#how am i supposed to be a discord moderator if you keep doing that
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ALMA: What do you mean by 'as bad'? But I am indeed seemingly in the middle of a..situation. Trying to talk an iterator in my group into giving us a formula we very much need right now. He's quite selfish though.
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#echoing astrum#iterator#iterator oc#rain world#ea looking at the 500+ forced broadcast requests from nsh trying to talk to moon#how am i supposed to be a discord moderator if you keep doing that#nervous wreck gets to manage like 5 other people who are going crazy#tldr: ITS BAD
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Lmfaooo what a week đ
So a lot of people are, understandably, leaving the fandom. Drama like this always tends to put people off and unfortunately that affects the media theyâve come to love. Iâm not going to be one of those people bc honestly, I donât even know if I was ever that âinâ the fandom in the first place to even leave it. My account isnât and never was a nevermore account, yes Iâve made a few nevermore post but those were infrequent and amongst posts and reblogs of multiple other fandoms. Iâm also in the discord server but Iâve only ever been a lurker, and usually only ever go in it when I want more context to something Iâve seen on tumblr. With that being said however, I still plan on reading nevermore when (or if) it continues because in THIS particular instance I can easily separate art from the artist and Iâll explain why in a moment.
Like I said Iâm not and never have been very active in the fandom. I learned about this drama through a post from an account I follow and went through the server to find more context. I was not present through any of the actual conflicts but Iâve seen the conversations.
So why am I commenting on this?
Well mainly I want to make a point about para social relationships as well as moderation of servers and fandoms as a creator.
I just want to preface this by saying that after reading through all possible context, perspectives, takes and evidence I could find or come across, I genuinely donât think red is necessarily a bad/morally wrong person. I DO however think she is in the wrong in this situation especially due to how she handled everything. As for how a lot of people are reacting to everything, thereâs a couple of things Iâd like to note:
From what Iâve seen, all of this is just one big thing of âhe said/she saidïżœïżœ and pointing fingers as well as just picking sides. If your absolutely distraught because red didnât turn out to be the person you thought they were simply because she said things you didnât like, I understand the disappointment and frustration but please remember that content creators in general arenât your friends. You donât know these people, they just do things you happen to like. Now Iâm not saying you SHOULDNâT feel upset about it, itâs ok to and you even should if itâs an issue to you feel strongly about but please keep in mind that this isnât a âsign of their true colorsâ or anything because you donât know what they were actually like to begin with. Ofc I donât mean that to say âexpect the worst from peopleâ but more as a reminder that can hopefully help you to look at the situation more critically and logically before jumping in guns blazing. Itâs understandable if it affects you emotionally, you were emotionally invested in their work; but please realize this before you let it get to that point. Now on the other side of the coin, thereâs the people who I feel as though will just pick the creators side simply because theyâre fanboys and will stand by them no matter what. Iâm DEFINITELY NOT saying thatâs what everyone whoâs on red side is, but naturally thereâs bound to be a few that are going to dickride for the sake of dickriding. Regardless, thereâs a lack of willingness to listen and understand from both sides (at least from what Iâve noticed) and thatâs a problem because when no one wants to listen then whatâs supposed to be a community coming together to resolve an issue just turns into a giant flame war. Also this should go without saying, but at least give the mods a chance. They obviously handled the whole situation horrendously but they arenât going to do their jobs any better when theyâve got people coming at them with pitchforks.
Speaking of the moderators. I genuinely canât wrap my head around how red and the other mods have managed to fumble this badlyâŠâŠ.like itâs almost funny. All said and done they all had ONE very simple job and they blew it. Although I very much disagree with it, I do understand redâs decision to unban crimson. They wanted to give them a second chance, sure whatever. What I DONT GET is why would they not at the very least check to see if anyone else would be comfortable with a decision that would possibly affect them or even impact their safety. At the very least a warning to or a discussion with the victims would have been something. Not only that but even after they unban them, once red saw the NUMEROUS amount of people that were upset about it they, they should have immediately banned them again and then apologize after instead of some rushed explanation. But I get it stress gets the better of you. I understand their desire to keep things as transparent as possible (which i appreciate and Iâm sure so do many others) but from that first apology/explanation it felt more like red trying to shake responsibility off themselves and pointing fingers in the guise of being transparent. I did see where red was trying to get at in her first statement, but there was also things that she honestly should have just had the foresight to realize wouldnât put her in a better light, and this is aside from the victim blaming-esque wording. red basically says that she felt like a group of people (including Laci the one who reported crimson) were just out to get crimson, which is absolutely insane but then again itâs the internet so who knows. However itâs super clear that Laci obviously wasnât lying bc the things she accused crimson of did in fact happen. So even bringing that up was enough for me to raise my eyebrow at but I digress. Then red practically says it was hard to handle the situation bc the evidence provided was censored, but Laci literally offered to give the uncensored versions so that was completely disingenuous on redâs part at best. To me it just seemed like the mods were looking for excuses for what could be there own laziness at best and negligence at worst. Their biggest fault so far is not being very good at actually listening to their audience and taking them into consideration. She also brought up that fact that Laci was apparently the only person to report crimson which I did not like to say the least. One of the victims confided in Laci and Laci brought it forward. I understand reds suspicions about Laci not being in the actual server where it happened but how are you going to immediately jump to âwell why did no one else bring it upâ instead of stopping for a sec and thinking â hm clearly these victims feel uncomfortable stepping forwardâ. Which they had to do now anyway because of how bad the issue became. They should not have had to do that. Better it be just one person reporting, even if itâs someone you donât like, than no one reporting and the issue persists under the radar.
And then thereâs redâs formal apologyâŠ
First off, girl why are you dropping names??? A bunch of who are supposedly minors? Like letâs be so fucking for real right nowđ
And then the audacity to be like âplease donât go after or dm these peopleâ like babes if you were genuinely worried about them you wouldnât have used their names at all. ESPECIALLY when in the end it was completely irrelevant and borderline inappropriate since it really had nothing to do with crimson, their actions or how you handled them. Not to mention the act of calling them âcliquesâ when literally all they were was side servers. Like if theyâre cliques then what does that make red and everyone whoâs on her side? It was very clearly just a biased reaction to people saying things she doesnât like about her, which by all means she has the right to respond to but not in a way that is clearly trying to sway how everyone else sees them. The way red describes everything is as if itâs middle school drama and then proceeds to play directly into it. Donât get me wrong her apology was fine, when she was ACTUALLY apologizing. Everything else felt like a last ditch effort to drag others under the bus with her. It was lowkey embarrassing to say the least.
Again, itâs important that I make it clear that I donât believe red is a bad person. I just think sheâs an immature person, or at least she is in how she handled everything and continues to handle it bc like I said I donât know her, and donât care to frankly. I didnât start reading nevermore to be buddy buddy with her. Like if we look at the grand scope of things, this is a grown woman beefing with kids. Obviously they arenât all kids, most of them arenât I believe but sheâs practically stooping down to school yard conflict in how sheâs responded so far. Especially at one point in the server when she was being called out and jumped to âyeah I guess Iâm the bad guy and totally evil. You all should hate meâ. Like actually cut that shit out, what are you doing. I mean honestly.
And my final point because Iâve ranted long enough. I mentioned before that in this instance I am willing to separate the art from the artist, I stand by that because I genuinely do think this is a situation where red could hopefully grow from this and rectify things. The actual unbanning was a stupid and inconsiderate move on her part, but I donât think she meant any ill-will or had any malicious intent. I disagree with the people calling her a r@pe apologist because thatâs honestly just a huge reach. Iâve also seen some accusations of red and/or Flynn being racist, promoting inappropriate art knowing thereâs minors around and from what Iâve seen itâs pretty iffy. Regarding the racism, I donât believe that they are. Their characterizations of the characters regarding their ethnicities IS stereotypical and was obviously just very surface level research into those respective cultures but I chopped that up to ignorance rather than racism. As a woc I was frankly just relived they didnât make the poc characters centered on some kind of discrimination or tragedy from their era, which yes is something that shouldnât be ignored but also I donât know if rednflynn could accurately and more importantly, respectfully portray those types of issues. Nor is it even their place tbh. With that being said however I donât belong to most of the cultures the characters belong to. To me it never seemed like they were making a caricature out of these cultures, especially since their ethnicities are barely relevant to their stories anyway but I acknowledge that itâs not my place to deem whatâs offensive or not.
As for the promoting inappropriate art of the characters and creating some themselves. Yeah they do. Iâve never been shocked about that nor did I think it was something that they are wrong for doing, I mean itâs their own work. Granted I didnât realize how many minors were in the fandom but thatâs literally every fandom, thereâs only so much you could do about it. I donât know if nevermore has a rating but itâs not like it was something ever promoted to be kid friendly, itâs obvious that some scenes are just straight up fan service. While I personally donât like fan service it never was enough to impact the story so I personally never saw an issue. But point is I donât think they should have to monitor what is and isnât appropriate for minors but things get tricky when they have a server where they are clearly aware of minors.
And then thereâs other things like people accusing them of promoting SA or some shit like that bc of a lot of stuff involving Montessor which frankly, thatâs just a media literacy issue on the readers part. So yeah with that being said I donât think red is a bad person, although I understand why a lot of people are done with them which is completely fair. Iâm pretty much in a grey area about it, who knows if they end up getting in an even bigger scandal, hopefully they come out better from this but only time will tell. The best/smartest thing red has said throughout this entire debacle was that theyâre taking a step back from the fandom. I think itâll be good for everyone, especially them. It seems like itâll take stress off them anyway. Plus the hole theyâve dug for themselves is already halfway to china by now so thereâs that
#nevermore#nevermore webcomic#nevermore webtoon#if thereâs anything vital piece of information o]that I got wrong or missed please feel free to let me know
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Hi, I hope you're doing well :p
If I'm not saying non-sense you said previously you have DID, if you're okay to answer, how do you handle it on the ED-side but also in daily life? Especially while you studied, got a degree/diploma etc
I'm actually struggling with dissociation, amnesia and part stuff, and if on the side of ED it's scaring of what could I do because I'm not in the same "mindset" as before such as fasting for days or binge or anything, studying is worse. I sometime can't study at all for hours for the reason I forget it or just having a flash crisis or not interested at this moment or any reason and still need to. It's so frustrating to not remember anything of this course, or just knowing I could in fact study but can't physically?
Advice would be really appreciated but don't feel pressured to answer, especially since it's not the main theme of your account
Have a good day anyway!!
I was diagnosed with DID when I was 18, about a year after I moved out of my family home. Prior to that, a therapist thought I was bipolar or had BPD and that explained my mood changes, and that my periods of forgetfulness were from ADHD.
It's been a slower road to figuring out that yes, I do have ADHD and autism, but I also have CPTSD and DID, as well as ASPD and OCD likely as a result of the others never being properly treated in childhood.
I personally have done a lot of integrative work (that is, breaking down of dissociative barriers) in the years since we figured out what was going on, which helps a lot to not interrupt the greater life in general. Everybody isn't on the exact same page but at least we're all reading the same book most of the time. There are different interests and priorities and emotions (most of our true amnesia now is emotional) but too much of "what am i supposed to be doing right now" or "what do we do at work".
You may need a PTSD or DID specialist to help with that process - regular trauma therapists usually don't know what they're talking about. For us, personally, being out of the abusive environment was enough for the brain to slowly let down walls, and we also did DBT.
It can also be really helpful to make notes and lists. We have a personal system discord server where we write down things that need to be remembered or things like what groceries are in the house and what recipe we were making with them. We also use that for communicating between alters over longer periods of time, like passing notes.
Over the years we've also learned how to structure things in the system to keep things as stable as possible. Some alters aren't suited to certain tasks, to work, to talking to certain people, so we avoid triggering them out and try to keep strong, stable fronters around.
I actually didn't have too much trouble in school, having picked a field of study most of us were interested enough in to keep up with and already knew enough about to not need to start from square one, though i did have to repeat a couple of classes over the summer my sophomore year because I was suddenly being slightly stalked by the family member who caused our original trauma and that caused me to split majorly and become a bit agoraphobic for a semester.
To answer your question about the ED, we've had it for so long it's been baked into major alter "clusters" and enough of the idea of who we were prior to knowing we were a system that even with switches, the most you'll get is maybe an alter who doesn't care enough to participate, but won't sabotage the ones who do or tell on them. We did have issues in the past with the alter who started the ED getting majorly upset at others who wouldn't participate, but he's chilled out a lot now.
Medication also helps! I take a moderate dose of anticonvulsants that are approved for use in PTSD - that has gotten rid of my nightmares and acts as a mood stabilizer. I also take a beta blocker for POTS which helps my body further feel regulated. When you're not being constantly overstimulated and freaked out, it's much easier to stabilize the system.
Long story short, for your situation, and assuming what you're experiencing is dissociative, structural amnesia rather than severe ADHD, I would recommend trying to figure out triggers! If you can identify a way to keep a stronger, motivated host around as much as possible, that can help a lot in locking in for work or studying purposes.
Let me know if you have other questions!
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Your Code Is Hard To Read!
This is one of those posts I make not because I think my followers need to hear them, but because I want to link to them from Discord from time to time. If you are a Moderator, Contributor or "Helpfulie" on the PyGame Community Discord, I would welcome your feedback on this one!
"You posted your code and asked a question. We can't answer your question. Your code is hard to read."
Often when we tell people this, they complain that coding guidelines are just aesthetic preferences, and they didn't ask if their code followed coding guidelines. They asked us to fix the bug. That may be so, but the problem remains: If you ask us to fix your code, we can only help you if we can read it.
Furthermore, if there are many unrelated bugs, architectural problems, and hard to understand control flow, the concept of fixing an isolated bug becomes more and more unclear.
In order to fix unreadable code, you could:
eliminate global variables
replace magic numbers with constants
replace magic strings with enumerations
name classes, functions, constants, variables according to consistent coding standards
have functions that do one thing and one thing only like "collision detection" or "collision handling". If your function does two things at the same time, like rendering AND collision detection, then it must be refactored
rewrite deeply nested and indented code to be shallower
rewrite code that keeps a lot of state in local variables into special-case functions
use data structures that make sense
write comments that explain the program, not comments that explain the programming language
delete unneccessary/unreachable code from the question to make it easier to read or from your program to see if the problem persists
My own programs often violate one or more of those rules, especially when they are one-off throwaway scripts, or written during a game jam, or prototypes. I would never try to ask other people for help on my unreadable code. But I am an experienced programmer. I rarely ask for help in an unhelpful way. Almost never ask for help in a way that makes other experienced programmers ask for more code, or less code, or additional context. I post a minimal example, and I usually know what I am doing. If I don't know what I am doing, or if I need suggestions about solving my problem completely differently, I say so.
Beginner programmers are at a disadvantage here. They don't know what good code looks like, they don't know what good software architecture looks like, they don't know how to pare down a thousand lines of code to a minimal example, and if they try to guess which section of code contains the error, they usually guess wrong.
None of this matters. It may be terribly unfair that I know how to ask smart questions, and beginner programmers ask ill-posed questions or post code that is so bad it would be easier and quicker for an experienced programmer to re-write the whole thing. It is often not feasible to imagine what the author might have intended the code to work like and to fix the bugs one by one while keeping the structure intact. This is not a technical skill, this is a communicative and social skill that software engineers must pick up sooner or later: Writing code for other people to read.
If your code is too hard to read, people can't practically help you.
It gets worse. Unreadable code is sometimes unreadable because it is un-salvageable. It is hard to understand because there is nothing to understand, it would not work, and you need to go back to the drawing board.
Defensive Responses
This is not where the problem ends. Often, after a couple of rounds of back and forth, after questions like "Well, you say there is a bug, but can you tell me what you would want the code to do in the first place?", or "Is this a class or an instance? If it's supposed to be an instance variable, could you give it a lowercase name?" or "Could you give that variable _obj a more descriptive name? It looks like you are assigning different things to this variable in different parts of your loop. Perhaps you could use two variables with different, more descriptive names", you see a defensive response. The original question asker is not interested in making code easy to read, just in making it work. As I explained above, this is a confused way of thinking, because ill-posed questions and unreadable code make it difficult to impossible to make the code work, or to even understand what making it work would look like.
"Style is irrelevant." â This is by far the most common one. Since coding style, comments, variable names, and even re-factoring code into smaller functions do not affect the output, and thus not the correctness of the program.
"I asked for help with bugs, not style." â This is a variation on the first one. As long as there is no concrete and discrete bug, style feedback and questions for clarification can be discarded.
"This is too much work." â The original poster explains that making the code more readable is too much work for them, and fixing the bugs would be easier for others.
"Nobody will see the code anyway" â Nobody will see the code of the finished product, so it's irrelevant. Sometimes there are variations like "We aren't graded on code quality, only correctness" or "This is for a class project, nobody will depend on the code, so we don't need robustness."
"This is just throwaway code, it doesn't have to be good." â Like the previous one, this is frustrating to read because somebody posted the code on a forum for other people to read and asked them to understand it, and then said he doesn't care if it's readable or debuggable.
"I asked you for help." / "I am asking the questions here." â The original poster refuses to answer questions, because he asked, he expects answers, not questions in return.
"Don't blame me, I didn't write it" â We have completely left the realm of correctness and style now. The poster knows the code is unreadable, or doesn't make sense. He tried to protect his reputation. But he doesn't like the tone of the responses. Its not his fault the code doesn't make sense. It's not his fault if it doesn't work. Common variations are "This must be correct, it was the accepted answer on StackOverflow", or "I copied this from a tutorial", or "Don't blame me, this was written by GitHub Copilot". Often part of the problem is that the code has different parts written in different styles, or uses different data structures in different places, and both parts could benefit from a re-write to make them more consistent with each other. At other times the problem is that the code from the book is "correct" for certain purposes from the book, but not really suited for the problem at hand.
"I apologised already" â The poster is frustrated because he said "I am sorry I am a n00b" or "I am sorry for my bad English" already. Then somebody said his code is unreadable or his prose makes no sense. The poster sees readable code, or at least code that is readable enough to understand what the idea was, as a courtesy, as a social custom, not as something necessary to make the whole question and answer thing work. The same goes for a firm grasp of English. The poster apologised already that his English is bad, and you should just see past it. Dealing with this is especially difficult, because Q&A is framed as some kind of status game, and the poster is trying hard to save face already. Push-back will make him feel like he is losing face, and he will only get more defensive.
Causes
So where does the problem begin? Why do people write unreadable code, post it online, and get defensive? I think the answer is a combination of programming skill, social skill, and simplistic mental models.
Software Engineering is Difficult: Obviously, one root cause is that beginner programmers can't already write readable code from the start. Writing readable, well-factored code that is easy to debug, re-use, and adapt is something that comes with experience. Writing code for other people to read can only be learned after one has learned to write code.
Magical Thinking/Limited Cognitive Empathy: The most common and most direct cause of this phenomenon â the refusal to help others read your unreadable code â is not the unreadable code itself. It is the belief that it should be easy for experienced programmers to understand the structure of and intent behind a piece of code, even if the person who wrote it didn't. If you see software as basically magic, and don't see computers as soulless automatons that do what they do because they are built that way, then this is an easy trap to fall into.
A variant of this works for language. If somebody is bad at English, or bad at the technical jargon needed to ask his question, he will often think that the question he thought up in his native Klingon was perfectly well-formed, and that other people should have no trouble reading his words, because they also think in Klingon, so they would translate it into a question that makes sense anyway.
Status-Consciousness: Many beginner programmers feel the desperate need to distinguish themselves from other beginners, and if they have been learning JavaScript for two months now, they want to be seen as real programmers, not as children who play with Scratch and build Redstone contraptions in MineCraft. They want to be taken seriously. This reminds me of a five year old boy who stretches out his arm and tells me he is THIS BIG, and he is already FIVE, going on SIX, and he will go to SCHOOL soon.
Naive Mental Model of De-Bugging: Every program has a certain number of discrete features bugs, and when you remove all bugs, you end up with a program that works. This is of course nonsense. You can write a program that has an indeterminate number of bugs, or a program that implements an algorithm that doesn't quite work, or a useless program, or a program that does random nonsense.
With any luck, sooner or later, programmers will learn the technical side, and the social and collaborative side of software development.
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RP GET TO KNOW YOU QUESTIONNAIRE.
NAME?: Arlo
PRONOUNS?: they/them
MOST ACTIVE MUSES?: Niamh, usually! My inspiration for my other muses varies, depending on my hyperfixations at the moment lol.
RPG CLASS I'D BE: Probably a druid, I'd love to be able to turn into all sorts of animals.
FAVORITE COLOR: Green!
FAVORITE TYPE OF THREAD: I love character development and watching how muses' relationships develop.
FAVORITE THING ABOUT MY MUSE: I love Niamh's kindness and her perseverance. She's gone through so much, but still makes the conscious choice to be kind to others. (Also, her hair, I'm so jealous of her pretty curls.)
HOW YOU LIKE TO RP: I like both tumblr and discord! Discord feels less stressful to me, but I do like having everything on a blog to keep.
FAVORITE PLOTS: It's no secret that I love shipping and romance. I'm a sucker for them. I also love angsty plots, though, romantic or not.
WHERE YOU GET YOUR INSPIRATION FROM: Music and books! Especially music. I love listening to music while I work on replies and matching the vibe of the playlist to the vibe of the thread.
FACT ABOUT YOU: I'm deaf! I have moderate hearing loss and am supposed to wear hearing aids (but mine finally died, so I need to get a new pair). I still have some hearing in both of my ears, but I often struggle with understanding people. I describe it as it being like I'm holding my hands over my ears constantly, where everything sounds muffled.
(I stole this from the dash hehehehe)
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TOLKIEN: God what's your problem now
TOLKIEN: So what if he has only twenty followers?
TOLKIEN: It is not that deep
CRAIG: Omg not you assuming that this is about his follower account
CRAIG: It is LITERALLY not about that
TOLKIEN: Then what is it about?
CRAIG: He was in like
CRAIG: All of my classes
CRAIG: It's giving stalker
TOLKIEN: So what?
TOLKIEN: That's how scheduling works
TOLKIEN: Maybe this is fate like
TOLKIEN: Saying this guy is supposed to be friends with you?
TOLKIEN: I don't know!
CRAIG: Omggggg it's giving fortune teller, slayyyyy
CRAIG: But maybe ur right
CRAIG: Tho idk
CRAIG: He just gives me off vibes
CRAIG: Like Dahmer or something.
TOLKIEN: Are you implying he might be a demon?
CRAIG: Yeah, what else would I be implying?
CRAIG: That I'm trying to rizz him up??
CRAIG: Ew
CRAIG: I'm dead
CRAIG: I am
CRAIG: Deceased
TOLKIEN: I fucking hate you
CRAIG: I love you too bbg
CLYDE: Back off!!
CLYDE: MY KITTEN!!
CLYDE: Ggrr⊠>:(
TOLKIEN: Clyde, this isnât discord-
CLYDE: âŠ
CLYDE: âŠ.Oh
CLYDE: (HISS)
CRAIG: OMG EW
CRAIG: Get away from me with your discord moderating ass!!!
CLYDE: (Growls)
CRAIG: EWWWWWUHHHH
TOLKIEN: ( Keep going, hun, maybe heâll finally leave )
CRAIG: That kid was like
CRAIG: Weird as fuck
CRAIG: He probably smells or somethi-
CRAIG: (fake ass voice) Ohmigod Heyyyyyyy!
TWEEK: I heard you talking shit about me
TWEEK: Not cool, dude

TWEEK: I just got here and you already want drama
TWEEK: And you know what?
TWEEK: Youâre the biggest fucking asshole I've ever met
TWEEK: You literally talk shit about people who give you a bad feeling because deep down YOU know you're insecure
TWEEK: Youâre probably lying about the millions and millions of viewers you have you little shit
TWEEK: They're probably either bots or desperate sticky iPad kids who have too much fucking free time
TWEEK: You DESERVE all the hate you're getting right now
TWEEK: You dont know when to stop and leave someone alone.
TWEEK: One of my best friends is LOCKED in his ROOM because of your two tone google chrome metro phone yeezy breezy lemon squeezy supreme krispy creme looking ass!
TWEEK: You are a SHITTY person and let's not lie here
TWEEK: Your content SUCKS

TWEEK: It's so basic and âtrendyâ it makes you look bad
TWEEK: It makes you look worse, in fact
TWEEK: Oh and your Grimace Shake video? FLOP.Â
TWEEK: You can't even fucking DANCE
TWEEK: Getting those piercings to LOOK like an edgy emo but really, it makes you look like you have a stupid reverse smiley face or a goddamn death wish

TWEEK: GOD you're just- RRRRGGGGGGHHHH!!!!
CRAIG: âŠ.
TWEEK: I've never met anyone as INSUFFERABLE and DOUCHEY as YOU ARE
TWEEK: Everytime I'm near you I just want to SHAKE AND STRANGLE YOU
TOLKIEN: Oh my god
TOLKIEN: You're saying everything that I'm thinking right now
CLYDE: PREACH PREACH PREACH
TWEEK: GRAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
TWEEK: ( angry feet stomping )
CRAIG: This bitch crazy
CRAIG: Like the video if you agree
TWEEK: WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN???
CLYDE: âŠHey
CLYDE: Hey uh
CLYDE: Do you wanna like
CLYDE: Do you
CLYDE: Do you wanna like
CLYDE: Sit
CLYDE: Here???
CLYDE: Maybe???
TOLKIEN: Yeah, you seem cool
TWEEK: UhhâŠ. sure????Â
TWEEK: As long as I don't have to sit next to this supreme covered, blue balled, narcissistic prick
(EDITS AND GRIMACE SHAKE VIDEO DRAWING MADE BY @pissblanket <333 )
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We need to talk about the mods for the Queerward Discord server.
Now, let me premise this by saying: I understand that moderating a server of hundreds of people from around the world with differing identities is difficult. Iâm grateful I havenât had that experience. Further, I consider myself friendly with several of the mods. I donât think I could call most of them âfriendsâ properly, but I do care about their wellbeing and I know that they are in a difficult position.
However, that does not justify the bullying and abuse of power I have seen and heard of from my friends, and I can no longer sit quietly by while these same people continue to have that power, limited as it may be in the grand scheme of things.
I have no receipts, both because I was never planning on making a âcall-out postâ and because I am choosing to protect, as much as possible, the identities of my friends who have been hurt at the hands of the mods, so you may choose to take what I have to say with a grain of salt, and thatâs understandable. But I have to say SOMETHING.
I left the server in April after an incident where a friend with religious trauma (who is still a member of the Church) requested a trigger warning around the phrase âthink celestialâ and the celestial kingdom in certain spaces. As a queer member of the Church, they have been harmed repeatedly by these phrases. To my understanding, one of the mods was upset by this, so several of them argued with this friend as well as anyone who stood up for them, citing that itâs not fair to put a trigger warning on those things because theyâre âessential parts of our religion.â Keeping in mind that this is supposed to be a safe space for people of all relationships with the church, from exmo to convert and everywhere in between. While it is a core belief of the church, it also hurts a lot of people, even people still in the church. I left the server that day.
There have been other incidents, both before and after this. A friend who is a survivor of child abuse stated an opinion about how children are treated in the United States. They were attacked for that opinion by several people, including a mod, and then suspended for reminding another friend that they are a survivor of child abuse, and this very directly affected them. Now, I wonât disagree that the way they stated this reminder could loosely have been perceived as a threat, if you squint, but since they had just been attacked for their opinion and were defending themself, I donât think itâs fair that they were the only one suspended for this incident. In fact, I donât think they should have been suspended at all.
And letâs not forget âthe box.â Itâs a specific channel that people who are âin troubleâ but donât need to be muted, suspended, or banned get sent to so that the mods can gang up on them while they have no friends or support. I donât remember what the channel is called, because fortunately I was too meek and quiet to ever end up there, but Iâve seen multiple friends who were sent there.
We can also discuss the way the mods contribute to purity culture. Despite the fact that there are adult-only channels, talking about kink, even from an educational and safety standpoint, can get you in troubleâand the more intense the kink, the more likely you are to get in trouble. (Did we forget that kink belongs at pride?) Because despite being a place for people with all sorts of relationships to the Church, I guess the fact that itâs primarily Church members means no one needs safe access to kink education? Other sex ed is fine, to a degree; thereâs even a specific channel for it. But kink? Heaven forbid!
And the condescending way certain mods will interact with you even when you accidentally break the rules and immediately correct yourself (this one happened directly to me) is incredibly concerning to me. I genuinely think some of the mods are on a power trip.
Iâve also seen instances of ableism, particularly against people with disorders caused by complex childhood trauma (cluster B, dissociative disorders, etc.). I guess some disabilities just arenât acceptable (sarcasm).
All this to say: they have a hard job, but some of them are bullies who donât deserve to be mods. I have seen friends with particularly strong tendencies toward rejection sensitivity who have a literal trauma response caused by the Queerward moderation techniques. That is so beyond unacceptable.
If you love the Queerward server, or if you ARE a mod over there, thatâs great, but you should also be aware that there are problems. People are getting hurt by the very people who are supposed to protect them. And I think that goes against what Queerward is supposed to stand for.
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Yknow what. I do hate them. The more I think about what happened the more I can't stop myself from hating them! And guess what? It's the same one from this post!
How am I supposed to like someone that:
Completely cut off a 15 year old from their entire friend group
Made them look like a manipulative asshole to a server of 100 people with some "warning announcement"
DIDN'T EVEN TELL ANYONE THEY QUIT (They were the OWNER btw yet didn't think it was important to tell anyone they were gone??) AND INSTEAD MADE IT LOOK LIKE THEY GOT BANNED! They quit an entire week before that and nobody knew!
Had the audacity to say they weren't vilifying my friend when in the same damn paragraph they said AND I QUOTE: "If you are contacted by them please notify an adult moderator" Not "If they contact you about the situation" No. If they contacted any of their friends AT ALL.
When approached about it said they would "hold themselves accountable" but didn't do jackshit to actually fix what they said for MONTHS
When approached again BECAUSE they weren't doing anything to fix it, all they had to say was "I'm not going to stop you from contacting the others" ...THEY CAN'T DO THAT THOUGH! YOU MADE THEM LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE ASSHOLE! How can anyone possibly think that after completely ruining someone's reputation with their friends that those friends are going to hear out the one that got villainized!? They sure as hell didn't when not a single one ever checked up on them for the past four months! Hell some of them even BLOCKED my friend because of this! I'M THE ONE WHO HAD TO COMFORT THEM! I'M THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY MADE SURE THEY WERE OKAY! Everyone else had their support and friends BUT JAY HAD NOTHING! FOR MONTHS! AND THEY STILL JUST HAVE THREE PEOPLE!
After being told by the person who yknow CREATED THE DAMN SEVER that they were uncomfortable with them keeping it cause it was a reminder that none of their friends gave enough of a shit to even check up on them (not their actual reason I'm just really mad about that) they just made excuses and said my friend's apology wasn't sincere cause they were "making demands" ...I don't know about you guys but if I made someone a gift and they used it to cut me off from all my friends YEAH I'D WANT TO GET RID OF IT TOO! Besides it's a discord server. They have people that can easily make them a new one! It's not that hard to make a new one, give everyone the invite, wait two to three weeks, then delete the old server after everyone transferred! But no. Keep the one the friend you screwed over made. Sure.
At this point I don't care if Jay doesn't hate them. I do. I hate them for making my friend paranoid that I'll ditch them too. Making them constantly question if they're a good person. You know how heartbreaking it is to have your friend constantly ask if they're "annoying" you or always asking you if you're mad at them!? Having to hear them say they're used to this shit!? It's awful! I hate it! I hate them!
All because they're a 15 year old who was given (admittedly flimsy) evidence of another member doing something possibly illegal and acted out about it. Yeah no shit they would. THEY ARE 15. You treat them like some dumb kid but when they actually do something a dumb kid would do (not that I'm calling my friend dumb) THIS is the response!? Didn't even try to guide them in the right direction! Didn't even try EXPLAINING why that was dangerous! Someone else had to! Nope just complete isolation and they just have to figure it out. Yes what they did was irrational and wrong, yes they at least deserved a punishment for it (and they acknowledged that), but cutting them off from their entire support group was not the appropriate punishment for that. And you know what? They weren't even going to know they were cut off IF IT WASN'T FOR ME! I had to tell them! And I'm terrified to think of what could've happened to my friend if I wasn't there.
I don't care how long this has been going on for. It's not dragging it if it's still affecting my friend RIGHT NOW.
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I'll redesign the star twins in the future for some species swap au with Jay and the Devil's Train designs of the twins can just rot away for now.
I tried so hard not to hate them. I came up with so many excuses to not hate them. But I do.
It was fun while it lasted. And for what it's worth just because I'm mad at the ones in charge doesn't mean I hate everyone else in that server. They had nothing to do with it anyways. I'm just a little mad that nobody ever checked up on Jay. But that's not really their fault either is it?
And just because I said all of this doesn't mean go tell Kiwi to die or send a whole hate parade or anything crazy. I'd rather you guys not do anything to them really. They have their reasons for what they did and I have my reasons for not liking it. Not everyone has to like eachother. Not everyone has to be friends.
I'm sorry if I freaked you guys out with how angry I got here.
[BLANK liked your video!]
It was a video about the problem THEY WERE ALSO VERY MUCH RESPONSIBLE FOR.
[Weeks later]
Gets a video on my fyp about being right that someone is a piece of shit.
âHa yeah love when that happens!â
Looks down.
[BLANK reposted!]
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I love having one sided beef with someone who has no idea how much they piss me off. The worst part is I donât even hate the bitch! (And I say bitch not as an insult here) They just make me SO angry!
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Wed 2 June â21
Louis sent a message to a fan looking for a hello after a major surgery-- âGet well soon mate. Sending you loads of love xâ- and added that he hopes ALL of us are doing alright; I never doubted it Louis! Niall got a little more specific with his really lovely message today- âHAPPY PRIDE MONTH, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE. Itâs your life, LOVE who you want to LOVE,â he tweeted! THANKS GUYS.
Liam though, Liam was all over today! He checked in on his way to play golf, on his way back from playing golf (with videographer Conor!), posted comments on discord, joined a new chat platform (Telegram; 5 minutes into Telegram and chill Liam was like OKAY it looks like we may need some moderators for this app lol YOU THINK?), he did a whole 25 min live, AND checked in even later to say heâd just had a shower and was about to play a new video game! New news of the day-- he is going to host a Veeps show showcasing new artists in July!! NEAT! His post about how his team forgot to turn off notifications on the phone they set it all up on for him on is really funny, YIKES; âthis used to be an iphone now itâs just a bellâ he joked, with video of the phone frantically chiming nonstop (âthe power of you guys still blows my mind to this dayâ.) Also he said that he was very busy getting ready for June 15. Why, you ask, what is on June 15? UH? IDK?? He has so many things coming up? But thatâs the NFT I think, which I KNOW a lot of people are mostly not that excited about but I will say that while I donât care about the technology, I am excited to see Liamâs artwork heâs working on for it (which hopefully the purchaser will share with us), and Liam is truly so excited about the platform, heâs really trying to talk us into it. More on that in a sec...
But letâs get to the other parts of Liamâs live first. He has that new song coming, about which he said âitâs one that Iâve written the most on so far actually, as a single, Iâm excited to say my own stuff for once a littleâ, love that. Heâs still coughing but says heâs tested repeatedly and it isnât COVID, and that heâs gone vegetarian recently, and he says the chat channels were inspired by seeing people using the veeps chat rooms even after the show ended, not wanting to leave. And he talks about 1D- about the notifs mishap he said âback in the band we used to wait for people we didnât like to leave their notifications on and then we would like- oh make sure you follow this person on twitter! And then their phone would break for days- if someone did something that annoyed you.â HAHAHA whereâs my masterpost of people who annoyed them 1D told us to follow, PLEASE? And also âitâs hard sometimes youâre watching people stories from afar that you used to know so well and that can be difficult⊠weâve all felt this at different times me and the boys⊠itâs almost like missing a very dear friend a lot of the time but everyoneâs so busy⊠Iâd love to get us all in a room somewhere sometimeâ aww. But also he said he talked to Harry recently, âreally a lovely call, he has a sixth sense for if I'm struggling or if one of us is in trouble, I spoke to him and it was a really lovely catch up. I have a lot of love for the man, he's really, really great"; well I wish Liam wasnât stuggling but thatâs lovely. And Louis too! "I spoke to Louis, I wanna say yesterday. We speak a lot, there's just a lot of laughing about random crap," he said, plus some Louis memories- âI can just hear his laugh in the back of my mind. We once broke into one of the stadiums in America and got chased by a woman⊠on one of those cop type things, a mall cop thing, and that was quite crazy. He also left me on my own while I was being arrested nearly by a French policemen that I had to push over⊠which that still scares me to this day. [laughing] Thatâs what friends are for! I helped him over the fence to get in somewhere, he left me with the policeman, who didnât have a clue who I was and tried to arrest me even though I was just trying to go into my hotel.â UMM sorry I canât hear anything past LIAM PUSHED OVER A COP?? Go ahead, make a list of â1D members most likely to fight a copâ and if Liam isnât DEAD LAST youâre just wrong and yet HERE WE ARE!! WHAT A DAY.
But alas rather than fighting cops now Liam is partnering with an entrepreneur (which I have had to type so many times in the last two days thanks to Liam that I guess I know how to spell it now they just keep SAYING it SO MUCH). Steve Bartlett said âthe secretâ is out, he recorded a podcast with Liam yesterday-- Iâd call secret a bit strong, we had actually got that mate, but okay; he called Liam an entrepreneur and said âyesterday I recorded one of the most powerful, honest, REAL conversations on my podcast to dateâ and âif you love Liam youâll love this.â I can absolutely guarantee you that is not true, I love Liam and already hate everything about this collab, but his wording does make me think weâll get a bit of Liamâs trademark emotional spillage which I suppose I might appreciate despite this self help CEO guy being there too. Liam does have one thing to say that could sway me in this guyâs favor though- âhe has the cutest dog everâ apparently! Anyway I may as well get used to him heâs suddenly everywhere-- Liam also patched him into his live to try yet again to convince us that NFTs are good by awkwardly relating it to âfans of boybandsâ by saying you know this could eliminate like fake tickets and such⊠Sure Steve sure but anyway he also says of Liam, âthe guy you see on camera is the exact same guy off cameraâ.
Harry and Olivia were seen together in London (well, a grainy ass video of their backs was seen anyway), walking, with some people who look to be her parents and Harryâs PA (so romantic! Not at all work related!) I was initially skeptical of the claim that it was her parents since this fandom is obsessed with saying everyone is so and soâs parents (weâll NEVER top the time the fandom was sure Harry was seen having lunch with Eleanorâs father though) but it actually seems like maybe it was. More for Harry to add to his collection, that man truly loves an extended family! I mean the whole thing is sketchy as hell, from the assurance that thatâs DEFINITELY actually Olivia in the grainy video, FOR SURE, to the confirmation that thatâs her mom with them which came when a blank insta page produced a random old picture of her mom in the same skirt, but like is it them, sure I imagine so, and people making sure we get the story anytime theyâre together isnât exactly new. In other news, Dave Meyers, director of the Adore You music video, says he originally pitched the Eroda story idea (âI have this idea, of you love- liking a fishâ) to Katy Perry and the Black Eyed Peas, ASJKJASKL CAN YOU IMAGINE?
#Liam payne#holivia#harry styles#niall horan#louis tomlinson#2 jun 21#the day we learned Liam fought a cop#HAPPY PRIDE INDEED#conor butler#liam has ALWAYS just spoken to louis yesterday but I totally belive him look at them doing all the same stuff#new artist showcase! this is totally them talking about this stuff#and he's totally the one that got Louis on the NFT thing#that's cute you guys now write some songs together again why don't you#I guess Harry could be tie for least likely to fight a cop#but like he wouldn't be out there talking about how great cops are which Liam definitely would#Liam is of course Most likely to be wasted enough for something like that to happen anyway#which I assume is what was the case
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My apologies, but keep scrolling if drama annoys you. This is the last time I will be addressing this topic. All future asks will be immediately blocked as this set were. I will not respond to this bullshit anymore. This will stop. Right now.



This is abusive. It is textbook narcissism. Encyclopedic gaslighting. The back and forth between âwe might be wrong, but you apologize,â the transactional âI want something, so you owe it to me,â the use of generic nicknames to inspire risk-free closeness that might manipulate me, and then âyouâre nothing specialâ. Itâs been four months, and youâre still this absurdly obsessed, but Iâm supposed to bend to that? Abhorrent.
My discord server was meant to be a free space for people to come together, who had a commitment to being kind. âKindâ means trying very hard to accept and understand each other and be mindful at all times that others have their challenges. It means rising above pettiness, rudeness, judgemental behavior. I made this clear time and again. I made it clear the very hour I deleted the server.
I deleted it for very good reasons, all of which centered on the fact that it became clear to me this goal was impossible, with the group that had formed (as youâve made quite clear with your behavior). Not only did we have cliques and secret rooms some people didnât even know existed, there was rudeness on a constant basis, moments I had to correct behavior as if I were a parent, and infiltration by someone I discovered was unsafe. I deleted the server to protect everyone from everyone else in the group, and I said as much at the time. I could have rebuilt it any moment, but immediately after I shut it down--with warning-- I was so harassed, cussed out, belittled, insulted, and disparaged by people I thought were friends who would absolutely support my decision, that it shocked me. Or it would have, were I not accustomed to such behavior, and had not seen the warning signs appearing for several weeks.
Of that group who decided not to keep my company anymore? No one bothered to ask me what happened or why I deleted the server. None of them came to my DMs and asked what happened. It was again up to me to be the mature one, and offer an explanation, which I did on three separate occasions. No one asked me what I was experiencing. No one asked me if I knew what the infiltrator had said, or if I knew of their interests, or indeed if what they were saying about me was true, when they claimed we had some sort of relationship.
Why? They didnât actually care. It was an opportunity to fall back into old patterns. A chance to prove that their experiences of people would prove out, and for the narcissists? A slight to their ego and self-esteem that was like a slap in the face. One that needed to be responded to with an assault. After knowing me that long, and defending my character for that long, they instantly chose to believe a complete stranger they found âcreepy,â who would go on to harass three people and have the police called on them two separate times. Did their opinion change when they found out this occurred, and that perhaps I was right to delete all the personal information they had left in the server? No. Instead it was lies about everything to do with me that they used to justify their behavior. Lies that were shopped around, literally taken to people who knew me, and shoved down their throats so that theyâd distance themselves from meâagain, textbook abuse. Lies about supposed cultism. No one in my discord or anywhere else has ever been asked to do anything but be kind. I have never used coercion. Yet people who had spent all the previous months telling the world it was a good place to be, some of whom had moderating powers they could have used, immediately began talking about how intimidating I am. My âkick first, ask questions laterâ rule for their benefit was too harsh...not harsh enough? Which is it?
All I ever asked was that people treat me like a normal person, because I am a normal person. I asked those who said they wanted to be friends to be just that: friends.
The last thing we did, organized as a group was to make pompoms out of yarn as a âget wellâ for someone, to cheer them up. Who was that person? Another person who lied about me with a bold face. I got to send one box of pompoms before everything occurred. The rest sit in my storage collecting dust. What was our last activity together as a server? I think it was a game of Cards Against Humanity. How nefarious. I have done my best to offer support, friendship, a kind ear, advice, and concern for health and safety. I told them how to protect themselves from abuse. I was safe enough to tell dark secrets, safe enough to give an address, safe enough to discuss feelings/dreams/fears/existential dread etc. Essentially, I was safe enoughâŠwhile I was willing to give things to them. My time, my ear, my compassion, my platform, my money, my references and so on. I was safe while I put out.
If anything, Iâve been too permissive and accepting of my own boundaries being crossed. And the moment, the very instant I put my foot down? Out came the abuse. The very moment I said, this is ending, I was called all the things that every single one of them is sure ought to hurt me, because it is the antithesis of everything that I am. But it isnât just that. They also abused, demeaned, and otherwise were offensively rude to the people who defended me, who said ânow hang on a minute, this doesnât make sense,â or who just didnât accept what they were saying, because they knew that isnât who I am.
I donât want anything to do with any of these people who decided it was in their best interests to play victim and throw a tantrum over a server. I have no sympathy for anyone who trades what we were aiming to build, for a conclave of this crap, as seen above. I have absolutely zero compassion for people who react with such patently childish and manipulative behavior. I have a complete lack of any sort of feeling toward people who aimâŠaim to hurt me and then enact a plan to do so. You mark my words: youâll do the same thing to each other, except there will be no one around to say âThatâs not proper behavior and you know it.â
So anon, or anons, or whoever: Youâre right, Iâm not special. Never claimed to be. Different? Yes. Special? No. Yes, you overreacted. No, I donât owe you an apology, because I already gave one for the things I actually did. I canât help it if you didnât read my ârantâ because youâd rather not engage with the truth or my feelings. This is the last time I will say one damn word to any of you. Instead of asking what Iâll do if you apologize, try actually apologizing, and do it while while wearing a name. That way if I say âI hear you, but you are not forgivenâ you can learn a valuable lesson: that no one owes you forgiveness and if you truly feel badly for what youâve done, you donât require it in order to change. And finally, I hope you find happiness, true completeness and self-esteem. I hope you become the best version of you, but I will not be a part of that journey, and thatâs a shame.
TL;DR Have a nice life.
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Iâm starting to get scared of joining new social media communities...
Because so often lately Iâve gotten into arguments or even gotten outright banned for the most random of reasons...
For example a month or two ago I got muted by a Twitch Streamer who went on to go on a huge rant was after I made a pokĂ©mon joke that wasnât 100% accurate, and then muted me when I asked him to just drop it and continued to rant about how I âthrew a tantrumâ... He actually invited me back to his Discord Server so long as I promised not to âthrow a tantrumâ like that again... Needless to say I did not go back...
Even more months ago another content creator outright banned me from his Discord server because I asked for a fanart channel...yes really. (I mean there was a bit more to it, but the reasons he gave was basically the opposite of what I actually said, that I threatened to âbother himâ about it or even create one without his permission if I got a moderator position...which were the two things I specifically said I WOULDNâT do.)Â
Then just a couple of days ago I joined another Discord Server, it seemed nice...but the users were a bit too fond of pinging me for any reason... I asked them not to, a couple of times because it happened a couple of times... and most of the users were okay with that and just moved on... But a moderator and an admin spent the whole darn day telling me I was rude long after I had already resolved the issue myself (by just changing my username). Ironically the server has a rule against arguing with the moderators, but no rule against moderators spending several hours arguing with you when all I was doing was asking them to stop...Â
Is it me thatâs the problem?
I get that I can be blunt a few times, but even apologies donât seem to help in these cases... I donât know what people want from me. I donât belive I was wrong. But people wonât even give me a chance to explain myself, or in the latter case theyâll just keep repeating that I was rude for literal hours...Â
I donât want to start arguments... So why do people keep starting them with me?? Or just ban me with no warning...Â
What am I doing wrong? What am I supposed to do when an apology isnât enough?
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As fun as the events and ideas you posted about 19days would be, wouldnât it also just bring in more negative stuff - like fandom in general has become a field of land mines and I fear that something thatâs supposed to fun will turn into some sort of battle. Like how some people get extremely heated over any other ships outside of their fave ship and they cannot possibly have other ships except theirs, etc. The last thing anyone wants is for content creators to be targeted simply for making something they thought would be fun
(This ask and answer is about this post.)
First of all thank you so much for addressing such a big and valid concern. I agree that that has indeed happened in certain fandoms - I can say I've been in the thick of it and witnessed quite the warfare - but in others it has also brought fans and readers and content creators together even closer and tighter in a wonderful thriving community.
I have the feeling this'll get quite long so please proceed under the cut with that in mind.
I believe all things are potential harbingers of both discord and harmony. There will always be people who feel entitled and who want - even demand! the audacity! - authors and artists to create for their ships and their ships alone. And there will also always be people who can appreciate the writing and the art without judgemental treatment regarding the pairings/characters depicted, no matter their preferences.
All of that happens and will continue to happen, whether we go forward with these events or not. And yet authors will still write what they want to write, artists will still draw what they want to draw, graphic designers will still make the edits they want to make as well. What we could do, in this small and close knit fandom, is take in our hands this powerful rich opportunity and try our best to make a model of positivity out of it.
In these events, there would be no bashing or shaming allowed. The content created would be to be enjoyed by those who are attracted to it, and those who do not have a taste for that fanwork in particular would be asked to remain respectful. (As it should always be.) There would be no ship wars in these spaces. Discourse, hate-speech or anti-behaviour would not be tolerated by the moderators of the event.
Creators who indulged in it would be immediately disqualified. Any unnecessary commentary or complaints from the audience would be deleted and reported as spam. Anyone instigating conflict would be only painting a target on their back, really. Because most of us - I dare say - are only here to appreciate the brilliant artwork and fanfiction woven and crafted by the talented people who share it with us.
If it came to it and it escalated, this hellsite has several tools that can be put to use to that regard. Accounts could be blocked and/or even reported. They wouldn't be able to interact with the blogs created to run these events from then on. We would be able to create a black list and post it publicly so everyone else who wished to could simply block those unruly pesky accounts and remain at peace and free to enjoy themselves to their utmost.
Let us not forget that this is all fiction and it's all for fun. Everyone's allowed to have their own opinion, likes and dislikes. There simply is no need to step on anyone else and their interests to elevate them.
Let's exemplify, for the sake of clarity:
Do I personally ship A with B? Imagine I do not. I do not search for it. If I come across it? I scroll past it. Once or twice, I may even like - and even reblog - if it happens to catch my attention and it's well written/drawn! (I have tags along the lines of 'I don't ship it but' and 'look at this beautiful art' or 'drown in the power of these words.')
It's so easy to interact amongst ourselves without coming with pitchforks at one another. Know what actually needs effort? Being a meanie and a party popper! Who in their right mind wastes their time on things they don't care for? Dum dums, that's who! Of course, we're all dummies at times... and that's okay! Let's just not harass people or crash their fun while we're at it!
If nothing else: you wouldn't like if others did this or that to you, therefore don't do it to others. It's a simple concept to grasp.
Very important: in these events, every single piece would be explicitly and properly tagged and warned for right at the very top of each post, so there would be absolutely no excuses for anyone being nasty.
We would just have to be open to the experience. Enjoy our ships and let other enjoy theirs. We do not have to all like the same thing. That would be just boring. But we can cohabitate devoid of trouble in fandom. Each one of us just has to be respectful. No need to even be nice. No one has to compliment something they don't like. They also don't have to step on what others do.
Don't like a ship/character/theme? Don't read stories focused on it. Don't put down authors who write it or readers who enjoy it. Same for art. No need to shout about how awful it is just for the simple reason that it does not fit into your personal shipping preferences. It can still be still be a tasty and wonderfully baked cake, it's just that you're not fond of vanilla or strawberries. It's okay. There are all kinds of cake for everyone's tastes!
Further examples: If a ship happens to be a NOTP for me or I don't care for the character(s)? I filter the tags. All of them. Any and every tag I can think of. It's very easy to protect ourselves on Tumblr from content we do not wish to see. (My own list is huge and just as effective.) Filtering is incredibly important.
So go ahead and filter out the ships you can do without! Filter out porte-manteaux like Tianshan, Zhanyi, Qiucheng, Tianxi, Tianyi, Lishan, Litian, Liyi, Shantou, Polydays, (...) Filter out any ship tag that doesn't strike your fancy like Q x MGS, HC x JY's mom, (...) Filter out characters that aren't your cuppa tea like HT, HT's dad, SL, JY's mom, XH, (...)
Make it safe for yourself and for others. That way you won't rage at the sight of your NOTP, won't feel the compulsive need to trash the people who ship it, no one is hurt and everyone is happy!
There are many steps we could follow to prevent rotten eggs in our coop. And many more actions we could take to throw them out if need be. I firmly believe, however, that if we're all of the same mind everything would go well and with very few bumps along the way.
If we only ever feared the possible negative consequences of our actions, never taking the risk for the possible positive ones, we'd never get anything done. I say let's not let our beloved fandom stagnate or dry out. Let's incentivate and motivate and inspire! Let's share! Let's have fun!
Think of it in these terms: it wouldn't be a competition at all but rather a charity event. Performers and spectators coming together for a common good, raising content and spreading joy! There would be no winners or losers or prizes. What would matter would be good old-fashioned participation, both by providing content and/or consuming it.
It could also a good way to get people to express themselves more. Many content consumers tend to lurk or keep to themselves even if they like the content posts. (I used to be one myself and only a couple months ago started to come out of my shell.) I myself advocate for reblogging instead of liking - if you have to choose one or the other, I mean, why not do both? - and leaving a word on every single post I like and/or reblog. Sometimes I go nuts commenting, sometimes I leave a small note in the tags.
It doesn't matter how. Even if you're shy or introverted (*raises hand*) or don't know what to say I guarantee a single emoticon or a string of disordered letters symbolising incoherence will make the creator's day all the same. Getting feedback is so important and motivational for creators and also a great way for fandom members to keep in touch and support each other.
Additionally, if a person would like more of a certain type of content here are some healthy actions they could take: a) commission a creator and pay for it if they can; b) politely make a suggestion to a creator with an open ask box; c) post a prompt publicly for possible interested creators to use; d) do it yourself and share it with others!
This turned out into more of a "behavioural guidelines" thing than I'd have liked. I am not in any way whatsoever telling anyone what to do. This is what I do, and it works wonders for me. I stay completely out of toxic arguments and in on all the goodies. I'm able to fully enjoy my fandoms. And isn't that what we all want?
Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me. And I apologise for the long rant!
Of course, this is only my personal stance on the issue. I did go for a survey first exactly for this end, to get their opinions on the subject and see if it would be worth a shot. I shall hope many other people will think as I do, but I will wholly respect those who don't.
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My love has left tumblr once again.
As many of you may know, the account under the name MDZADR, has left tumblr. They felt unsafe in their fandom, and as such have deleted their tumblr and AO3 account due to the bad memories linked to them.
As a part of their departure, they have asked me to post something in their name, as follows.
If you want more details about how I came to this realization, continue to read. If not, here is your summary:
TL;DR: For the safety and health of this fandom, I wanted to spread the word that Mooping-10 is filled with people who absolutely cannot be trusted, creating a very hazardous environment for the zadr community, and MelodyoftheVoid is connected to all of those people, living a double life amongst those of us that donât âship zadr correctly.â She has plenty of friends her inner circle knows nothing about, and nobody on either side knows who she really is.Â
Full story below.
Iâm sorry I didnât say goodbye. Nobody did anything to me today, but this just wasnât worth it.
My AO3 and tumblr are both gone. I didnât say goodbye because I didnât want to look like an attention seeker.
Hereâs the thing. I wasnât going to name drop, but you guys need to know the truth. Iâm instructing my boyfriend (hi yâall) to turn asks off for his own safety after this because this is going to be a nightmare, but... allow me to tell you the full story. Iâll try to break up the text so itâs less difficult to read, but this is important. Iâm sorry to air discourse so publicly, but please... I need you to listen to me.
Iâll start from the beginning, without being vague anymore about who âsheâ is. I request that you please read the whole thing and not skip parts of it. The whole story matters.
I finally returned to the fandom about two months or so ago. As Iâve mentioned, I donât do well in my thoughts while left alone too long, so I posted saying I would stop messaging people I knew because I didnât want to bother them. There were only two people I was talking to at the time, but one of them is famous so I didnât want to message her directly saying that. Doing so would have put her in a position of feeling obligated to say âyouâre not bothering meâ rather than just simply being able to sigh with relief from no longer being contacted.Â
But the first person to contact me was the famous person, and she asked if I was okay, and told me she liked talking to me.
God, I actually cried.
But, thatâs just her. Melodyofthevoid is the type of person to talk to people in the fandom, totally unaware of her demigod status. She comments on stories, interacts on posts, messages first... a pillar of kindness, so it seemed.
But let the story continue.
Over time, we were talking more often.Â
Mostly sending memes (cause everyone I knew, myself included, arenât exactly great at holding conversations. No shade. Memes are a love language). I was still in the hero worship stage of our relationship, so my view of her was that that was perfect.
Now, let me bridge a connection with a new story idea I got around December 28th or so, and my thinking she was perfect.
I had recently finished watching Madoka and questioned âIf I had magical powers, what would they be?â It then turned into its own story idea, basing creatorsâ powers around the strengths and weaknesses in creations. I actually realized âoh fuck. My stuff is incoherent. My friendsâ works arenât too different...â
Thus spawned the name âIncoherentâ for the project.
What does that have to do with this? Well, hereâs the thing that really fucked everything up quickly.Â
This was not on purpose, because originally the project (which I had told nobody of yet at the time) was all about improving your works, making platonic friends, dressing our personas in cute outfits, and writing fun magic.
While listening to music and thinking of the story one day, my brain accidentally shipped my persona with hers, and I couldnât unsee it. And Iâm lousy at keeping my own secrets (otherâs are different) so she found out on probably day one or two about my weird crush because of an ask meme of all things.Â
She didnât try to put me off any, which was another problem for future things to come, and so I decided that since Incoherent was finally making me feel alive again and feeling the euphoric feelings of love wouldnât hurt anything (I figured theyâd mellow out on their own eventually because thatâs how infatuation works) since they helped fuel my inspiration, and then we would just continue from friends to better friends one day and this part of our lives would be over.
Besides, the forbidden is attractive somehow, and makes stories more entertaining. Sheâs aro/ace, so I had no chance anyway. Someone safe to crush on, in her own way.
This isnât a story of a love betrayal however. There was no such thing. But itâs important to the story because Incoherent is where my mistakes were made, and hers brought to light.
By this time, I had a handful of people I was talking to, and I created a discord server for the project. Only my boyfriend (hi!) and I were in it at the time. I was not-so-subtly asking my friends what theyâd look like if they were a magical person, what their names would be... I thought I would have had to lure Melody in to make her want to join us, but I managed to get her in very easily. Everyone was happy and excited! It was a no obligation, no time limit thing for us to enjoy, a little sandbox to play around in.Â
Sure there were plans to make it bigger and I was working on art to the best of my ability, but it was gonna be a fun thing mostly. No pressure on anyone.
And how things started becoming a problem was that the rest of us posted publicly about the project and interacted with each otherâs posts relating to the story, but she had started to interact publicly less and less with our things, and everyone noticed it.
It wasnât because we were greedy and wanted the popular girl to reblog our things. Itâs because we had a feeling she was ashamed of being seen publicly with us. The reason we were worried before then and started making that connection was because I mentioned I was going to ask another user if they were interested in joining Incoherent. Melody was the only one that seemed uncomfortable, and I messaged her asking about it. We agreed I wouldnât invite that person but I knew things were off about it.
That person is like me. How long until Melody didnât want to talk to me anymore? A few days ago, the other shoe finally dropped. A member of our little group and I were talking and (letâs call them Friend for simplicity. They asked to not be name dropped here) Friend was worried they had made Melody upset by tagging her in a meme picture they drew of her persona, and the two had agreed that Friend remove the tag. This spawned an anxiety-filled conversation where Friend and I expressed our concerns about Melody not interacting with the project, or us.
So since I wanted reassurance that that wasnât the case, I messaged Melody with my concerns. I told her I had the feeling she was ashamed of being seen in public with us because of her friends, and she didnât refute me. She simply told me to go get some rest. I messaged back with âIâm right.â
I deleted Discord off my phone for hours and nearly deleted my Tumblr, AO3, and the server after my boyfriend helped pass messages between us. Melody confessed that was the case because her friends expressed discomfort with my works, and she was playing both sides.
Her words, not mine.
Melody told me she would be withdrawing from the Incoherent project because it wasnât fair to us if her heart wasnât in it.
She didnât stand up on my behalf when they said things about me. Her friends are the type who talk behind creatorsâ backs for shipping zadr âincorrectly.â Worse than antis because they actually participate in the âpro-shippingâ side of the fandom. I broke that day and messaged her at 3 am.
We finally spoke at 3pm. We both missed each other. I tried to understand more. I wanted it to be more like a conversation rather than an interrogation. It was only one-sided however, and she never opened up further. And I made some mistakes and poor choices of words, and we ended up parting ways permanently right there.Â
I nearly deleted everything, but much like a coma patient attached to many machines on a hospital bed, my blog was kept alive a little longer by people sending kind words in droves. I was briefly fuelled by spite, wishing to watch the world burn by making everyone on the "correct" side of the fandom upset by posting the worst, most vile content this fandom has ever seen.
I was also welcomed with open arms by a very kind server with fellow degenerates, all of them screaming and crying and partying when they managed to get me in their server. It was so heartwarming...
But as I spoke to others about my situation, I realized something. A disturbing pattern.
People telling me horror stories about how Mooping-10 was cult-like. How the people running it were antis. I was even told once that they have a secondary server where they go to have their talks and do their work, likely the place where the real bashing is held.
The server itself has rules against such behavior, but I suppose it's different when they do it.
One person (and this is the most unnerving part for me, personally) told me Melody actually set off alarm bells in their head without having even done anything yet, and the most disturbing part of the story was that one of the moderators was afraid and upset because they got Covid, and received basically no moral support at all. Only getting told "spoiler that. Sorry you got Covid".
I was horrified. That server has 100 people in it. How many of them are the same? They act like popular kids in school who picked up an unpopular main character and then bash others, and the main character joined in because they don't want to be left behind by their new "friends".
To put it short, back to my point:
TL;DR: I simply only wanted to spread the word that: Mooping-10 is filled with people who absolutely cannot be trusted, creating a very hazardous environment for the zadr community, and Melodyofthevoid is connected to all of those people, living a double life amongst those of us that don't "ship zadr correctly". She has plenty of friends her inner circle knows nothing about, and nobody on either side knows who she really is.
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HASOÂ âEvidence.â
Still working on the trial arc, and sorry I am late in posting. I had to go to work at seven and am trying to write in between helping guests.Â
CREDIT and a THANK YOU to one of my amazing discord community members Eddi, who has been working for the last few months on the audio visual and transcript logs seen here. I did not write them, Eddi wrote them an was kind enough to let me use them in this story. I loved it and thought it brought a lot of authenticity to the story by bringing in an outside voice.Â
WARNING: GRAPHIC blood, gore, and bodily mutilation. The Steel eye project development is VERY horrible, so donât read if that is something that bothers you.Â
It was a beautiful day.
The sky was a bright eggshell blue stratified with only the occasional cirrus cloud highlighting the sky with a touch of distant white. The sun was bright though the temperature was moderate only in the mid eighties.
Swimmers could be seen as distant pinpoints of light and froth on the surface of lake Geneva. Voices echoed up from the city coerced mostly by the purring of hover-car engines.
Towering white buildings rose high into the sky adding height instead of width to a city that had not grown outside its own borders for the past thousand years other than to go up.
Itw as a more environmentally efficient way to build, and left the countryside untouched by the scars of infrastructure and humanity.
Adam stared out the window for a long moment wishing for the peaceful embrace of the skies and the roaring of a jet engine. A soft whimper at his leg, and he looked down to see Waffles sitting at his heel, her head tilted back to look up at him. WHen he didnât immediately respond to her she whined again and scooted closer, her paws making soft clicking sounds on the wood flooring below.
Finally he reached down and scratched her behind the ears.
She could sense his agitation, and it was clear that she didnât much like it.
He couldnât blame her.
He didnât like it either. He sighed and turned his head away from the do and he window, back to the mirror in front of which he now stood. He didnât see himself.
The man in the mirror was tall, straight backed with sharply trimmed and styled hair, jaw squared and raised. Both eyes were green though one expanded and contracted like the appriture of a camera. The expression on the manâs face was stern and unyielding.
He lookedâŠ. Like his father.
He had never seen much of a resemblance between them, but now he could certainly see it.
It didnât help that the stars on his uniform seemed to add an extra ten years to his age.
With a soft sigh, he pulled his captainâs cap down snuggly onto his head and whistled low for his dog.
She fell into a perfect heel at his side, and he clipped the leash onto her colla.
Her black service vest was strapped on tight with a pair of doggie saddlebags on either side carrying water bottles. Waffles always liked having a job to do, and a little extra work would help to keep her relaxed during the trial rather than antsy.
She was going to have to stay very still for a very long time for the next few days.
âReady girl.â
Her tail thumped against the floor at his voice.
âAt least that makes one of us.â
He transferred her elash to his left end, though he didnât technically need it, and led her out of the bedroom and into the large living room. It was a lot of hotel room for just one man. He would have been fine enough with a double queen personally, but he supposed if the UNSC was paying there was no reason to argue otherwise.
It felt strange, going to a hotel on the UNSCâs Dime to testify against the UNSC in one of the biggest trials of the century.
His stomach churned.
Waffles nosed his hand.
Dr Krill floated down from his examination of the chandelier, âI admire human artistry, but pragmatism is still my preferred way of living.â he motioned around the room, âA bit opulent.â
Adam nodded his agreement, âYou can say that again. I havenât slept on a bed that big in my life.â In all honesty, he was trying to keep his mind off of what was to come. He didnât really care about the bed and certainly didnât know if he had ever slept in a bed that large.
He sort of doubted it, he was in the UNSC after all.
A knock came on the door and he turned reaching for the handle and pulling it open. The driver from yesterday was waiting for him, his suit pristine. He bowed slightly, âThe car is waiting for you, sir.â
He nodded, and motioned the other man to lead the way.
The man nodded and thanked him, stepping down the hall and leading them down into the lobby. They got a lot of looks as they made their way down, most likely because of krill, though his uniform might have caught some attention.
He was led out towards the car and slid into the back seat, suddenly surprised to find that he wasnât alone.
âAdmiral Kelly!â
âGood morning, Adam.â
âWhat are you doing here.â
âI am here to witness the trial. UNSC representatives thought it would be best if some of the newer brass came to oversee proceedings.â
He quickly looked out the window, suddenly remembering which side of the conflict this was on.
A hand rested on his arm, âIâm not here to make you feel bad about your decision, Admiral. Youâre doing what needs to be done.â
He sighed and nodded, âI⊠thank you maâam.â
âYou sure this is something you are ready for.â
He paused and then shook his head, âNo⊠Iâm not ready, and I never will be.â She went to open her mouth but he stopped her, âBut Iâm the only one we have, so I will do what it takes.â
The car went silent as it slowly accelerated into the early morning traffic.
It was going to be a very long day.
Admiral Kelly turned to look at Krill speaking with him quietly while Adam looked out the window.
He wasnât in the mood for talking right now though he knew how odd that was.
His stomach continued to churn as they drove through the streets heading towards the outskirts of the city where the Geneva court had been built just over 200 years ago.
The last buildings on the outskirts of town went by and their first view of the court appeared in the car window. It was made in the classic greco-roman style with large white pillars and sloped rooftop and carvings on the top that depicted all the deities of justice ever conceived by historial religion, all cast and depicted in marble.
The thoroughfare up to the building was long and wide with a decorative reflecting pool at the center and a set of daunting steps leading up to the ornate front doors.
The grounds were meticulously kept with hedges shrub and flowering bushes, with what must have been miles and miles of water features and fountains off to the side.
It was a beautiful location, and it seemed that visitors found it a nice spot to rest while they enjoyed touring the sites.
He didnât see much in the beauty today.
This was the UN supreme court, and the history of Geneva made this place hallowed in ways that made the court case for today all the more poignant.
The car pulled to a stop before the doors and a few gloved attendants stepped forward sharply dressed and opened the doors with almost militaristic precision as Admiral Vir and Admiral Kelly stepped out.
Waffles followed at his heels
He knew as soon as he stepped onto the marble steps that he wanted to leave, an the only thing that kept him there was the memory of those facesâŠ. All the people counting on him back at the house, all the people who had never been given a chance to recover like he had.
He took a deep breath and ford himself up the steps and towards the front doos where a group of people were already congregating.
There were a few reporters there, without cameras, waiting to attend in the audience and record the proceedings for their news stories and daytime television. A few of them snapped discrete photos of him as he passed and was led through the wide double doors into the expansive inner hallway with a beautifully muraled ceiling and a line of decorative plants down the side.
Voices echoed inside the building, rising up around him to bounce off the marble.
The voices themselves were indistinct and difficult to understand as he made his way further into the room.
Men in suits lined the walls.
He eyed them critically wondering if any of them happened to be the defence.
A hand was placed on his shoulder, and he quickly turned to eye another attendant, who had evidently been trying to get his attention, âRight this way sir.â
He nodded and was led through the halls and into a nearby antichamber.
A wand was passed over his body.
âPlease hold out your arm , sir.â
He did as ordered and watched as his forearm implant was temporarily deactivated.Â
âThe room is completely radio proof, sir. No signals go in or out. If you must make a call, I urge you to take it during the court recess.â
âUnderstood.â
âPlease step inside and sit on the second row on the right side behind the prosecution.
He did as ordered, and stepped into another wide curving room.
It was much bigger than he would have thought, two stories high with amphitheater seats, and a massive curving desk at the front where nine Geneva court judges would be seated on their entrance.
There was no jury.
The Geneva court judges would be the jury for trial at this time.
Law practices had changed a lot since world war III but there was still some semblance of the old ways that still lingered on.
He took his seat, waffles grumbling softly as he slid onto the ground beside him.
Two people in suits followed him inside one in a dark blue suit and brown shoes, the other in pinstriped balck.
The one in blue was a woman, dressed sharply, her hair pulled back into a bun so tight you could have strummed out a tune on the hairs. She paused next to Adam and held out a hand, âAdmiral Vir, we spoke over the phone.â
âMs. Trevor.â
She nodded and motioned to the man, âAnd my partner Mr. Jackson. I trust you understand your purpose here today?â
âYes Maâam.â
Jackson lifted his head, âOur case here is solid, admiral. This case isnât about who is going to be punished for what happened, but about how long they will be punished, not to mention it is likely to set up some new legislation for the ethical creation and use of military hardware. Once we are done, something like this is unlikely to ever happen again.â
He wasnât entirely sure he believed that, but he nodded and let them take their seats in the desk before him.
Waffles whimpered and prodded at his hands with her nose.
He stroked a hand over her big pointed ears.
The courtroom filled up within the next hour, and, Looking across the room, he saw a line of men and women sitting on the second row of the defence. Something about them put him on edge.
He had a feeling they were the scientists.
They were the ones who had developed the steel eye armor.
âAll rise! For the honorable Geneva court judges!â
The entire room took to their feet as the nine judges filed out of a back chamber and stepped onto the floor. All of them wore traditional black robes with white collars as had been tradition for nearly thousand of years. They took their seats with a mass shuffling.
âPlease be seated.â
The room shuffled back into place.
The head judge,at the center of the table leaned forward.
âOn this day June 24, 4024 we open the Geneva Court case of The People VS UNSC Biomechanics Division. the court will begin by hearing opening statements from the council.â
Council for the prosecution stood, shuffling her papers once before stepping up to the lectern.
âHonorable judges and members of the court, today we are here to present evidence against a faction of the UNSC scientific division for gross ethical violations, torture, and pruposeful endangerment of human life. Evidence suggests over 29 killed, over 21 critically injured, maimed, or permanently crippled, and over 61 with lasting mental trauma. This is not counting over 50 Steel eye soldiers coerced without prior knowledge, into participation in the program, 30 of which are now deceased 15 of which have lasting mental trauma, and five that, while functional, still feel the effects today. Today we will be presenting, written documents, video recordings, and audio files from prior testing as well as first hand witnesses of both the testing and the war as well as expert witness from the scientist who read and compiled the files before trial. What was done to these men and women constitute as war crimes and their victims deserve compensation and closure for what was done to them.â
She stepped back from the podium and nodded.
The defence stood and made their way to the podium in turn, âYour honors, and members of the court, while it is true that some unfortunate incidents happened during testing and development of the steel eye project, there is ample evidence to prove that none of these men or women were coerced against their will into participation. All subjects were volunteer and duly informed before proceedings began. Furthermore, scientific ethics had not advanced far enough at the time to cover weather or not what they were doing was an ethical violation. The Defence is not asking for complete vindication for the accused, but the sum of what happens is surely less than war crimes.âÂ
They took their seat.
Adam wasnât a lawyer, but he knew which opening statement he liked more. Now maybe he was biased, but certainly he felt that one presented greater amounts of evidence than the other. Of course it was up to the prosecution to show evidence that would convince the judges, beyond a reasonable doubt, that these men and women were guilty.
He listened to some more speaking, half falling asleep and assuming maybe this would be as bad as he thought it would when one of the prosecution stepped back up to the podium.
âThe prosecution presents time stamped dated and logged evidence to the court for consideration. The first testing log we wish to present is from the eighteenth of October 4016 and overseen by Dr. Tato Nkosi written as log number 23.âÂ
Experimental Log #023:
So far we have not experimented with a human subject, All the sample tests and simulations indicate that there should be no interference with normal function nor create any feedback loops that could induce seizures. This is the first human testing that we will be doing. We have noticed that the animal testing resulted in significant irritation and irrational behavour from the subjects, We however suspect this was because they were unawares of the reason for the implantations.
The subject is unconscious for the process of implantation to prevent movement.Â
-recording break-
The subject reacted violently to the implant, removing it in a highly violent manner while screaming and trying to injure any nearby scientists. We expected some level of resistance, but this indicates far more sensitivity than expected. Further testing will be required.
âThe council for the prosecution wishes to present the audio/visual log.â A light flickers on as a video clip begins reeling.
Audiovisual Log Transcript:
The subject wakes suddenly, seeming to be woken by extreme pain. Screaming almost instantly and scrabbling at implant on their hand and wrist. Subject seems to be attempting to remove the implant. One of the scientists attempts to calm the subject only to be beaten by the subject who continues screaming. The scientist retreats from the subject just as the subject finally removes the test implant by ripping it from the subjects skin, tearing with it the subjects local nervous system along with large sections of the subjects musculature and ligaments. Seeming relieved at the lack of contact with the implant, the subject sinks to its knees. The subject is losing significant amount of blood, though we suspect the subject is unaware of this as large sections of the nervous system is still attached to the implant. The subject appears to be in shock as it observes its ruined lower arm and hand. The subject has resumed screaming and is now trying to get the scientists attention to fix its ruined lower arm and hand. The subject is sedated and arm treated. The recording ends here.Â
Adam throws a hand up over his face feeling bile rise into his mouth at the image seared into his brain. Muscle and ligament dangling uselessly against a steel eye prototype. He felt a bit lightheaded but takes a deep breath in and out to calm his breathing. All around the room there are gasps of shock and disgust. A few people stand to leave the room unable to witness any more.â
The council steps forward, âThis was the first log in a recorded series of proceeding logs with similar effects. We know in experimentation that accidents happen all the time, and we might have considered forgiveness if the experimentation had stopped here. Clearly implementation on human test subjects was not ready, as evidenced by the animalâs discomfort. Perhaps if they had stopped here, some measure of understanding might have been allowed. But they continued past this point with full knowledge that this sort of catastrophic event could happen. This test subject will never regain full use of his hand. Instead of stopping the experiment like hey should, the scientists determined that the use of painkillers was in order to make the subject operational. For this the prosecution calls expert witness Dr. Alexander Gladstone to the witness stand.â
On the bench to his side, a man stands slicking back his salt and pepper hair as he moves to sit in the witness stand and is sworn in.
âDr. Gladstone, tell us a little of your credentials.â
âOf course, I received my PHD in Biomechanical interface and Engineering as well as an additional PHD in Mechanised robotics. I have worked as the head scientist for the UNSC testing division for nearly five years now after my predecessor quit. I helped to re-engineer this project under Iron eye as a step forward from the Steel eye project in a more controlled and ethical environment. I am also the scientists who reviewed these logs and compiled them for analysis today.â
âThank you Dr. Now, may I ask why these scientists would have chosen to implement a drug dosage?â
âTo understand why they had to do this, you must also understand the steel eye project itself. Steel eye was designed to enhance the strength, speed and durability of the wearer. We already have exo suits designed for use in factory and industrial settings, however the main issue we run into in a combat setting is that the machine responds too slow. The nodes detect electrical impulses from the muscles and then have to fire following that meaning the subject has already begun moving almost seconds in advance of the machine. Steel eye was created to integrate the machine directly into the body to intercept nerve impulses before the muscles even fire, thus making the wearer faster, and the augment making them stronger. To do this you have to make a direct interface with the nervous system. They first implemented small microfivers which would wrap themselves around the nerves in question to detect electrical signals. These were designed to cluster primarily along the spine but have additional nodes in the major muscle groups. However, direct stimulation of a nerve or nerve cluster sends signals to the brai nthat are interpreted asâŠ. Unbelievable agony, which is likely the agitation that they were seeing in the animal test subjects. However, with a high enough drug dosage, you can mitigate these effects, or distract the brain enough to keep the wearer functional for some time.â
He sat back in his seat.
âAnd in iron eye, how did you get around this problem?â
âSubdermal implants that do not require direct contact with the nerve endings themselves.â
âAnd does Iron eye cause any significant damage to the wearer?â
âNo sir, the only danger is an infection of the implants, but that is with almost any implanted medical devise.â
âThe subjects have no pain.â
âA general soreness that goes away within two to three days.â
âSo in my understanding it is clear that there were alternatives to their original course of action. They could have pulled back and tried to implement a way to mitigate the pain rather than mask it with drug dosages?â
âCertainly.â
âBut that isnât what they did.â
âNo.â
âThe prosecution presents Transcript 27 to the court for viewing.âÂ
Experimental log #27:
We have begun testing various drugs to suppress the pain, this test is with acetaminophen, commonly referred to as Codeine.Â
As per usual the subject was implanted while unconscious and atop this it was given a high dose of codeine prior to it awaking.Â
-recording break-
It appears that while the subject was capable of withstanding the pain from the implant for a longer period of time than our previous subjects However the subject clearly seemed to suffer increasing mental instability as the sensations returned, culminating in the subject violently trying to destroy the implant. Learning from prior experiments and in an attempt to reduce harm to the scientists, the subject was left alone while it was in this state and no attempt was made to aid the subject.
Adam turned his head away unable to stomach what was coming next. His hands were sweating terribly. He felt cold and weak. He had seen horrible things in war and in his time, but watching this⊠.watching steel eye. It was just too much.
His mouth had gone dry, and his skin was hot as if he had a fever.
The dog nosed his hand but he barely acknowledged her.
Audio-visual log transcript:
The transcript begins once the Codeine begins to wear off.Â
The subject begins by itching at the area around the implant, the reaction is far less violent than the prior subjects. After several minutes of ever more irritated scratching and aggressive tugging at the implant and plaintive noises the subject began to violently bash the implant against the wall. Growing ever more violent with the abuse of the implant. This continues till the test implant is mangled and ruined with the subject pulling the mangled chunks of metal off their skin, this however seems not to alleviate the subjects pain and irritation. This is likely due to the destruction of the implant not removing the interfacing needles The subject continued to scratch and pull at its skin, the plaintive noises slowly becoming screams of pain. This action continued without interruption from the scientists till the subject had torn most of the skin of its arm and taken chunks out of its musculature, the subject finally passed out from pain or blood loss after several minutes of self mutilation.Â
The room spun around him, and he took a few long, deep breaths hoping that it would stop.
He wast sure he could survive another few hours of this.
He wasnât sure at allÂ
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hi hi! i'm only just beginning on tumblr and as a star wars fic writer in general (i have zero idea how to use this i hope this sends as anon??) and i was wondering if you had any tips for how to make friends/any good and open discord servers to join? thank you, you seem very nice :)
hi anon!!! yes, youâre coming through as anon asdfasdf--but anyways, yeah! thanks for the kind words! i hope these words are somewhat helpful, but (and oops, this got hecka long, so all of my advice is under the cut!):
shooting asks (like you are now!) is always a good start! just to pop in to say âhiâ or some genuine words always signals to the other person that oh! nice person alert! nice person!!!! and that always makes people more willing to like,,,get to know you? (and of course, starting off as anonymous is fine! but when you feel brave enough, you can hop off anon!)Â
oh, and i guess just knowing basic internet etiquette! since you said that youâre still beginning on tumblr / being a star wars fic writer, i guess people are usually more open to talking when like....people know tumblr etiquette at least? (so like maybe this is selfish of me, but i tend to be a lot more patient with people who actually reblog art / creators / fic than i am with people who just spam-like things?Â
not saying i dislike those people--i appreciate them too! i really, really do! but when i see someone whoâs actively reblogging things to share content creations, then that signals to me that this person really cares about keeping fandom the happy, lively community that itâs supposed to be! just because at least the way it works on tumblr, fic / art / pretty edits are only shared through reblogging, because that gets more people to see the content, and that supports those creators! and thatâs nice! but when people donât reblog, that stuff doesnât get circulated, fandom dies, and then fandom gets confused why the heck there arenât any more writers / artists / gifmakers in their fandom anymore. itâs an issue, so,,,basic tumblr etiquette about supporting your fandom creators is always a nice way to show that âhey! iâm here! and iâm also supportive!!!â which,,,yâknow! is a good signal to everyone!Â
commenting on other peopleâs fics! similar to the one above, idk just having enough basic internet etiquette to be polite is always a way to get a conversation going! and chances are, the fic writer receiving the comment will check out your fics too, even before you tried to ask them to. (and,,,idk maybe a general rule of thumb is,,,donât go into a fic writerâs inbox / private messages and just drop them a link to your fic without introducing yourself or anything first? just because that can come across as a little,,,idk,,,pushy? insensitive? seeing a fic writer more as a tool than like,,,yâknow! an actual person! who also has boundaries and time and other obligations and etc.!) but anyways, where i was going with this point was that as soon as you post that comment, congratulations!! not only have you alerted to fandom that you are a living, breathing participant here, but also,,,again: if you establish some form of pleasant connection, then people are more likely to warm up. (which is kinda funny and i think says a lot about people, but i digress.)Â
and yes, of course, servers!!!! iâll admit iâm a part of,,,quite a few servers, but iâm rarely active in all of them at once, just because discord servers can be a little overwhelming and a Lot to Handle at First, esp. with notifications. (but itâs easy to get around that! sometimes you can just put yourself in Do Not Disturb mode, and thatâs fine--or you can just mute some channels, and thatâs fine too!) but yes, servers are a wonderful way to get active and make some new friends! the servers that iâm most active in is @giggles-and-frecklesâ lovely server (which i would be happy to shoot an invite over dm!!! or maybe even consider asking her because sheâs the moderator asdfdsf), which is,,,,literally just a whole group of fic writers / fic readers / artists / just fandom people all vibing, and itâs a wonderful time.Â
iâm also a part of @obirainâs writing server, and while iâm admittedly not as active there, aubrey is an absolutely wonderful person, and i can 1000/10 guarantee that youâll find some equally amazing people over there too!!!
hope that helps anon!!!Â
#answered#anon#hope that was helpful!!!#tbh anon i too am kinda new with the 'making online friends' thing#but i assure you it is a *wonderful* time
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"Discordant Sonataâ- Ch. 12
TFW your rich AF dad is a stingy SOB who only gives you one shirt to wear đ€Ł
(And YEP! In this AU Adrien wears glasses! He wears contact lenses for photoshoots/modeling)Â :3c
>Read it here on Ao3<
>Read it here on Wattpad<
CHAPTER 12: ANDANTE
Music glossary: Andante - to go at a moderate, steady pace
French glossary: âLes Deux Sotsâ = The Two Fools/Idiots
(La Dispute (Amelie Soundtrack)- Yann Tiersen)
Marinette was upset.
Not so much upset, really. More like⊠confused? Frustrated? And not even at Fu, necessarily. It wasnât his fault. But Fu was the messenger, and therefore, the undeserving recipient of her current mental ire.
With the critical 48 hours of Chat Noirâs healing complete, sheâd gone to visit Fu to discuss some of the concerns she had about her new partnership, along with some other pressing questions. The answers were⊠not quite what she expected (or wanted) to hear.
No, Marinette, heâd said. You must not know Chat Noirâs identity, heâd said. Yes, I know you just want to protect him as a civilian. No, donât try to figure it out yourself. If you find out too early, youâll absorb the negative effects from the misuse of his miraculous. Yes, that is always what happens with the Cat and Ladybug miraculouses. Yes, thatâs why wielders must not know each othersâ identities; not until their souls and energies are perfectly in sync with each other. No, Marinette, you are not in perfect sync with each other. Yes, I know you donât like it. But that is how it must be. Have a nice day, Marinette. No, Iâm not kicking you out. Iâm just... going to the spa to get rid of a sudden tension headache. Goodbye.
âUnderstood, Master,â sheâd said. And honestly, yes; she really did understand.
But she still didnât like it.
The conversation weighed heavily on her mind as she went about her daily chores, and she couldnât help but stomp around the house as she worked, a perpetual crinkle fixed between her eyebrows.
She just couldnât quite wrap her head around it. Negative effects? Truth be told, prior to this, sheâd even almost suspected that Fu had exaggerated that aspect of the miraculouses, in order to keep her on the straight and narrow path and be responsible.
Such matters had been far from her mind while befriending Chat Noir. Sheâd never even thought to ask him about it. How long would these effects linger on, even after his change of heart and proper use of his miraculous?
More importantly, would the effects ever fully disappear? Fu said that every case was different. Sometimes the effects did fade. Other times, they did not; and in those cases, partners couldnât ever reveal their identities to each other. In rare instances, the wielders would even have to return their miraculouses to the guardians, because they would never be able to work in proper harmony with the other. Marinette shuddered. She didnât want to even consider that possibility.
In any case, Hawkmoth was suffering from such negative effects as well. What could his ailments be? Chat had mentioned that he seemed to be losing control of his akumas, and his judgment was becoming increasingly clouded. But was there more?
Frowning, she stuffed folded laundry into her dresser drawers with a bit more force than necessary. She quickly stood up when she was finished, yanking the laundry basket away with a huff as she headed towards her next task.
There was also another question, one sheâd had even years ago, when sheâd first become Ladybug. One sheâd always been too shy to ask, always trusting in Fuâs judgment, never questioning him because of his seniority and experience (respecting oneâs elders having been an integral part of her upbringing, particularly her motherâs).
But now that she was older, sheâd finally gathered enough courage to ask him: Why hadnât he revealed Chatâs identity to her years ago? With enough luck, she might have been able to steal back his miraculous when he wasnât transformed while he was out of the house. So, why hadnât he told her?
Fuâs answer had been remarkably simple: Heâd wanted Chat to have a relatively normal life outside of the mask. Heâd always held out hope that Chat would turn away from his unrighteous deeds on his own. Having people around him that treated him kindly and that he could trust would give him the courage to do so. If he didnât have that, he would have felt that he had nowhere to turn to, and no choice but to remain as he was.
Fu added that if sheâd had any contact with Chat, either as herself or as Ladybug, she would have treated him differently, possibly with hostility. Marinette had wanted to deny it at first, but she knew he was right. She would have treated him differently. Probably wouldâve avoided him, spoken to him harshly, given him dirty looks from across the street. She might have even tried to convince her friends that he wasnât a good person, much like her situation with Lila. Not that that had ever worked; that girl was just way too deceptive. After all these years, sheâd given up on even trying. Without any concrete evidence, Marinetteâs claims that Lila was a rotten liar wouldnât convince anyone, except thankfully for Alya and Nino; but even they had been skeptical at first.
In any case, Marinette would have most likely become angry, cold, or maybe even embittered towards Chat if she wasnât able to retrieve his miraculous right away. And Chat wouldâve responded with confusion, hurt, and resentment towards both her and Ladybug, permanently eliminating any chance to become partners.
The troubled girl sighed wearily, walking towards the downstairs bathroom with a basket full of supplies for their feline guest, still mulling over her earlier discussion. There just had to be other options she hadnât considered yetâ
Still distracted, deliberating the myriad of possibilities and worrying over every potential outcome, Marinette swung the bathroom door open... only to be greeted by a tall, toned, and very much bare backside, whose modesty was barely concealed by a small towel wrapped around the waist. Rivulets of water coursed down the valleys and ripples of the lightly tanned skin, and her eyes couldnât help but follow them down their path, gracefully gliding from the tops of the broad shoulders, still rosy and glowing from the showerâs hot water, and disappearing into the edges of the towel, which rode low along the hips. The shock of damp, golden hair gave Marinette the confirmation of who exactly the stranger in her bathroom was. Practically tripping over her feet, she slammed the door shut, a loud screech abruptly escaping her throat.
âOHMYGOSHOHMYGOSHOHMYGOSH, I AM SOOOO SORRY!!!â she yelled in between pants. âI thought the bathroom was empty!!! I was just gonna drop off some musclesâ I mean toiletsâ I mean toiletries!!! Iâll just... leave them here outside the door! SORRYAGAIN, BYE!!!â
Marinette sprinted all the way to her bedroom and plopped like a dead fish onto her chaise, letting out a long, shrill whine into the cushions. She flopped over onto her back, shoving a throw pillow onto her face, and considered smothering herself out of existence in order to avoid having to face Chat Noir ever again. Maybe sheâd come back to Earth reincarnated as an actual ladybug, and she could flee from the city to go live in the country. Cannes was supposed to be nice this time of year.
Before her plans could come to fruition, specifically the one about becoming the insect she already felt like, she sluggishly removed the pillow from her face to get some air.
Only to be greeted by a small, floating⊠cat??
No, not a cat.
A kwami.
Chat Noirâs kwami.
âBoo,â he said flatly.
Marinette sat up, careful to not bump into the tiny god.
They stared at each other for a few seconds, although she suspected Plagg wasnât so much staring as sizing her up. Gauging her adequacy, perhaps? Heâd worked alongside countless other Ladybugs these past few millennia, so the thought made her a bit nervous.
âYou must be Plagg,â she said, concealing her surprise.
âI see my reputation precedes me,â Plagg replied with a showy twirl. âI am quite noteworthy.â
Marinetteâs eyes crinkled in amusement. That wasnât quite was sheâd been expecting.
She extended her hand with a smile. âHi, Iâm Marinette.â
Plagg took her hand and turned it over, examining her palm. âHmph, no Camembert?â he asked with obvious disappointment. âIntroductions can wait. My stomach cannot. â
Marinette snickered. She hadnât expected such an ornery attitude from a kwami; nevertheless, she decided she liked him already.
She tugged open her shirt pocket and said, âHop in. Letâs go fetch some from the kitchen.â
Plagg approached the pocket and Tikki poked her little head out.
Marinette chuckled. âIâm sure you remember Tikki.â
âAlways a pleasure, Sugarcube,â he bowed deeply with an exaggerated flourish that was so entirely Chat-like, she could definitely tell that their mannerisms had rubbed off on each other.
âHello again, Stinky Sock,â Tikki replied.
âHey, Camembert is the most amazing fragrance known to man. Itâs a shame youâre not enlightened enough to truly appreciate the beauty of fermented foods.â
Tikki rolled her eyes, but nevertheless scooted over to let him in.
Upon reaching the kitchen and making sure the coast was clear, Marinette ushered the pair out of her pocket. She pulled out a plate and made her way to the refrigerator with Plagg hovering nearby, watching her curiously.
Marinette had anticipated that heâd be hungry, so she'd gone shopping that morning after visiting Fu, specifically to stock up on cheese. Even still, she had grossly underestimated just how ravenous the kwami would be; her eyes widened as the pile on the plate grew higher and higher.
Once finished, Marinette set it down on the countertop, trying to avoid thinking too hard about how all that food would fit inside his small body.
âUhh, do you also want some crackers, or some fruit, orâŠ?â she trailed off, unsure of how else to be of service.
âNothing more is needed when you already have perfection,â Plagg remarked before picking up a particularly pungent piece of cheese and taking a deep, long whiff.
Tikkiâs tiny features scrunched in distaste as she put some more distance between herself and the odorous meal.
Marinette stood beside them, not quite sure what to do with herself or what to say. Maybe Plagg could answer some questions without revealing too much.
Deciding to give it a try, she asked, âSo... Plagg. What can you tell me about Hawkmoth? You donât have to go into any details. Just anything that you think would be helpful to know, so we can figure out a plan to defeat him?â
Plagg frowned, then followed up with an appalled grimace. âSeriously?! Right in front of my Camembert??â He harrumphed. âLetâs talk about that jackass some other time. Believe it or not, I lose my appetite anytime I think about him.â
âFair enough,â Marinette relented. She puckered her lips, deep in thought as she took a seat on the barstool nearby. âOh, I know! What kinds of hobbies does Chat have? Maybe I can get him some supplies or other stuff that he likes, so he can relax and feel more at home.â
âHmm⊠Well, you already know he likes games, both videogames and tabletop,â Plagg replied in between bites. âHe likes to read. The classics, fantasy, sci-fi, fanfiction, comic books...â Another bite. âHe spends a ridiculous amount of time writing poetry and short stories. AlsoâŠâ Chomp . âSappy movies... Anime.â Gulp . âHeâs not a great singer, but that doesnât stop him from busting into song and dance numbers from his favorite musicals. He is a decent dancer though.â Another gulp, punctuated with a smirk. âBut Iâm sure you already know that.â
Marinette averted her gaze, a surge of tingles invading her entire body as she remembered that first night together. It felt like a lifetime ago, yet she remembered that evening full of dancing as vividly as if it had happened yesterday.
Plagg gobbled up the last bit on the plate, then wiped his paws on the napkin Marinette had provided. He followed up with a mighty stretch of his small limbs, sighing in contentment.
Marinetteâs posture straightened upon seeing that heâd finished his meal. âWe should head back to the bedroom. Chat will be looking for you soon.â She hopped off the barstool and the trio made their way back towards Chatâs bedroom.
Marinette grimaced as she placed her hand on the doorknob and let out a pathetic groan. âI better figure out what to say when I apologize for walking in on him.â
They entered the bedroom and she shut the door behind them. She raised her eyebrows, looking hopefully at Plagg. âDo you think heâll be furious with me?â
Plagg shrugged off her concern. âOh, puh- lease . I bet heâd actually be quite pleased that you got a good look at him half naked, if he knew who you really were.â
Marinette could only splutter incoherently, her arms waving around like noodles. âWHAT?! WH-WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT??â
Plagg gave her a smug look and crossed his little arms . âI donât know if youâve noticed, Bugaboo , but my boy is majorly crushing on ya.â
âA-a crushâŠ? On me? O-or rather, on LadybugâŠ?â Heat instantly rushed to her cheeks and all the way to the top of her ears. âI-I wasnât sure, he hasnât said anything about it, and, umâŠâ
Plagg shrugged. âKidâs pretty insecure. Way more than when he first became Chat Noir, thanks to that no-good father of his.â He sighed. âSimply put, he thinks youâre way out of his league and that youâd never go for a guy like him.â
Marinette sputtered, âOut of HIS league?? Have you SEEN him?!â She whipped her arm around, pointing it towards the bathroom door. âHeâs more chiseled than a Greek statue! He could be a model!â
âYeah, yeah, heâs the catâs pajamas, I know,â Plagg scoffed, rolling his eyes. âAnyway, heâs still sorting out his feelings, and definitely too afraid to say anything out loud.â A teasing glint twinkled in his eyes. âYou wouldnât happen to know what itâs like to be too shy to confess to someone, would you?â he inquired slyly.
Marinette felt the heat travel down her neck and towards her back, and she pursed her lips in shame, having nothing to retort with.
âPlagg!â Tikki rebuked, whizzing in front of him. âWhether Marinette can confess to her own crush is no concern of yours!â
âHeâs right, though, Tikki,â Marinette admitted. âI guess itâs not always always totally obvious until you actually say it to them. I just⊠freeze every time I try to confess to Adriâ t-to this guy. Itâs like I havenât progressed at all after all these years.â
âDonât worry, little bug,â the cat kwami reassured her. âSometimes actions speak louder than words. Iâm sure this mystery man knows you care about him.â He rolled his eyes again and added, âEven if heâs too oblivious to realize itâs a romantic attraction.â
Before Marinette could reply, they heard the bathroom door crack open.
âPlagg...?â a familiar soft voice called through the small opening.
âI guess thatâs our cue to leave,â Marinette whispered. âIt was great meeting you, Plagg.â
âLikewise. See ya!â
With that, Plagg zoomed towards the bathroom and phased through the door, and Marinette quietly snuck out.
Minutes later, a rather sheepish Chat Noir emerged from the bedroom. Their eyes met and he stiffened, his body gluing to the spot.
Marinette leaped out of the couch and rushed over to him, utterly mortified, body trembling, spewing out apology after apology without taking a breath in between, looking seconds away from bursting into tears from remorse.
Chat placed his hands on her shoulders and squeezed gently. âItâs okay, Marinette, really! I guess I forgot to lock the door. Iâm the one who should be sorry. I didnât mean to traumatize you or anything.â
Marinetteâs eyes blew wide open. âTraumatize me?? No way, you are SO FINE! â Umm!!â Her hands shot up, waving back and forth. âWhat I mean is, Iâm fine!!â She composed herself and continued, âAnyway, I just feel really bad about intruding and violating your privacy. So, please, please, pleeeaaase, is there a way I make it up to you?â
Chat was just about to reassure her again, but paused. He gave her a timid smile. âActually, there is one thing⊠Could you teach me how to do laundry?â
(Under Paris Skies - Pearl Django)
As he had only one set of clothes, Adrien resigned himself to the fact that it was time to do some shopping. He didnât want to go by himself, however; it didnât feel safe. He had no idea if Gabriel knew he was still alive. He might have dispatched people to search for Adrien and... âcollectâ him back to the mansion.
Plus, he disliked shopping and could use some company.
So here he was, standing outside of Chloe Bourgeoisâ room at the Grand Paris Hotel.
Heâd scarcely knocked once when the door swung open, a clearly miffed Chloe standing on the other side.
âYouâre late!! Where have you beenâ Oh, Adrikins! Itâs you!â Her face softened and gave him a brilliant smile, kissing his cheeks in greeting, then brought him into a tight hug. âCome in! Itâs been ages!â
Before he could get a word in edgewise, he was quickly ushered into the room.
They sat on the elegant, pristine couches of her lounge room. Chloe crossed her legs and reclined into the cushions, placing her hands behind her head in her usual carefree way.
âSo, to what do I owe the pleasure, my dearest Adrichou?â
Adrien took a breath and opened his mouthâ
âWait,â Chloe interrupted, holding her hand up, then sat up straight and leaned forward. She took a pause, looking him over. Analyzing. Scrutinizing. She scrunched her face in consternation, brows creasing in the middle. âI know that look,â she finally said, crossing her arms. âSomethingâs happened, hasnât it?â
Adrienâs eyes grew wide and he suppressed a wince. How were all these women able to read him so well these past few days?? He shrugged indifferently for her benefit, mentally preparing himself to attempt to convince her that everything was fine and she was just imagining things.
Before he could say anything though, Chloe interjected sharply, âAnd donât you dare try to lie to me, Adrien Agreste. Iâm your oldest friend; Iâll know. Tell me everything, or Iâll kick you out.â
Adrienâs shoulders slumped and he exhaled. How is she doing this?!
Eyeing Chloe to make sure she didnât have anything else to say, he began, âFather and I had a... disagreement.â
âI knew it!!â Chloe declared, throwing her hands up in the air.
He continued with a cringe, âAnd I... kinda sorta ran away from home.â He looked up at her timidly, hoping she wouldnât yell at him for his recklessness.
âDo you have anywhere to stay?â she asked instead, without missing a beat, her voice now serious and full of concern. âYouâre always welcome here, you know that. Just say the word and itâs done.â
Adrien smiled broadly. Despite all her faults, Chloeâs loyalty never faltered.
âI really appreciate that, Chlo. It means a lot.â He sighed, plopping backwards onto the couch. âI canât though. Father knows this is the first place Iâd go. But donât worry, Iâve got⊠housing arrangements elsewhere. So Iâll be fine.â
She sat up straight, scooting towards the edge of the couch and leaning towards him expectantly. âYeah?? Where at? Itâs okay, I can keep a secretââ She stopped herself. âErr⊠wait. Actually, no. No, I canât. So donât tell me or Iâll accidentally blab everything to the first person who asks.â
Adrien chuckled. âAlright. Anyway, since I left in such a hurry, I didnât bring any clothes with me. So I was wondering ifââ
âOOOH, A SHOPPING TRIP!!â Chloe squealed, clapping and practically bouncing in her seat. âYes, Iâd love to join you!â
Adrien gave her a grateful grin. âYou would? That would be awesome!â
âOh one condition,â Chloe said, raising a finger for emphasis. âI get to pick out everything.â
âWhaâ?â He raised his eyebrows in surprise. âEverything??â
She casually examined her nails as she answered, "Itâs for your own good. We canât have you looking like a hobo. âCause I KNOW all you're gonna pick is nerdy t-shirts, baggy hoodies, and ripped jeans. And that simply will not do."
Adrien rolled his eyes. âOh, alright. I agree to your terms.â
âWonderful!â she replied, eyes twinkling with delight.
Just then, there was a knock. They both stiffened, glancing at the door, then back at each other with trepidation. Chloe wordlessly guided Adrien into the bedroom portion of her suite, making sure he remained concealed behind the adjacent wall.
She all but tiptoed towards the door, careful not to make the floors creak. Adrien held his breath as he cast a furtive peek from behind the wall, watching Chloe cautiously peer through the peephole. She sighed in relief, throwing the door open and placing her hands on her hips in indignation.
âYou are LATE!â Chloe declared, then soundly smooched the person outside the door.
âMy sincerest apologies. The appointment ran long,â the guest replied as she entered the room.
Adrien recognized that voice.
Chloe scoffed. âUGH, stop it with the politeness! You always sound like youâre about to make a business deal.â
Kagami gave Chloe an unamused stare. âAs you wish... maâam,â she replied with a mischievous smile.
Chloe waved dismissively with a tsk as she made her way to retrieve her hidden friend. âAnyway, suit up. Weâre going shopping!â
âShopping? What for?â Kagami asked.
âAdrien needs a new wardrobe and he cannot be trusted on his own.â
âHey!â Adrien objected.
Kagami shook her head. âOh, I agree, he is definitely going to need help. Otherwise heâll end up dressing like a hooligan.â
âExactly!â Chloe gestured wildly to show approval.
âHey! Not you too, Kagami!â Adrien protested.
âLetâs face it, Adrien,â Kagami replied, folding her arms behind her. âDonât get me wrong; I know you are perfectly aware of what fashionable clothes are supposed to look like. But yourâŠâ she wrinkled her nose, â...geek âimpulsesâââ
"FETISHES!" Chloe included.
â-are just too strong for you to resist. You need us.â
Before he had a chance to argue, Chloe called for them, already opening the door. âWell? Letâs go already!â
The trio exited Chloeâs limousine and made their way into the shopping center. They pointedly avoided the âGabrielâ shop and instead entered the Audrey Bourgeois Boutique.
The girls went straight to business, grabbing and piling clothes left and right, scouring through rows of garments and quickly creating matching ensembles with clearly practiced efficiency. Before long, they had a large pile of outfits waiting to be tried on and modeled on the fitting room platform.
âBut Chlo, I donât have my wallet on me,â Adrien whispered into Chloeâs ear. âHow am I gonna pay for all this?â
Chloe scoffed. âPfft, who needs a wallet?â She turned to the nearest store employee. âHey, you. Add everything we pick out to the Gabriel Agreste tab, will you?â
âYes, of course, Miss Bourgeois,â the employee replied politely.
Chloe turned back towards Adrien and gave him a wink, then sat down next to Kagami in front of the gigantic mirrors of the dressing area, sliding her hand into her girlfriendâs.
A couple of hours and countless outfit changes later, the three teens exited the boutique. Adrien carried more shopping bags than he could keep track off, all of them plastered with with Audrey's icon; and a part of him hoped that with this many bags from one of Gabriel's competitors, it would somehow get back to his father. Served him right.
Back at the hotel, the concierge assisted in bringing the haul into Chloeâs suite. Chloe whispered something to him as Kagami and Adrien made their way to the bedroom area to begin the task of unwrapping and organizing the new wardrobe. Minutes later, there was a knock on the door, which Chloe answered. A few moments later, she returned with a large yet unassuming black suitcase.
âHere you go, Adrikins,â she said, placing the suitcase on the bed. âYou can store your clothes in here and take them back to whatever quaint little cottage youâre staying at.â
Adrien chuckled. âThanks, Chlo. Youâre the best!â
Chloe waved off his compliment. âYes, well... We already knew that, didnât we?â She hid a smile, busying herself with packing his clothes into the suitcase.
When they had finished and it was time for Adrien to go, he gave each of them a tight hug and thanked them again for all their help.
âBefore you go...â Chloe reached into her back pocket, taking out a cell phone covered in glitter and faux diamonds, and handed it over to him. âHere, I had this old thing lying around. You'll need a SIM card, but the phone works fine.â
Adrien turned the phone in his hands, examining the exceedingly bejeweled exterior. âWha-? Chloe, I canât use this! I might go blind from all the sparkles.â
She scoffed. âWell, itâs not like you can be nitpicky at a time like this.â
âWhatâs the matter, Agreste? Too good for a bit of razzle dazzle?â Kagami heckled.
âYou can make anything work, Adrikins. Youâll probably even start a hot new trend.â
Adrien rolled his eyes and pocketed the phone.
âRemember to call if you need anything.â Chloe gave him a stern look and jabbed a finger into his chest. âANYTHING, you hear me?â
âYes, maâam!â he quipped with a salute, exiting the suite with his luggage.
âUgh, you two will be the death of me,â Chloe groaned dramatically. âNow go, enjoy your last couple of days of freedom. Iâll see you at school.â
âBye, girls!â He waved back at them. âIâll let you know my new number as soon as I buy a new SIM card for the phone.â
With that, Adrien turned and walked down the hall towards the elevators.
Back at the doorâs threshold, the pair watched him walk away in silence.
Kagami reached for Chloeâs hand and squeezed. âDo you think everythingâs going to be alright? I worry about him. Mr. Agreste has not been himself for quite some time.â
Chloe squeezed back and sighed. âI dunno.â Then she added with a sneer, âGabriel Agreste is a sad, old bastard whose soul died long ago along with Aunt Emilie. But, heâs connected and powerful. Who knows what heâll do to try to get Adrien back under his thumb.â
Kagami let out a small, disapproving grunt. âIâve got a bad feeling about this.â
Chloe lightly tugged her back into the room. âOh, relax, you sound like a Star Wars character.â
âStar Wars? Now whoâs the nerd?â Kagami teased.
Chloe sputtered. âHush, you.â
( Life with Masks - Mystic Messenger OST)
After Chat dropped off the suitcase in his room at the bakery, Adrien embarked on his next mission: Going to the bank and withdrawing enough money to purchase everything else on his list, which included a new SIM card for Chloeâs old (and extremely bedazzled) phone, and a laptop for school.
He made his way to the bank, wearing the hood up on his zip-up hoodie, and pulling it down over his eyes whenever he saw any suspicious looking men in suits.
At the bank, Adrien filled out all the necessary forms, grateful that heâd taken the time to memorize his savings account number years back, when theyâd first opened it.
However, today he encountered a different problem.
âIâm sorry, Mr. Agreste,â the bank teller said. âLike I said, Iâm afraid that all your assets and accounts have been frozen. You can only withdraw money if your father accompanies you, or if he unlocks them himself.â
Adrien sighed dejectedly. âIsnât there anything you can do?â he asked.
âIâm afraid not, sir,â she replied. âYou would have to speak to your father to have him undo the restrictions. We canât do anything until then... or until you turn eighteen years old. At that time, you can regain access without needing his permission, since you would officially be an adult.â
Adrien pursed his lips into a thin line. His birthday was still a month away.
All his savings, all the hard-earned money from his modeling work... Gabriel was keeping it all hostage, hoping Adrien would come crawling back to him, like some pitiful prodigal son.
Well, two could play that game. He filled out all the necessary paperwork to reclaim what was his, so everything would be all set up when his birthday came around. He also made sure that Gabriel would be permanently locked out of his accounts at that time.
He thanked the teller and left the bank, feeling morose and surly. He couldnât even afford to get his used phone working, and was therefore cut off from all communication; save for whatever computers were available at an internet cafe or library. What else could he do?
Maybe Nathalie could help him figure out if there was anything else he could do legally. If he could even get ahold of her. Heâd been worried about her while he was recovering at the Dupain-Chengsâ; now was his chance to try to contact her.
Adrien walked to the nearest library and convinced the starstruck librarian to let him use their telephone.
The phone rang⊠and rang⊠and rangâŠ
So he tried again. And again. And again.
But the same monotone voice repeated the same discouraging phrase:
âThe number you have dialed has been disconnected.â
The boy frowned. Was Nathalie alright? Heâd left her all alone with his father. He wouldnât do anything to her, would he?
Mind whirling and chest tight, he sped to the computers to create a new email account (not risking logging into his usual one), and sent her a simple, nondescript message:
âu ok?â
He couldnât help but remain glued to the computer, clicking and clicking to refresh the page, hoping for something, anything in response. He drummed his fingers on the desk. Crossed his legs. Uncrossed them. Crossed them again. Fiddled with his shoelaces. Opened a new browser tab to distract himself by reading the news, only to switch back every 30 seconds. Minutes ticked by. But still, nothing.
Eventually he resigned himself to the fact that he couldnât stay in the library forever.
This wasnât bad news, right? No news oftentimes meant good news. Receiving a reply in such a short amount of time was rather unlikely... Even though Nathalie always replied within five minutes, because she never turned off her email notifications⊠Ever. But her not replying this time surely didnât mean anything, right?
Right⊠Itâs fine, everythingâs fine. Nathalieâs fine.
She has to be.
Adrien trudged aimlessly down a nondescript sidewalk, lost in thought, his attention eventually drifting back to his livelihood. Could he make do without a single cent for an entire month? Probably not⊠Heâd have to find a job.
But who would hire celebrity Adrien Agreste to work in retail or flip burgers? Theyâd either laugh at him, or think he was pulling some elaborate prank on a hidden camera show. How would he even begin to explain that heâd left his home and was on the run from his very own father?
Adrien had seemingly no reason why he would choose to run away. He was a privileged young man who had everything: a famous and well-respected family, wealth, good genetics, people at his beck and call⊠the list went on. To the outside world, Gabriel was a devoted husband and father; a bit of a hermit after his wifeâs âdisappearanceâ, but not unusual for someone who was mourning a loved one.
Chloe hadnât asked him why heâd left, but other people would. Obviously, the truth was out of the question. So, what was there to say instead? That he was just a spoiled rich kid having a rebellious phase?
It was a mess and there didnât seem to be a way out; he was cornered. He knew it, and he knew that Gabriel knew it.
His only ace in the hole was that Gabriel didnât know Adrien actually had a place to stay, thanks to the Dupain-Chengs. But he couldnât rely on them forever. And, as he was quite literally penniless at the moment, his options were severely limited.
He was broke, with a famous identity and an infamous alter-ego, and near impossible to contact since he didnât have a functioning phone. Things were looking bleak. If only he couldâ
âAAAACK!!!â
Adrien turned the corner on the sidewalk when a blur of pink and black slammed against him hard. Both bodies clattered to the ground, along with a myriad of bags and boxes the other person was carrying.
Adrien raised his head sluggishly with a small grunt, then opened his eyes to findâ
âMarinette??â he said, eyes widening in surprise.
The girl groaned as she lifted her head, slowly pushing herself off of him. One of her eyes cracked open, then both popped wide open in recognition.
âA-ADRIEN!!â she squeaked, her face turning ruby red in an instant. âGosh, I am so sorry!!â she yelped, practically leaping off of him. âAre you okay?!â
She offered her hand and he took it. âIâm alright, no worries,â he replied, adjusting his glasses, which had shifted on his face when he fell.
He knelt down to help her pick up the items that had spilled out of their containers. âSo, where are you off to in such a hurry?â
âOh! I- uh,â she stammered. âI was just getting some things for a friend!â
Adrien took note of some of the books, games, and movie titles as he put them back in their boxes. âYour friend has good taste.â
She squawked out a weird laugh and mumbled in agreement.
As they rose from the pavement, something caught Marinetteâs eye. âOh!â she exclaimed, bending over to pick it up. âHere, you dropped this.â She opened her palm to reveal several Euro bills and coins, and a ticket stub.
He stared at the contents of her hand. âAre you sure these are mine?â he asked incredulously.
âWell, thereâs about⊠maybe a hundred euros or so, and a ticket stub for that new movie, âLes Deux Sotsâ. â A flash of recognition flickered across her features, and her cheeks flushed. She continued haltingly, âD-do you remember wearing this particular hoodie to the movie theater recently?â
Adrien contained a gasp and mindlessly ran his hands over the fabric, realizing that this was the same hoodie he wore on his date with Ladybug. He hadnât worn it since then. Not until three days ago: the day of the last akuma attack, and his subsequent fight with Hawkmoth.
âOh,â he replied quietly, accepting the items. âThank you, Mari,â he uttered, almost in awe.
She smiled widely at him. âNo, thank you for helping me pick up all this stuff I dropped! Sorry again for knocking you over,â she said sheepishly.
âDonât worry about it, it was my pleasure. So, where are you going with all this?â
âUh⊠Home, actually,â she replied. âMy friend is gonna... pick them up later today.â She stepped forward to take the boxes and bags from his arms.
âCan I help you carry it back? Itâs a lot of stuff; and you could barely see over the top of it,â he offered.
Marinette fidgeted with her hands, stammering, âO-oh, I mean, I-I wouldnât want to impose, that isâ Iâm sure youâre very busy and have important things to do, I donât want to bother you, and it is a lot of stuff, plus itâs pretty heavy, andââ
âReally, itâs no trouble at all; Iâm not busy right now. And Iâd love the company.â He added, âIf you donât mind, that is.â
âOh!! A-are you sure?? Wow, youâre amazing! I-I mean, th-that would be amazing! Thank you!â she said, practically vibrating with elation.
âIâm happy to do it!â Adrien replied as they began the trek to the bakery. âIâm really glad we bumped into each other,â he replied with a wink.
Marinetteâs head swiveled towards him, looking like sheâd swallowed a golf ball, then exploded into a loud giggle-snort, which made him snicker in turn.
The pair walked together, enjoying some friendly, light-hearted conversation, with Marinette becoming more and more comfortable as they went. He was always thankful anytime she was able to relax around him and just be herself.
He dropped her off and they parted with a tight hug, which caused Marinette to let out a flustered squeak. While she wasnât aware of it, thanks to her discovery, heâd be able to buy himself that prepaid SIM card for Chloeâs old phone and become reachable again. And the first thing he would do with that phone would be to send Marinette a text message, thanking her for everything she continually did for him and their friends, and for always being such a sweet person.
(Somewhere Only We Know- Keane (Max Schneider, Elizabeth Gillies, and Kurt Schneider cover)
Evening came and the city of Paris buzzed with activity, as it was the last weekend of summer vacation. Ladybug breathed in the crisp night air, hopping from roof to roof to rendezvous with her partner. A few blocks away from the Louvre, the quiet, unassuming edifice of the Saint Germain l'Auxerrois stood tall and stoic, as it always did; its stately gothic arches and ancient pillars contrasting with the chaotic energy and noise of its modern surroundings.
Ladybug spotted the distant figure of Chat Noir at the balcony of the churchâs bell tower, where theyâd agreed to meet. He leaned on the railing, looking content as he observed the scenery.
She nimbly landed beside him and chirped, âHey, you!â
He turned around, his countenance brightening instantly. âMy Lady! Itâs so great to see your lovely face again.â
Ladybugâs insides fluttered upon hearing him use her usual nickname, the feeling becoming increasingly familiar the more time she spent with him, both in and out of the costume.
âUm, I brought some snacks from a little shop down the street,â she said, lifting up a small bag to demonstrate.
âYum! That sounds wonderful, thank you!â Chat reached into his belt pocket, bringing out a small, rectangular box. âAnd I brought some playing cards!â
âCool! I love card games! Whereâd you get them?â she asked, feigning ignorance.
Chat rubbed the back of his neck and smiled wide, his cheeks becoming rosy; a look that was simply adorable on him. âMarinette gave them to me, actually. She got me some boxes full of really amazing stuff she thought Iâd like. And I swear, sheâs gotta have magical powers or something, âcause they were all totally spot on.â He rubbed his arm absently. âSheâs so nice... I canât believe she went out of her way just to help me feel more at home.â
Ladybugâs cheeks grew warm, feeling almost guilty for hearing him talk about her secret identity in such a favorable way without him knowing. Unsure of how to reply, she wordlessly offered the bag so he could pick out a snack.
âSo, how did the cashier react to seeing Ladybug walking into their shop?â he asked, reaching inside. âWas he surprised?â
She chuckled. âI didnât buy them as Ladybug, silly. I got them as myself. My civilian self, that is.â
âOh! O-of course,â he replied with an embarrassed smile. âItâs easy to forget youâre not always Ladybug. Th-that isâ obviously youâre always Ladybug, b-but not necessarily walking around as Ladybug, itâs just⊠y-youâ uhhâŠâ
She giggled, placing a hand on his shoulder. âItâs okay, I know what you mean. We donât know what the other looks like, so itâs hard to mentally picture anything else.â She placed a finger on her chin, tapping it thoughtfully. âI bet that in real life, youâre actually a pirate with a peg leg. A daring, swashbuckling outlaw with a hook for a hand and a secret cave full of gold,â she said jokingly. âOh! But you like music, right? So, maybe youâre actually a professional violinist. World renowned! Or, since youâre pretty athletic, I bet youâre secretly a circus acrobat! Are you in Cirque du Soleil, by any chance?â
âHa ha, youâre hilarious,â he deadpanned. Then he leaned forward, quirking a flirtatious smile and waggling his eyebrows, and replied, âObviously, Iâm the quick-witted and dashing Han Solo type. Breaking hearts and taking names. People stop in the streets, jaws dropping, and they gape as I walk by, admiring my charms.â
âPFFT!â Ladybug snickered at his clowning and replied, lilting, âOh, Iâm sure. I can see it now.â Her voice went into a falsetto and she swooned, clasping her hands together, âOh, Monsieur Solo Noir, you are such a handsome rogue! Wonât you whisk me away in your Catmobile into the sunset?â
He gave a small, amused hum. âSo... you think Iâm handsome, huh?â he asked, turning his body towards her, and straightened up his spine, placing a hand on his hip and cocking it with a smug grin.
Heat exploded throughout the girlâs body, all the blood rushing to her face. Plaggâs words about Chatâs crush suddenly popped to the forefront of her mind, and her thoughts became a jumble.
She stammered, âW-well, I mean, obviously you must already be aware th-that youâre conventionally attractive, b-but I-I, that is, itâs not like I just sit and ogle you like some kind of perv or something, but youâre definitelyâ y-youâre veryâ uhhh...â She continued babbling, hands flapping like flags.
Chat couldnât help but laugh. âYouâre so adorable when you get all flustered, Buginette. And I really mean that in the best way.â
Ladybug pursed her lips together into a thin line. AUGH, this⊠this GUY!!! Why did she have to act so foolish around the two blond boys that sheâd hung out with today?! She never knew she had a type. But that must be it, right?? That she apparently had a thing for tall, green-eyed blondes? Was that what was going on, or was she actually crushing on Chat Noir while already in love with Adrien? Was that even possible?? Was she simply projecting her desire to be loved onto Chat because she knew he had a crush on her, whereas Adrien did not? That would be unfair to him; he didnât deserve to be some rebound love. She needed to figure out whether her feelings were genuine, or if she was just being shallow and largely motivated by hormones.
UGH!! Why was everything so incredibly confusing?! Not that it mattered. By this point, they both probably thought she was a giant clod, what with her tendency to constantly make an utter fool of herself.
Thankfully, Chat took pity on her and changed the subject back. âSorry, I didnât mean to make you uncomfortable. And actually, you were partly right. I am into music. Not violin though. Uh... percussion,â he added vaguely. He turned back towards the scenery, leaning on the balcony railing, and asked, âSo, how about you? What are you like?â Â
Settling down from her utter failure at being suave, she replied, sighing, âWell⊠itâs hard to say. Iâm a bit of a hot mess, actually.â
âPfft, you?? No way! You always seem so on top of everything,â he replied, incredulous. âAlthough... I definitely believe the âhotâ part,â he teased with a wink.
Stifling a squeak, Ladybugâs insides seemed to seize up, and she fought the urge to jump off the belltower to prevent him from noticing her surely crimson-colored face. Attempting to sound aloof, she replied, âYou flirt. I bet you say that to all the girls.â
âWould it upset you if I did?â he asked, voice inscrutable.
Her eyes popped open and she whipped her head around, the heat in her body inexplicably replaced with an uncomfortable chill down her spine. Was she... jealous?! She didnât have any right to be. She had no claims on him. But knowing that didnât make the thought of Chat lauding praise and paying special attention to someone else any less unpleasant, and she couldnât help but feel mad at herself for feeling as such.
âUh⊠Iâmââ her gaze darted away nervously, trying to figure out what to say without embarrassing herself.
He scooted closer to her, shoulders almost touching, and leaned back on the balcony. He playfully bumped his hip against hers. âNo need to be jealous, Bugaboo. Believe it or not, Iâm actually kinda shy in real life, and pretty socially awkward; almost painfully so. Any attempts at flirting are clumsy at best, if I ever even bother to try.â
âI-I wasnât jealous!â she huffed.
Veeerrrrry convincing, Marinette, she thought to herself.
âB-but anyway, I never knew that you were actually shy,â she continued. âYou always seemed so confident.â It seemed there was a lot more to discover about her new partner; things she never would have guessed based on his demeanor, back when they were enemies.
Chat shifted the topic away from himself and began shuffling the cards as he sat on the floor. âSo, before I interrupted you with my lame attempt at flirting, you were gonna talk about yourself. What do you do when youâre not Ladybug-ing and saving Paris from corrupted butterflies?â
Ladybug giggled and joined him on the floor as he dealt the cards. âWell, I enjoy making stuff, crafting and whatnot. As you might guess, my favorite subject in school is art. I enjoy movies and videogamesâŠâ
A few hours, several games, and countless laughs later, the pair reluctantly agreed that it was time to part ways.
âThanks for meeting up with me tonight, Ladybug,â Chat said, voice a bit quiet. âI havenât had this much fun in a long time, so it really means a lot,â he added, timidly rubbing the back of his neck.
Ladybugâs stomach did a tiny flip. She wasnât sure whether she was happy that heâd enjoyed himself because of her, or if she was sad because heâd hardly ever been allowed to have fun.
She shifted her weight, twiddling her fingers and replied, âI had a lot of fun too, Chat. Iâm really glad we did this. We should turn it into a regular thing.â
He replied, voice husky, âIâd love that.â A shade of pink spread across his face, and he cleared his throat. He abruptly straightened up and sauntered towards her, wearing a smirk. âSoooo⊠can I walk you home?â he asked playfully. âI do want to be a gentleman for My Lady, after all.â
Ladybug snorted and lightly shoved his shoulder. âNice try, Chaton. But a Ladyâs gotta have her secrets.â
Before he could reply, Ladybugâs communicator beeped urgently with a notification, which could only mean one thing:
An akuma attack.
Ladybug sighed, stretching her arms over her head. âWelp⊠looks like our time together just got an extension.â She winked at Chat and asked, âReady to go kick some akuma butt?â
He smiled, his hand reaching for hers and giving it a tight squeeze. âWith pleasure.â
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