#ben winston for ts

[alarrytale]

Thank you for answering my question about Harry being surrounded by Zionist but it still doesn't make me understand how people can still say that he's a good person and he's a cupcake when he's literally surrounded by the worst of the worst of the business. Azoff's horrible reputation is legendary and by everything we know Harry sought them out. We know that James Corden is a bad person and it has been said that Harry has been with him while he has ripped into a poor service worker. How can he be a good person if he just sits there and lets James berate a poor service worker? I've always been told you are the company you keep so he just confuses me. You can say that James is just a industry friend but hes constantly around him and why would he publicly be around someone that is so horrible when he's pushing the image of being kind?

I'm a Larrie but I just can't get past Harry's circle. There's not one good person around him and at the point where he's at he can change that and he chooses not to. It feels like he's willing to kiss up to Zionists as long as it advances his career. I almost feel like those pictures of him wearing the Star of David back in the day were signaling that he's ready and willing to cooperate with them as long as they can get him where he needs to go. It makes me feel very icky.

Hi again, anon!

You're welcome 💙 It’s a difficult subject, but in the end it all boils down to who you think H is as a person, what his morals are and if you trust him to make the best decisions possible in the situation he is in. I struggle with all this too. I think most of us do. It is very icky. The world is never black and white and H isn't either. You can be a good person and do bad things. If you don’t know that what you're doing is bad, if you don’t have a choice and if doing a bad thing is stopping him from having to to do something even worse, that's mitigating circumstances.

I can't tell you how you should think or feel about all this. You have your own boundaries and feelings due to who you are and your life experience. You need to make your own decision on how to feel and what to do about it.

I think H is an uneducated person who doesn’t want to offend anybody, but who values friendship and connection over politics and differences of opinon. I think H doesn’t like conflict and i think it would be difficult for him to stand up to someone older, well known with a lot of power and connections. I also don't know if they've got leverage they hold against him.

I think you need to be reminded, that when we see H he's ment to be seen. It may seem like he's around J.C. all the time, because we always see him when he is. But he's not. I think they might be friends (i hate that fact), but a lot of what we've seen the past year has been pure business and image rehab for J.C. Even if they are friends, their friendships is pushed and publicised by the media.

Harry seems like he's interested in a lot of things (aquarius) and he took interest in judaism when he first met B.W. I don't think B.W. taught him a lot of history, and he probably only got the glorifed side of Isra*l tbh. H lifting the hammer of Isra*el was H not knowing any better i believe. If he's constantly around people of the same mindset he's not going to be exposed to different perspectives and see that he's been mislead or not been told the full story.

Harry does have good people around him. His family, Louis and the members of his tour band seems like good people with no agenda and who don't do things to take advantage of him. It's his management and greedy industry people like J.C and B.W who uses him who is the problem. I wish he could ditch them all, but i don't think that's possible. So here we are.

[this-daydream-is-dangerous-13]

Daylight MV by Harry Styles - why was it not the unreleased Two Ghosts MV 2.0? A timeline.

This video, released on July 19, 2023, is jam packed with Blondie and Haylor references. I think it was almost the sister project to the never released Two Ghosts MV…until it wasn’t. And I have an idea as to why.

Don’t believe me that it’s Haylor AF? Go read this amazing summary by @womanexile at whose request I am writing this timeline.

As we know, Harry was filming the video on and around May 10 and 11, 2022, based in articles and pap/drone photos from the time, like this Daily Mail article:

Let’s review the timeline:

April 22, 2022 - Harry performs at Coachella weekend 2 in Indio, CA.

April 26, 2022 - OW is onstage at CinemaCon in Las Vegas when she is served custody papers. H is not there.

But where is H? According to the article - circus training!

Late April/early May - Harry starts training in Kent, England with family-owned Sanctus Circus.

From the article:

“A source told [the publication]: Harry has spent weeks being taught circus skills for this video — he wanted it to be a real spectacle.

'It is probably his most expensive video yet because as well as all the rehearsals, it was a huge set with loads of extras and really extravagant costumes'.

The source revealed to the publication that the singer pushed himself to the limit in order to perform the stunts. Adding: 'It's been a real undertaking and the finished product will prove why he's one of the biggest pop stars in the world.' “

So late April - May 11 - circus stuff. Which is part time and on-and-off, I imagine. Then filming. And this was an UNDERTAKING that would have required a lot of planning.

He even arranged to have live animals, as outlined here in an article with the horse and parrot handlers:

Some take aways:

- he was supposed to the riding *the WHITE horse*. And when that didn’t work, he ensured the white horse remained in the shot.

- they only had a short time to teach him with the animals, but he listened and did exactly what they said.

- the legendary Styles charm extends to grumpy parrots named Poppleguy. “He's a little bit picky and he went straight on Harry Styles' shoulder, the sign of a good vibe," [his owner] said.”

Who can resist this man?!

But he HAS to know that he’ll get questions about the song title, since it shares a name with a song by Blondie. And he gets photographed making this video - articles about it start appearing May 12, 2022.

So what does he do next? Creates a smoke screen! Good thing two of his best friends—Ben Winston and James Corden—run a late night show known for outrageous bits with musicians. And he has a long history of doing crazy things with them, so no one will bat an eye.

He heads off to NYC for Harry’s House promo and ONO, but first — he has a DUPLICATE video to shoot.

And it’s hilarious, watching him shock and delight a quartet of Brooklyn residents and their friends:

And look at the clapperboard to date it:

Bottom right - MAY 17/22.

The next morning, May 18, he is on air with Howard Stern who immediately brings up Blondie (look at H’s usual TS grin!!). And watch him evade:

“You’re reading too much into it…I know you’d like me to tell you ‘you’re spot on’ but…yeah, you’re not.”

But you know who thinks Howard actually is Spot On? Harry’s Mom!!

The Late Late Daylight video airs on May 26/27, 2022 (depending on your time zone). And here is Anne’s IG story when she watches it:

And then - Harry keeps the circus video in his pocket. For FIFTEEN MONTHS. And makes and releases other videos.

There’s background speculation that the still images captured (Birdrry) might be for a Daydreaming or Grapejuice or other video, despite the bird. After all - we already have a Daylight MV!

And then, on July 18th, 2023 at his penultimate HSLOT concert in Lisbon, Harry has the bird image shown on the screen as he finishes singing Daylight.

After the concert, we learn that the video will drop in July 19th at 5pm UK, 12 pm Eastern.

And while the As It Was video promo stated: “It’s just us”, this one proclaims “It’s just a video, just for you.”

Which naturally leads us to this parallel:

And it is followed by the 10-minute 2nd encore piano ballad at the final HSLOT concert on July 22, introduced in Italian by saying “I wrote this for you, just for tonight.”

**My theory - its release is another in a long line of grand gestures designed to remind and assure Blondie of his ongoing, perpetual love and devotion.**

[skepticalarrie]

What the actual fuck I just read. Ben Winston really said that Harry used to bring girls to his house and once his wife found a NAKED Taylor Swift in his kitchen? Is he for real? He used even his wife's name. That's disgusting. And for god's sake Taylor was a superstar even back then. She didn't needed Ben's couch to fuck Harry. What the fuck.

LMAO I don’t remember about the naked in the kitchen part. But yeah, people are supposed to believe that not only multimillionaire Harry Styles was homeless and living in someone else’s basement, but also that TS stayed with Ben and his wife for over a week when she was in the UK… it’s absurd.

[womanexile]

I just realized, in maroon Taylor says “you say ‘your roommate’s cheap-ass screw top rosé, that’s how’” meaning the roommate is Taylor’s….

There are only two occasions when Taylor had roommates (as far as we know) in NY, in 2014 with K@rlie and (likely) 2016 with Cara. So this bashes the idea that maroon is for Jake and Joe completely for two reasons. Jake wasn’t an option in 2014 or 2016, and the song is written about a past relationship, so it can’t be about Joe. This basically confirmed maroon is about Harry even more. I’m poised to think it’s likely about 2014 since they were fwb into the year, but the implications of 2016 being the setting puts the entire narrative about toe beginning to the test.

HS is the one saying “how’d we end up on the floor anyway?” And TS say “your roommates cheapass screw top rose that’s how”

We’re all confident that this is when HS was living with Ben Winston. So around 2013.

[meet-me-in-the-kitchen]

Haylor Thoughts Masterpost

Just Haylor things, just because.

Last updated: 11/22/2021

I ran out of space, here’s the second part to this post for more updated content

Harry’s Songs about Taylor

Taylor’s Songs about Harry

Haylor Kissing in Times Square, NYE 2013 (a new angle showing their faces!!!)

Taylor Walking By Harry at the 2015 BBMAs (Clip)

Why I Think ‘Ready For It’ is About Harry

Masterpost of All Haylor Hangouts (Post "Break-Up" in Public Eye)

Harry Fixing Taylor’s Scarf in a Lobby (cute, lol)

Haylor Communicating Through Cryptic Lyrics from Other Artists' Songs

Timeline for Every Song Written on Fine Line

The Haylor Dynamic Explained

Taylor Wearing Harry's Shirts

The Infamous Attic H & T Would Sneak Into (ft. Ben Winston)

Stevie Nicks Gave Harry and Taylor Exclusive Necklaces

The Haylor Ring

Why If I Could Fly is Haylor

When Haylor Started Dating (Connor Kennedy/Timeline Info) -- Our Story Begins in New York

Sweet Disposition, Riptide, and Harry <\3

Harry and Taylor's Duet of Purple Rain at the 2013 VMAs Afterparty

Bitter Posts Taylor Liked on Socials After Yachtgate (Hendall)

H + T at Jingle Ball 2019

Respectful Discourse on Joe Alwyn/Taylor Swift

Why Only Angel is About Taylor, Not Kendall

Happily & Jealousy for Connor Kennedy

Could Cruel Summer Be About Harry Styles? (Chain Post)

Details on Calvin Harris' Song Olé + How it Touches on the Haylor/Tayvin Dynamic in 2015

Chain Post on Calvin Harris & Haylor

If You Swap 'Creature' with 'Disposition,' Sweet Creature has Some Serious Haylor Parallels

Sweet Creature Theoretical Discourse / II

High Chance that H&T Got Olivia Together

Why ‘Death By a Thousand Cuts” is About Harry (in depth analysis!)

Folklore

The Major Exile Theory Explaining Everything

Addition to the Exile theory (British Crown reference)

Fascinating Theory on How the 'Escapism Chapter' Relates to Haylor

If You Think the lakes Sounds Like 1989--That's Because it Does

Is Harry Styles Behind the Pseudonym, William Bowery?

Taylor Swift's Interview on Exile

Cardigan Footnotes and How They're Similar to Harry's Adore You Monologue @ Tiny Desk (Clip is linked)

Why It's Strange Taylor's Putting out Footnotes

Home and Haylor

Exile is Not Fiction

This is Me Trying Main Theory (Lyrical & Historical Haylor Parallels)

August and One Direction’s Summer Love Parallels

Interpreting Taylor's Interview (Ships passing in the night could be referring to Jaylor & Hamille)

This is Me Trying Theory--Alternately Why it Could Be Harry's Perspective

Haylor at the Lake District in 2012 (Windmere)

The Lakes, Hoax, and Haylor

Why The Lakes Has a Good Chance of Being Haylor

Taylor’s Response to TBSL

Exile is About Jealous Harry at the 2015 BBMAs, Response to Woman

Two Ghosts x August Parallel

Betty x FTDT Parallel

So it Goes x The 1 Parallel

Every Song on folklore About Harry

Exile is also a Response to MMITH (Proof Haylor Broke Up in a Hallway?)

Illicit Affairs is About Haylor

Taylor Mimicking Harry’s Falling Music Video for Cardigan

Taylor Indirectly Apologizing for Calvin (The 1)

My Theory on How the Teenage Love Triangle Parallels Haylor (James vs James Dean)

Falling x Cardigan GIFs (omg)

Cardigan lyrical parallel with Olivia (HS) and Clean (TS)

Cardigan Referencing Haylor Park Outing (High Line, NYC)

More Cardigan x 1989 References

Mirrorball is Taylor’s Response to Sign of the Times

1989

You Are in Love is About Haylor (Photographical Evidence)

part one , addition to part one

Taylor Referencing OOTW in her Maid of Honour Speech

Proof Haylor was Together in 2014

Taylor Talking About Harry Being the Person She’d Expect to Interrupt Her Wedding

Taylor Wearing Harry’s Shirt (2014)

Haylor Secretly Together for T’s 24th Birthday and into 2014

Harry’s Post Indicating their Reunion on Same Day ‘This Love’ Was Written

Picture of H+T at VSFS 2014 Afterparty (Taylor performed Style)

At 3:12 of OOTW MV, Taylor Wears Harry’s Initials on the Side of Her Wrist

Haylor After Meeting At Caleb Followill’s Bday Party (2015)

How You Get the Girl is About How Harry Got Taylor Back

Miscellaneous (1D, Lover, Fine Line, etc.):

Pretty In-Depth Analysis on WITW and Haylor Songs from Fine Line (with pics XD)

Why Walking in the Wind is About Taylor (With Photographical Evidence)

Common Sense on if Haylor Was Together

Why Afterglow, Fine Line, FTDT, etc. Are Haylor AF

Why ‘Sign of the Times’ + Its MV May Be Haylor

Why Golden Parallels the IKYWT MV (the music video’s monologue) and why the song is about Taylor

Explanation on Why Riptide is Significant to Haylor + Sweet Disposition

Furious Love at First Glance

Two Ghosts Unreleased MV

Olivia is About Taylor

For Those Who Live Under the Delusion Haylor Was for PR to Feel Better About Themselves

Short Fan Edit of Haylor Moments (Taylor talks about Harry)

Another Fan Edit of Haylor Moments (All You Had to Do Was Stay)

Anne Twist Posts a Cover of Cornelia Street (2020) Fun Fact: she still has a picture of Gemma, her, and Taylor’s sock clad feet on December of 2012 on her Instagram.

Early Days

List of Videos on Their Relationship Timeline (up to 2017)

Harry Looking for Taylor at Jingle Ball

Harry Staring Shamelessly at Taylor’s Ass

Harry Touching Taylor’s Arm in Front of Paparazzi

Harry’s Multiple Posts About Taylor Being His ‘Winding Wheel’ Decoded

Lyrical Parallels in their Music

The Last Time & Where Do Broken Hearts Go

Clean & Olivia

Wonderland & FTDT

Afterglow x Fine Line Parallel

From the Dining Table

@taylorswift

Also: check my haylor tag. It fills up with content I don’t always put on here :)

[seasurfacefullofclouds1]

How does Ben Winston manage to get such high profile projects like Grammy's, friends reunion etc......I don't find anything phenomenal about him....(.like his biggest strategy during Grammy was to secretly film casual conversation between artists and uploading it on official channel so that they can stir rumors about them ...h and ts....i don't care about either of them but it is so unprofessional of him)

Tbh I don’t know. I think old friendships and connections mean everything in television and movies, and although I don’t know them all, Ben was hanging out at NBC when Harry was doing SNL, even though Ben produces shows for CBS.

Opportunities open when the right doors are knocked. Ben’s efforts are nepotistic, bland, ploddingly literal and derivative. Yet he has produced high profile projects.

[meyhew]

WHY are everyone still obsessed with a 2 months “fling” he had with TS 8 YEARS AGO?? Like Jesus, just move on already, even haylories moved on. He will never be free of that, won’t he?😩

they even mentioned living in ben winston’s attic they checked every box 

[kindofsharethat]

Alright I never had anything against Ben Winston. I know he helped Harry a lot. But in one of the Aussie mag I guess, he talked about Harry's previous hook ups and TS was mentioned where she was naked or something. He could talk about Harry's music, his acting debut or anything else regarding him yet he chose to speak about his hook ups. H is always misunderstood as a womanizer and Ben is adding fuel to it. If I was in H's Place I would've got so mad at Ben.

i think it was more the other way around where harry helped ben and ben's kept using his name to take his turbo dumps. anyway. hate that dude.

[alarrytale]

I think he's either very uneducated, very influenced by his zi*nist friends and co-workers or very privileged so he doesn’t understand or care about geo-politics. He also a might be a coward. Or all the above. None of it would surprise me.//

IMO it´s the mixture of everything you wrote here. Uneducated, easily influenced and also even if he cares his connections to these people who made him this famous are just too strong to suddenly stop hanging out with them. And he if he has different opinion, he to acts like share their opinions evento inside? You know, similar to that story how JC yelled at staff in some restaurant and H was just there sitting in quiet doing nothing. Maybe he doesn´t even want to go into conflict with anyone especially with these people who he knows for +10 years. I don´t know but unfortunately I don´t see him suddenly stopping hanging out with these people and also no matter how much fans call him out for this, generally imo he won´t get cancelled for this because there´s still most of the fandom who I believe doesn´t care about these things because all they care about is his semi-god image, his looks and s*x life and as long as he appears on public looking cute nobody cares with who he hangs out. The bar is low for him even if there are fans like us who want him to do better and act better. It´s the same as how much the bar is low for gf harries with his stunts believing when he take a glance at his fake gf he´s immediatelly so in love and she´s the endgame.

Hi, anon!

Well, i expect better of him. Even if he doesn’t share their opinion he's silent, but he shows support though his actions. He's willingly going along with it. He's 30 years old, grow some backbone and take a stand. Harry is the bigger celebrity and the one in power here, he doesn't need to act like a meek follower of B*n's or Jam*s. If you're really friends with someone, the friendship will survive your differences of opinons and beliefs. H doesn’t need to stop being friends with them or hang out with them, he just badly need to distance himself from their beliefs and opinions, and clearly state his own beliefs and opinions.

I agree he'll be fine within the fandom, but it's everyone else calling him out on it that's his biggest issue. If he's cancelled outside the fandom and it becomes unpopular to be a fan of H because he's believed to be a zion*st, a queerbaiter and a hypocrite (someone who's preaching tpwk but is silent on genocide and his friends yelling at waiters), people are slowly going to abandon him. This issue is also something that every section of fandom is going to call him out for. Both larries, harries and gf harries are united in this. The divide is more between people who blindly idolise him and people who need better from him in order to support him.

The bar isn't that low on this issue. I think this is yet another example of people noticing that H is not perfect. The veil is coming off. It's a hard pill to swallow for most fans that H is silent on genocide and is even supporting his zioni*t friends and coworkers. I haven't seen this much discontent over H across fandom and among other fandoms ever. He's on thin ice and has been for awhile now. It will be interesting to see what happens next.

[womanexile]

I do think the problem is w harry's friends, the people he surrounds himself now. Everything hasn't been the same since 1D, it used to be Nick Grimshaw, Ed Sheeran, 1D boys, Ben Winston

I think it’s cause they weren’t around for TS & just saw the aftermath. Plus I don’t think HS shared much with them. He said he would never tell anyone everything.

[kathff2]

BW: Yeah, we’ll release that footage of them coming back together. That’s what we’ll do!

What you should actually do is take your trashy plagiarizing team and never come within a 10 miles radius of any band

[alarrytale]

marte, do you think h is a zionist?

Hi, anon!

Sigh. I've been mad at him all day after i saw the video of him with b*n wi*ston. I want to yell some sense into him. But no, i don't think he's a zio*ist. He's not jewish. I think he might be zio*ist-sympathetic or a neutral (which is basically being zio*ist-sympathetic..). He's certainly not shown himself to be anti-zio*ism or anti-genocide. He's had ample of time to do so. I think he's either very uneducated, very influenced by his zi*nist friends and co-workers or very privileged so he doesn’t understand or care about geo-politics. He also a might be a coward. Or all the above. None of it would surprise me.

There is no point in defending H over this. BW is 100% a zio*ist and according to twitter he's done some shit. I do not understand why H is doing this. People should call him out on it.

There are two major issues that's a threat to his image and career that he should take seriously. The first one is people thinking he's a queerbaiter and the other one is him being a zi*nist. So why would you then be publicly seen hanging out with a zio*ist to further confirm people's suspicions? Looks like they're willing to have fans turn against him over this in order to subtly show he supports his zi*nist friends and co-workers. That's pretty fucked up. I can't support this at all.

[underthisweather]

this may be a really stupid question but ... why do people hate ben winston ???

i don’t think that’s a stupid question! i’m not entirely sure why you’re asking me, but as far as i’ve gathered:

people are tired of his subpar music videos; apparently he plagiarized the you & i video; there was a recent thing where he tweeted about not liking wives and girlfriends and kids coming out onto the football field after a match (after germany won the world cup), which, like… okay, dude :/

that’s as much as i know, tho, maybe someone else has some other details!

[louislumbarcurve]

Ben puts the wince in Winston