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esoteric-oracle · 9 months
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On Life debts in MDZS
Recently finished watching Anle Zhuan, and holy crap, it really just sets even more into perspective how important life debts were in Chinese culture, especially in the days of dynasties. Long story short, the FL has a filial obligation to clear her family's name and exact vengeance on the ML's family - but you know what throws a wrench in her plans? The fact that the ML keeps saving her. Of course, this is a moral dilemma more easily offset by how she keeps saving him as well, but the fact that this is even worth mentioning and considered a serious quandary by the main character and her allies at one point really says something. And it got me thinking deeper about the implications of such life debts in MDZS.
In MDZS, life debts are immeasurably important. And how you honour that life debt is a measure of your character. When you owe someone a life debt, you owe them something immeasurably precious. In MDZS, MXTX knows that and shows it. She uses life debts to tie characters together and to drive the plot.
Life debts are the reason Wei Wuxian feels so duty-bound to the Jiang Sect and the Jiang family. They're the reason he's willing to lose an arm if it means no damage comes to his sect. They're the reason he tolerates being punished with methods beyond what's ever acceptable for a Head Disciple of a Sect. Because Jiang Fengmian saved him from living a life on the streets all those years ago, never mind that JFM himself owed Wei Wuxian's mother a life debt.
Life debts are the reason Wen Zhuliu is so blindly loyal to Wen Ruohan, committing countless atrocities in the name of the man who saved his life.
Life debts (and perhaps also genuine love), are why Jin Guangyao is so loyal to Lan Xichen. Because despite every other moral he eschews in his pursuit of power, he will always remember the sincere kindness Lan Xichen showed him when every other cultivator judged him for his heritage. And in the same way, we see Lan Xichen protecting him from Nie Mingjue under the excuse that Lan Xichen owes his life to Jin Guangyao.
Now let's talk about when life debts come into conflict with "filial duty".
It always irks me when people bring up family and filial duty to criticize WWX's "betrayal" of his sect, or try to undermine his judgement and actions when he protected the Wen Remnants. To me, it just shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the novel and the context around the text. When people call Wei Wuxian a "troublemaker" for leaving the Jiang Sect, they're falling prey to the very prejudices and classism MXTX condemned in the novel. Yes, the Wens burned down Lotus Pier. Yes, the remaining Jiang Sect would've had an obligation to go to war and exterminate the Wens. But you know what brings this duty to avenge your sect to question - in almost every way you look at it? When someone who never even participated in the bloodshed saves your life.
So, if we want to talk about filial duty and reciprocation - Jiang Cheng - and by extension, his sect, owes Wen Qing and Wen Ning a massive life debt (and that's not even considering the GC transfer). Even if we ignore the cultural context regarding debts, that's huge. Let's take a step back and look at what Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng owe the Wens.
The initial life debt. Wen Ning saves Jiang Cheng directly from probable execution (like his parents), as well as hides Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng from the Wen soldiers in his own room. In doing this, Wen Ning has already crossed the line of treason towards his own sect. Keep in mind - Wen Ruohan is his uncle. And here he is, risking his life to save two boys - only one of whom he's actually had any meaningful interaction with.
The days after. Both Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng are heavily wounded, the former from his whipping via Zidian + wounds sustained during the battle, the latter from Wen Chao's torture. In the days following, Wen Qing nurses both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian - enemies of her clan - back to health.
The debt Jiang Cheng owes further. People need a proper send-off in order to ensure their passage to Diyu, or the Underworld - and that could only be done for JFM and YZY because WN risked his life even further to bring back the personal items (and in some adaptations, their bodies) of Jiang Cheng's parents. In simple terms, Jiang Cheng wouldn't even have Zidian if not for Wen Ning.
The golden core transfer. There are two separate components to this. The first is limited - from Jiang Cheng's perspective.
Here's what JC knows: 1. He has no core, but there is a chance he can have his core restored by Baoshan Sanren. 2. The only way Baoshan Sanren would ever agree to this is if he impersonated Wei Wuxian, the son of her beloved disciple. 3. Jiang Cheng is a sect heir; he grew up wealthy, in relative comfort. He's at the top of the food chain. Wei Wuxian, on the other hand, is an orphan. He grew up being demeaned for his heritage. In truth, he inherited nothing from his parents. But what Jiang Cheng knows is that Wei Wuxian did have an inheritance: one precious thing, the location of an immortal. And then he gives that favour-his entire inheritance-to Jiang Cheng. Wei Wuxian, at this moment, essentially hands over everything he has left of his dead parents (who Madam Yu has slandered for his entire life) to Jiang Cheng.
From Wei Wuxian's perspective, the debt is this: his close friend and heir to the Jiang Clan has no core. He believes that Jiang Cheng needs his core - as he's been displaying suicidal tendencies after losing his. However, Wen Qing has a theoretical thesis on golden core transfers. This surgery has a 50% chance of success. To the knowledge of everyone involved, Jiang Cheng consented to getting his core back by whatever means necessary. He explicitly never questioned how Baoshan Sanren would restore his golden core. Anonymous organ donors are known to be a thing, even by modern medical standards. And WWX stays awake for two nights and a day without any anesthesia as Wen Qing cuts into his body and takes something he has spent over half of his lifetime cultivating, to give to Jiang Cheng.
"He had to be awake. He had to watch the golden core connected to his spiritual pathways be peeled from his body. He had to feel the gradual suppression, sedation, settlement of his originally surging spiritual powers, all until they became a pool of dead water, unable to rise ever again."
There's definitely also a case to make about Jiang Cheng essentially sacrificing himself to lead the guards away from Wei Wuxian, but you could also argue that Wei Wuxian saved his life just a chapter earlier by dragging him away from Lotus Pier when he returned. Also, it's got nothing to do with the Wen Sibs, towards whom they both owe debts.
By this time, Wen Qing and Wen Ning have already gone above and beyond to help the Jiangs and WWX. Saving the life of the sect heir is one thing, but to perform a never-before-done borderline heretical act of surgery to restore the heir's golden core? Another thing entirely.
The moral obligation of the Jiangs and Wei Wuxian to avenge their sect by killing the Wens does come into conflict with the debts they owe the Wen siblings. But compared to slaughtering Wen Chao, and the Wen soldiers during the Sun, how far does honouring filial duty by exacting vengeance on the Wen Sect go? Wen Qing herself declares she and her brother separate from Wen Ruohan. They're healers. They don't take lives.
From every depiction in Chinese media and culture, life debts are not to be taken lightly. A life debt is meant to be honoured and repaid. It's not something any half-decent person would mention maybe briefly in a Discussion Conference and then immediately shut up about and never mention again when someone louder (*cough*NMJ) speaks up. By turning his back on Wen Qing and Wen Ning, Jiang Cheng had demonstrated a significant moral failure as well as a misunderstanding of his own sect's motto. Along with his personal reasons, Wei Wuxian has every reason to protect the Wen Remnants.
So why, people ask, is Wei Wuxian so hellbent on protecting Wen Ning, Wen Qing, and the rest of the Wen Remnants? The easiest answer: he's a good person. He's compassionate, kind-hearted, empathetic to a fault; he isn't the type of person to stand by and watch if innocents and the helpless starve or suffer. He saw and recognized that what the Jins were doing to the prisoners of war was wrong, and chose to interfere. The other answer? He owes them a debt. He owes Wen Qing and Wen Ning a debt the rest of the Jiangs don't even know about. You want to discuss it in simple terms? Wen Ning is the only reason the Jiang Sect still stands. Wen Qing is the only reason the Jiang Sect has a cultivator for a leader by the end of MDZS. She committed the equivalence of cultivation heresy to save Jiang Cheng because Wei Wuxian begged her. WWX defending her family in return is…. Really the least he could do.
I've seen people calling the Wen Remnants war criminals, even equating them to the mafia, and I can't help but think - what book were those people even reading? if you're not willing to consider the culture and values or just use basic critical thinking when consuming a piece of media - don't try to slander the actions of its characters. Anyone who read the novel and understood the intended themes would not, in good faith, condemn Wei Wuxian's decision to protect the Wen Remnants.
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its-chelisey-stuff · 10 months
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MOVE ASIDE PLOT! TIME FOR WHAT REALLY MATTERS!
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GONG JUN'S ABS!!
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My face the entire scene. Dilraba nailed this. ahahaha
This is the part where I wish they would've taken as many liberties in contrast to the original story. A HOT MAKEOUT SCENE PEOPLE! COME ON! But sadly, it wouldn't have made it past the censors.
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A face of "I don't know what the fuck just happened" but she enjoyed it. Same, Dilraba. Same.
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lyselkatzfandomluvs · 8 months
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Wáng YìTíng 王奕婷
Wb update 2022.04.29
Her dances are so beautiful in Legend of AnLè 安樂傳.
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bizarrequazar · 1 year
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Official posters so far for Gong Jun and Dilraba Dilmurat’s upcoming drama Legend of AnLe
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lyselkatz · 9 months
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Líng Láng 琳琅 & Lùo MíngXi 洛銘西
能不能為您再跳一支舞?
只為您臨別時的那一次回顧
Can I perform one last dance for you?
Just so you look back at me before we part.
Yún FeiFei 雲菲菲 - BáiHú 白狐 (white fox)
...☕?/commission
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solomandr · 10 months
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Little meow meow prince
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trendingdrama · 10 months
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" Your highness I think I understand your intentions. "
[S01.02]The Legend Of Anle /  安乐传 (2023)
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wirwerdensiegen · 2 years
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Gong Jun as Prince Han Ye in the trailer for Legend of Anle.
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electricsoul-rpg · 9 months
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fc: Liu Yuning (刘宇宁)
ethnicity: Han Chinese
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its-chelisey-stuff · 9 months
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wow such a caring father
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But I'm loosing it at HanYe just chilling at his cell hahahahaha
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HAHAHAHA this man. Ah, Luo Mingxi, you're hilarious. After everything they hid from him for ten years, he has the audacity to ask him to be honest with him so he can help him? If only he and Ziyuan knew why he did what he did and for whom. You just don't deserve the man. You simply don't.
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lyselkatzfandomluvs · 8 months
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Wáng YìTíng 王奕婷
So Wonderful as LínLáng 琳琅 in Legend of AnLè 安樂傳.
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bizarrequazar · 9 months
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My poor little lesbian heart has been losing it over the relationship between An'ning and Anle throughout this whole show. I need a hundred chapter PDL-style fic about them, I will write it myself if I have to.
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ttt456 · 10 months
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credit. 酒烨九川@weibo
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fourseasonsfigs · 6 months
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White and Gold Han Ye (Handcrafted)
Following up yesterday's Black and Gold Han Ye is today's complementary fig. This is the second of two Han Ye figs designed by my favorite ultra-light clay artist to celebrate the airing of The Legend of Anle.
The inspiration for this fig is this beautiful outfit:
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Yes, you've seen a fig based on this costume before in my post Han Ye with Sword. I love this outfit!
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Unlike yesterday's much more serious fig, today's noble prince is very faintly smiling. You know I love that!
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The translucent effect the fig maker did on his costume is gorgeous. One of my favorite things about this fig, it really replicates the look of the original robes. I don't even want to think about how long it took the artist to do this.
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I really appreciate she puts her figs on stands - saves me a whole bunch of heartache trying to figure out how to get larger figs like this to stand up.
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Almost all her stands are wood, and she pins the figure's boots to them, so they are quite secure.
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Everything about this fig is great - the translucent overlayer on his robes, the little pose with his hand behind his back, all the detail on the front of his robes, and his beautiful mass of long hair.
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Ah, and we're coming around to one of my favorite things about this figure - his jade ring!
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If you've read my Han Ye posts before, you'll know that I absolutely love all the rings that he wore during many of his scenes. Let me just interject this fig-o-rama with a pic of him wearing this ring:
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Beautiful! I was really, really hoping that some enterprising seller would release replicas of any of his rings so I could buy them. I particularly wanted a white jade one he wore - but no luck.
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He's just perfect. I love him! All the detail on his robes is so pretty, with the little buttons, and all the gold work on his belt.
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The bottoms-up photos are quite challenging with the stand!
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I always find these sort of pictures interesting from a construction standpoint. The fact that someone can just make something like this is just incredible to me.
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His beautiful guan - I love the jewel she has here on it, it's so pretty. If you zoom in you can see the guan itself is sparkly gold!
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A lot of care and artistry goes into these figs. Just lovely.
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The promised pair of black and gold Han Ye and white and gold Han Ye. They're just beautiful.
Alright, Han Ye week will continue! Come back tomorrow for the next princely fig. Hmm...how about a spoiler?
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Please look forward to it - I already am! I can't wait to type this up.
Material: Ultra-light clay
Fig Count: 480
Scene Count: 31
Rating: Golden and gorgeous
[link back to Master Fig Index for more posts]
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kdram-chjh · 7 months
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Cdrama: Legend of Anle (2023)
Happy ending!💖 #thelegendofanle #Dilraba #simongong #gongjun ##youkumalaysia
Watch this video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N4hwKnmdoiI
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zhouszishu · 10 months
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THE LEGEND OF ANLE 【安乐传】 (2023): EPISODE 01
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