#héctor rivera

[pencopanko]

it's them (image ref from crying_anabell on twitter!)

[jaydencoolguy]

I've just been informed that we're back.

[a-little-ray-of-fantasy]

Among my comfort characters, I have traumatized dads who went through a lot for love...

...traumatized science guys who command a certain type of creatures to which they act fatherly to...

...or traumatized goofy dudes who ambiguously manage to be both.

...

I'm sensing a pattern here that's worrying me...

[sysig]

Small skeleton zine I put together as a double-sided print template test (Patreon)

Bonus clean panels under the cut

Front and back cover skeletons

Handplates babies

And terribad dad!

Longboi Jack Skellington - his legs were really fun haha

And the Riveras!

[mirrorofliterature]

the level of lack of understanding of imelda's character really gets me

people act like she banned music just to be a bitch and it's like, no! she was heavily traumatised.

it's not like she really hated music - she hated what music represents, that her husband abandoned her and their daughter.

like people brush over this so much because héctor was actually murdered but imelda didn't know that! it's called dramatic irony!

imelda rivera was abandoned by her husband (again, no knowledge of his death because ernesto wasn't interested in self-sabotage) and became a single mother in 1920s mexico (objectively true). like shit wasn't easy for her and I'm tired of people portraying her as a petty bitch or 'as worse as ernesto'.

careful. your misogyny/racism is showing.

what else could imelda have done? going after ernesto would have 1) not been viable (single parent of a young kid) and 2) very fucking dangerous (murderer and whatnot).

I'm sure she felt guilt after learning the truth, but the whole tragedy for héctor and imelda for me is that they were simultaneously both and neither at fault. héctor had a really shitty best friend and a really shitty after life and imelda felt deeply betrayed.

anyway. stop placing unrealistic expectations on imelda rivera thanks

I get when you see her through the lens of miguel it can be 'easy' to see her as a music hating bitch but she's a deeply traumatised woman with unhealthy coping mechanism who like. learned her lesson and apologised to miguel in a span of the night after almost a century of trauma. she banned music as a surviving mechanism not to spite her (unbeknownst) murdered husband or her music-loving great-great-grandson. she's not omniscient.

anyway imelda rivera rights.

[thepixarau]

Woody: we’re the Pixars. We have absolutely no privacy whatsoever.

Héctor: we’re the Pixars. We have too many dishes and not enough cabinet space.

Remy: we’re the Pixars. We don’t get recognized in public nearly as much as you’d think.

McQueen: we’re the Pixars. We all failed our driver tests the first time.

Jessie: we’re the Pixars. We should not be allowed to do taxes.

Imelda: we’re the Pixars. We all take too long in the bathroom every morning.

Helen: we’re the Pixars. None of us know how to cook without burning the food.

Marlin: we’re the Pixars. Our washing machine’s been broken for a week.

Joy: we’re the Pixars. We’re like one big happy family..the kind that gets together every Christmas except no one ever leaves!

Merida: we’re the Pixars. We have zero fashion sense.

Flik: we’re the Pixars. We each have our own unassigned seat at the table! And if anyone takes it, it’s the end of the world.

Ember: we’re the Pixars. We break things way too easily.

Sulley: we’re the Pixars. We have a dozen cars parked in the driveway.

Sadness: we’re the Pixars. We will fight for literally no reason.

Dory: we’re the Pixars. We love getting letters from fans in the mail!

Ian: we’re the Pixars. We look like adults but technically speaking most of us would only be like 10 years old if we were normal people.

Bob: we’re the Pixars. Our walls are not soundproof.

Joe: we’re the Pixars. We own every single piece of merchandise from every one of our movies ever made.

Atta: we’re the Pixars. When one of us gets sick, it turns into a plague and the rest of us inevitably get sick as well.

Barley: we’re the Pixars. Instead of going to the gym we play Wii Sports.

Wade: we’re the Pixars. We like to criticize each other’s taste in music, for some reason.

Mater: we’re the Pixars. When one of us takes a dump we have to warn everybody not to use the bathroom for twenty minutes.

22: we’re the Pixars. Our game nights are a battle to the death!

Mike: ..we’re the Pixars. Everyone here is exaggerating. Our life is actually very normal.

[juliedrawz]

I saw some old posts where people addressed Héctor's flaws. I got stomach aches reading them because I think they got it totally wrong! I couldn't get it out of my mind, so here I am, putting my salt into the soup!

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First things first, EVERYONE's got flaws! Nobody is perfect. Everyone's done and is doing mistakes. And with Héctor, we need to look very carefully, consider 1. His character and 2. His situation.

Right off the bat, what some see as flaws are actually GOOD character traits merely tending to bring trouble because the world is dark and twisted most of the time! Héctor is one of the most selfless and altruistic characters ever! He'd give everything for those he loves and this immense love also makes him reckless sometimes.

Let's beginn with the first flaw pointed out by others.

"Héctor let himself be persuaded to go on tour with Ernesto. He should have said no."

Yes, Ernesto talked Héctor into his idea, BUT, they were best friends! As close as brothers! Héctor came along because 1. He loved Ernesto and 2. He wanted to provide for his wife and daughter! Even if that meant he had to do something he was slightly uncomfortable with. Ignoring his wants to stay at home, he took the chance! He took the risk. If being away for a while meant more money and hence a better life for his family, he gladly make that jump! It is absolutely selfless but also admireble! Like, that's what a good father does! He couldn't have know how much Ernesto would change during that time, nor that he would eventually snap and get him killed. And Héctor did stand up for himself! He's not a weak, idiot who let's himself get pushed around! Most of the time he's just peace seeking and slow to anger! Which, are RIGHT traits according to God! And to me too! It might get you hurt and some people might take adventage of your kindness but what exactly is bad then? Your kindness, selflessness or those mean people? Aha, see what I'm getting at? Nobody should change their positove traits or harden their hearts just because others are in darkness! It's a whole different thing to draw lines and stand up for yourself. And Héctor does!

"His irresbonsibility"

*big sigh* Ok, there are 2 reasons mentioned to put the stamp irresponsible on Héctor's forehead and it get's me mad!

The thing about him lending things and losing them all! Well, Héctor tried desperatly to cross the flower bridge for decades! He tried everything to cross. Lending himself stuff and noz being able to return them wasn't because he's careless and irresponsible! He just couldn't bring them back! Take a look at his broken bones, his knocked out teeth, his scratches and THINK for a second! All the horrific accidents he must have gotten into. He surely aimed to bring each and every item back but they all got lost or destroyed in the process. And I don't think Héctor made an attempt to cross with it most likely failing at the back of his mind. He just went for it! Remember how he bolted forward once he was through the check? All his mind is focused on is "I need to get to and see my baby!" And before that it was "I need to get to and see my wife and baby!"

If Héctor had the chance to bring the items back, he would have! He wanted to take the Frida costume back but who forbit him to do so? The officer! (Joke's on him though because it'll be Ceci giving him hell later"

He was being irresponsible with Miguel ...

Someone said it would have been easier to just hand over Miguel to the police and have them sort it out! Well, have you seen how Miguel ran from his own family to get his way? He ran from Héctor too once he figured out Miguel had relatives around! Héctor helped Miguel first and foremost because out of desperstion! Miguel was the BIGGEST ticket for him to be able to cross, by letting him bring the photo back. But for Miguel to do so, he had to help him bring him to Ernesto. And that's what Héctor did. He tried hi best to get Miguel to Ernesto as fast as possible. Not to forget, that it was a race of life and death for both.

And Miguel is a kid! And obviously he's acting like one now and then! And Héctor paniced when Miguel ran off. Because he worried for him! If his deal wouldn't work, he would look for another way but Miguel could die! Yes, Héctor might not always make right decissions, but he is giving his best and he always means well! And we also need tp consider his condition! He knows he'll most likely not last the night, yet he still risks that and helps Miguel.

Of course we see Hèctor later on pleading with Miguel one last time that they had a deal but then in the cenote, he caves in. He's getting weaker by the second, the process of him fading has begun. And even through his pain, he is still comforting Miguel.

Him being clumsy and him lying is also often seen as one of his flaws. And while I absolutely agree, that yes, he's a huge clutz and he's both accident prone and sometimes too reckless when it comes to his own health and savety, I wouldn't call his lying a flaw in the classical way. Because, the only times we see Héctor lying in the movie is so he can get as much as a hinge closer to his goal of crossing the bridge. That's how important his daughter is to him! Lying is never good, but he lies out of desperation. (In my book, young Héctor sometimes used his catch phrase "That was a lie! I apologize for it!" as a means of his humor, and, or to calm his opposite. And Héctor is darn humorous!

Now to what I point out in my book, not necessarily flaws but things that get Héctor into trouble often

His kindness

His altruismn, selflessness

Him ignoring his own needs and wants for the wellbeing of others

His clumsiness

His recklessness

His trait to always see the good in people

His stubborness

And while most of those are wonderful character traits, as mentioned above, in a world where such personalities as Hèctor are rare, it's hard to get around.

What do you guy's think?

[captainpluto13]

Coco

do you ever just watch a movie 4 times in 2 weeks (2 times in Spanish 2 times in English)

Genderbent versions because is it really me if I haven’t drawn the boys as girls

Yes I took the time to animate the best scene in the world…

[0ruguitas]

I wish that small subset of the Coco/Encanto fandom here that likes to depict Héctor and Bruno being friends took advantage of the discrepancies between the different kinds of Spanish they spoke bc if y'all knew how many seemingly innocuous words mean something incredibly vulgar in every other form of Spanish EXCEPT Colombian Spanish y'all would lose your minds.

[pencopanko]

I haven't seen anyone do this even when the fanbase was still active

Context:

[jaydencoolguy]

Why must we fight?

…Yes I made this because of the animated movie poll. Putting two bad bitches against each other? Absolutely criminal. They should kiss instead. Cry. Cope. Seethe.

[a-little-ray-of-fantasy]

Hello, just leaving this one here, since I see a lot of similiarities around these two. 939

[bluezey]

Ian: uh, guys? The radio demon guy overheard that we're gonna watch Coco, and he wants to watch with us?

Joy: aww, how nice! See, I told you Alastor is nice!

Alastor: (watching the scene where Héctor is being forgotten and is experiencing his second death while Miguel cries cries over losing Héctor and Coco) 😂

Héctor: (sitting right next to Alastor) you sick mierda! 😡

[mirrorofliterature]

new coco canon divergence idea:

rosita to imelda in the LOTD, circa 1980s: I think you may benefit from therapy, my friends says it really helps!

imelda goes to therapy because she's curious + willing to go along with rosita's suggestion to make her happy.

therapist: so a lot of your issues seem to stem from your husband. maybe talking through these things with him will help?

imelda: no, I'm good :) I don't care about him anymore :) he means nothing to me :) :) ;)

therapist: *looks at music ban* of course, imelda

imelda finally decides to try this out because hey, therapy is a controlled environment and she still has stuffTM to say to héctor because the 1920s Was Not A Good Time for single mothers

therapist, to héctor who has come because reconciling with his wife is #goals: please be civil to each other

imelda: why did you never come back???

[subtext: why did you leave me? why did you leave COCO? were we never enough? these things have haunted imelda for decades, festering hurt under her outward hatred]

héctor, confused: I was dead???

chaos ensues

[misterrttegrimborn]

we're happy here..

(my edit)

[thepixarau]

22: I just ended a four-year relationship.

Wade: I’m sorry, are you okay?

22: hm? Oh yeah, I’m fine. It wasn’t my relationship.

*Imelda and Héctor arguing across the room*