent Reboot Be the Answer?

Coming off the heels of my recent post on the current state of the franchise and the news that broke earlier this week (via The Hollywood Reporter) - Law & Order: Organized Crime has a deal being made to be renewed to run a fifth season, exclusively on Peacock for 10 episodes, the first time an L&O series will air first-run episodes on a streaming service. NBC has yet to announce any plans on the 3rd hour of Law & Order Thursday, which begs the question is: what will Thursday nights look like next season as there will likely be a void in the 3rd hour without another L&O series in its place?

NBC's newest arrivals, Found and The Irrational could potentially be scheduled on Thursdays in the new season. NBC also has two dramas, Dr. Wolf and The Hunting Party, set for next season, with two more drama pilots: Suits L.A. (spinoff from USA Network's original series, Suits) and Grosse Pointe Garden Society — in the works. Meanwhile, NBC could also acquire rights to air Canada's CityTV's version of L&O, Law & Order Toronto: Criminal Intent (10 episode 1st season) -- which hasn't been renewed for a 2nd season as of yet.

But from a Law & Order franchise/Wolf World perspective, this is a chance to see if there is another new iteration of the brand that can be in addition to the already robust brand as Wolf's worlds continually build themselves (the FBI franchise on CBS as well as One Chicago on NBC Wednesdays - which all are renewed for the upcoming season).

We all know pilot order spin-offs Hate Crimes (co created by Criminal Intent and SVU executive producer Warren Leight, originally posed for Peacock) and For The Defense (co created by CSI veteran executive producer Carol Mendelsohn) went to the back-burner and never became series. Also Wolf has the True Crime iteration (co creator L&O and CI executive producer Rene Balcer) of the brand that while isn't canceled in an official capacity, NBC hasn't shown recent interest in seeing it go on. Then there are 3 canceled former spinoffs; Criminal Intent (ended in 2011), Los Angeles (ended in 2011), and Trial by Jury (ended in 2005).

In interviews (one here via TV Line) and across social media, former stars Vincent D'Onofrio (Det. Robert Goren), Kathryn Erbe (Lt. Alexandra Eames), Alicia Witt (Det. Nola Falacci), and Annabella Sciorra (Lt. Carolyn Barek) as well as former executive producers Warren Leight, Julie Martin, Norberto Barba, and Michael Chernuchin - who all reunited as executive producers on SVU - have shown or voiced interest in a TV reboot of some kind. Star D'Onofrio stated on Twitter/X that the decision to reboot would ultimately be up to creator Dick Wolf but that he would love to reunite with Kathryn to do it.

The question is: would a Criminal Intent reboot be worth it for Wolf Entertainment/NBC to reboot and/or would it suffer the same fate as Organized Crime?

The answer? Yes. It would be totally be worth it for all involved. While stating the obvious, it brings our old favorites back into a new era of television and showing that element of the criminal mind and "why dunnit" in this new age that we live in, and of course the number of new jobs created as well as old jobs reopened; to this day Criminal Intent has something that Organized Crime hasn't, and that is syndication rights with a solid following still tuning in (even after the show has been off the air well over a decade)!

It is a factor that helped reboot the mothership series back in 2022 after NBC canceled it in 2010, the solid audience of syndication viewers (i.e. TNT, ION Television, WEtv), sales from home entertainment (DVDs/Amazon) and streaming services (Peacock) aided in NBC making the decision easy to reboot the flagship Law & Order series. And while the reboot isn't NBC's highest rated show, it's in the top 20 and performs pretty solid, enough to score a full 22-episode twenty-fourth (S4 of reboot), season next season. It also proves to be a great lead-in for SVU (renewed for S26), that comes on right after.

And much like the reboot and even SVU which has reinvented itself more than once over it's 25 seasons, not only could old viewers return, but this also opens the door to introduce the series to new viewers as well, especially if our favorites do make a return on screen.

What do you all think? With Organized Crime going to Peacock, could a Criminal Intent (or other spinoff) reboot help revitalize NBC Thursday nights as well as the franchise? Or is it time to try something new with the brand? Sound off!

[shinelikethunder]

sometimes interacting with spn fandom is agony because i have no interest in being """critical""" of any of the characters in particular; their suffering AND their utter derangement are the point for me, nbc hannibal style, and the minefields of infighting and long-simmering resentment over characters, ships, and actors just harsh my buzz... no, it's the entire underlying premise of the show that i sometimes want to be a vicious, petty little hater about

(unrebloggable because this is knowingly-irrational personal kvetching about people being petty haters over THE WRONG THINGS, and i do not fucking want it passed around as a way to performatively dunk on any faction in any particular wank)

[writergeekrhw]

Oh, okay, I really enjoy Irrational so far but, as a university professor, man did ep 4 completely destroy my suspension of disbelief when Rizwan breaks federal law (FERPA, passed in 1974!!!!) with his zero sum game example in the second lecture. 😂 Still, it was a great episode, especially the dialogue in the climax. I enjoyed how the culprit was well telegraphed and grounded in both realistic characters and genuine and believable motivations.

Thanks! I confess complete ignorance of FERPA and our advisor didn't flag it, so my bad.

If it makes you feel better, imagine Rizwan got a stern talking to from an Academic Review Board, and then Alec paid the $500 fine and is taking it out of Rizwan's salary $5 a week for the next two years. Bad Rizwan! Don't do it again.

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As The Irrational wraps production on its first season - star Jesse L. Martin has plenty to be happy about, since the show's already been renewed for its second year. What about the show has kept him smiling? Pretty much everything. Martin says there's been a lot to love.

 The Irrational airs Mondays at 10/9c on NBC, and episodes start streaming the following day on Peacock.

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Episode 343: Good One Bad One "Fall" 2023: The Pickening

We're back again! This time with a "Fall 2023" edition of Good One Bad One, which we started recording pretty late in the season and have finally gotten around to releasing even later. (November hit hard this year, listener.)

We've got a great lineup for you this season! Presenting the Good Ones:

Apple TV+'s The Buccaneers Hulu's Goosebumps Showtime's The Curse

And, of course, our formidable Bad Ones:

Paramount+'s Frasier reboot NBC's The Irrational Paramount+'s Lawmen: Bass Reeves

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The Irrational 1x05 Promo “Lucky Charms” 

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NOC Exclusive Clip: New Clip from NBC's 'Transplant'

NOC Exclusive Clip: New Clip from NBC's 'Transplant' @nbc #Transplant

NBC’s fall line up is in full swing. And in its third season, their show, Transplant continues to show signs of life during a challenging time for network television. And we’re happy to debut a new clip from Thursday’s episode. Continue reading Untitled

[johanna-swann]

So I'm rewatching Grimm (nbc) and I still don't like Juliette. Back when I first saw the show I couldn't explain why, but I think I get it now: She doesn't have consistent character, instead she's whatever the plot needs her to be.

She's a badass when protecting minor characters, but a damsel in distress when Nick needs to do something heroic. She is understanding and supportive and kind when somebody needs help in this episode, two hours later in that episode they need more tension between Nick and Juliette, so she's bitchy about always getting pulled into his Grimm business.

The writers treat her as nothing more than a plot device. She needs to be pretty and smart and witty and capable, but also vulnerable and sensitive- you know, because she's the male main character's love interest.

Then in season 4 she accidentally becomes a Hexenbiest via ritual and blames everyone around her - even though SHE had the final say in going through with the ritual in the first place. And she's such a bitch about it, yells at her friends who are trying to HELP, threatens Sean who is really trying to support her in her difficult situation and leaves Nick because she just assumes he's going to hate her now even though they have other Wesen friends. She's scared her life partner (who has expressed how much he loves her no matter what many times) will KILL her and then blames her irrational fear on him. There where so many instances when Nick let criminal Wesen go because they had no control over their powers or something like that and Juliette knows this. Still, she just goes ahead and thinks the worst of him.

So yeah. I was kinda glad when they killed her off.