#dee sinks in a bog

[charmac]

[sillyfreaktime]

ik how I’m celebrating 🤭🤩

Damn, missed it again

[margle]

the bowling episode & cat in the wall meta (deetress)

I think bowling is a turning point for dee. we got an insight into her mind and how significantly dennis affects her. importantly, she managed to defeat him. but rather than her victory being centred, as it previously would be, on her relationship with the gang, when she turns around, they arent there. she is unable to define her victory by their response. obviously this is painful for her, but it also demonstrates that she can now win without the gang's support. only the waitress was still there for her. the waitress, imo, represents a new path for dee. not away from the gang, because obviously that will never happen, but someone to rely on. her equivalent to mac and dennis or charlie and frank.

in mac and dennis break up, dee is shown to be the only member of the gang without someone to rely on. and so the episode about 'twosomes' and frienship ends with her alone, stuck in the wall. I think dee has been 'stuck in the wall' for a long, long time. obviously she is friends with the gang. but, charlie for example, can take being badly treated by mac for an episode and be fine because he has frank to rely on. even though mac and dennis have a more rocky relationship, they have never permanently left each other. in comparison, dee is badly treated by them but has no one to back her up. this must hurt for her because dennis is her twin, the one person who should be always on her side. and he is, in a way, but she must also battle against him. this season expanded upon her and frank's relationship, but he will always prefer charlie to her - the only one he thinks of as his child.

therefore dee is stuck in an odd group. she is 'stuck in the wall'. I think the waitress could be the only one to save her and get her out of the wall. the waitress, despite calling her ugly, stood up for dee against dennis. she chose dee against the man she once would do anything for. in that moment, dee had someone to rely on. the waitress also, similarly to the ireland episodes, represented her foil. she effortlessly stood up to dennis, whereas dee couldn't. she bested him physically (he literally broke his hand, numbers dont count) whereas dee couldn't. the waitress, perhaps, represents what dee needs most.

the reason they can start a new relationship as a (potential) 'twosome' is because the episode also marks a turning point for the waitress. the shift of her character from charlie's love interest/victim to dee's foil started in the ireland episodes. she manages to get the acting gig, pulls dee out of the bog and then sinks in her place, essentially unwillingly sacrificing herself for dee. their relationship was still harmful in the ireland episodes - they were taking from each other. but their mutuality was imo cemented in the bowling episode.

charlie is intentionally written as distracted and uninterested during his matches with the waitress. he talks to her casually, bothers her a bit but benignly, and runs off as soon as he can in order to do something else off screen. he now has his own life, off screen, away from her. in the same way she always had her own life separate from him. they are finally equal. I think this shows how the waitress isnt a significant part of charlie's life anymore.

on a meta level, the waitress is present in the episode because of her plot with dee, not because of a plot point with charlie. she is also willingly there and organised it herself, rather than being stalked or kidnapped or randomly showing up in ireland as if her life centres around the gang (which we know is not true). more importantly, if the gang hadnt intervened, dee would have spent time with the waitress without them. they have carved a space away from the gang together (even though dee was pushy about it). their relationship doesn't only exist within the context of charlie anymore.

the waitress has flourished with this change. she doesnt drink throughout the episode, has the funds to organise a bowling team, has friends, is making bowling shirts and is clearly working out (the kick). she is miles apart from where she was during charlie and dee find love.

bowling is proof that the waitress doesnt have to be stuck in her cycle of sobriety and addiction. she has successfully severed herself from charlie. charlie, along with her drinking, was a product of the stagnancy present in all sitcoms. no matter what happened in an episode, he would always keep stalking her and she would always start drinking again. but iasip has proved that its characters can transform (mfhp). and so I think her friendship with dee could be proof of a new direction for her. similarly, dee has been stagnant and 'stuck in the wall' since the show's beginning. she hasn't had anyone to pull her out. but the waitress, by standing up for her against dennis, is proof that this can change for her. dee can look outside of the gang, and have someone to rely on.

they can free each other.

[barkingdog]

Dee sinks in a bog

[taraxippos]

This comment on the The Waitress scenes from 'Dee Sinks In A Bog' is killing me like, Dee and the Waitress tormenting each other in a swamp is one of the few shining lights in the darkness that is season 15 for me. Why do you want them to spend their time talking about Charlie instead of torturing each other in a bog? Why do you hate true love? :/

[billpottsismygf]

I'm so interested in the way The Waitress' role in the show has changed. Ever since she and Charlie slept together at the end of s12, their dynamic and her role completely changed.

Since Charlie stopped stalking her, we've had: - Her pursuing Charlie and then them breaking up (The Gang Makes Paddy's Great Again) - Flashbacks of them together (Charlie's Home Alone/The Gang Wins the Big Game) - Imaginary scenarios (The Gang Does a Clip Show) - Scenarios of dubious reality (The Janitor Always Mops Twice) - Her interacting with members of the gang who aren't Charlie (The Gang Beats Boggs: Ladies Reboot/The Gang Goes to Ireland/Dee Sinks in a Bog/The Gang Carries a Corpse Up a Mountain)

Since they stopped trying to have a baby together, we haven't had an interaction between The Waitress and Charlie that took place in clear reality, and I’m just so interested in what that might look like.

The promotional material for The Gang Goes Bowling makes it look like they will be in the same room (for the first time in sequence and in reality since they broke up in 13x01), so we shall see!

[cutemeat]

dee’s banshee screams following the same pattern as the Psycho theme in Sinks in a Bog is like SOOO sexy

[lostandbackagain]

the always sunny ireland trip is the greatest run in the show's history. dennis pretending he doesnt have covid. dutch mac. "dee sinks in a bog." the pedophile priest. frank giving charlie's dad covid and killing him. charlie thinking a banshee curse has the same symptoms as covid. "your mom does not like you, dude." natural redhead stink. dropping the corpse off the mountain. brainstorming exsanguinating and chopping up the corpse to make it easier to carry back up. dee's incredible game and equal and opposite luck. charlie's heartbreaking speech in the rain about being abandoned by his dad. the piss bottle.

[jerseybumpkin]

iasip 15x07: dee sinks in a bog + nimrod’s son by the pixies

[juniperhillpatient]

you (boring): gross out humor is so juvenile

me (fun): *laughing so hard I started coughing & accidentally scared my cat off my lap at a poop joke scene I’ve seen so many times I probably have it memorized*

[opanowane]

okay well, that’s not a bad ranking. I actually respect it, except for The gang breaks Dee being the best from s9 (it’s easily one of the worst episodes from that season)

heres mine:

Charlie has cancer

The gang runs for office

Dennis and Dee’s mom is dead // gang gets whacked 1

Paddy’s pub, the worst bar in Philadelphia

Gang gives Frank an intervention

Gang gets stranded in the woods

Gang gets trapped

Charlie’s mom has cancer

Gang squashes their beef

Frank retires// gang spies like North Korea 

Trial of the century

hero or hate crime

times up for the gang

Paddy’s has a jumper

Dee sinks in a bog

Gang gets cursed

@opanowane I couldn't decide on a top 5, or even a top 10, so I just did my favorite episode from each season.

Charlie Has Cancer Charlie Goes America All Over Everybody's Ass Dennis Looks Like a Registered Sex Offender The Gang Solves the Gas Crisis The Gang Reignites the Rivalry Who Got Dee Pregnant? The Gang Gets Trapped Reynolds vs. Reynolds: The Cereal Defense The Gang Broke Dee Mac Kills His Dad McPoyle vs. Ponderosa: The Trial of the Century Hero or Hate Crime? Time's Up for the Gang The Gang Solves Global Warming The Gang Replaces Dee With a Monkey The Gang Gets Cursed

[prettysymbiosis]

the waitress super randomly being the one to encounter dee in the bog really makes me think that scene was saying something about the general role of the female characters in sunny. like there's already the whole commentary on the family never treating women fairly and perceiving the ones they actively refuse to support or communicate with as shrieking monsters that come back to haunt them. but metaphorically the bog scene is framing dee as completely stuck in her situation and only sinking deeper in (her being constantly shit on by the gang and having no clear way out of that) and then the one other significant woman in the show appears as a chance to help dee get free (through forming a mutually beneficial relationship that isn't self destructive or alienating).

it was excellent how they had the waitress force dee to recognize her personhood by saying her name, thereby serving as a mirror for dee and the general dehumanization/sidelining women have experienced throughout the show. and when the waitress finally makes the effort to help dee, dee just perpetuates the shitty dynamic and uses the opportunity to keep another woman down to better her own situation. and all this is after the waitress happened to get dee's role on the tv show without even trying, because the waitress isn't constantly trying to overcompensate for everything because she doesn't have a group of men constantly belittling and overlooking her. she's been screwed over by the gang plenty of times, but she's not in the gang. she's free in a way dee isn't, and it's so interesting how they used this scene to explore that.

I'm not sure what else might come of all this but it definitely felt to me like the show acknowledging the hole it's dug for its female characters and how hard it is now to for them to climb out of it.

[trashfirefamilyphotos]

As much as Mac with a boyfriend would be nice, Gus makes me realize how much I wanna see Mac with some fellow gays as pals.

[itsyaboi-ray]

Guys I have so many thoughts and predictions and hopes for Dee Sinks In A Bog that I made a bingo with all of them I could think of (mostly taking from the trailers, episode leaks, episode description, and other people’s predictions)

[billpottsismygf]

"Was that okay to do?"