#helluva criticism

[66kenobi66]

Here's some good Hazbin/Helluva critical videos I've seen (since it's so hard to find good ones on YT)

(Both are by GalXE!)

(Left one is by HezuReviews, right is by Autistic Swag!)

(Both are by Madeline Maye!)

(Both are by Cassidy Whiskey!)

Please go check these people out, all of them are extremely talented. Some of them even shared some insight and clever criticism into this series that I hadn't even thought of! (I especially like the Madeline Mayne ones as they poke into how both HB and HH fail at their queer representation.)

[helluvabossrewrite45]

I'm so proud of her. Cut him out of your life Octavia. It's for the best.

[kawaiitail-chan]

I saw this peak masterpiece in my fyp LMAO!

[floral-cavern]

I swear, this newest episode of Helluva is just the perfect example of how Viviziepop can’t let men face consequences. Millie was right, they have a job to do. The guy cheated, but it’s ok because he’s gay and he’s a man! Because suddenly Blitz has a moral compass about who to kill. And, of course, the woman who was the victim of the cheating had to be an absolute bitch who everyone hates. Because of fucking course.

[floralcavern]

No. I refuse to believe that Vivziepop actually cares about SA victims. Every piece of evidence points to the contrary. 

CW for images that discuss or showcase rape. Tread cautiously.

First, let’s look at the Glitz and Glam Valentines merch. In this merch, they’re seen groping each other and making a scissoring pose.

The common excuse for this is that they’re just playing into those twincest tropes because that’s their whole brand in the show. But the merch exists outside of the show. This merch was not made in the show to show how the porn company will do any depraved fetish for a quick buck. This merch was made for people in the real world, people who have actual twincest fetishes. You can have merch of them playing into the fact that they’re twins without making it to where they are sexualizing one another like that.  An example of this trope done right are Hikaru and Kaoru from Ouran High School Host Club. These 2 often times play into the twincest trope for money, it’s their whole brand. But the show is very clear in showing us that this is not truly them. We never see them behave this way outside of work. Outside of work, they act like actual brothers. They’re doing it just for money. (And it’s also kind of trauma, but watch OHSHC if you want to see that in depth lol)

I was discussing something with my friend, how fiction does affect reality, since fiction is a direct byproduct of reality, which is why things like incest or age gap ships are inherently wrong. My friend (who is a big Hannibal fan) goes “I get where you’re coming from and I agree, but I’m also a simp for fictional cannibals.” And to that I said you are less likely to meet someone who is a cannibal or done that heinous crime than you are to find someone who’s a victim to incest abuse. It’s similar to how Vox doesn’t receive hate from the fandom for killing lower income workers, because that’s almost cartoonish in how bad it is.

Then there’s Val. The show is constantly fluctuating between him between a genuine, sinister threat and then him being a ridiculously silly evil man that we shouldn’t take seriously. I can almost understand what they’re going for, showing that he’s an absolute loser that we’re meant to point and laugh at, because he is a loser (fuck sexual abusers). However, there’s a huge disconnect. It’s jarring when you switch between the two on a dime. And I think part of the reason they do this is because of his relationship with Vox. Vox is meant to be a silly, goofy villain and so pairing him with the genuine sinister and disgusting version of Val that we all know and hate, it would feel weird. But here’s the thing. NONE of the Vees should feel cartoonish and stupid like this. They’re supposed to be perceived as actual threats, apparently. So, instead, make Vox genuinely sinister and evil too! ACKNOWLEDGE HIS CAMERA IN ANGEL’S DRESSING ROOM! ACKNOWLEDGE HIM MARKETING VAL’S DATE RAPE DRUG! Don’t add these background details if you’re not going to acknowledge that Vox is a predator as well. 

And then there’s Charlie, who has the power and authority to take Val down if she wanted to. But why doesn’t she? Because, in her words, “That would be so meaaaaan.” …I have nothing to say to that. 

And then there’s Angel. He is not deep in the slightest. They tried so hard but failed miserably. He’s supposedly from a mafia background. You would never know because he’s never seen outside of anything sexual. Sex jokes, comments on how he’s sexy, talking about how he’s a sex worker, all that jazz. He has nothing going for him outside of sex. Which is bad when his whole arc is meant to be how he hates being sexualized deep down! I understand that the show is trying to show us that he’s hypersexualizing himself because of his trauma. But this rings hollow when the show refuses to show us literally anything outside of him being sexual! Apparently, he likes to sing and dance. But you wouldn’t know that! (I know he sings, BUT EVERYONE SINGS. IT’S A MUSICAL. Even Vaggie sings when she clearly didn’t like it in the first episode, so Poison doesn’t count). You wouldn’t know anything about his interests because all he’s used for is for sex. It doesn’t help that literally almost all of his merch surrounds him being sexualized in some way, feeding into the idea of him hypersexualizing himself not being taken seriously. 

This is especially bad when you remember that when Viv was marketing the music video for Poison, THIS WOMAN MADE A CUM JOKE! Yknow, the music video all about sexual abuse? Ya, let’s make a stupid sex pun because that’s not tone deaf at all! Fuck you Viv.

And only certain characters get their sexual abuse shined on. But if you’re, say, Blitzo, Sir Pentious, or Husk, your SA experience is completely swept under the rug and ignored. Why? Well, because Blitzo and Husk are more masculine characters than her twinks who get acknowledged for their abuse. And Pentious is a character we’re supposed to be pointing and laughing at. 

And don’t even get me started on Raphielle. This person is a storyboard artist for the show, and the storyboard artist for Poison. AND THIS MOTHERFUCKER HAS A RAPE FETISH! I kid you not! This person has even drawn art of Angel being raped by Vox and Val. I refuse to believe Viv cares about abuse victims when she has someone like this on her pay roll (whom she actively defends, mind you). She even lied, saying that this person is a victim of sexual abuse, to which this person admitted was a LIE. 

Also, how she treats fans who are also victims of SA. Everytime someone comes forward, saying that they didn’t like the depiction of sexual abuse in the show, Viv will dogpile on them (the most famous example of this being Limus). But then if a fan who is a victim of SA praises the depiction, she will put them on a pedestal. This is tokenization at its finest!

And, hey, let’s talk about Viv’s catcalling comic, too!

In this comic, two women are being catcalled. One hates it and the other likes it, saying that it means they’re attractive. The one who hates it then starts yelling at the other girl and based on the framing of the scene, it feels we’re supposed to hate the first girl and think that the second girl was right. FUCK. THAT. This comic could’ve been such an interesting commentary on victim blaming and unhealthily coping with SA by justifying it to yourself. But no. That’s not what was done here. Great. 

EDIT:

I feel like this video is also appropriate to add here

This was her response to people’s criticism about how she handles SA in her shows. She dresses up as the rapist from her shows, flaunts around, and says he’s based on her. Classy.

[doomalade]

Now this is what an actually loving and caring parent looks like.

Fuck you Stolass, you deserve the worse to come your way.

[darryl-art-and-rp-area]

That one fan animation where Stolas took the leap is the best timeline that the show could've had, but no, instead we're stuck with a whiny crybaby owl incel shit that his equally immature creator, Vivziepop, literally breaking apart the narrative only to favor Stolas in the process while victim blaming everyone else who dared to say no to Stolas.

Helluva Boss became the show where the bully wins, no joke.

[wimpywompythethird]

I can’t be the only one who feels iffy about Vivziepop’s approach to ‘representation.’ To me, it feels like they’re checking off boxes instead of actually putting effort into a character, especially when you look at how almost all the gay characters in the show are portrayed as feminine, overly sexualized, extremely skinny or a mix of all three. There’s nothing wrong with any of those traits and if they make you happy, that’s great. However, when every gay character fits that same mold, it stops being true representation. Instead, it starts to feel like a stereotype rather than diversity. Sure, there are gay people who embody these traits in real life, but when a series labels itself as a “queer show,” it should aim for a broader, more nuanced portrayal.

The show has already demonstrated its ability to create a range of body types with characters like Satan, Mammon and even some background characters. If the show can represent diverse body types why not extend that same diversity to the gay characters? I’ll give Fizzarolli a bit of a pass here, though. with his robotic body he literally can’t gain weight anywhere except his stomach.

Sidenote: here’s some background character designs I love

[starlight-bread-blog]

Right. Which is why she agreed that Striker is a supremacist while he is from a lower class and clearly been though a lot. Which is why she made him a freak when nothing in his first appearance could point to him being like that. Which is why she completely assassinated someone who was trying to rise to the powerful world she's against. Which is why she made him, a character that clearly suits her themes, into a stock villian.

It's really incoherent to tell a story about rising up against oppression only to make the one character that actually stands up to the oppressor as an irredeemable, self absorbed weirdo.

[hill-art02]

"Why are all the imps so mean to Stolas? What did he do to deserve this? 😭"

I don't know, maybe because he openly belittled them, mistreats his servants, and coerced an imp to sleep with him

Also, the goetias has oppressed imps for who knows how long, so why should they care for Stolas just because he "isn't as bad"?

[66kenobi66]

Shoutout to my girl Angel Gabby for being a better representation of Religion, Angels, and trauma than all of the Hellaverse!

She's literally me fr.

(Please go check out Angel Hare on the The East Patch Youtube channel!!!)

[verboselocket38]

I will admit to give credit where credit is due, Viv somehow made me not like her show with one season.

That episode was literally trying to justify cheating. Aparently "its ok to cheat if your cheating on your wife with a man!"

Like do I have to remind IN THE FIRST EPISODE OF THE SERIES BLITZØ WAD FINE KILLING A FAMILY WHERE THE MAN CHEATED WITH A WOMAN?

I am tired I dont know HOWWW people can think that this is ok. If ANYONE gets cheated on they CAN BE ANGRY! IT IS NOT FUCKING JUSTIFIABLE AT ALL.

And just like I predicted, they are gonna use Millie being pregnant as a way to grow her character.

Honestly its the double standards and the justifying cheating that makes me hate this.

[kawaiitail-chan]

why is this so true tho

found this on pinterest

[azural83]

Vivziepop's unintentional ability in making stolas more unlikable is actually impressive

[floralcavern]

All this and only one

All I can say is

[stinkyfart13]

This is a verrry shitty sketch made at 1am but shouldn't saint Peter look more like this?

Again this is not a redesign, moreso a tiny little concept.

It's okay if you wanna make heaven all white, but it's not okay to just white wash Saint Peter like that...