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#homophobic john winchester
beansprean · 2 months
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Ty @slaygentford, @unrequitedloveisabitch, and @pinknatural for this post lmao
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ID: 1a. Waist up of Castiel opening the front door of a home with a blank expression, wearing a blue robe completely open. John Winchester is standing on the doorstep, back to the viewer. 1b. Reverse shot. John looks down at Cas's exposed junk, brow furrowed, but says nothing. A floating bar next to his head titled 'homophobia loading' is half full.
2a. Reverse shot back to Cas. Dean's voice rings out from somewhere in the house: "Baby, do you want chocolate chip pancakes?" Without taking his eyes off John or changing his expression, Cas replies, "Of course, my love." John keeps staring at his exposed junk. 2b. Repeat. John looks up just in time for the door to slam in his face.
3. Screenshot of a tumblr post by slaygentford that says "Cas answering the door to John in heaven wearing that robe, nothing under it, dick out while sounds of dean cooking come from within the house is truly worse for him than the fifty whatever years he spent being tortured in hell." A reblog by unrequitedloveisabitch says "had to immortalize your tags deanspurpleflannel they are too perfect not to XD" and has a screenshot of tags by deanspurpleflannel that read "#john: #cas: #dean in the distance: Baby, do you want chocolate chip pancakes? <3 #cas without breaking eye contact with john: of course my love <3 #and then he closes the door." /end ID
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We’ve all heard of ace!Cas, but how about some ace!Dean?
Ohhhh yes!
Alright you know what we're writing this as a coming out to an asshole John because I feel like writing it as coming out to Sam wouldn't be that interesting. 
~an hour later~ 
TW for sl/rs, homophobia, some violence but eventually cuteness 
They were sitting at a cafe on a Wednesday. John was flipping through a newspaper idly while Sam had gone to get some coffee and pastries. Why oh why is this so hard? Dean took a deep breath in threw his nose and exhaled slowly before opening his eyes. John was staring at him. 
“You good?” his father asked, raising an eyebrow. 
“Actually, I need to talk to you about something,” Dean responded, twisting his fingers nervously. 
“What is it, son?” John leaned forward and set his hands on the table, an old gesture to show that he carried no weapons. Of course, this wasn’t true. 
“Um… so… I don’t know-” his voice cracked. Dammit. 
“Dean, are you okay?” 
Breath you idiot. It’s okay. You’re in a public space, he won’t hurt- 
But he wasn’t. He was 15 years old, wearing a leather jacket and enough hair oil to grease a truck. And his dad was telling him to go flirt with a woman to get information. He was 16 years old, red marks on his face for refusing to grab a gun from a man because it was tucked in his crotch and letting him get away. He was 17 years old, stance crooked and being told to take a woman to bed in order to get what they needed. He was 18 years old, internally wincing as he groped a werewolf and tricked one into safety before his dad finished the group. He was 19 years old, face bloody from a fight that “could have been avoided” if he had slept with someone. It went on and on and on… 
“Dean!” John cried, gently slapping his son’s face to get him to snap out of it. “Dean, son, what is going on?!” 
“I’m asexual!” Dean blurted out finally, tears running down his face. “I’m asexual and gay, Dad!” 
“What the bloody hell does that mean?” he responded, jerking his hand back. “You’re one of them f-” 
“Don’t. You. Dare,” a voice said. Sam stepped forward and his shadow leaned over John. “You have no right to that word. Dean is trusting you with something very personal and you had better as fuck listen before I beat your ass.” 
“As if you could! Dean, I didn’t raise a sissy! I raised you to be a-” 
SMACK. John’s neck snapped to the side as Sam’s hand connected with it. 
“STOP IT! Stop it, you two! Dad, I don’t feel sexual attraction and I like guys! That’s it! End of story! We’re leaving!” Dean yelled. 
Near sobbing, he stood up, knocking his chair back. Sam shot a last glare at John before they turned and walked back to the car. By the time they got there, Dean’s collar was soaked and Sam’s eyes were misty. Dean yanked open the passenger door and gestured for Sam to take the wheel. The whole drive back to the bunker, Dean cried. He cried and cried and cried. 
Why oh why did I expect anything different? 
By the time they reached the bunker, he was still crying but less heavily. Sam got out, grabbed the food from the cafe, and helped Dean out of the car. They opened the door to the smell of cake in the oven. 
“Cas? We’re- um, we’re back,” Sam called out. 
“In the kitchen!” Cas yelled back. “How did it-” 
He stopped short when he saw Dean sobbing in his brother’s arms. Without a word, Cas walked up and pulled his boyfriend into his arms. 
“I got you, baby. I got you, my dear. I’ve got you right here, my love. My human. My person.” 
A hot shower later, they sat around a table eating a rainbow cake. The tears were dried and wiped away, kisses were exchanged, and Cas and Dean celebrated their one year anniversary. 
“We don’t need anyone but those who love us,” Cas whispered before happily shoving a piece of cake into his lover’s face.
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02x14 · 4 months
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John's homophobia is more like if Sam comes out as gay he'd say it's good esp since males don't form long-term relationships so it's better for hunting
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torturedpoetemotions · 2 months
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Actually the implications of John also being bisexual are so fucking tasty to me because like. OG John has no support system and no protection against the world except his own perceived strength so he learns to ferret out anything that can possibly be seen as weakness to those around him and that includes any affection or attraction he might feel towards men because nothing screams "stay in your fucking closet" like spending all your time around a fringe subculture of serial killing doomsday preppers in the Midwest during the Reagan era.
By the time he notices Dean starting to look a little too long at boys his age, he's probably convinced himself that whatever he felt (still feels but ignores) was a temporary youthful indiscretion, and of course Dean can't afford those, doesn't get to have those, he's got to be a soldier. He's got to be a better soldier than John, even.
I dunno I've just had enough conversations with family members who are loudly but somehow also mildly homophobic and yet say or do things that make me *eyeballs emoji* not to think this is not only possible but arguably likely.
#supernatural#the winchesters#spn#spnwin#john winchester#shifting my headcanon of john to the type of person who doesn't think of himself as homophobic if he ever things about it at all#and would even probably try to stop a hate crime if he saw one happening right in front of him#(or likes to think he would)#but also views his own queer desire--and thus that of others--with suspicion and contempt#like something frivolous that he simply doesn't have the luxury to pursue as a Real Man in the Real World with Real Responsibilities#and when you live like that especially due to your own choices anything that seems like a luxury you view with a certain level of contempt#so he's like 'heh must be nice to have time for boyfriends' in the most condescending and degrading way imaginable#in the same way he probably treated sam's affinity for academia#in fact i'd argue a lot of what we see from dean with regards to the way he mocks sam for certain things is probably just echoes of john#and what's REALLY crazy-making is the way most of these things dean mocks sam for early on later prove to be things DEAN actually does enjo#dean likes to read and he loves chick flicks and he gets excited about tomatoes and enjoys dressing up nice#dean learned early on that certain things were not acceptable for a Real Man from john bullying him out of doing them#and he does the same to sam#and one of the things he consistently mocks sam for in the beginning is his perceived sexuality#and sure we could just chalk that up to stereotyping but EVEN THEN that jives with the idea that#john simply put his own queer desire in a box labeled 'weaknesses real men don't have' along with idk a love of reading and salads and bein#emotionally vulnerable and sincere with people you love#and then he told Dean 'this is the box of forbidden things'#and dean the ever-dutiful son learned his lesson well
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mybrainproblems · 1 year
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The thing is, I don't think John Winchester was rockette kicking into PFLAG meetings but I also don't think he was the violent homophobe a lot of the fandom portrays him as. If anything, I think there was just a kind of tacit acceptance of Dean's sexuality where he just sort of ignored it and left it at "don't bring anyone home around Sammy" with some added emphasis on not trying to slip a guy past him as being "just a friend"
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bloodfreak-boyking · 2 months
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let’s be so fr right now John is definitely not homophobic bc that would imply a level of care about something that isn’t related to finding what killed Mary, which he doesn’t have the mental space for bc he’s on a decades long mission/grief spiral to hunt down what killed her and ruined his life. In this essay I will-
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fujobrainrot · 4 months
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John winchester is NOT homophobic. Anyone who thinks so, I demand that you watch The Winchesters. Yeah Dean messed with the timeline in that show but only made him meet Mary early. He met Carlos right after meeting her and from the beginning he had NO PROBLEM with Carlos's sexuality.
Carlos talks openly about being attracted to men, including specific men, in front of John and he doesn't even blink.
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spn-lesbian · 2 years
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me seeing John and Carlos this episode: my god… these bitches gay, good for them, good for them
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catfoodsminmo · 11 months
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happy dadfucker friday! how do you think john justifies his relationship with dean to himself? is he tortured by it? in denial? shameless? or is it more complicated than both of those things? same ask to everyone this week as i am, as ever, keen on learning the general consensus 👀
so i subscribe to the "dean is trans" headcanon so my everything is shaped by that
i think that, particularly in moments of sobriety, john is nearly sick with himself because he's dragged both of his kids into this and he's turned his eldest into a pseudo-wife. initially, dean was a stand-in mother and john was so lonely and couldn't stop himself, by this point in my mind dean had also started engaging in sex work (because how the fuck else are they paying for GAS tbh) and it becomes a bit of a twisted miasma of attraction and shame and pride in his boy for doing the work that he "cant"
when things are less sober i think there's a lot less shame and a lot more pride in all of the ways he "owns" dean and all the ways dean shows his love for his dad and his brother, including with his body
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myfandomhell · 1 year
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if both your kids get more physical and emotional comfort from actual demons. When Lucifer puts more effort into being a dad, and when a vampire is a better friend who actually is there when your son needs, then yes you're the worst character.
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famdommcfanface · 2 years
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Is John gay? Maybe. More importantly, does Millie think John is gay? 100% yes.
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sky-pie · 2 years
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why is this show making me like john winchester??? JOHN. WINCHESTER. 😭😭
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angelsdean · 2 years
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i don’t even want to entertain bi john thoughts but. i can def see him being the “it was just a phase” type and vehemently denying he’s anything other than straight once he’s with mary and doubling down no the homophobia and then when dean starts displaying interest in guys he turns a blind eye like ‘oh he’s just going thru his little phase’. but then when that phase doesn’t stop he turns around like, ‘you’re not actually some kind of fucking queer are you?’ 
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Less than two years later and I’m already letting the supernatural writers trick me again
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broke: john sent dean in his birthday to burn&salt two lesbian nuns because he's a lgbtphobe and hates lesbians and his gay-ass son woke: john sent dean in his birthday to burn&salt two lesbian nuns because he and dean are atheists and hate nuns and actually that was his birthday present 
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When did we start throwing around homophobic words for stereotypical reasons in the year 2022
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