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cornus27florida · 5 months
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Importance of Knowledge
I initially wants to make entire different theory about Plaid Princes rebellion but I am not in mood for now... I like to make an cpc theory post
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^ there must be a very interesting reason over why Leland, the Plaid King, the main antagonist of the CPC deems that knowledge (all-knowing power) will be the most powerful kind - of power.
It's still on fanon theory extension, but with overall of his portrayal makes him such a cunning 🐍villain as even thou he could be sadistic and indeed has terrifying physical power, he believes that non-physical attacks to be the most painful kind to inflict others. He's abusing his own family not by usual type of domestic abuse as going physical BUT with clever usage of words and treatments. He rips the source of motherly love by distancing Isolde from their sons since baby, make his sons could be 'crafted' easier for what he plan - to matching Jack's girls interests with knowledge that he know as BFF. He manipulates his sons very clever to the point that they're not aware at all that they're in abnormal family, they believes that's just how the life it goes to be the perfect plaid prince 'charming' (embodiment of princes that will swoons Jack's girls in the future) and that's because he didn't do physical attack directly if could be avoided. He makes the way of princes lives is constant extreme choice of swim or sink, and treats them with "stick-carrot"
If I could borrowing other fandom, I take "Slyterin" of Harry Potter. The embodiment of cunning that very good with knowledges, they dislike brute forces (although capable to do so) and prefer to do things steathly. Words is power. Knowledges are power. Power =/= muscle
And as Slyterin house symbol is a snake 🐍 is totally enforcing me that Leland who wear his gala outfit as "serpent gambit" to be the perfect embodiment of Slyterin. Sylterin is very complex house and doesn't mean all of them are evil, they have hearts as well like normal human beings... But Slyterin key words are related to becomes non physical violence villain (anti-mainstream one in the typical battle series) and actually the hardest to break because they are armored metaphorically with knowledges that make them usually very clever and could thinks steps ahead to make their evil plan could happen, and twist accordingly current situation forces them
I won't talk about the examples as imho it's quite clear (although I give links to further reading for examples later on) but relating Leland as villain that using knowledges - the neutral symbolism of the snake/serpent is such powerful move by LambCat, makes him the perfect (sympatetic, relatable) villain in the comedy webtoon
Now let's move on to his son that looks the most like him, Frederick. I am reading his wiki page and find something that's very interesting
CURSE Doesn't have a real one but feels his inferiority among the royals of his family is akin to one - while not technically a curse, "his words could become true later on;" (Such a thing that if having knowledge awareness about it, become such a powerful move for overall entirety) also the least lucky character in the series.
Fred's "pseudo" curse making him as a revealator
An example of knowledge holder type of people, and if the one's aware about it could becomes a very powerful ability as it could "bends" the reality. The clear example is Fred's off comment that he majoring in administrative skill, which on the CPC current plot he used it to help his allies bursting in the pastel palace etc (his sudden knowledge about Aurelia's melting curse make that move possible). He knows the strength and skill of another (even if that's as a curse, it's turns to become useful power instead) - and it's very good that Frederick is a kind, good hearted person because this 'power' if say in thr hand of tyrant will becomes so terrifying and horrible
There's another example in other character, Nell. Nell is the resident seer of the CPC regarding random future bad omens. It's unfortunate that her curse not shown useful clearly for a war..but her death premonition about the death of CPC member becomes symbol of the CPC finally "heals-forgives" and could takes the next step
In summary about people with truths knowledge type: based on the internet there
Prophet is a teacher of known truth; a seer is a perceiver of hidden truth, a revelator is a bearer of new truth. In the widest sense, the one most commonly used, the title 'prophet' includes the other titles and makes of the prophet, a teacher, perceiver, and bearer of truth.
It's personal belief intake but for me prophets - related to religion truths and knowledges, as the messenger of the God of religion teachings BUT we won't discuss about it (as I respect anyone belief and religions) because we'll talk 'bout cpc
I feel there's no one that fits being a prophet in the cpc, but in term of the types means Frederick is a revealator while Nell is a seer
Leland is uncertain but I say he's the type that well versed in the knowledges but not on the kind of supersitious (Fred's) or magical (Nell)
He just truly brimming with knowledges, from anything and anywhere. His office brimming with thick books, so many times we shown him to reading a book - or newspapers. Leland is an example of booksmart and likely has very high IQ, but he's cunning and likely has low EQ with example how he didn't symphatizing with the cursed people as revealed in Gwen's dinner party
Leland is a very smart person but lacking the intelligence of the heart (which could be saying with everything that's going on espc what he do to his own family, making him a psychopath) and basically a coward about his own heart feelings. He knows that books, the window of knowledge, is very powerful.. He knows that if there's single entity to make him as the most powerful, is by having the omniscient clam because info=power
Link lists of further reading in cpc blr !!!
The Story of the Little Prince in the CPC
@saemi-the-dreamer knowledge as the neutral symbol meaning of a snake
@the-giggling-guava reblogs about Plaid Princes result of Leland clever abuse (Blaine)
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randomgentlefolk · 1 year
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Leelathae portrait related theory
So, there's a theory that the reason Leland pushed Blaine is because of Leelathae's spirit. This theory was supported by what Frederick said in the early episode.
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This means Leelathae's spirit might be hanging around in the Plaid Kingdom. Since Gwen is the spitting image of Leelathae, we can assume that Leelathae is the one that has been haunting the Plaid kingdom's portraits. But that left one question for me, how did Leelathae end up in the Plaid Kingdom?
For some reason my mind kept on thinking that, ghosts shouldn't be able to leave the place they died in, right? And even if they can, they should be close to something that relates to them.. like something that is theirs, or perhaps, a portrait?
Again, how does Leelathae's spirit end up in the Plaid kingdom? Does it maybe have something to do with whatever Leland stole? Since his message said 'a picture' that means what he stole could most likely be a portrait. What if the portrait has something to do with Leelathae, and that's how her spirit ends up in the Plaid Kingdom?
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the-backwards-eel · 1 year
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Wait…do yall think “tomorrow” jack will be back from his expedition and theyll meet him at the canyon to get the omniscient clam???
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alexandersimpleton · 1 year
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So, the two times Gwen had her ego demolished, it had the motif of shattered glass right? And her self esteem issues are symbolized by a broken mirror, so that's all well and good right.
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Until you realize
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And that pannek also shows up when Frederick learns that Gwen heard him insult her.
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Frederick seemingly associated the moment with when he was first bullied, an extremely naive child, being insulted by someone he was seemingly very excited to meet, just like Gwen. And he seemed VERY distraught about it. Given his upbringing, and the fact Prez had to explain this to Gwen, it'd be a surprise if Frederick knew this was a thing at all, let alone the damage it really meant. He wouldn't be having this bad of a breakdown, unless he knew how it felt. And maybe, that picture was less put there to illustrate his associating this with his bullies, or him feeling like he did when the called him that, but maybe, it was to illustrate a sense, of extreme deja vu....
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im-doing-good · 6 months
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Random seemingly insignificant pieces of dialog that I think will end up being important plot points
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THEORY:
The reason this version of the Doggyssey is abridged was because it used to belong to Lilith.
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Since Lilith was unfamiliar to the language, she would have read a much simpler version of the book. The book was probably given to Frederick as a baby shower gift or on one of his birthdays. The Doggyssey then kick-started his love for reading. Frederick then gives the book to Gwendolyn.
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It just hit me that Gwen has never once been angry against anyone in the comic, even though she's the main character of the comic! I feel like if she is going to be angry, it's gonna be a big character moment for her where she finally allows herself to be selfish and express her feelings.
If you think Gwen is ever going to get angry at someone, who would it be and why?
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ripslingerfan13 · 6 months
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Episode 157 Showdown!
There are no distinctive features on the wolf yet to tell us who he is but Gwen just ran into a room that is the same crystal room at Jamie’s art show. Clearly we’re getting to the part where Gwen had lied to Frederick not telling him that she knows he called her ugly.
Though I have seen a few hints to Leland being the wolf! And I think him heading up to Gwen’s room might be emphasizing that theory.
That fact that his brothers weren’t all that surprised and were like ‘of course he did.’ That says something, we need more on that.
Watching the CPC kick ass! Hella Awesome!!!🥳
Leland ordering his two sons to ‘get things under control or I will.’ Was a blatant threat towards them than the others! And they know damn well just what he’s capable of and what he’d do to them, especially Frederick!
Bullshit! Y’all expect me to believe that Blaine is really going to fight his baby brother with a sword! Bull Crap!
Especially after he and Lance beat the crap out of Frederick’s bullies at the gala! We still don’t know if they’re even still alive or not!
I thought at first that Lance standing up to his father first would help Blaine to stand with him against Leland as well, with all three brothers now standing against their father!
But that last panel is just screaming ‘emotional breakdown ahead!’
And though I hate to admit it, catching that spear was pretty badass.
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cpcposting · 1 year
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One theory of how Jack will find out. The omniscient clam told him everything about Leland after the offhand comment he made in its presence.
Lolll yes
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cursed-princess-club · 5 months
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Do you have any theories as to what happened to Jack's parents and the rest of the Pastel Palace residents seen in the "Lilyth's Diary" chapters?
I've seen some theories where maybe some big incident happened or they're no longer alive which is why jack abruptly took over... putting myself in lambcat's mind i could imagine them going like "oh yeah jesse and helena are actually on some big vacation because they didnt wanna be around lilyth lol" so MAAAYBE that. Or something serious actually DID happen. i couldnt imagine jack kicking them out because he seems very oblivious to the tension around lilyth but who knows... maybe they got into a fight... and jesse and helena just dipped...
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jidem · 10 months
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So, yesterday i asked you all what your favorite character was, and you were all extremely based and i wanted to befriend all of you. Today tho? Today i want to make ennemies (affectionate).
So.
Pastel Princess x Plaid Princes :
Are they gonna break up or what?
Discuss.
Ill put my own thoughts under the read more. I also would like to say that even tho ive worded this like a call to discourse for comedic purpose, i dont think there's any wrong answer here, and i'd just like to discuss the BEST WEBTOON OUT THERE.
So i dont think im controversial when i say that gwen and Frederick arent in any real danger here? Like! They've talked! There's still are some things that would benefit from being talked further, but the heavy communication lifting is DONE. Those kids are, despite everything, still in a position where it's going to take all of one (1) conversation for them to make up and hopefully make out.
Tho i say that but Gwen is going through some serious emotional damage rn, so those crazy kids might decide to still take a break to rethink their relationship, which i mean. Good! For! Them. I dont have any doubts they'll rekindle even in that case, however.
Maria and Blaine tho 😬
Well. I say that but actually, i think that they still stand an okay chance. Blaine has NOT been showing the best of himself out here, and im still waiting to know how much of that was just an act before giving my FINAL JUDGMENT, but if there's some good intentions in there, then not everything's lost. Those two have been communicating, after all. Blaine has made a scincere effort to get to know Maria, and he has shared some of his doubt with her as well! That's good that's a good base ! Of course then he betrayed her and attacked her castle, she used his insecurities against him, and we still dont know how on board with The Plan:tm: he actually is, which does put a damper in my optimism.
I would be really disappointed if they just got back together immediately after the final arc. Those two NEED to take a serious break. It would be very good for Maria to consider some other options, and it would be GREAT for Blaine to get some therapy. I think that they need some time away from each other to reconsider. And if after that they wanna try again? Great! I really do think that those two can work together.
Lorena and Lance tho i really cant say the same thing. Of the three, i think that they have the highest chances of breaking up for good. They never really learned anything about each other deeper than surgace level, they have very conflicting life goals, and i think not enough deep affection toward each other to work through it. Plus, Lorena being the "warrior" amongst her sister, and aiming to take over the military, i just dont see her forgiving the man who INVADED HER KINGDOM.
Now, i do think that those two would be amazing besties, and i wish them a long and fructuous friendship. But it would take a LOT of legwork in a VERY short time for me to buy them as a romantic couple.
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cornus27florida · 4 months
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Incorrect CPC theories for funnies
Thanks to @the-giggling-guava for enabling to be deranged!
in nutshell, what if Plaid Princes truly confirmed as related to Monochrome somehow in the way of making Leland as the illegitimate child born from affair of either of Plaid Royal (either the yellow or purple's crown as "Leland"'s Parents - with someone that likely Monochrome Royalty?
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Frederick: "Hey Blaine and Lance, you know that weird guy I met on the side of the road and camped out with? That burly yoga teacher that taught mediations at Gwen's dinner party? Oh also the same person that weirdly come in at the Pastel Palace to help me fighting Father? Yeah, he's our cousin."
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Blaine: "Wait, I am related to that weird guy with such ugly face tattoo? I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT! Arghhhhhhhhh"
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Lance: .... X_X (mind overload, can't thinking at all ahaha)
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^ same expression but with Lance, this dude only has 3 brain cells and that revealation gonna fried all of his mind
Whitney: "....I always see Frederick as my younger brother - but I didn't know that's gonna be literal as we're somehow cousins... and that's make me get extra 2 cousins..."
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randomgentlefolk · 1 year
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Thinking abt cursed princess club again and. Wondering about how the pastel kingdom royal family mentions their beauty fading quickly, and how badly they want to unlock that whole eternal beauty thing and. Do you think maybe they were going at it in the wrong way? The former king and queen were mad at their son (I frgt the kings name help-) bc he was marrying Gwen’s mom and that would “undo all their hard work.” But she WAS beautiful and all of their kids ended up beautiful, and idk. I wonder where and when beauty got defined a certain way in the pastel kingdom anyways, and that, if the mom DID “break” the cycle so to speak, haven’t they already unlocked longer lasting beauty? Bc the reason it seems to fade so quickly, I feel, has to do with them and their goals and stress- but leelathee is not of the pastel kingdom. So she’s introduced smth new to the bloodline. This didn’t even make sense I’m sorry 😭
No, no it does makes sense! I actually made a post similar to this a few months ago
Maybe beside the stress and goal that is messing up with their cycle, it could also be that while they are beautiful on the outside, they are not so much on the inside (this sounds cliche but bare with me). Maybe they have been looking at it the wrong way, or they have been looking at it the right way but they view themselves as someone with beauty inside too (which they are not :/)
Because let's be real here, if Jack married someone with only beauty on the outside, it's prone that the children wouldn't as good either. Imagine the pastel siblings with the same superpowers, but they're not kind.
I can't really explain how it would be but it wouldn't be exactly the best :')
Anyway, so with Leelathae, like you said, introducing something new to the bloodline, I think that is what has been the perfect mix into the cycle, therefore creating the generations Jesse and Helena always wanted. (This was worded so wrong, I am really sorry. English is not my first language so it can be hard sometimes)
So, yes! I agree with you. I think they did go at it the wrong way.
Oh, and speaking about the Pastel King and Queen (I'm just gonna say Jesse and Helena) stress which affects the cycle, on episode 107, there was a moment where Jamie was freaking out because he has a grey hair, and he freaked out right after he was stressing out about someone that is going to harm his sisters
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Leopold did say it was probably premature aging though. But if it wasn't, maybe it was the same thing Jack, Helena, Jesse, and maybe others experience? Stress mixed with the side effect of their immense (it being gone quickly).
Thank you for your theory, anon!! I miss doing posts like this haha.
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the-backwards-eel · 1 year
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WAITTTTT…WHAT IF SINCE LEELATHAE CHANGED HER MIND ABOUT LEAVING JACK THEY WENT BACK TO THE PASTEL KINGDOM AND JACKS PARENTS SEEING THAT THEY WERE STILL TOGETHER DECIDED THAT IF LEELATHAE WOULDNT LEAVE HIM THE ONLY WAY FOR HER TO BE GONE FROM HIS LIFE WAS TO POISON HER…???
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alexandersimpleton · 8 months
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So, I get the theories about this have kinda tapered off, but I still wanna throw my hat into the ring so I get to say that i called if I end up beong right.
So, everyone is saying that Leland might be the serpent in Frederick's dream, but I think it's one of two possibilities. Either it's Blaine, or one of Frederick's bullies.
They would both make thematic sense. For his bullies, they're the source of all his trauma. He looks at everything with fear because of them, he never gets enough sleep because of nightmares about them, he has to escape the memories with books because of them, he can't even look at sunflowers, the flowers thay represent happiness and optimism, the flowers that he should gaze at with a smile and take as a sigh for better times, without having flashbacks of them. Those bullies didn't just ruin his life at school, they ruined his life for all that trauma and pain to culminate in this undefeatable, castle size serpent would make sense.
And the other option, Blaine. Sure, Frederick's father kind of put pressure on him and threatened to stab him, but Leland hardly ever even interacts with Frederick, and when he does he doesn't take him too seriously. The one actively abusing him is Blaine. Blaine is the one that regularly beats Frederick. Blaine is the one that treats him like bug. Blaine is the one that gaslights him into a spiral of self depreciation and guilt. Blaine is the one who's calls him a loser in the dungeon. Blaine is his abuser, not Leland. The force taking control of his life, and worming it's way into his very sanity. The force that's even infected the CPC, making them refuse to save him. Blaine being the serpent that wants to eat everything would make sense.
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im-doing-good · 4 months
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My prediction for how Cursed Princess Club is going to end
There have been plenty of callbacks to previous scenes and one scene I am semi-confident will show up is this part of episode 77- Gwen's Portrait
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This scene would be them hanging up Lilith's portrait
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Probably fixing parts of the Pastel Palace since it's super beat up. This can also be related to what Isolde might be doing.
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Maybe planning a wedding? Nell and Jolie's or Gwen and Fredrick's (the last one might happen after a noticeable time skip)
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I'm thinking continuing Blaine's redemption arc since there's not much time to fully flesh it out. Also parallels to Whitney.
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And then something happens a week later idk
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deldeldel90 · 6 months
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AAAAAA!!! MARIA AND BECKETT MEETING??? I'm so ready for this!!! these two HAVE MY HEART.
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