#and harassing the actual creators!

[oveliagirlhaditright]

I'm just... so done with fandom shipping as a whole. Y'all are the worst and need to take a chill pill.

[bonefall]

Anyway. Bi and Mspec Lesbians aren't a hotly "debated" topic or even new to queer culture, it's just the newest thing that bullies who REALLY want to be homophobic and even racist use to justify harassing gay people they don't like.

It's the thinnest possible veneer of progressive language wrapped around TERF and reactionary rhetoric so that they can feel righteous for forming an angry mob against vulnerable targets. If you're gullible enough to fall for the newest wave of bigotry within the queer community, and turn on your allies because they're "confusing" or "invading your spaces," the SAME way they turned on bi/pan labels, trans people, xenogenders, neopronouns, and aroace people before this, then get lost.

[thottybrucewayne]

I think what I want to get into with the "Anyone can do harm." thing that I keep beating yall over the head with is that literally anyone, anyone at all can do harm it's not "in your DNA" to be an abuser or written in the stars that you'll be a predator. Whatever image you have of an abuser in your head, drop it and replace it with your favorite person in the world and you'll probably be closer to the truth than you realize. It's easy to address harm when it's coming from someone you already hate. I see it happen all the time. Someone you couldn't stand for no real reason does something heinous then all of a sudden here comes the avalanche of "I always knew they were a fucked up individual." No, you didn't. There is no possible way you could have known, you just already didn't fuck with them before they started doing something you could use to justify your hatred of them. I'm guilty of it too! I'm petty, mean, vindictive, and yes! I'm way quicker to believe something bad about someone I hate versus someone I love because I'm human. Still, y all gotta learn to move past that initial "Well, they were always nice to me!" gut feeling and understand that nobody truly knows anyone and anyone can be capable of anything. Even victims. Even you.

[hollowwish]

I don't think some of you people understand what "Jimmy says the bullying is fine!" Actually references to and you just throw it around whenever Jimmy bullying gets brought up as some lame defense for the other character in question

[woomycritiques543]

https://twitter.com/NazFX_Studios/status/1199643032292749312?t=1zGGNfvZkOKvFd0ItADX7Q&s=19

Vivziepop recently made a Collab with NazFX on Twitter who's releasing a Loona remake tomorrow. It appears she has collabed with this person twice? In the link I'm sending is a video of a white Alastor plush. My favorite character in the Hazbin Hotel series is whitewashed to oblivion again! Like WTF, Look at him? Why is he so white 😭? WHY IS HE STILL BEING PORTRAYED AS A NON BLACK CHARACTER? First it was Sallie May that was overly sexualized for being a trans woman which insulted the community and got a lot of backlash, then making another transmasc character Cis which got more backlash and now we're pushing for anti black, white Alastor! I encourage others not to buy from Viv or get the Loona plush to pocket her pockets because she's anti black and is absolutely terrible at portraying black characters, characters with different ethnic backgrounds in general or just LGBT characters. Vivziepop is not a spectacular person with great ideas. She can't represent characters period!

This is "OOAK." Not a collab. It's fanmade.

I get your concern, but please provide clear evidence before making accusations like this. Though yes... Vivziepop does whitewash him still, in fact, she made him lighter after the backlash about the Vodou representation, something fans and non-fans alike were disgusted by her doing this kind of anti-black behavior, and kept the symobols in the episode- just more hidden now.

Look at Vortex, look at how this character is drawn, look at how the muscles are emphasized while the white muscular characters are drawn otherwise normally or with Ozzie, have skinny arms.

Look at how they drew the white muscular characters and their anatomy compared to Vortex and try to tell me that there was "no anti-blackness" involved here. The white men have even anatomy, while for Vortex, it's emphasized to hell and back, and he's given almost no sympathy for being a slave, while Loona is multiple times just because she's white coded despite being Hell's equivalent to how black people were/are treated. Yet for Vortex, he's not sympathized with, even in his debut, and is only animated to "look intimidating" and to be violent while also having not a single black person influencing his writing. He's just meant to be the "token strong black man" while Coco and the rest of the background characters are put their for brownie points while we get no respect from these writers underneath this narrative. It's hypocritical, selfish, and downright racially insensitive. These stereotypes are far from "harmless", especially today with the newest Helluva Boss episode and how it relates to the harmful stigma against drag queens.

The fetishization of trans, drag, and black lives hurts us.

These stereotypes are not "comedy", they're reputational harm.

-while the other black characters are whitewashed and given names like "Coco" based on their skin. You can actually tell that the direction of this show had not a single black say on these shows, at all.

HB also made over half of their main poc characters succubi as an excuse to fetishize us. It's just hentai for minority fetishists, that's it, the show is just what Americans think hentai is, but worse, since it includes all misrepresentation of women from hentai along with ableism, racism, homophobia, and blatant transphobia from the writers being put into the tones and dialouge of the scenes.

The double standards need to stop. There is no such thing as a "good" dergogatory stereotype. Black stereotyping and fetishization is equally as harmful as blackface. This goes for Brandon Rodgers as well. Both him and Vivziepop have gotten away with racial stereotypes and sexism for far too long. There needs to be at least one black say behind this writing. This needs to stop.

Also look at the anniversary posts on Twitter:

Not a single black person in sight. I want to be excited by this show so badly due to the nice animation, cool world ideas (Hell with different demon species- how cool is that?!) and the cool looking bg characters but the creators keep ruining it with active bigotry.

So you're right about that one... 💀

Vivienne is speedrunning her own cancellation now...

-and it's just sad to watch. All she had to do was apologize for how she misrepresented multiple minority groups and let her stans attack us, none of this discourse needed to happen smh.

If racism and all around bigotry is "not ok" with Oye Primos. It's "not ok" with how Helluva Boss treats minorities as well. People need to stop having double standards just because one creator benefits their fan content more than the other. To the HB tag, if you like any of Vivziepop's shows, cool, but dont pretend to support us while denying how much bigotry the creators have just because you want more of Vivziepop's cartoon softcore porn.

Racism and queerphobia should not be normalized with any writer.

Stop the hypocrisy!

[vaugarde]

sorry to harp on this but i think long video essays have become this thing that people decide that they don't like personally, and like that's alright, but for some reason they have to justify that dislike by making it a moral discussion rather than something that just comes down to preference and not all of those videos being well made. like you can't just say "i don't like quinton reviews or hbomberguy cause their vids are too long and that's just not for me" you gotta say "quinton reviews and hbomberguy are DISGUSTING people for forcing their audience to watch HALF ASSED CONTENT and oh they just want your MONEY and they're not ARTISTS they don't CARE about you and they're scammers and-"

[finalhaunts]

Lesbian flag discourse set us back like 20 years for real

[bonestrouslingbones]

no shade but i reblogged a post once that said something like "hey misgendering these characters is crappy" and someone legit reblogged it from me and tagged "agreed but underverse gets a pass". like. no. no it actually does not. you are who this post is talking about???

i enjoyed underverse (i think it did kinda massively change the shape of the utmv side of the fandom) but cmon everyone we're just gonna let this slide forever? for real? maybe a little shade

FULL shade like it is literally so useless to rb those kinds of posts just to Look like you're nice and unproblematic or some shit but when you then say "not underverse tho!!" you immediately show just how disingenuous everything outta your mouth actually is. people always wanna talk but they never want to have to actually commit to the shit coming outta their mouths its literally the most annoying part about it all

[stardust-sunset]

i never understood people who go on anon just to rip on people like okay??? the only thing you’ve showed me is that you’re a coward lmao

[weedle-testaburger]

there was a pretty good comment in a strange aeons video i watched the other day where she said 'how much of 2000s humour was just bullying?' and it made me realise something interesting. in the 2000s that bullying was masked as humour, in the 2010s that bullying was masked as activism

[ocwearingthis]

Hi,

I have a question about one of your posts:

https://www.tumblr.com/ocwearingthis/709733939591397376

it looks a little bit like ai (the way the detais at the collar blend together), but I migth be wrong. Where is this from? There is a watermark, but I couldn't read it and didn't find anything.

I send you this, in case it is ai and you don't want ai on your block. If I was wrong or you don't mind it possibly being ai, please just ignore this ask.

I liked some of your other post, so I could find them again later and maybe draw the outfits.

Hope you have a nice day.

I had presumed it was just digital art, so you might have a better eye than me!

The water mark says "Vishma Marahaj". It seems that she is an artist who relies solely on "A.I." generators. She has an Etsy shop full of generated prints and products.

I will only remove it because I have too much respect for artists who create real high-fantasy imagery and costumes by hand.

Though I am not an expert as far as clothes/fashion and digital generating goes. I feel that if it is too distinct and detailed, the risk of an artist having been stolen from is too high for my comfort.

Thank you for looking out for other artists ♡

[bogkeep]

Leighton Night with Brian Wecht really is an outlier podcast for me, since it's a talkshow-y podcast with leighton gray (worked on video games dream daddy and the newly released horror game homebody)(i have played neither) and brian wecht (former astrophysicist and current member of comedy band ninja sex party)(which i don't listen to), since my usual fare is like......... Let's Untangle Some Complex And Maybe Depressing Topics..... so maybe it's vital for me to have a chill podcast with lots of cool creator guests and hear about brian's adorable daughter hyperfixating on legend of zelda once a week. ANYWAY something that comes up every now and then is how traumatizing the release of dream daddy was for leighton. like the backlash to it caused her to have a one year long mental breakdown and to this day she can't watch streams or reviews of the game. she was 19 at the time. i'm just........... i LIKE to think it's fallen out of fashion to harass indie creators (or any creators! or anyone!!) over """Problematic Representation""" because holy shit!! that kind of experience will literally traumatize people for YEARS, and for what? for wanting to share a labour of love with other people? and not only that, it makes other creators, especially marginalized creators, terrified of creating and sharing works that are diverse or complex. it's astounding to me how much harm people would cause in a crusade to reduce it.

on a much nicer note, the release of homebody (horror game. linking here for people who like horror games. who are not me) has been a very good one for leighton and it sounds like she gets to have a much better experience sharing her work this time around and i am genuinely so happy for her

[thatfantasybroad]

Had this in my head and needed to exorcise it, feel free to edit it as ye wilt

[mrsblackruby]

People really think it’s a gotcha when they say a bigot likes ur favorite fictional character do u know how many big0ts probably like ur favs too or how many antis are bigots themselves or how many antis contribute to online harassment

Liking a fictional character is not a problem It’s bigotry come on let’s connect the dots people

[nomaishuttle]

listening to the new sadboyz and im like. rly disappointed with how theyre talking abt the sssniperwolf shit ...

[bizarreandjarring]

i hate this i started listening to tma in january this year so everything was very quiet and other than a couple discourse posts that i ignored everyone was so chill. now that new stuff is promoing i’m like oh. oh no. is this a toxic fandom???? for fucks sake can we all please grow up a little bit. i am an adult with a job so if i see something on the internet that i don’t like i just FUCKING IGNORE IT