#helluva smellbarfshit

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

The representation is so horrible that the skin colors are very grayish.

Viv:I have alot of representation

The representation in question:

Lit almost all of the POC characters have grey skin. I mean the clossest ones are prob Sera and Carmila's daughter.

Plus Velvette is just a stereotype of the aggresive black woman, Carmila and Vaggie are angry Latinas and Vaggie is also the stereotype of an aggressive lesbian who hates men.

Ik Vaggie is an executioner and heaven born, but we hear her speak spanish so i included her.

I didn't include Husk or Niffty, since i can't judge Husk much due to him being a cat. Plus Niffty is white as a sheet of paper, but her real stereotype is an Yandere Japanese girl.

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I blocked @jisrael64 because she is a Vivziepoop stan and hates Dana Terrace for no reason at all, because yes.

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I can even agree that Sauerkraut is not an oc of Vivziepoop, but saying that she didn't make nazi and cannibal ocs is not something i can agree with.

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The one on the right looks like something Viv would do.

hopefully this doesn't get me crucified but it's something I noticed.

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Honestly, Hooray for Hell is the only good cartoon that presents us with hell as it is.

Here's some good Hazbin/Helluva critical videos I've seen (since it's so hard to find good ones on YT)

(Both are by GalXE!)

(Left one is by HezuReviews, right is by Autistic Swag!)

(Both are by Madeline Maye!)

(Both are by Cassidy Whiskey!)

Please go check these people out, all of them are extremely talented. Some of them even shared some insight and clever criticism into this series that I hadn't even thought of! (I especially like the Madeline Mayne ones as they poke into how both HB and HH fail at their queer representation.)

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

Amy Winfrey knows how to writes good characters.

(And I'm not even mentioning all the controversial things she and her toxic standom said online.)

Gentle reminder for the fans: If your show's full of flaws then critics aren't the ones to put the blame on. They're just pointing out on flaws, not inserting it into the series. Please remember about this! 🌸

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At least i don't keep tracing my and other's art.

Spindlehorse's lazyness to actually make a scene and not copy-paste/tracing already existing scene FROM THEIR OWN UNIVERSE is Amazing.

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It's not my fault if they supported a bitch who is interested in cheating and porn.

Saw this on my feed.

Something tells me that Saberspark is gonna focus on the spiteful hate instead of the actual legit criticism on the show's poor writing, as well as the other messed up stuff the creator said and did.

I'm worried that's gonna be the case.

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And there's Sallie May who is the worst trans representation i've seen in my entire life, and Viv's stans have the same level as her.

Hello! I am currently trying to make a document including all evidence of Viv's problematic behaviour, and since you're quite popular in the critical community, I wanted to ask your opinion on the structure of it. If I missed anything feel free to correct me!

Vivziepop is a horrible person

I-early signs

-Nazi sausage party ocs (inspred by doctor Mengele, following a nazi blog

-drawing Kesha and glorifying her illness

-Zoophobia (contains the Addison drawings, Mirage being depicted as goofy when she's a pedo, Sahara and Latika designs

-supporting blaire white and Shoe0nhead (her too since Shoe has recently been revealed as a neo nazi)

-transphobia (discord messages)

-drawing Mimzi as a caricature/stereotype of Jewish people

II-Spindlehorse & twitter

-Raphielle shipping valangel, saying their a proshipper and still working on SH

-Following multiple proshippers, including someone who used audios of REAL kids for his digital CP and someone who actively ships Rick/Morty

-allowing and encouraging the harrasment of people who critique her shows to the point they are forced to come out or receive rape threats

-Blaming A24 for the lack of competent advertisement on Hazbin Hotel and replacing the voice cast

-encouraging harassing Erin Frost and Kendraw for coming out with their experience with her

-Studio reviews revealing the nepotism and abuse in the SH studio

III- The shows

-finn/ cole was made cis when he was originally trans

-sally mae only regarded by the fandom as a trap or futa, sexualised in every piece of her merch with her dick being emphasized to the point the fandom fetishizes her

-alastor being made creole or mixed as an afterthought, when Viv had already used real life voodoo symbols, very clearly inspiring alastor from Wendigos without any research, made him white as paper and depicted him as the 100th " asexual and aromantic person is an evil murderer!".

His asexuality and possible aromanticism is always ignored by the fandom in favor of shipping, and inclusive Vivziepop even said to do as they pleased with his sexuality for shipping.

-forced positivity, pushing the idea that even murderers, abusers and horrible people can change hazbin hotel

Depicting abuse (Crimson hitting Moxxie, the whole Valangel tag existing) and sexual assault (again woth Moxxie and angel) as funny jokes or sexy

-Noticing a pattern, Viv tends to promote M/M relationships a lot but depicts them as overtly sexual, predatory and toxic, and seems to have a problem with having "twink" characters abused sexually in a yaoi-ish way (Addison, Moxxie and Angel, Vox. Stolas/blitz too.)

-the only two people of color that are confirmed are Alastor, Velvette and Valentino. Velvette's color is very ashy and she is often infantilised (this might have more to do with her being a woman in Vivs eyes) she presents no POC features at all, neither does Valentino who is a stereotypical black man who is a pimp, abusive (sexually too) and has a short temper.

-using "it's hell " as an excuse to make horrible characters to glorify and depict as the true victim while doing nothing to become better. (Ex. Stolas is a rapist , Blitzo Sexually harrasses his co-workers and is very toxic, Alastor is a serial killer.) Depiction is not glorification, but Viv actively makes it seem like all of it is okay to do and has a show who has a very negative message that affects the viewers and fanbase into excusing disgusting shit.

-disrespecting religion by not accurately researching the demons she talks about

-Sexist writing in helluva and hazbin that favores males(Loona,Millie,Stella, Verosika)

-ableist language by Blitzo, refusal to acknowledge this and even joking about not being able to say a slur

-collaborates with Brandon Rogers,whose work is clearly sexist,racist,homophobic and ableist

-making fun of eating disorders (Moxxie)

-involving kesha in her show while she is trying to get justice for being abused and trying to recover, making the character she voices based on all the things she hated about herself

-included famous voice actors, pays thousands for them but actively underpaid and overworked her staff

-No trigger on an episode that contained Blitzo vomiting

-Barbie wire grooming a teenager is considered a joke (and the tweet doesn't count, we should be able to tell if the teen was actually older by his design or any line of dialogue, if those who don't have twitter won't know it means it's a problem)

-various incest jokes hinting at proshipping (Moxxie/Millie, and a rumor +dialogue cues hint at Andrealphus and Stella being in a relashionship)

-merch of almost all female characters being somewhat sexual

-depicting the Woman/Man as the only healthy relationship (Moxxie/Millie) while the queer couples are toxic (Chaz/Moxxie Blitzo/Stolas)

Holy shit that's a long read, I suggest you make that into a blog post or something. The only portion I can assume that you got correct is the third section. Most of the first two sections are spot on to me, but I am not sure if they're both completely correct because I'm not really aware of what Vivziepop did in the past, just what she has been doing since like last year. Sorry to disappoint, but it is pretty great from what I'm reading.

Modify it to what you think is best so that people will read from it and test read it yourself in case you got something wrong. I suggest you use Grammarly for grammar or spelling issues because even though English is my first language I still struggle with those

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

Just Viv's normal day.

Welcome to another addition of Vivziepop arguing with people on Twitter/Bluesky because of her shows and refusing to listen!

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Agreed, hell, even Making Fiends has a better representation than Trashbin Hotel and Helluva Smellbarfshit.

I know it's absurd to compare a silly cartoon about solid colored humans with fiends from the 2000s with a piece of shit 'cartoon' that probably came out of the 2010s (but it's from the 2020s), but my point is that at least Amy Winfrey knows how to write the characters well, without it seeming forced. Vendetta Vladivkov, for example, is a great italian-bulgarian representation, yes, she is bulgarian, and problably she has autism bipolar narcissistic, Charlotte Charlston, has ADHD, Maggie Mishra, who has literally depression, Mr. Maxwell Milk, a better heterossexual/straight representation and he must has PTSD and Marvin Mai Johnson, which has paranoia.

Dragon Ball has better representation than Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel.

Queer rep: gay, lesbian, aroace, nonbinary/agender, and polyamorous

We have disabled characters that aren't infantilized (Tommy, the blind boy that befriended Buu)

And after several years of donut lips on Black characters, we have accurately drawn and portrayed Black/dark-skinned characters in DB (Uub, Janet, Rulah, ect.)

Here are some awesome examples:

Piccolo: aroace and agender, also part of the main cast

Kakunsa and Bikal: confirmed and open lesbians in a relationship. Not fetishized or shown as queerbait.

Janet: Pan's preschool teacher and an accurately drawn and portrayed Black character, with a loveable design.

Caulifla and Kale: implied lesbians in a relationship. Not fetishized.

And we can't forget about our fat magical girl, Ribrianne. Not shown as a hated greedy glutton, and with an adorable and loveable design.

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And they still treat her as if she were a victim of society.

I think it’s very telling that Vivziepop’s own stans get surprised when you tell them that she was not a teenager when when her problematic behavior (like the Sausage Party Nazi OC’s, defending Blaire White and drawing fanart of her in blackface and mocking Black Lives Matter) started. They seem to think she was 17-19 when that shit happened when she was 24. Her frontal lobe was almost fully formed. That just proves how immature her behavior is when even her own stans think that she’s younger than she actually is.Shes 31 years old and still throws temper tantrums like she’s 13.

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*Cof*,*Cof* Sallie May, *Cof* *Cof*...

"as a nonbinary person, it's a little disappointing how little gender-fuckery there is in hell. the most that we ever get is an crossdressing gay man and a binary trans woman, which is completely fine but like... you're telling me that a version of hell with literal robotic beings (Vox, Robo Fizz), high technological advancements (i.e Fizz's prosthetics), shapeshifting magic (Loona's & succubi's human forms), where the citizens have fantasy anatomy (pentious' two dicks) and where nearly everyone is openly queer and accepted as such, we wouldn't have SOME gender fuckery? some demons playing around with their presentation? using magic and tech to give themselves whatever parts they want and looking like whatever they want? come on now. (don't even get me started on how demons are historically depicted as having a variety of different sexual characteristics-)"

Submitted by @machine-envy

[technicallydelightfulpenguin]

I hope she dies in hell, like other sinners.

Guys the pooplover dude is back and harassing people in their inboxes

Trigger warning for the r slur

This is absolutely disgusting and frankly immature behavior. This person claims that since I'm a minor I shouldn't be watching the show even they literally sent shit porn through my messages and in my inbox. The hypocrisy is appalling if I'm being honest

Oh yeah, kindly reminder that this person sexually harassed the critical community by putting that stuff right where we'd see it

Oh and pooplover if you make another account to stalk the critical community. Friendly reminder that you sexually harassed a minor and probably others by sending them shit porn when we're just trying to state our opinions and ideas. If you don't like something, keep scrolling, block if you have to. But sexually harassing and sending hate to someone just because they have a differing opinion from you, is not okay

Yeah I ended up blocking the guy. Please be safe out there and block them if you get an ask like this!!

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Funny, right? Amy Winfrey knows how to do acid humor better than her.

Vivziepop: *gets pissy that somebody made an actual funny joke abt her show that has hintler*

Also Vivziepop:

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C********S******a and Chaishittysteps don't have the fucking moral authority to criticize Vivziepoop, even though they're on the same level as her.

Another thing about Chaifootsteps.

I saw Chaifootsteps reblog this (I am using a alternate link but you can find where Chai reblogged it if you look hard enough) and all I can say is this:

You ARE bound by morality if you write!

Even the simple act of making erotica is based in the morality of wanting free speech and sexual rights.

Romanticizing evil behaviors such as homophobia, transphobia, beastiality, (*cough* Chaifootsteps *cough*) pedophillia, rape, incest, racism etc makes you a HORRIBLE goddamn person no matter how you put it. You are using your bad representation to put people, real life people, in a worst place to benefit only yourself in return.

This is why people dont like Proshippers. Their vagueness is DANGEROUSLY vague along with containing hidden messages such as what I just explained. FUCK proshippers!

(Except Self Shippers, you can stay.)