#fiore forvedge yggdmillennia

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July 12: Happy Birthday Fiore Forvedge Yggdmillennia (TYPE-MOON)!!!!

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muse tag dump too (1/2)

bc tags have limits apparently -

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From Master to Leader to Servant

An idea for a three part story series involving the Fate series and Code Geass. I doubt anyone would take this up do to the time it would take but you never know. There are a lot of amazing writers just looking for their next idea to write about.

What if there were magus in the Code Geass world? What if Lelouch was a Magus? What if he had participated and survived in a Holy Grail War a year before he starts his campaign against Britannia with the Black Knights? How will his experience and the use of magic besides Geass affect Lelouch’s mission to defeat Britannia? Not to mention, what kind of heroic spirits will he create afterwards?

As I said, this is a three part story series following Lelouch’s exploits as not only Zero, but as a magus as well. I picture Lelouch using a more modern approach to magecraft due to his upbringing.

A couple of examples of this could be

Using alchemy/potion making to create various types of enhanced modern weaponry like grenades, bullets, and a special rifle.

Using Spiritual Evocation magecraft similar to Fiore Forvedge Yggdmillennia where he has animal spirits inserted into various machinery.

The first part focuses on Lelouch’s (or an oc if that’s your thing) experience in a Holy Grail War with his servant. His servant could be someone like Mordred, Iskandar, Lancelot, Oda Nobunaga, Chiron, Nagao Kagetora, Odysseus, Hassan of the Hundred Faces, and Lu Bu Fengxian. We get to see how being in the war affects his choices in the future after experiencing the heroes of old.

The second part then moves on to his campaign against Britannia with the Black Knights and the new challenges he faces with the addition of magecraft and the other magus. Especially the other magus since they pride themselves on secrecy and will eliminate they think may risk the secrecy. It could be interesting if we see him be able to mix knightmares with his magecraft.

The third part is a sort of it all comes together ending where Lelouch is summoned as a heroic spirit for another Holy Grail War. I have two ideas for what he becomes as a servant.

Zero as a saber-class servant

Caster-class servant “Demon Emperor” Lelouch

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new character tags ( blorbos first ) ^-^

📖  *  guinevere pendragon.   ‣  queen of camelot.

📖  *  cassandra of troy.   ‣  princess prophetess.

📖  *  helen of sparta.   ‣  the most beautiful woman.

📖  *  maid marian / william scarlet.   ‣  lady of the merry men.

📖  *  saito momoka.   ‣  wisteria & peaches.

📖  *  yuuki cupid saito.   ‣  last hope of humanity.

📖  *  percival.   ‣  the dove knight.

📖  *  gawain.   ‣  knight of the sun.

📖  *  agravain.   ‣  knight of iron.

📖  *  sieg.   ‣  balmung's heir.

📖  *  siegfried.   ‣  dragon slayer.

📖  *  emiya shirou.   ‣  hero of justice.

📖  *  cú chulainn / sétanta.   ‣  hero of ulster.

📖  *  fiore forvedge.   ‣  yggdmillennia's true talent.

📖  *  jeanne d'arc.   ‣  holy maiden.

📖  *  rama.   ‣  brahmastra.

📖  *  asterios.   ‣  chaos labyrinth.

📖  *  nursery rhyme.   ‣  born of fairytales.

📖  *  bazett fraga mcremitz.   ‣  god's holder.

📖  *  waver velvet / lord el-melloi II.   ‣  cringefail professor.

📖  *  grey.   ‣  grave for you.

📖  *  charlemagne.   ‣  joyeuse ordre.

📖  *  name.   ‣  tag.

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“This is not a formality from my time. Forgive me if I showed poor manners.”    “Not at all...”

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On Reddit, I’m seeing some comments believing the new character from Fate:Lost Einherjar, Remina Eltfrom Yggdmillenia, is actually Fiore in disguise because she calls Caules her “brother”.

Which is just weird to me? Far be it from me to stop people from making fan theories, but this one seems a bit too facile to me. First off, we know mages adopt all the time, meaning not blood related people still see themselves as part of a family. An easy example would be Reines calling Waver her brother. This was, in fact, the whole point of Yggdmillenia, to the point Fiore herself called Darnic her grandfather and Gordes her uncle, despite neither of them actually being related to her. Remina thinking of Caules, the head of what remains the clan, as her “brother” (and I think she says the same of Goredolf) is perfectly normal without her being Fiore in disguise somehow, especially if she is close enough in age to Caules that calling him anything else would be weird.

Second, this would really undermine Fiore’s character for no reason. I dislike her arc for reasons I won’t elaborate here, but her whole arc in Apo is that the magus lifestyle doesn’t suit her and she should leave it behind, which she does by giving Caules her Crest and leaving at the end. We even know where she went: the side story Side of the Survivor tells us she fled to New York, as North America is both where she does her physical rehabilitation and also out of the reach of European mages:

Of course, it was impossible for her to continue living in Europe. So she came to North America, which was despised by the magus world. The Forvege family must have investigated first and foremost Europe, and then the management of Yggdmillennia (more accurately, the former Yggdmillennia), including in Russia. Fiore speculated that North America, which had nothing to do with Forvedge, should be left to the final investigation. Until now, Fiore has moved twice. And no traces that she moved to the United States can be found.

Which makes sense, seeing the shenanigans Faldeus’ group gets up to in Fate/strange Fake and how the Association has little means to stop them, and how FGO mentions in Salem the Association has a very limited presence there.

But the theory would have people believe Fiore’s entire arc and its conclusion got flushed down the toilet for reasons, so she can come back to Europe and participate in a Grail War again. Why? At least when TM writers write about pre-existing characters, they develop those who were really only brief cameos and didn’t have their own works (Urobutchi for FSN’s Kiritsugu, Sakurai for the Fate/Prototype cast, etc.) or they expand on their arcs (Sanda for Waver, Urobutchi for Saber and Kirei, etc.). This would be both a regression and a repetition of what Fiore went through in Apocrypha. And also, you know, people are looking for her to kill her.

And, since I’m mentioning Side of the Survivor, it also outright tells us Fiore can’t do magecraft anymore. So how would she even be a participant at the most basic level, aka provide energy?

Third, Remina is kind of already a reference in herself? Not just her family name, but the fact that she is Scandinavian at all. From Apo volume 1:

The name of the clan is Yggdmillennia. They were magi who in the past came to Romania from Northern Europe.

Remina is very likely a reference to that forgotten backstory bit, the branch which stayed in Scandinavia which might even have been the former main family before Darnic took over. Why would Sakurai then turn around and say that, no, actually she’s just Fiore again. 

And meta wise. Fiore by this point would be 28. But like, most protagonists of Fate and Nasuverse in general, ignoring Capsule Servants and Prisma Illya, trend towards being teens to young adults (14 to 20). It seems very unlikely to me the main Master is going to be a 28 year-old woman. Even Case Files, despite having nearly 30 Waver as its protagonist, is actually narrated by his two 15 years-old acquaintances. It’s not really ageism, it’s just the target demographic Type-Moon is most going for.

I like Fiore a lot, but I just don’t see what would be the point in bringing her back in this situation (though I do not eliminate the possibility she cameos while Remina is still her own character). Waver made sense, because he had ended his coming-of-age and was basically a different character (in fact, him as “Lord El-Melloi II” precedes his appearance as Waver Velvet in Fate/Zero, believe it or not). Remina as she is at least has the potential to bring Yggdmillenia backstory lore. And I’m sure Sakurai would much prefer write her new OC than borrow a character from Higashide.

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Every day I get mad about Fiore's character arc and how Caules is considered more qualified to head the Yggdelmillenia family as if everything "wrong" with Fiore couldn't also apply to him. Chiron's on thin ice and only because he came off as a concerned teacher looking after his master's well-being, not pushing Fiore in any direction but only wanting her to consider her choices. Caules though had some nerve bringing up her dead dog as if he didn't break down over Frankenstein's sacrifice.

Caules could have been the best master character in the series.

Massive. Massive. Massive emphasis on the "could" part.

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Fate/Apocrypha: Fiore Forvedge Yggdmillennia —Aesthetic

Fiore Forvedge Yggdmillennia’s Character & Personality

Fiore speaks with a soft and clear voice. In addition, her sweet smile is infectious to others. She wishes the Grail to heal her legs, but in a way where she can use the full function of her legs while still keeping her Magic Circuits. As a Master, Fiore has some trepidation towards the war, fearing the Mage’s Association as the world’s symbol of magecraft. Additionally, she dislikes conflict. Due to this, Fiore has some distaste for having to fight against the Clock Tower faction, even if she won’t be fighting directly against her friends. However, she’ll fight when necessary out of fear towards Darnic and the chance for victory. Fiore would’ve objected had her desire been impossible, but the Greater Grail grants her confidence. Since she possesses a dream which can’t be granted no matter how much she refines her craft, opposing her friends is only sentimentality which can’t obstruct her from her objective. Thus, Fiore is fully committed for their coming confrontation. She’ll also likely won’t revive her brother if he were to perish.

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This is the Romanian town of Trifas. Seven and seven fight each other, yearning  for the omnipotent vessel, the Holy Grail. It’s a Grail War like none before.

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