#advanced-thanatology

[s-ccaam-era-crepe]

hiiiiii I’m a big fan of bap and I think you posted a reference to a scene with sophia and a mirror a little bit ago? would love if you wanted to elaborate

AUGH !!! <33 /pos another bap fan yippee omg :D

okay yes the mirror maze <33 possibly one of my favorite things for the park and also just in general the idea of mirrors & reflection for sophia <33

im assuming it was this post so im going to elaborate my thoughts on tagging eye there

sophia is quite the broken person, she grew up and was formed by the cult. she doesn't know any better than the manipulation she was taught by her mother, her father and the God. but they wish they did. the pressure of being speaker has put so much on her that they just wish they could be better, be able not to crack under manipulation and staring eyes. just be a better person. but they cant. and ver will die understanding that they tried and were always going to fail because of how alone they are in this position and how useless it was to try in the first place.

the mirror maze reflects how the future and/or past could be different if you were to change. sophia's mirror doesn't reflect anything else. there is no other reality for them. just this one, in which they die abandoned by the thing that gave them love in the first place

this was one of the most fun bap asks to answer tyy !!!! feel free to ask more questions too :))

[monstermoviedean]

the stained glass dean dies under. i want to know who it is and what it says

[bloodydeanwinchester]

he's thinking about the fact that he gets to see dean again here

[youre-only-gay-once]

Supernatural ⋄ 13×05 ⋄ Advanced Thanatology

[urne-buriall]

there I am driving down a road, all to myself, and Steppenwolf's "It's Never Too Late" starts playing so I'm like "oh I guess we're going to have destiel feelings for the next 4 minutes and 3 seconds" and so I'm thinking of this post about the 13x05 ending and imagining the whole scene and then up ahead I see the front silhouette of an approaching car. and I say "no." but yes, it is. a vintage black Impala. likely the same one I nearly backed into at the car show. what are these signs from the universe indicating for my day ahead, I am concerned

[shallowseeker]

Mia Vallens, shit therapist?

I've really enjoyed the shift in how we view Mia Vallens's therapy session. A re-examination of the 13x04 therapy scenes (by others smarter than me) shows that it is Sam who's boxing everyone into "therapy" on false premises and lies.

He's taking advantage of a case to...get free therapy, but also to control the narrative of that therapy. He does this in order to force and control conversations, and then he runs out wounded when it doesn't go his way.

It's also Sam that is forcing Dean and Jack to work together, pushing them to spend time together, because he wants them to bond as quickly as possible (it's only been 10-11 days. Christ, Sam). Both Dean and Jack have said that they need more time. Initially, Jack doesn't even want to go on the case, and he expresses disappointment that Sam hid the full context of the situation from him, but Sam...works on him.

Now, how the therapy pans out isn't totally Mia's fault, per se. She doesn't have the full scope of the situation. Nevertheless, she acts like a bludgeoning hammer, making assumptions and assigning blame instead of asking leading questions.

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Then, there's this.

And, well. THIS didn't make it into the episode. Mia is greasing the wheels of her patients...with alcohol?

Wes swallows. Finally nods. WES: What do I--? She motions to a BAR CART in the corner. MIA: Have a drink. Try to relax.

13x04 The Big Empty script

Mia, my girl. You were giving Dean the stink-eye for drinking from his flask, but you have a whole-ass BAR CART in your therapy room? Then your dude is nursing “a lowball” in the next scene???

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[highfunctioningflailgirl]

"Great..."

or: Dean going through his own version of 'five steps of grief'

[winchestress]

9x11 | 13x05

[dessertbird]

Daily Destiel 💙💚

It’s never too late to start all over again. 😳😍❤️

[hellerradio]

Join us and our very special guest, Janine aka @artymcart, as we discuss two of thee most Destiel episodes of all time! Cas’ return and confusion, Dean’s profound sadness and joy, and slightly overestimating how much we hear “I’m your huckleberry” in the original Tombstone (per Editor Josh’s correction 😉) 🤠

TW for discussion of suicidal themes

Episodes discussed:

13x5 - Advanced Thanatology

13x6 - Tombstone

[s-ccaam-era-crepe]

another 🎵 sophia and a 🎵 mike walters?

YAYY <33

sophiaaaa Welcome To The Circus by Skittish, i think that one is fun <3. and To Be Loved by Lizzie Budin (Both very god centered songs but)

and mike !!! i already told you how much Pacific by Chase Petra is a walters song (so so very much) sooooo Solitary Confinement by Everyone's Worried About Owen :)

[monstermoviedean]

sam's babying of dean is possibly harder to watch than his prior complete disregard for dean's feelings

[cantspellsubtextwithout]

What's crazy about s13e4 The Big Empty is that it's so aptly named because even tho my dearly beloved Castiel is resurrected at the end of the episode which should and normally does fill me with overwhelming joy, knowing Jack's whole story but even just seeing this snippet of it play out (and seeing more of Sam and Dean's grief + the shifter grief counselor storyline) absolutely guts me and making me feel (you guessed it) empty.... Jack volunteering to go with Dean to investigate because he wants to win Dean over so badly even after Dean has literally told him he wants to kill him is so insanely gut wrenching and fucked up

I should be celebrating right now, I'm one full episode away from tombstone but now I actually also have to sit through Dean being perfectly okay killing himself maybe 10 minutes after he makes himself a pb+j for breakfast which is conveniently one of the only foods that also happens to be associated with Castiel who Dean happens to think is dead

[youre-only-gay-once]

Supernatural ⋄ 13×05 ⋄ Advanced Thanatology

[indistarlight]

i didn't think i could get more insane about dean winchester. i really didn't. and then i held my breath for this whole episode.

the pipeline from the dean whom famine called out for having a gaping nothing in him to the dean who gets called out by billie for not believing he deserves to live is insane. they just yelled in neon lights for a decade how much this man is tired of suffering and then they kill him in the end???

i am so sorry for any confused thoughts i had when seeing the reaction to the spn finale from the outside years ago holy shit

[ananke-xiii]

Something in Advanced Thanatology that will always make me cry a little:

The little boy dies, his soul trapped in the Veil. He's s sort of "saved" in the end together with the other souls but...

(souls that can also be used as a weapon like in s11 where they "harvested' them in the asylum to manufacture the bomb)

his mother is left to grieve alone, at least we're spared the pathetic show of consolation. Lives have been destroyed nonetheless and the mother will never know her kid is at peace (not sure if that's any consolation but I think it's a bit better than keeping on living knowing your child was horrendously murdered... by who? Was she told? We don't know).

Dean wants to die and so he dies but Billie says he must live because he's got work to do. And Dean goes on living but he thinks he needs a win or life stops making sense to hin.

And it's so fucking brutal.

That kid could just die because apparently he didn't have "work to do". Dean does so he lives. But he can do so because he's just a tool, a cog (a special cog is still just a cog) in the multiverse that must do his part or else. Another weapon to be deployed, like the soul-bomb in s11 (poor souls).

Then we have Cas who comes back and he's like: there must be a reason as to why I'm back, I'm a soldier so the reason is war. There has to be a purpose otherwise why have I been brought back?

Nooooooo! Everytime I want to scream at the screen because there is no purpose, no win, no work to do! You can just be, just because! There's still value in that, in fact there's ALL the value in that!

You're not as important as your purpose or the work you must do, you're important because you're you and there are people loving you and caring for you just because you're you!

But I'm left to my insanity alone, just like the mother at the end of the episode. She would've loved having her son back, no purpose, no work, no need for a win. Just her son back.

I love that episode so much to the point that I hate it. Same goes for Cas and Dean's final scene in 15x18, although in that case I hate that scene so much I love it which is ultimately the same thing.