#effective bash

[anneapocalypse]

I'm sure it's been said a million times already but the thing that drives me up the wall about the whole "AsHlEy Is SpAcE rAcIsT!1!" thing is that in Mass Effect humans are not the dominant species in the galactic community. They have little structural power in the beginning, and structural power actually matters like... a lot, when you're going to talk about an in-universe prejudice as racism. I feel like people are so used to scifi/fantasy settings where humans are the ones with power over others that they behave as though this is the case even when the worldbuilding is very explicit about how it isn't here. Asari, turians, and salarians are the ones with the sociopolitical power. Not humans. Humans have zero representation on the Council in ME1. Humans are relative newcomers to the galactic community, and their first contact with other species was turians firing on them without warning or negotiation for trying to reactivate a mass relay (which they had no idea was against Citadel law because they had no idea the Citadel or the Council existed), forcing the Council to step in and negotiate peace before more lives were lost. Ashley's concern is about allowing access to cutting edge Alliance military tech to people who within living memory would have been considered enemy combatants, because again, turian forces attacked an unknown alien race on sight with no warning and no attempt to negotiate, and in spite of this it's humanity that gained a reputation as aggressive. Funny how that works, right--it works because turians are the ones with structural power in this setting, not humans.

And that's all before we even get into how Ashley grows and changes if you let her live to see ME3. This is all just where we are at the start.

[liedownquisition]

Jason Todd's timeline and "Age"

So, there's a lot of discussion of Jason Todd's age esp as relative to other sidekick vigilantes, particularly Tim and Mia. I believe the exact words are usually something about a "grown ass man beating up/trying to kill teenagers."

DISCLAIMER: This particular post is specifically regarding the "grown ass man vs teenagers" statement, I have posts regarding the "tried to kill them" portion and other stuff like "seriously Jason Todd is like being shot by a marshmallow gun compared to what goes on directly before and after him in these incidents, also you don't bitch about the right stuff, also a lot of you prop up characters who are Objectively Worse, and no that's not hate on your fave it's just me calling out hypocrisy". It just takes time to find digital copies of the panels I'm using. NOTE I AM NOT JUSTIFYING HIS ACTIONS. I'm just saying y'all blow it out of proportion for petty character hate. Like, shit, they're superheroes. Jason's soooo fuckin' tame. He's not even framed as a big deal to the teens it's only the adults that think it's that much of a problem.

Courtesy readmore post cut:

Now, to start off, we all know Jason died at 15 & a few months off from 16 (if you want me to dig up panels, sure, but I figured at this point that wasn't in question). Tim at this point is somewhere between 12-13, and we have this panel in Lonely Place of Dying which takes place a few months later:

So that's a ballpark of 2-3 years between Jason and Tim.

But Tim's age is really fucky and they keep de-aging him tbh. We can extrapolate that his confrontation with Jason was between the ages of 16-17 bcs it's after the arc where he has his incredibly shitty 16th birthday in Robin Vol2 #116 and before Red Robin where he's stated to be 17. This would put Jason between 18-19 at the time. (If you really want me to find panel sources for Tim's birthday and his age in RR then, sure, but I don't think they're necessary. I used it more as a guidepost for Jason's age, since we have a clear idea of what the age gap is.)

At least, on paper.

Mia for her part I've had a hard time finding like, on panel mentions of her age and if anyone can direct me to it being explicitly stated I'd love that. I'm rereading old comics but it's a LOT of comics to hunt down & dig through. To my understanding she was fifteen when Ollie first met her, and there's at Minimum of about a year and a half between that to her meeting Red Hood, more likely at least two? because there's at least few months between that and her joining the Titans, the Doctor Light stuff, then One Year Later, and then returned to Star some 3 months after Ollie came back to run for mayor? And then Jason not too long after. So, two years feels safe. Puts her at 17-ish, Jason at 19-20

Once again, I specify: on paper.

People would happily point out at this point that the upward stretch of a 4 year age gap is a "huge gap in maturity." And yeah, under normal circumstances, I'd agree.

But, and this is going to get contradictory bcs I found Two different timelines (BOTH written by Winick, lmao), and depending on how you read it it could be up to three different possibilities. Let's Start with Batman Annual #25: Daedalus & Icarus.

Timestamp before Jason's resurrection, which is pretty well known at this point:

Next, him waking up from a coma afterwards, when he escapes the hospital:

Now the above could be interpreted as either 1 year after he died if we're assuming that it's using the same "start" point to count as the resurrection (unlikely), or one year after he came back (more likely).

Next, the timestamp right before a guy recognizes him and sells him out:

And, finally, the timestamp before being put in the Pit:

That is, count it up, between 3-3 1/2 years where Jason was dead, in a coma, or otherwise not particularly... cognizant of the world around him. His ass is NOT developing emotionally, socially, or mentally like this, which pretty handily bridges the gaps there. Taken at face value, Jason's maturity level is going to be, unironically, younger than Tim's in the wake of these setbacks.

Now, if we go to Lost Days issue 1, it doesn't specify how long he was dead, nor how long he was in a coma, so we'll just carry those two over, what we DO have is this from just after Talia brought him home:

This puts him as being on the streets for five months, so we're at just shy of two years so far. And then we have this:

Which is right before Talia puts him in the Pit.

So, in summary: 6 months dead, 1 year coma, 5 months on the street, and something like 1-1 1/2 years with the League which...

Actually puts us on almost the exact same timeframe either way. 3 to 3 1/2 years. It just changes whether Jason was on the streets or with the League for longer.

And is utterly incomprehensible because comic timelines are a freaking nightmare.

If we're being generous, then that would put Jason at a minimum of 19, maybe toeing the line of 20 for UTRH, again, on paper, because like hell are you convincing me he did less than a year's worth of training abroad throughout Lost Days. Yeah maybe they trained him in fighting while he was catatonic, muscle memory and all that. But the other teachers that we KNOW of? The bombs, guns, probably something to get him up to date on handling all that tech we see him using, Egon, potentially arguably All-Caste if you want to draw from n52...

but you'd have to knock at least a year and a half off of his internal/personal development from death & coma, at minimum. Maybe you could argue he was somewhat developing while in his "the lights are on, but nobody's home" phase, you can't say it's at the same level as a normal person might when going about their day to day life, and it's difficult to measure. But he's not hitting the kind of milestones that he should be for his age. I wouldn't put him at anything less than two years behind. So if we use our upper estimates on Jason, and lower estimates on both the developmental setbacks and Tim/Mia's ages that gives us:

Jason toeing 20, mentally 18, fighting Tim at 16. 2 year gap, kind of stretching the physical age gap if we assume Tim had just barely turned 13 when he showed up to be Robin. - OR LESS

Jason maybe 21, mentally 19, fighting Mia at 17, two year age gap again. Honestly, still not that big of a difference - OR LESS

And, to be frank, that's not even counting the mental development issues that come from the intense physical trauma from dying - and I swear to fuck don't give me the "He's not the only one who died he's not special" speech.

HOW MANY OF THE OTHERS YOU'RE USING AS A GOTCHA LOST, *GESTURING AGGRESSIVELY ABOVE*, LITERALLY MULTIPLE YEARS OF THEIR LIFE.

Not counting adults, of course. Barry lost years, Hal lost years, Ollie I think also lost a couple years? but A) they came back still adults, bodies pretty much the same. B) While Jason's body didn't go through a magic growth spurt in canon, it did still grow esp while with the League.

I'll eventually get around to Titan's Tower & GA#72 (tbh, there are other people who've already done Titan's Tower and it'd probably be better than what I do, so I'm more going to focus on the latter, but there IS a specific part of the former that drives me nuts that I don't see brought up a lot), and maybe if we're feeling spicy all my issues with UTRH starting with how Winick is just as guilty of retroactively writing Jason as being inherently a bad penny since his Robin days as any of the other "modern" writers. Like, bud, Severe enough Head Trauma is legitimately enough to change someone's personality, not to mention trauma. It wouldn't hurt your narrative for that eerie difference, the Shade of What Once Was if you're really going for RH being Like that.

Final addition: I swear to god if you use my post to start up some kind of petty-ass ship war or flame other characters I will immediately turn off reblogs and replies I am Not Dealing With That Shit, please and thank you.

Anyways, @glitter-stained, your interest made me decide to actually put the work in now to pull it up rather than passively gather stuff to dump whenever discourse pushes me over the edge so, here ya are. Looks like you did have it closer on the mark than I did.

[victusinveritas]

[toxifoxx]

somethin

[paxbe]

eeeeh idk how i feel about the murderbot tv adaptation guys, it's just not hitting right for me.

i will continue to give it the benefit of the doubt and see where they take the rest of the season but i feel like the showrunners have made a weird choice to make the whole vibe more silly and low stakes and as a result every character, including murderbot, comes across like incredibly incompetent and kind of pathetic?

i've seen some discussion about whether you think the show's versions of the characters are 'cringe' as being some kind of litmus test. but to me i think the way the show itself frames its characterisations of the characters is what's adding the cringe factor.

instead of having a bunch of great characters who have different perspectives and backgrounds and motivations etc. that audience can see parts of themselves in but also that drive the plot forward and tell us more about the world they're in, it feels like the show has stripped all the characters down to caricatures or quirks and then makes them seem almost apologetic about it? like all the time? kind of like the characters themselves are embarrassed and the point is that we're supposed to laugh at them for being weird. which i guess there is some element of that in the book, but it was usually always at murderbot's expense and instead in the show it feels weirdly mean spirited.

idk i feel like somehow i'm being made fun of as someone who loved the books and liked that the characters are all really different and sometimes that was beneficial and sometimes that's a challenge but all the time that's just how they are and the narrative didn't apologise for it and that's the whole point, y'know?

[kingprinceleo]

Fun writing experiences include!

• New fun plot point!

• New fun plot point creates a plot hole so catastrophic you have to fundamentally restructure parts of the story

[stygeanbluebasilsprout]

THE WORLD’S AN OYSTER ON AN APPETISER PLATE

[akemiluvr]

Posting

My friend suggested that I start posting on Tumblr in order to make more friends.... so if there's anybody who want to be moots and is also into The Hobbit, LOTR, Good Omens, Our Flag Means Death, Hannibal, What We do in the Shadows, Blue Eye Samuri, Percy Jackson, Harry Potter, Hamilton or literally is just willing to be moots. Give me a follow and I will follow you back! <3

[sentientsky]

apparently there are ppl who have watched everything, everywhere, all at once and DIDN’T have it fundamentally alter them???? and it didn’t leave them a wreck of emotion? i didn’t know that was a thing lmao

[tricksh0t]

como que Diego Luna es Manolo en Book of Life; como que he visto este man desde que yo era niño 😵‍💫 es la misma vaina con Pedro Pascal que tu sabes el meme donde el esta llorando tambien popular en mi childhood

Anyway to those of you who don't speak Spanish (to make this post actually mean something to you) Cassian Andor fic on its way it's just long af to me

read the tags for a rant 😁

[liggy-not-potter]

daily reminder that procrastination gets you fucking nowhere except mental hell and it’s not fun here

[xillionart]

青春はどどめ色 (Youth is the colour of bruise)

[dutifullythoughtfulrebel]

Guinevere notices many things. Her romance with Lancelot, has made her attentive to other similar fruits, ripened or unripened, licit or illicit.

Sir Kay, that sweet Seneschal, believes he loves her, but Guinevere knows that he loves some ideal of her, not her truly, though his envy of Lance can be amusing.

Sir Kay spends his scant leisure hours trading insults with Mordred and thinks it time well-spent.

She has seen how his eyes flicker to Mordred's lips during feasts and to his hands during their occasional bouts.

He tells Mordred "Damn your bones" and goes to follow after him anyway.

He bothers to look at Mordred when there are importune jest about him.

[martyrbat]

hm hm hm i feel like this will be really interesting to read with the knowledge of korra and how that effected her instead.... because korra (from my limited knowledge so i could be talking out my ass here) knew she was the avatar at an early age and DID get that community. she had katara and her parents, she had her mentors, she was isolated from the real world during so and perfected the elements other than air (which i kinda recall her struggling with and how its the opposite element of earth so im excited to see if those kinda play out :3) and she was more eager to be the avatar and the excitement and significance it brought (which was a bit clouded by her being sheltered but also would have been expected more before the war impacted things)

i also remember matty saying kyoshi struggled with earth bending (which im super excited to get to and see/see her journey and how it will differ) but!!! i just think its really fun how theyre kinda off the bat setting up this expectation and new grounding for readers who have a past grasp of the avatar universe. even as someone who isnt super familiar with the lore, i know enough to recognize that oh! thats something new!! so just kudos to the writer(s?) for just setting this up to be something very different and in a natural way :3

[stitchwraith-stingers]

currently eating my corn like this

[reallyquitestrange]

announcement!

tomorrow (Nov. 15, 2024) is my Birthday, I will be OLD years old (28 but mentally im still in freshman year of college) I may be popping in and out of existence, but regularly scheduled bullshitery will return on the 16th