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at the end of the day i just think it's more fun to clown over dumb quotes in articles and get excited and hopeful about a ship that i love *maybe* becoming canon, than assume that there is No Hope for anything and bum myself out constantly by being angry that something *isn't* canon or endgame or spend my free time posting about a show that i don't even like very much or take no excitement or joy from anymore because not only would it make me more bitter and angry but it makes everyone else mad too and what is the point in that.
#discourse probably#anyway#if you think it's dumb and stupid to get a little to hype about silly little articles#or to clown a bit over a pairing maybe becoming canon#that's fine but i will let you see me as dumb and stupid ig#because i'm not gonna have less fun in my own space to please anyone
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I just found out that Jocat went away?? He's been gone for like 6 months cause he got a bunch of hate for his I Like Girls animation??
I'm genuinely sad about this. I didn't watch a lot of his content (obviously, I'm like 6 months late) but he seemed to be genuinely a very sweet and caring guy who unabashedly loved what he loved and who wasnt afraid to be himself online. Just consistently a very kind and genuine person.
I'll never understand people who see this and their first reaction is "yes. I think this person deserves to be exposed to the worst of humanity. He deserves cruelty." Just absolutely inhuman behaviour.
I completely support his decision and I wish him all the best. I hope he can find a way to do what he loves while being happy and safe, regardless of whether or not he decides to upload it
#jocat#discourse probably#his consistent trans positivity really helped me after I had just come out#genuinely wish him nothing but the best
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Oh ew why are we doing blog award type shit again, didn't we outgrow this nonsense?
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Okay
If were doing queerplatonic couple can we also do romantic friendships? I'm not talking sex, im not talking a relationship.
Being friends who are romantically involved
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oh before i forget, here's the design i did for luiz (male lois lane). i might do other characters like jimmy and perry white and luthor and zod. let me know if you’d like to see them get their genders bent.
anyways yeah, enjoy this twink, i'm gonna go get a burger.
#personal#wip#superman#superwoman#my art#character design#fanart#“i want that twink OBLITERATED” - general zod probably#is the term genderbend no good anymore btw#I remember seeing discourse about it years ago but idk
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warhammer 40k loves to call itself a satire of fascism and then depicts a universe in which all of the great fascistic anxieties and beliefs of its imperium (the enemy is everywhere, it is both weak and strong, we are eternal, any violence we commit is justified, our leader is our genetic superior, degeneracy will lead to the collapse of our society) are all objectively true, completely blunting any satirical edge it could have, but giving it just enough plausible deniability that games workshop can market to anyone of any ideology
#discourse#warhammer 40k#and like i say this as someone who LIKES warhammer 40k#a functional satire probably shouldnt present the people its satirizing as objectively correct given their circumstances
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You allow yourself a moment to indulge in the fantasy of yourself as their chosen companion—their trusted right hand when their own fails them—before the sheer laughable impossibility of anyone finding comfort in such reliance on you clamours and shoves its way to the forefront of reasons why that can never be. You understand this. You truly do. It’s only that—
sketched some scenes from my fic
+ better quality under the cut:
#🐉#sacrosanct#eiars#VALshrue#<- AROMANTIC‼️#the silt verses#<- jon ware and muna hussen forgive me. and the rest of you i guess if youre not here for it just keep scrolling.#jart#i did start trying to colour these but it didnt really enhance them at all. so monochrome on pale grey void it is.#they all look slightly different due to being drawn at different points in the past. oh god has it been 3 months. and its making me twitch.#but its fine 👍#i just really hope no one looks at VALs acne and thinks im trying to make her look like a teenager#idgaf about problematic age gap discourse but that is an adult 1 year old saint with adult acne#anyway this is probably the last time im going to draw them in a happier situation than their canon fate for a while so savour it ig
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Meta Monday: Your favorite fic author is probably over 30.
In 2017, Tumblr user Xochiquetzl posted an essay in response to discourse about adults in fandom, discussing ageism in fandom and explaining why “your favourite fic author is probably over 30”.
The essay seemed to strike a chord with fans and inspired many to share their own positive stories about their experiences with older fans and the fanworks they created.
Are you curious about this essay? Read more on Fanlore!
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#fanlore#your favorite fic author is probably over 30#ageism in fandom#age discourse#meta essay#fandom meta#meta monday#graphic by hheyhalley#text by castille
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not to be radical or whatever, but i think that maybe calling women and queer people “pedophiles” for fanfiction is actually not the activism you think it is
#it’s almost like words have meaning#and that’s not what that means#and you’re probably harming abuse survivors#instead of protecting actual kids#tw discourse#the last of us#sebaciel#pro ship#proship#pro fiction
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Like okay fine whatever- everyone is entitled to headcanon whatever they want-
But for THE largest updates account in this fandom to actively erase a gay man from their Pride post and then proceed to dedicate an entire post towards a STRAIGHT MAN? That is absolutely insane, tone deaf and a PERFECT example of the homophobia this fandom harbours, and I'm just SO OVER IT.
#Anti Buddie#BuckTommy#911 Discourse#ranting and will probably delete#i am actually so fucking sick of it and this fandom#people pls send me cute buck and tommy gay shit I need to cheer myself up
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There's an old probably apocryphal tale about Lyndon Johnson that was popularized by Hunter S. Thompson which goes like this:
This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas. The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumor campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his own barnyard sows. “Christ, we can’t get a way with calling him a pig-fucker,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.” “I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitch deny it.”
Tumblr keeps making me think of this anecdote. There's a group of users on here who constantly demand if anyone mentions BDSM positively or even neutrally they caveat it by saying they aren't talking about abuse or if a man likes to call his boyfriend daddy they demand he disclaim that he doesn't support incest or if a trans girl likes to wear cat ears she needs to deny that she isn't into bestiality.
The point of this isn't that they actually believe it themselves or even a lot of the time it isn't about convincing other people that it's true but just to tar people by creating the association between two unrelated things by demanding that people constantly deny it.
#god I told myself when I started on tumblr again I wouldn't discourse#this is probably my clearest failure on that count yet#discourse cw i guess
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mcyt nostalgic webweave with the caption "time passes... but some things stay the same" and it's just a collection of all the times ranboo's fanbase has made discourse about absolutely nothing and made ranboo apologize like they killed all the trees on earth personally and there's sparkles and flowers edited over all the screenshots for the aesthetic
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no guys you dont get it. [harmless identity] is invading [community] and causing [mass societal / systemic issues]. lets attack [people fighting alongside us] because that will solve [systemic issues]. no guys its not infighting because [good faith identity] is a hostile invasion of [community they have been included in]. no guys im right this time i promise
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Alright, so. I've got little time and some ideas, so I'll do a brief thought process on the death of Sherlock Holmes in 1893, and the fandom as a whole.
Firstly, getting this out of the way. Sherlock Holmes was not the first modern fandom. That honor most likely goes to Charles Dickens and his work, especially the Pickwick Papers. There is evidence and record that fan merchandise, like joke books, tobacco, and shoe horns, were made with Pickwick Papers characters, especially Sam Weller.
However, Sherlock Holmes is probably our first instance of a global fandom where consequences quite literally created a literary and cultural firestorm. This isn't an exaggeration.
ACD's relationship with Holmes is... strange. Of course, he wanted to kill off Holmes, and move onto other books. (Historical novels, mainly, or Spiritualist manifesto), but there was always a love hate relationship, and we see that most predominantly through fan letters.
Almost immediately after Holmes’s death in 1893, there was shock. Scandal. Mourning. Fans exchanged letters in newspapers, trying to reach out to other fans to figure out what just happened, and what to do next. Holmes was dead. And for all anyone knew, so was the series.
So how'd they cope?
By creating communities. Discourse communities, to be more apt. They exchanged letters, asked questions, and talked through newspapers. Each one plucked from 1893 and 1894 show grief and confusion: for a fictional character.
People even started seeking out Joseph Bell, the man who inspired Holmes, in order to try to fill the void. There's even record of fans venturing to Reichenbach Falls in costume to pay tribute to their fallen hero. And this kept happening. For years. The world lost not just a character, it was their friend.
Keep in mind! Victorian literature was a family affair. Many people would gather around and read stories and books together, so the firestorm went further.
Until, it made ACD change his mind, and bring back Sherlock Holmes. (Can we call it bullying? Perhaps. I call it a unique circumstance of cultural phenomena.)
So where does it leave the fandom?
Ah, that's the question. This fandom, uniquely, has a distinct honor of being one of the oldest living discourse communities, an exchange of reader response, engagement, and including even more material.
So to the fans: from the fanfic writers, to the game makers, to the cosplayers, to the fans of adaptations near and far, to the editors, to the artists, to the dreamers and thinkers...
It is, given the nature of the fandom, that you are all a part of history, as part of one of the oldest(and still going!) Fandom discourse communities.
Keep that in mind. And keep going. 🙂
#sherlock holmes#acd canon#acd holmes#acd watson#granada sherlock#granada watson#the sherlock holmes fandom is REALLY old#But you are also part of probably the oldest living fan discourse community#and i think thats beautiful#Idk if I can tag all the adaptation fandoms but#Here is a few#bbc sherlock#sherlock and co#soviet sherlock holmes#basil rathbone sherlock holmes#peter cushing sherlock holmes#the great mouse detective#moriarty the patriot#granada sherlock holmes#enola holmes#to everyone else i didn't tag#You apply here too.#You are a part of history.
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Sometimes I wonder what Jiang Cheng could've become if his parents didn't instill a mix of "crippling fear of failure" and "impossibly high standards" in him. Cuz like, his dad was holding him to the vague standard of being as good as wwx, his mom yelling at him whenever he goofed around like wwx, and then both of them expressed disappointment when he's less successful than wwx. The thing both of them seem to ignore though is that wwx got where he is entirely because he had the freedom to fuck around and find out- he trained tirelessly because he made training fun for himself, he was innovative as a cultivators because he experimented and persisted through failures, and he was able to act in line with the Jiang clan moto because his actions had less political pull than members of the main family. Jiang Cheng on the other hand- if he fucked around he got told to "stop stooping to the level of servants." If his achievements were lesser than wwx's, he got either dismissed by his dad or yelled at by his mom to try harder. And if he picked fights with the Wens, they'd have an excuse to destroy his clan. Like ya- no shit that'd create an adult who's terrified of failure.
The kite game serves as such a good metaphor/embodiment of this set back- with Jiang Cheng never being able to shoot as far as Wei Wuxian because he pulls back and shoots closer the second he misses.
And its sad too because he's shown to be pretty brilliant when he's in "fuck it, we ball" mode. Like, when he's not freezing up, he manages to pull off things like rebuilding his entire clan from the ground up, leading armies and taking back territories from the Wens, and I'm fairly sure he's the only character we see counter the Lan music cultivation techniques (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that last one. Also feel free to add any of the other cool shit he did that I'm blanking on at the moment, cuz I know I'm forgetting something).
That being said- even with his anxiety, he's still one of the top cultivators. Imagine what a force of nature he'd be if he could sustain "fuck it we ball" mode
#jiang cheng#jiang fengmian critical#madam yu critical#jiang cheng positive#<- there. its tagged properly so you better not @ me antis#mdzs meta#mdzs#long post#jiang cheng would've been too powerful so his parents decided to nerf him#unfortunate i had this thought around the same time as the discourse is happening and I'm probably inviting trouble with this but eh-#maybe I'll get lucky and the antis will leave me alone#I'm being critical of Madam Yu here but this is NOT a Madam Yu hate blog#I will block depending on how far “criticism” of her goes#apparently I need to add in this edit too- THIS IS NOT A WWX BASHING POST. I WILL BE DELETING ANY COMMENTS WITH WWX BASHING IN THEM
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#when everything you do is for the benefit of others and it turns out it wasn't even benefiting them <3#911edit#911 abc#911#eddiediazedit#eddie diaz#shannon diaz#christopher diaz#buddie#my edit#hanna.gif#people are probably gonna end up misinterpreting this post but people will create discourse over anything so whatever. i know what i mean
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