#cpc theories

[cornus27florida]

Stories about Frederick's outfits in CPC

Frederick, the youngest Plaid Prince with the green color motif. The one that had outfits mostly in green color as well, with the exception is his academy era where he wear blue uniform with white tie. This post gonna entertwined some CPC story points regarding Frederick's outfits. For the starter of the everything, let's talk about his trademark Green Plaid Jacket (I have a theory about how the color of his jacket becomes murkier the more he knows about the engagement)

First we have standard male undergament outfit in the CPC universe, a pair of grey trousers and a pair of black boots in monochromatic style. His color is green, and motif of Plaid as part of Plaid Kingdom. His jacket like his brothers as have a pair of golden shoulder pads and a golden trim going down the collarbone part, with a three straps of golden cover with huge black buttons. The inner white shirts of the Plaid Princes modeled to each ones' character (Lance's carefree, Blaine's fancy)- which for Frederick he buttons up to his neck, making him distinct from his brothers, who leave their collars open. There's only some occasions where his collar opened, and all of those events is related to Gwendolyn in someway (discussed in later part of this post). The inner white shirt of him is a simple one with 3 white buttons, that the top is open

^ Second, we'll go from this comment from the webtoon - exactly from episode 146 when talking about how Frederick and Whitney now are like blank canvas and not related to their respected kingdoms. Here the most interesting part imho but also the longest, I do rereading and - voila?

I do rereading and realizes that all of intimate moments of gwenderick had him not wearing Plaid jacket 'properly'.. The comment from Sage person is very pretty close, most are having his jacket displace in some way - some where he opening it like to taking out his lucky charm the newt eyeball - while some didn't have him to wearing the trademark plaid jacket at all like wearing Jamie's change outfit, gala outfit etc

Here the list of episodes where Frederick not really looking like a Plaid Prince, or wondering if Plaid way truly for him!

2nd middle part and the center of the post

after math of amusement park (wears Jamie outfit) ep29

ep33-34 not only time when Fred realizes how kind Gwen is BUT also his beliefs like "innocence, kindness won't matter in this world-cuz I bullied due that". Where Frederick backstory been told, and @alexandersimpleton mentioned before that's interesting for little Frederick wears pastel

balcony serenade (ripping his own sleeve to treats Gwen) ep39

wear green suit that not Plaid at Lance's BD party -ep49

Although just in dream, bonus short ep 4 & (s3) short 4 + his pajama although in plaid motif but open around heart

Frederick realizes what he wants (he likes Gwen) , put his jacket like a robe or as the outer (ep70) - double as him meets his inner child. Another example of him opened up. Frederick's inner child outfits also coincidetally not him as a Plaid prince but with the uniform (the start of his innocence tainted) and little prince (which he thinks the most fits to him, his gala outfit that becomes blatant foreshadowing) - and I somehow have a feeling, that we're see Frederick's inner child again somehow it's happening

ep74 the portrait duel, his upper top not properly put as the usual - he duels with Leopold that showing his conviction

ep82 very important ep as we had monologue that Frederick realizes Plaid way isn't fits to him - he still wearing his Plaid jacket compltely but had flashbacks where he shown to not wear properly, or in the real time having the jacket in messy state + funny pose lol

ep89 he offers his waterproof jacket to Gwen, makes him with white shirt - also hints of his self-sacrifice tedency "I'll go instead"

slightly opened up when he had talk with Syrah (ep90)

ep92 the confession Downpour (part 2), Frederick opening up his jacket to takes out the gala ticket for Gwendolyn

ep100 Frederick opening up his upper jacket to take out the newt eyeball that becomes his lucky charm

ep106 Frederick confessing to Gwendolyn that he thinks she's beautiful with the upper part of his jacket opened

Frederick might not know but Gwen imagines herself with him without his trademark plaid jacket like this; ep112

the gala arc since ep 120 with him as the tiniest prince, and with that along with his brothers - become foreshadowing

since season 4 part 2, we have Fred without his jacket completely which symbolizes him as the 'blank canvas'

The last part, gonna be entertwined with another theory 0.0

Frederick = the tiniest prince = little prince

Let's see that webtoon comment image back, one conclusion that I find very interesting that will related to Little Prince :

"In order to create closer and healhtly relationship with Princess Gwendolyn - Frederick needs to distance himself to being a Plaid Prince, and as long as he still keep the idealism (along with toxicities) of the Plaid kingdom he can't reaches Gwen. Gwen needs to see for who he actually is, and Frederick should become who he actually is - the true him"

This, goes hard with the epilogue part of the Little Prince.. Because the story ends with Little Prince looks like he's dying as he get bitten by the snake (and in the CPC, this refers to the Giant Serpent - that keep recurring in Frederick's dreams) so he could returns to his home where his lover the rose there

this means, in order for Frederick could 'return to his lover' = 'reaches Gwen' - he needs to be bitten by the Giant Serpent

The bite (be it literal or metaphorical), will make the little prince looks like he is dying - with several interpretations of little prince even thinks that scene as the prince attempting suicide. The CPC never show explicit suicide attempts BUT implicit scenes happened, with the recent example from Frederick himself that dares 'hissing' Blaine to kill him (ep158). I feel the incoming foreshadowings of some ugly dark scenes in the future that will happen, as Frederick doing something similar to what he dares to Blaine but now to the real Giant Serpent - but it seems won't ends well.

[ Here my further analysis about TGS, which likely Leland ]

So.. Frederick will and need to 'die' like the little prince then?

Me and @meritre24601 hoping for different take as seen the death not be literally as passed on from the real world but metaphorically. That's already happened canonically during the CPC intruder arc as the one that die isn't Renée but the bad parts of the CPC - with Nell's explanation...

This mean the metaphorically death. Frederick as the Plaid Prince is the one that die as bitten by TGS - but right after that he rebirth as simply "Frederick". Rebirth and transformation are good symbolism of snake/serpent that @saemi-the-dreamer wrote. As he indeed 'die' but got rebirth for new transformation of his life, where he's showing the true him that shown cleverly by LambCat in throughout series from his outfit, he could finally reaches Gwen - the happy ending of their reunion that we are hopes ;-;

[im-doing-good]

My prediction for how Cursed Princess Club is going to end

There have been plenty of callbacks to previous scenes and one scene I am semi-confident will show up is this part of episode 77- Gwen's Portrait

This scene would be them hanging up Lilith's portrait

Probably fixing parts of the Pastel Palace since it's super beat up. This can also be related to what Isolde might be doing.

Maybe planning a wedding? Nell and Jolie's or Gwen and Fredrick's (the last one might happen after a noticeable time skip)

I'm thinking continuing Blaine's redemption arc since there's not much time to fully flesh it out. Also parallels to Whitney.

And then something happens a week later idk

[cpcposting]

One theory of how Jack will find out. The omniscient clam told him everything about Leland after the offhand comment he made in its presence.

Lolll yes

[cursed-princess-club]

Do you have any theories as to what happened to Jack's parents and the rest of the Pastel Palace residents seen in the "Lilyth's Diary" chapters?

I've seen some theories where maybe some big incident happened or they're no longer alive which is why jack abruptly took over... putting myself in lambcat's mind i could imagine them going like "oh yeah jesse and helena are actually on some big vacation because they didnt wanna be around lilyth lol" so MAAAYBE that. Or something serious actually DID happen. i couldnt imagine jack kicking them out because he seems very oblivious to the tension around lilyth but who knows... maybe they got into a fight... and jesse and helena just dipped...

[princesses-and-such]

It just hit me that Gwen has never once been angry against anyone in the comic, even though she's the main character of the comic! I feel like if she is going to be angry, it's gonna be a big character moment for her where she finally allows herself to be selfish and express her feelings.

If you think Gwen is ever going to get angry at someone, who would it be and why?

[ripslingerfan13]

Episode 157 Showdown!

There are no distinctive features on the wolf yet to tell us who he is but Gwen just ran into a room that is the same crystal room at Jamie’s art show. Clearly we’re getting to the part where Gwen had lied to Frederick not telling him that she knows he called her ugly.

Though I have seen a few hints to Leland being the wolf! And I think him heading up to Gwen’s room might be emphasizing that theory.

That fact that his brothers weren’t all that surprised and were like ‘of course he did.’ That says something, we need more on that.

Watching the CPC kick ass! Hella Awesome!!!🥳

Leland ordering his two sons to ‘get things under control or I will.’ Was a blatant threat towards them than the others! And they know damn well just what he’s capable of and what he’d do to them, especially Frederick!

Bullshit! Y’all expect me to believe that Blaine is really going to fight his baby brother with a sword! Bull Crap!

Especially after he and Lance beat the crap out of Frederick’s bullies at the gala! We still don’t know if they’re even still alive or not!

I thought at first that Lance standing up to his father first would help Blaine to stand with him against Leland as well, with all three brothers now standing against their father!

But that last panel is just screaming ‘emotional breakdown ahead!’

And though I hate to admit it, catching that spear was pretty badass.

[randomgentlefolk]

Leelathae portrait related theory

So, there's a theory that the reason Leland pushed Blaine is because of Leelathae's spirit. This theory was supported by what Frederick said in the early episode.

This means Leelathae's spirit might be hanging around in the Plaid Kingdom. Since Gwen is the spitting image of Leelathae, we can assume that Leelathae is the one that has been haunting the Plaid kingdom's portraits. But that left one question for me, how did Leelathae end up in the Plaid Kingdom?

For some reason my mind kept on thinking that, ghosts shouldn't be able to leave the place they died in, right? And even if they can, they should be close to something that relates to them.. like something that is theirs, or perhaps, a portrait?

Again, how does Leelathae's spirit end up in the Plaid kingdom? Does it maybe have something to do with whatever Leland stole? Since his message said 'a picture' that means what he stole could most likely be a portrait. What if the portrait has something to do with Leelathae, and that's how her spirit ends up in the Plaid Kingdom?

[alexandersimpleton]

Okay okay okay, hear me out.

So, there are three monochrome royals

And Frederick has three bullies

And then Whitney separated himself from the other two

And in the gala we only see two bullies

Hint hint, nudge nudge

[the-backwards-eel]

Wait…do yall think “tomorrow” jack will be back from his expedition and theyll meet him at the canyon to get the omniscient clam???

[jidem]

So, yesterday i asked you all what your favorite character was, and you were all extremely based and i wanted to befriend all of you. Today tho? Today i want to make ennemies (affectionate).

So.

Pastel Princess x Plaid Princes :

Are they gonna break up or what?

Discuss.

Ill put my own thoughts under the read more. I also would like to say that even tho ive worded this like a call to discourse for comedic purpose, i dont think there's any wrong answer here, and i'd just like to discuss the BEST WEBTOON OUT THERE.

So i dont think im controversial when i say that gwen and Frederick arent in any real danger here? Like! They've talked! There's still are some things that would benefit from being talked further, but the heavy communication lifting is DONE. Those kids are, despite everything, still in a position where it's going to take all of one (1) conversation for them to make up and hopefully make out.

Tho i say that but Gwen is going through some serious emotional damage rn, so those crazy kids might decide to still take a break to rethink their relationship, which i mean. Good! For! Them. I dont have any doubts they'll rekindle even in that case, however.

Maria and Blaine tho 😬

Well. I say that but actually, i think that they still stand an okay chance. Blaine has NOT been showing the best of himself out here, and im still waiting to know how much of that was just an act before giving my FINAL JUDGMENT, but if there's some good intentions in there, then not everything's lost. Those two have been communicating, after all. Blaine has made a scincere effort to get to know Maria, and he has shared some of his doubt with her as well! That's good that's a good base ! Of course then he betrayed her and attacked her castle, she used his insecurities against him, and we still dont know how on board with The Plan:tm: he actually is, which does put a damper in my optimism.

I would be really disappointed if they just got back together immediately after the final arc. Those two NEED to take a serious break. It would be very good for Maria to consider some other options, and it would be GREAT for Blaine to get some therapy. I think that they need some time away from each other to reconsider. And if after that they wanna try again? Great! I really do think that those two can work together.

Lorena and Lance tho i really cant say the same thing. Of the three, i think that they have the highest chances of breaking up for good. They never really learned anything about each other deeper than surgace level, they have very conflicting life goals, and i think not enough deep affection toward each other to work through it. Plus, Lorena being the "warrior" amongst her sister, and aiming to take over the military, i just dont see her forgiving the man who INVADED HER KINGDOM.

Now, i do think that those two would be amazing besties, and i wish them a long and fructuous friendship. But it would take a LOT of legwork in a VERY short time for me to buy them as a romantic couple.

[cornus27florida]

Importance of Knowledge

I initially wants to make entire different theory about Plaid Princes rebellion but I am not in mood for now... I like to make an cpc theory post

^ there must be a very interesting reason over why Leland, the Plaid King, the main antagonist of the CPC deems that knowledge (all-knowing power) will be the most powerful kind - of power.

It's still on fanon theory extension, but with overall of his portrayal makes him such a cunning 🐍villain as even thou he could be sadistic and indeed has terrifying physical power, he believes that non-physical attacks to be the most painful kind to inflict others. He's abusing his own family not by usual type of domestic abuse as going physical BUT with clever usage of words and treatments. He rips the source of motherly love by distancing Isolde from their sons since baby, make his sons could be 'crafted' easier for what he plan - to matching Jack's girls interests with knowledge that he know as BFF. He manipulates his sons very clever to the point that they're not aware at all that they're in abnormal family, they believes that's just how the life it goes to be the perfect plaid prince 'charming' (embodiment of princes that will swoons Jack's girls in the future) and that's because he didn't do physical attack directly if could be avoided. He makes the way of princes lives is constant extreme choice of swim or sink, and treats them with "stick-carrot"

If I could borrowing other fandom, I take "Slyterin" of Harry Potter. The embodiment of cunning that very good with knowledges, they dislike brute forces (although capable to do so) and prefer to do things steathly. Words is power. Knowledges are power. Power =/= muscle

And as Slyterin house symbol is a snake 🐍 is totally enforcing me that Leland who wear his gala outfit as "serpent gambit" to be the perfect embodiment of Slyterin. Sylterin is very complex house and doesn't mean all of them are evil, they have hearts as well like normal human beings... But Slyterin key words are related to becomes non physical violence villain (anti-mainstream one in the typical battle series) and actually the hardest to break because they are armored metaphorically with knowledges that make them usually very clever and could thinks steps ahead to make their evil plan could happen, and twist accordingly current situation forces them

I won't talk about the examples as imho it's quite clear (although I give links to further reading for examples later on) but relating Leland as villain that using knowledges - the neutral symbolism of the snake/serpent is such powerful move by LambCat, makes him the perfect (sympatetic, relatable) villain in the comedy webtoon

Now let's move on to his son that looks the most like him, Frederick. I am reading his wiki page and find something that's very interesting

CURSE Doesn't have a real one but feels his inferiority among the royals of his family is akin to one - while not technically a curse, "his words could become true later on;" (Such a thing that if having knowledge awareness about it, become such a powerful move for overall entirety) also the least lucky character in the series.

Fred's "pseudo" curse making him as a revealator

An example of knowledge holder type of people, and if the one's aware about it could becomes a very powerful ability as it could "bends" the reality. The clear example is Fred's off comment that he majoring in administrative skill, which on the CPC current plot he used it to help his allies bursting in the pastel palace etc (his sudden knowledge about Aurelia's melting curse make that move possible). He knows the strength and skill of another (even if that's as a curse, it's turns to become useful power instead) - and it's very good that Frederick is a kind, good hearted person because this 'power' if say in thr hand of tyrant will becomes so terrifying and horrible

There's another example in other character, Nell. Nell is the resident seer of the CPC regarding random future bad omens. It's unfortunate that her curse not shown useful clearly for a war..but her death premonition about the death of CPC member becomes symbol of the CPC finally "heals-forgives" and could takes the next step

In summary about people with truths knowledge type: based on the internet there

Prophet is a teacher of known truth; a seer is a perceiver of hidden truth, a revelator is a bearer of new truth. In the widest sense, the one most commonly used, the title 'prophet' includes the other titles and makes of the prophet, a teacher, perceiver, and bearer of truth.

It's personal belief intake but for me prophets - related to religion truths and knowledges, as the messenger of the God of religion teachings BUT we won't discuss about it (as I respect anyone belief and religions) because we'll talk 'bout cpc

I feel there's no one that fits being a prophet in the cpc, but in term of the types means Frederick is a revealator while Nell is a seer

Leland is uncertain but I say he's the type that well versed in the knowledges but not on the kind of supersitious (Fred's) or magical (Nell)

He just truly brimming with knowledges, from anything and anywhere. His office brimming with thick books, so many times we shown him to reading a book - or newspapers. Leland is an example of booksmart and likely has very high IQ, but he's cunning and likely has low EQ with example how he didn't symphatizing with the cursed people as revealed in Gwen's dinner party

Leland is a very smart person but lacking the intelligence of the heart (which could be saying with everything that's going on espc what he do to his own family, making him a psychopath) and basically a coward about his own heart feelings. He knows that books, the window of knowledge, is very powerful.. He knows that if there's single entity to make him as the most powerful, is by having the omniscient clam because info=power

Link lists of further reading in cpc blr !!!

The Story of the Little Prince in the CPC

@saemi-the-dreamer knowledge as the neutral symbol meaning of a snake

@the-giggling-guava reblogs about Plaid Princes result of Leland clever abuse (Blaine)

[im-doing-good]

Y'all Cursed Princess Club just updated. I'm going crazy about this episode. I don't got any money to spend on coins, so I'm gonna guess what's gonna happen in the next few episodes based on their thumbnail.

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I'm a bit confused on what this expression is suppose to mean. Depending on the context, it could be fear, if this scene is directly after the end of 'Showdown'...

Visually, the emotion reads more of concern or shock rather than fear. But based on this episode's title, 'Blaine vs. Frederick' I believe it's the latter.

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What caught my eye the most about this chapter is that it's titled 'The Prince...' instead of Blaine or any names of the other princes. Since I read on a mobile device the title gets cut off so I'm assuming the full title is 'The Prince vs. the Cursed Princess Club'. If that is so, then Blaine's gonna be in a lot of trouble if the CPC heard what he said about Gwen or Frederick.

And also Prez turns into a spider so he has to watch out.

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There's not much to note here. Blaine's about to attack someone or something but, again, it really depends on the context.

Thank you for listening to my TED Talk.

[cpcposting]

Do you think Princess Aurelia will tell King Jack about taking his late wife’s diary after finishing it? What will his reaction be when he finds out how his wife was truly feeling and why she rejected him at first? Will we find out why Jack’s relatives aren’t around?

Ahh I bet Jack will find out by accident loll (like Aurelia drops the diary and he sees it idk). Poor guy is gonna be having some angst aye :( Imo I reckon his relatives aren’t around bc they disapproved of his marriage with Leelathae 😔 And just left

[cursed-princess-club]

Theories on why the Pastel siblings have been locked away for so long.

Lilyth didn’t want her children to be exposed by the very society who cruelly judged her and King Jack took it to far by thinking it meant never letting them leave the palace or far from Pastel Kingdom until he’s found what he needs to find for her.

King Leland exposed King Jack’s family’s true thoughts regarding Leelathae. Jack banished them from Pastel Kingdom and kept them away from his children, leaving Leland as his only support. Coupled with his subtle manipulation and Jack’s loneliness, he convinced him to keep his children away from the larger part of royal society so that when the time came Jack’s daughters will be willing to marry Leland’s sons since they weren’t presented with any other options.

this!! this would make A LOT of sense. banger theories. you can't tell me leland wouldn't manipulate this into happening.... having jack raise his daughters to be vulnerable in his eyes while leland had his sons "prepared", taking away options from the pastels, all really does seem like leland and it really do be fitting his motives. and jack misunderstanding something definitely seems like it's likely too lmao. ONE OR THE OTHER. BOTH REALLY WORK

[deldeldel90]

AAAAAA!!! MARIA AND BECKETT MEETING??? I'm so ready for this!!! these two HAVE MY HEART.

[princesses-and-such]

You know? I think it's curious that we never got to see how Leland personally feels about Gwen. Although this is the case with all the Pastel siblings, I think Gwen is a bit more noteworthy since she's the spitting image of the woman Jack married with.

Also, in his plan imagination thing, when Jack gets arrested and Leland achieves ultimate power, Gwen is completely hidden from everyone else. It doesn't look like a coincidence either:

So needless to say, I'm a bit worried for Gwen.