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First, I absolutely love your illustration style you did for #spnfanart with the soft rounded facial / body features. I think it adds to the overall softness of destiel. Second, I hope I'm not overstepping by asking this question, but do you take patrons, e.g., anyone that would like to give a few bucks to support your art. Thanks!! :D
howdy! thank you so much for your kind words! i know my style has shifted a bit [actually going back to how i used to draw] so thank you!
and you're not overstepping! once i'm done with my portfolio [which hopefully will be soon] i may open up commissions. depending on how the world of social media goes, I have been debating a Patreon, not one with expensive tiers, just so i can concentrate my work and maybe do some videos and tutorials on stuff and what not.
but that's planning i gotta do and my first thing i gotta do is finish my portfolio so i can start applying for some work haha
thank you! <3 I have a couple printable coloring books up on my Etsy, but they're the round-nose style!
i'm also considering redrawing a destiel huevember challenge i did years ago for another coloring book so - i will announce here whenever that happens! I'm hoping by March, everything can get set up!
i'm always nervous doing this bc idk how many people would actually be interested in it lmao
#and the point of patreon would be like#whatever people can afford so i want the tiers to be rather cheap#because $5 can go a long way for people lol#like not to lower the price of my art and the output but also i know what it's like to not be able to afford to support someone you wanna#so yah i gotta plan all this out!#and see what people would be interested in from me
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Got news today that there's a STRONG chance I get the apartment I've been hunting if I can just get the deposit together until November 1st. And it's not impossible to do so. Y'all I'm sobbing with joy. This would mean everything to me, I can't even articulate it. AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaayayayayayayayayayaysjdjdhdjdjfkdkfjfj !!!!!!!!!!!!
#i am vibrating through the damn wall#i have to post a poll on my patreon and see if they would be willing to support me if I started rewriting sive and lyselins novel until#i get my hands on my stationary pc#but at this point to just get my patreon income back i wouldn't be unwilling to just remake the ouro demo from an older version.#tedious but absolutely doable#let the era of absolutely nose to the grindstone beginnnnnnn#yall. YALL 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹#the deposit is only like 8k us but pays for almost a year of rent while i look for a job/grow patreon or both tbh#im. everything might work out. it might just do that!!!!!
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Designing patron stickers is the highlight of the month
#my hands are big these stickers are 3 ish inches#and they look SOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOD#patreon#I'm gonna do something halloweeny this month as well#TWO months of halloween#vampire comic. I must#like I literally simply must#okay I'm gonna get back to work and whatever#much to do#I think I'll put these stickers on my site at some point. got a few that I think I would like to sell in the future#I think maybe at the end of the year I'll do a selection of patron merch items from the year and put those up
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i cant believe im going on 4 years of not making my christmas comic. i cant believe the script has been sitting on my computer half written for 4 years
#at this point i think i wouild need to establish a patreon before i can take time away from comms to work onh a big comic again#right now i think wouldve been the time for me to break ground on it and have it out by christmas both online and in print but ugh#i would need to reduce my monthly queue slots by like. half. i would need like 700$ in patreon revenue before i would feel comfortable star#ing a big comic LOL#pulls my hair out
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clenches fist. finally sucked it up and ordered a new ipad...
#i splurged a tiny bit and got one with... one whole fucking tb of storage#my current one has 64gb#it is due for an update and i literally cannot fucking update it lmao i dont have the space#im running out of things i can delete. i literally have procreate and thats IT i have long ago deleted all other apps for the space#i mean i am still getting. like. a refurbed ipad thats like gen 3 or whatever its certainly not NEW#what am i the queen?#but considering i currently have a gen 1 i could literally get anything and it'd be a hell of an upgrade#i have enough money saved up from comms/patreon/kofi/etc on my paypal that i could literally purchase this w/o touching my bank acct#so like! if you have at any point over the past like six months donated subscribed or commissioned me!!! THANK YOU!!!!!#you have allowed me to afford a new ipad and continue making things ; w ;#and hopefully finally get to try out procreate dreams which i havent been able to touch yet fhrfrhf32fe#I REALLY WANNA TRY TO MAKE AN ANIMATIC FOR YALL.....#i thought abt asking for one for xmas but i dont want to wait and it would be a V expensive gift to ask for and also like#id rather just pick one out myself... than rely on my family picking out smth... so... you know. timing is what it is whatever#XMAS GIFT TO MYSELF#personal#txt posts
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HE WHAT.
#THE PATREON EMBARGO HAS CASUALLY MADE THE WIKI A LANDMINE OF NEW INFORMATION I COULDNT EVEN BEGIN TO FATHOM#CASE AND FUCKING POINT#I WAS READING THROUGH THE BLAZE WIKI FOR 5% REFERENCING REASONS AND 95% SELF INDULGENCE REASONS#WHEN THIS COMPLETELY JUMPSCARED ME#WHAT DO YOU MEAN BLAZE KISSED CHEN AFTER THEIR BREAKUP????????? VINCENT FUCKING MARINO??????????????????#my head is in my hands here. whats wrong with him.#like im not even surprised that 100% sounds like something he would do but. whats wrong with him#archives readthrough#< every few months i drag that tag out from hibernation and stick something new in there
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What would people actually like to see from my Patreon? I've hit a bit of a wall IRL and want to implement more incentives for folks to join, but I also don't want to offer something that no one's interested in.
I'm mostly doing my own thing, and have considered selling merch, but there's also that anxiety associated with interest/cost of production. I have decent skill in ceramic work, so if I had geographically convenient access to a kiln, I'd be able to do more with that. I miss working with clay and could never get into the polymer stuff.
This isn't like a life or death situation: I'm not exactly well off financially, but the straits aren't horrifically dire yet. I have a decent living situation: the folks here are great. Patreon and Ko-fi are mostly something I do on the side at the moment, but if y'all have any suggestions, I'll look into providing it.
#txt#the folks i live with are great: they've almost single-handedly prevented me from having to live outside.#tough to find modest employment in this day and age without a safe place to sleep or somewhere to shower.#and the housing/rent market isn't looking too hot. so i'm grateful for what i have.#things are getting harder for us: we're not in any danger at the moment but if push comes to shove it would be nice to have a#little bit in the till to contribute on top of my minimum wage#i don't wanna push patreon and ko-fi too hard: nobody likes ads and again my art is more of a hobby that i occasionally make money off of#i'd like to go serious with it at some point but i'm not in a position to give up wages to go full freelance y'know?
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The only bad part about Mabel is that the fandom is like 20 people which means there's no fun analysis posts, and new fanart comes once in a blue moon, so it's difficult to try to join fandom activities when it feels so dead
#mabel fans HIT ME UP i would like to TALK about the PODCAST#like send me a message or smthn im begging at this point#mabel podcast#mabelpod#oh wait one more part. im dumb as hell so i cant solve any puzzle boxes#theres the one on patreon and i havent figured it out... sighh
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hi friend, you still have the potential to be sued here in the US, even if you’re not using images. That’s a big part of why authors likes Anna Todd, scrubbed After (with all references to Harry’s name) from the internet when she started charging for it and before any publication would take an interest. (Before anyone comes for me, I’m sure the original has been saved by some third part somewhere. This is the internet after all. But the point remains if she were to be sued, she is able to claim that she did her due diligence by removing any and all content with any reference to Harry Styles from the internet BEFORE she received any payment.) The US is currently starting to crack down on copyright and intellectual property infringement. In large part due to the fact that so many people have received huge payouts over the last ten years. Unfortunately they’re not choosing to go after the ones that have actually gotten rich from the issue. And while the drivers might not care. Their management most certainly will. If you’re choosing to charge for your fiction it might be best to at the very least change names so you might have some form of deniability.
this was an interesting ask, thanks for the heads up again!
I'm not trying to go against your word, but rather wondering about the topic myself because it seems to me it's a huge gray area, so feel free to reach me on my private messages or on anon again if you want. But speaking about Anna Todd, technically she could still be sued even after scrubbing Harry's name from the story because there was still proof on the internet that it was a story about him, if we're talking about defamation it doesn't need to involve the monetization aspect, it's still defamation without it. This would mean that ANY RPF fanfiction is illegal and could be sued (which is not necessarly the case because theres the whole fair use thing).
We're talking about huge payouts, but I'm getting less than fifty dollars a month with Patreon lol would their team really come for me (a poor grad student) on behalf of a billionaire for getting less than fifty dollars a month to help pay school and medical bills? this would need a huge pr work too to make them seem good after doing something so crazy like this.
Talking about defamation, let's say I change names, but this Tumblr would still be up and everything else would easily show that it's about pilot X, this could still be considered illegal because you can tell who it is about. The reason why nobody comes for rpf is because 1) the money people are talking about is just a few bucks most of the time, and 2) it's exactly this real people's FICTION, there's not much to talk about defamation of a worldwide artist when the content you're sharing is for a nich of less than one hundred people, it's not reasonable. I haven't found a past decision about something similar in the US court, if there is, please send it in, but other than that it's a huge speculation thing in my head, which only a judge could clarify.
Patreon and monetizing fanfiction is quite common in fandoms like Chris Evans', for example, and I haven't seen anything legal come from it yet. again because it's unreasonable for those artists to go after their own fans for taking less than a hundred dollars in content that clearly sets a fictional character that just happens to look and have the same name as them because more often than not it's set in an alternative universe.
#this is probably all over the place Im sorry but Im just tired (as in I haven't had a good night of sleep)#also again this is not me trying to go against whatever you said but rather sharing my bits to how I see it if there's something concrete +#pls sned it in#or if there's a fault in what I said feel free to point it#but just letting you know that I might take a few to answer or just not answer because this subject is taking a toll on me#I've seen a few writers doing it on f1blr but people had to point it out because I did it like lol chill#anyways#thanks for adding this btw you sounded more mindful than mean (which i don't think you were trying to sound so all good <3)#millies inbox#anon#f1 fandom#fanfic patreon#it is easier to see those legal problems coming from fanfics that involve the Copyright aspect#anna todd is very specific case in my head#but yeah#it would only make sense if the work were talking about was a seeies#series*#Im not on the hs fandom and I have seen quite a few patreons for him so…#yeah#its a gray area in my head
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what if i made a patreon next year…
#kofi is great but it’s mostly where commissions go if that makes sense#but patreon is more for the in between stuff#plus i kinda wanna get over myself and start talking on youtube about things#cuz it’s fun#mostly#like money would be cool even a lil but but i’m mostly like#i wanna do stuff that scares me cuz what’s the point i got one life#and i desperately want to talk about silly old books and bad movies#and also just crazy history shit#and maybe give people access to the writing early#maybe talk about writing stuff as well and my process#i have no authority but i want fun and a lil dollar to chip in is always nice#maybe if i can ever figure out how to set up recording in video games i can stream?#idk i just want to have Fun perhaps#instead of spending every day miserable LMAO#talking
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OH I GUESS I MEANT RIPTIDE LMAO. I've seen some of your apothy stuff!!! - same anon
it’d be kinda crazy if i didn’t listen to riptide at all and just signed up for the patreon and solely listened to the campaigns there
#.qna#i guess you weren’t here for when i entirely caught up on riptide in the space of like a month last year#there was a period where literally all i would do/watch most days was riptide because i was that determined to get caught up#i will say! i have only listened to the first season of prime defenders i need to get back on that at some point#i’ve got a bit of money i can get back on the patreon for a month or two to catch up on that and the suckening
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Heyy you've probably been asked this before but do you have a patreon? I don't have twitter am not interested in signing up while it's exploding but I would love to see the dicks you draw
HONESTLYYY as much as i feel guilty of the thought of ppl paying to look at my shit, with how twitter (that stupid fuck changed it to just X now for reasons only jackasses would get ig) is going down the shitter and since twitters the only place to really post this stuff anymore i miiiight consider making a patreon?? for safe keeping at least maybe ill just charge like 1$ or something For Now lmfao maybe more but i rlly gotta convince myself 🤔 but yeah its kinda on the table at this point!
#like with how much im exploding on there atm with the cod stuff i guess i could make a killing by posting it on patreon but UGH#i just gotta rlly change my mindset and outlook on my art ig#bc i DO plan on making money off my art at some point but again i just wanna draw what i want to draw i dont want to feel forced#but like patreon would be a good jump off point for that but my ass?? is resisting??? for some reason???
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if house md were running in 2024 there would be an episode with a patient who identifies as an ‘online content creator’ (cagily) where house agrees to take the case primarily because when he offhandedly refers to her as an onlyfans model both cameron and cuddy get really offended and say it’s a sexist assumption so he doubles down and becomes committed to finding the patient’s onlyfans and proving it. at some point it would be revealed that chase actually is an onlyfans model and started doing it as a stopgap after his dad died and he suddenly got disinherited but he makes so much money off it that now medicine is basically just a hobby. cameron and foreman both disagree with the concept online sex work but it turns out they disagree for different reasons (cameron thinks it’s exploitative and not-feminist, foreman finds it distasteful and thinks people should get ‘real jobs’) and spend most of their scenes together arguing about this while chase gets continually more shifty. they break into the patient’s house and there’s a full ringlight and camera setup which seems to confirm house’s suspicions. while trying to find the patient’s onlyfans house accidentally finds chase’s onlyfans instead and considers publicly embarrassing him about it like he did with wilson’s sex tape but soon realises that most of the staff at the hospital are already subscribed to chase’s onlyfans so makes fun of him for that instead. it then transpires that the reason why the patient is so cagey about being a content creator is that she’s an ASMR artist and all the soap she’s been shaving on camera has irritated her lungs. cuddy is about to make house give her 20 extra hours of clinic duty as recompense but at last minute it’s revealed that the website the patient uses for some of her bonus commissions is, drumroll…onlyfans, because she’s been banned from patreon. how does house know this? wilson is subscribed to her because the soap videos sometimes soothe him to sleep. something by cigarettes after sex plays. roll end credits.
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The main feature apps like this offer are QOL improvements like different layouts, fonts, reading statistics and timers, and the aforementioned download features that are already a part of Ao3.
And if you want to use an app for those features -- honestly, I don't see why not? But be aware that Ao3 supports user-created skins that can look like literally anything you want (and although you do have to know enough CSS to make a theme yourself, lots of fans out there make AO3 skins just for fun -- you just gotta talk to one of them to ask how to make the changes you'd prefer and most likely they're happy to help out) and there are userscripts that act as site extensions that provide all those features and more (with, again, people actively developing them that you can ask help from to write your own if you don't like any of the ones available)
If you don't want the hassle of finding this stuff out or talking to people to ask for these features, you do you I guess. But don't ever pay money for one of these apps, no matter what it does. If it's showing you adds, if it's asking you to buy it, DO NOT, they're asking you to pay for features other fans have already provided for free through other methods.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

WHO IS USING THIS
AN APP??? THEY HAVE A FUNCTIONING WEBSITE
THE LAST FUNCTIONING WEBSITE
#Like tbh I don't hate the idea of user-made Ao3 apps#But I also think it's not possible to do that on monetised platforms without going against the spirit of Ao3's rules#they don't let you directly link Kofi or Patreon#so an app having a tip button/ads/premium purchase version would also be out of the question for me#But that's me speaking from a place of someone who likes doing dev shit as a hobby#I honestly think that if I went on FD right now I could find a decent Ao3 reader app that *is* operating within the spirit of the rules#I assume there's more than one of us out there but you wouldn't find any of these apps on the damn App Store/ITunes#which have the sole purpose of making money#and making money off of fandom is against the principles of OTW as far as I've understood them#And I do think Ao3 could use some QOL features there in the main interface! I do!#And not all of them are stuff like a dark mode you can do with scrub code!#some of the features I mentioned above *are* pretty complicated to implement#So I see the appeal of apps like these especially for people who don't have a broad community of other fans#who don't maybe even know anyone who does themes or userscripts on the side#Who may not even know all the features of their *browsers* because they've grown up in an app-first ecosystem#(or have shit browsers like Chrome that try to be as app-like as possible)#And the people writing these apps see a niche. Because they see users of Ao3 not knowing how Ao3 works#(and maybe don't know how Ao3 works themselves)#and go “huh there's a need I could fulfill there huh?”#The problem isn't the creation of the tools themselves -- it's the monetisation of them#And I think it would be better to focus on communicating *that*#and not assuming technical competence#Like most people don't even RTFM#and even when they do they might not *know* what some of the things in the manual are#So going “why didn't you just [already implemented feature of Ao3]\[userscript]” means nothing to them#they don't know what a userscript is#They don't know *that* you can DIY this stuff let alone *how* to DIY this stuff#and condescendingly telling them “you should just [do something that is unfamiliar and sounds complicated]”#will only make them thing “okay. But if you're not gonna tell me how then an app someone *already made* for that is easier. So fuck you.”#*handwaves at those last points* to be clear this is not what I think OP or anyone in this thread is saying
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i never thought I'd feel this way but literally what's it all for.... can barely pick up a pencil without thinking about how futile it all feels -- am i ever gonna make a book or a comic or an exhibition without feeling like it's just another contribution to the slop that we chew up every day....
#i want to have like a cheap patreon but idk anyone who would subscribe or anything lol#and like making on online shop seems so dumb too idk#literally i don't know there's like five people who would consistently go back and buy smth from me i feel#and i wanna make stuff for people! but i'm not at the point that i could make the stuff i like
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Was trying to figure out what TMA special had Jonny (and Alex?) talking about House of Leaves and I'm just.....really missing that community atm.
#at one point i could have asked the discord and SOMEONE would have popped in to say they listened to that yesterday and its [insert ep here]#i miss that a lot#i'm looking cause i swear there were like 3 other recs/inspo there and i need them#it may have been a patreon exclusive but i genuinely have no idea
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