#i don't even know if broad fandoms exist for those books

[gillianthecat]

10 Characters, 10 Fandoms, 10 Tags

thanks @technitango for the tag!

Fighter: Why R U?

Nozue: Old Fashion Cupcake

Talia: Arrows of the Queen

Pete: KinnPorsche the Series

Egwene Al'Vere: Wheel of Time

Sig: Love In the Air

Jeong SeonAh: The Devil Judge

Anyanwu: Wild Seed (Octavia Butler's Patternist series)

Kent Parson: Check, Please!

Hyeong Da-woon: Blueming

10 tags: @bellarkeandclintashaandsuch @carol-holloway @halfmoon-trueself @heretherebedork @lelephantsnail @moonchildridden @negrowhat @placetneplacet @seekingidlewild @veemark

no pressure, of course! only if it's fun for you!

[oldguardleatherdog]

OLD MACDONALD BOUGHT THE FARM: "Barking and meowing" by students is being banned in a hysterical panic by another ignorant Florida school board. How long are we gonna put up with this insidious nonsense?

I've had it. These nutcases are about to regulate onomatopoeia in elementary school. Don't laugh - it's hiding something ominous, and it's deliberate.

First: If you're in the furry fandom - as I've been for 26 years (longer than the average fur has been alive these days) - TAKE THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY.

If they're actually banning K-12 school age kids from wearing anything animal-themed (yeah, it's that broad) and restricting the sounds they can utter for Christ's sake, you can be sure that the wild-eyed crazeballs chick who runs LibsOfTikTok and singlehandedly caused the wave of library closings over the mere existence of LGBTQ+ characters in books - to the extent that the State of Missouri legislature has defunded the entire statewide public library system! - already has her sights trained on Midwest FurFest, and the lunatics who closed down Boston Children's Hospital with bomb threats are already booking flights to bring the Nazis-with-guns to every furry convention in America by the end of this year, AND IF YOU DON'T GET WITH THE PROGRAM THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW YOUR oWo uWu ASSES OFF!

Enough dicking around, my fellow furballs. You know what to do.

Here's what I posted to Reddit last night - piss-poor metrics for my posts about the Wile E. Coyote anvils over our heads, but my groaners in the r/3amjokes and r/dadjokes subs get 35,000 views. Go figure.

In the meantime, read, heed, and reblog like your life depends on it, because it does:

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You may laugh at first glance, or shake your head at "Florida again" - but it's a stalking horse for their next milestone: banning student behavior and appearance that to the MAGAs and right-wing nut jobs carries even a *hint* of LGBTQ+, and then - say it with me -

Identifying students who are mature enough to have come out as LGBTQ+ fully or in part (friends, family); those who are known to be "questioning" and on their way to coming out; those who are beginning to identify as other than heterosexual or show "tendencies" or "predelictions", and students too young to be self-aware in those ways but are seen as suspect by teachers and administrators - and then, gradually at first, then quickly and deliberately separating, isolating, and ultimately barring them from access to public education.

Kentucky has said it out loud just this week, clearly, plainly, with no room for ambiguity: "It's time to eliminate 'transes' from our schools."

If you're still on the fence about getting involved with activism and protests to put this movement down for good before it becomes too big to stop - and we still have time to stop it and crush it - do you think they'll stop after just banning kids?

You don't need to have psychic powers or a crystal ball to see what's heading our way. Soon.

You can choose to do nothing - or you can choose to act. One or the other. Simple, plain, clear.

Joni Mitchell once sang, "it all comes down to you," and she was right, of course, but if you listened closely, her meaning was clear then, and applies now - one choice will save you, the other will not.

Only one of these choices has the potential to turn the tide, the clearly visible, quickening, rising tide that's got crazy Jesus in its eyes and a list with your name on it.

I cannot choose for you, of course. No one can.

Last time I looked, this was still a free country.

But if you do not make the right choice - *you*, Constant Stranger, she sang - no one will be able to save you, or us. And the choice is upon us, sooner than we thought, and now.

Time to choose.

[crimeronan]

can you talk about chronic illness themes in greywaren pretty please I’m so curious what you thought about the conclusion or lack therof

i've had this in my inbox for weeks and keep thinking about it and like. on the one hand i want to answer on the other hand i don't enjoy spending a lot of time talking about things i don't like. but i think i've nailed down the broad shape of my grievances wrt chronic illness real quick, so here's this and moving on

i think the first 2/3rds of greywaren were perfectly suited in tone to what dreamer trilogy had set up and there were Really good questions raised about matthew and jordan and declan and ronan and hennessy, i also think hennessy's arc (and the ronanessy culmination) was the only one that felt like it actually followed through on the chronic illness themes that had been set up. i was very very interested in jordan's thing about the act of creation keeping her awake, there's some good metaphors about artist survival there, tho ymmv. i know a lot of people with chronic fatigue aren't fond of it bc making art is Tiring and sometimes you Cannot Do It but tbh what i didn't get from jordan i got fine from hennessy so. that's all fine. then the last few chapters of the book take a hard transition into "now i have to wrap this whole universe up prettily to avoid rude tweets" and that apparently meant not having any messiness on the page, which is a shame because complex nuanced messiness is where stiefvater's writing most thrives.

adam and ronan's resolution was boring they didn't fix any of the things that were a problem wrt ronan's chronic illness and adam's Everything, joining souls in space is stupid, they already KNEW they loved each other, the love was not the PROBLEM, the problem was that they were on fundamentally incompatible life paths and loving each other DOES NOT MAKE THOSE COMPATIBLE.

declan and matthew's resolution was nonexistent, i'm actually Very Okay with the whole "matthew walks home" plotline but i needed his POV of that journey and i needed WAY more on the page from declan at the end there and i needed WAY more than "i can be fine relying on you guys bc bryde told me i should" when declan's treatment of matthew up til then had shown NO indication that matthew can EVER trust him.

bryde is the sickest person in the series and his end was far too ambiguous for my taste, especially when up to that point he and matthew had been interrogating the EXACT themes i'd wanted to see about what it means to be a dream and to be this kind of chronically ill. like we were almost somewhere there and then we just dropped everything about.... everything.

meanwhile adam is torn apart on the astral for days and days and days but wakes up fine and then bam, we flip forward 4 years and he's normal and there's no indication of any potential issues even tho there were themes traced all the way back to cdth about him and hennessy having similar chronic illnesses (thru lace metaphor). the epilogue firmly establishes that everyone is Better and that they all have stuff Figured Out Now and while i like knowing where people end up, i don't like a resolution that boils down to "and now we never need to struggle again."

i did not like greywaren's takes (or lack thereof) on chronic illness because it felt like we can't exist in a "joyful comfort read" because chronic illness is Bad and the author wants to avoid nasty tweets about doing Bad Things to characters.

i want to know what greywaren would have been if its main purpose had been to carry thru the series themes instead of to make trc fandom shut up and feel pleased about their blorbos and move on. stief talked about how she had to do a lot of rewriting with the dreamer trilogy up through greywaren bc she was so angry about being sick and. i want the angry book. i want the drafts that weren't pared down and rearranged and cut apart and spliced together to appease every normie person who's never felt constant pain or fatigue a day in their lives. the first two books were for me and will always have been for me, they are The Most Personal Books I Have Ever Consumed, but in order for greywaren to be for me, it would have had to Not be for certain people, and. well.

greywaren is for everyone.

so. shrug emoji. i guess.

[griseldagimpel]

300 Works on AO3 Check In

I now have 300 works up on AO3. The only harassment from Antis I've received is a hate Ask from an Izzy-Anti and a nasty comment from an anon really upset that I included a pit bull in my fic.

I've also gotten dogpiled, rude comments, and my works reported for talking about racism, but those people don't typically identify as "Antis".

For that matter, you get people who do identify as Antis but don't harass anyone. And most people in fandom have something they dislike but keep that to their own blogs rather than harassing anyone, even if they feel really strong about it. Like, in my current fandom (The Locked Tomb), a lot of the fandom really does not like John Gaius (my blorbo) or second cousin incest ship Camilla/Palamedes (my OTP), but I have not received any harassment for my fandom content here.

So let's talk about strawmen, exaggerated harm, and Making Up A Guy.

See, the reason I started doing these check ins is that I'd encounter breathless warnings about Antis harassing people across fandom. Don't leave comments turned on for your dark fic, the warnings would go, or you'll get harassed. You can't ship X without getting harassed, I was told.

And it just wasn't matching up with my experiences, even though I'm a prolific fic writer who writes a variety of content for a multitude of ships.

Oh, Antis who harass people exist. Like I said, I've encountered them. And I've seen the same happen with others. But I feel like the fear of Antis on a pan-fandom basis outstrips the actual threat. (It seems like some fandoms have a worse Anti harassment problem than others. Our Flag Means Death is bad, and I've heard horror stories about Voltron. But that's the thing: the warnings I see don't narrow their scope to a few specific fandoms; they treat it as if every fandom is as bad as Voltron.)

Now let's talk about Tiffany G. Last year, Tiffany G ran for the AO3 board. Now, like all candidates, she had to meet certain volunteer requirements; not just anyone can run for an AO3 board position.

Tiffany G made some comments about wanting to push back against misconceptions of AO3, and fandom lost its damn mind. She got accused, no lie, of being an infiltrator spy for the Chinese government. Hey, if you're ever wondering why the AO3 board isn't more diverse, it's because when a Chinese fan ran, fandom rallied together to slander her as a spy for the Chinese government. Fans openly celebrated when she lost. Which, you know, has to be a really shitty experience for a devoted AO3 volunteer.

And she was positioned as an Anti and a threat to fandom.

Fandom collectively Made Up A Guy. The phantom menace they'd made up didn't reflect who Tiffany G actually was or what she wanted. It was a caricature - a strawman for fandom to band together and destroy. But there was a real human person being targeted by all that ire.

So what's going on?

Well, out in meat space, there is a lot of censorship and repression, from the U.K. banning protests to the U.S. banning everything from books to gender affirming care to a thousand other shitty things happening all over the globe.

And that can make people feel genuinely powerless. Making Up A Guy to destroy is easy. It makes people feel like they've accomplished something.

But they haven't accomplished anything.

Well, except for probably making one dedicated AO3 volunteer (Tiffany G) feel like shit. Good job, everyone. You didn't stop fascism, but you hurt one random person.

And this is what all the warnings about Antis harassing people are about, why they're broad instead of narrow and why they tend to overstate the [real!] problem.

Because it's about Making Up A Guy that fans can feel so brave for opposing.

Because that's easier than actually doing something.

[bookofmirth]

I feel like sjm was setting up Az & Mor to be like Chaol & Celaena and weren’t going to make them end game, but she had to come up with a reason why and so she just decided to make Mor queer because it seemed like the most easier option. Mor, is a great character & it’s frustrating to see how her character is being reduced to a romantic strife. She deserves so much better. I don’t think E/riel will be endgame and I don’t know why Sarah felt the need to add that into everything when I’m pretty sure she said at one time she viewed them having a sibling relationship. I think what sjm could’ve done is plant small seeds that Mor was queer in ACOMAF and or came up with another reason why they wouldn’t have ever ended up together and brought in a love interest for Az (maybe in the first or second or even third book) and planted another set of small seeds of him ending up with someone else, instead of using Mor as a romance strife if that makes sense. She could’ve spent some more time plotting out all that, came up with more justifiable reasons why Mor & Az never would be a couple, but instead it became a mess and there are people literally blaming Mor for “leading” Az on. I have a hard time believing that Azriel, the Spymaster, who is very observant of people and their body language, does not know about Mor being into ladies. Deep down I feel like he already knows. I’m not upset that Moriel was never intended to be endgame. That’s fine. Things happen, but come up with a better reason to not make them a couple. Don’t use Mor being queer as a plot device. It’s upsetting at how people shit on Mor.

The way that people talk about all the women in this fandom is seriously disturbing, including Mor, Elain, Gwyn, Feyre, and Nesta - hell, even Lady of Autumn! But Mor is the quintessential example of how misogynistic and sexist this fandom can be.

there are people literally blaming Mor for “leading” Az on

LITERALLY HOWWWW ASLDKHJSADKLJASD

I've seen this too and I'm sorry 🙃 but at what point does walking away when someone is confessing their feelings, sleeping with other people, and otherwise ignoring someone romantically for FIVE HUNDRED YEARS leading them on???? All Mor is doing is freaking existing in Azriel's vicinity. 🙃 She doesn't flirt with him, she doesn't suggest hanging out just the two of them, she does literally the opposite of those things - how the fuck do people think Cassian got wrapped up in all of it? Why is he the buffer, if not to help Mor distance herself from Azriel? In what freaking world is that her leading him on????

I think that this whole situation is what happens when sjm publishes the results of her utter pantsing. She is not a planner, she does know the broad strokes of where things are heading, but she changes her mind and then just fudges stuff - oh look, Amren randomly remembered the Dread Trove in acosf, just wait for the 2 Dread 2 Trove in acotar5, followed by Dread Trove: Prythian Drift in acotar6. Whatever mulligan or McGuffin she needs to come up with to get the plot where she needs it to go, she'll do it. Even if we're over here scratching our heads wondering how the fuck all these people who are supposedly such good friends seem to not understand the most basic stuff about one another.

There's also a difference between criticizing the author for writing shit that doesn't make sense, and criticizing the character for doing something dumb. The point at which the characters' actions don't make sense is where we should start pointing fingers at the author. For example, why would Az not have moved on in all this time? Why does Mor not feel comfortable coming out to her cousin and best friends if they have proven that they would support her? Why has Az just sat there suffering for 500 years, rather than idk, handling his shit?

idek where I'm going with my response other than I agree with everything that you've said. SJM has done a lot of things that, depending on her motives, could be well deserving of criticism. But when the fandom instead turns around and leans into it, and decides that actually, let's read this in the worst possible light we can and perpetuate the narrative that women are to blame always and forever for whatever happens to them and for whatever happens around them, then um. That's when I want to rip my hair out.

I see this sort of discussion re: Elain and Lucien sometimes, which is why I honestly don't gaf how she's making him feel right now. I said in the last couple of months (I'm too lazy to find/link it) that I don't really care if he was suffering because of her over Solstice. It sucks for him, I do have sympathy, but I don't blame Elain for doing what she feels like she needs to do. But there are some wild double standards in this fandom when people can say on the one hand "Elain doesn't owe Lucien anything because feminism!" and then on the other hand they say "Mor should definitely do everything she can to make Azriel feel better about feelings that she is not responsible for".

I just... don't think that Mor, or Elain, or Gwyn, or any other woman, real or fictional, should automatically be the mom/therapist towards any man who happens to come across their path. Call me crazy. But I think women do enough emotional labor already.

[earlgreytea68]

Hi EGT! *waves* I know not to quote you on anything but as a lawyer and a fandom veteran, could you shed any light on the attitude difference between monetizing fanfiction versus fanart? I know it's ALL ILLEGAL, technically. But what's the difference in copyright law for words versus imagery? How do you make art transformative enough to pass muster? (No need to respond if you don't feel like it, I'm just on a research binge and I loved your perspective on the omegaverse case)

Hello!

Okay, yes, first: no legal advice here! This is just some information!

First of all, technically fanart and fanfiction (as I understand those terms to identify) are not necessarily AUTOMATICALLY illegal, even if monetized. Fanart and fanfiction are protected by the fair use doctrine. Fair use is a notoriously unpredictable, fact-specific defense based on a number of factors. One of those factors has to do with transformativeness, as you reference above, so, do you have a different purpose or have you altered the character of the original work. This is why AO3's nonprofit is Organization for *Transformative* Works.

Another of those factors has to do with commercialism, and that's where the monetization comes in. While commercialism is not automatically infringing, uses that are *not* commercial are more likely *not* to be infringing. (The flip side of this is that non-commercialism is not automatically okay, either. There is never anything automatic about copyright fair use. No bright line rules!)

Another factor of the fair use analysis is whether the fanart or fanfic affects the copyright holder's market, which is another question entirely. Commercialism can play into that, but not always.

Okay, so with that as background, a couple of things:

--The attitude difference seems more cultural to me than anything else, at times. Sometimes I think it's even generational? Theoretically, commercialism is taken into account in all fair use analyses. Theoretically, commercial uses are less likely to be considered fair than non-commercial uses (although, again, commercial uses can be fair and non-commercial uses can be infringing). So legally there really is no difference between a fair use art analysis and a fair use fic analysis afa commercialism is concerned; they would both be taken into account. As far as I can tell from my years in fandom, fanartists could monetize more easily, selling at cons, and before the rise of Patreon, etc., fanfiction writers didn't have a clear path to monetization, and so it happened that fandom got more used to the idea that fanartists get paid and fanfic writers don't (this is obviously an extremely broad generalization). But that's just a matter of the way technology developed and not actually a legal statement.

--That said, are there differences in copyright law between words and imagery? Yes. Inevitably. They are different creative media. The same reason why not everybody who writes can draw is the same reason why the law is slightly different between them: they're just two different things. To be clear, the law is the *same,* it's just that in application it's a little different. So, for instance, one of the enduring questions in copyright law is how much a character is copyrightable? Important for fanfiction and fanart, right? Since often they're just borrowing characters? We have a test but the test is different for graphically depicted characters than for characters that only show up in books. And this makes sense, right? Recognizing a character as depicted in a television show is using an entirely different set of signals than recognizing a character you've only ever seen in your mind's eye. So figuring out what makes a character in a television show copyrightable is slightly different than figuring out what makes a character who exists only on a page copyrightable.

--So, finally, how can art be considered transformative? Vs. how can fic be considered transformative? I can't really set out guidelines, because of how finicky fair use is, and also because I don't want anyone to think I'm giving legal advice (I'm not!) and make them think there's some foolproof algorithm to make sure your use is transformative. Analyzing the transformativeness of art vs. text can be a little different, because, again, they're different media. I teach a course on fair use and I actually divide the cases up by creative medium because I think it's interesting to see how it plays out.

The answer ultimately is: It depends. We have a bunch of appropriation art cases, many of them involving Jeff Koons or Richard Prince. In some of these, the courts have found the art transformative, when it recontextualized the art in a new collage, or added some Photoshoppy graffiti over the art. But in others of these, the courts have either found infringement or been dubious about transformativeness, when the art just recreated the original in different colors, or printed the original out with just a caption added. We have fewer cases about text. One of these is the Harry Potter Lexicon case, where the court actually basically found fair use with just a few minor changes to decrease how much of Rowling's text was quoted. There's another one involving a sequel to "Catcher in the Rye" called "Sixty Years Later." The court found it was infringing, not transformative enough of the original because it borrowed too much and didn't change enough. And there's the "The Wind Done Gone" case, which was a retelling of "Gone with the Wind" from the POV of a new enslaved character. The first court thought this was infringing, but the appellate court disagreed and thought it was fair use because it was providing valuable social commentary on "Gone with the Wind" and didn't take more of "Gone with the Wind" than was necessary to make its point.

And it's always important to remember that, as in the "The Wind Done Gone" case, often courts themselves disagree strenuously about fair use. We recently had a big fair use case involving an Andy Warhol painting of Prince, and one court thought it was transformative fair use, and another court thought it was infringing. Such is fair use.

[loopy777]

I feel as though these movies are just going to be adaptations of the Rise of Kyoshi, The Search, and Ruins of the Empire respectively. I’m excited for the first of those three myself, even though I was hoping for some original content myself.

While this is probably the most likely scenario, I do wonder about it. If so, it would be a death blow to the idea of Avatar expanded media, since any books and comics would be proven to be 'non-canon' and mere fodder for adaptation. Sure, the adaptations might be close, but nothing is exact, and it's clear where the priority would be in terms of importance. Since we live in a fandom age where individual lines and word choices are endlessly analyzed for discussions and arguments (never mind the arguments about what counts as canon), I think making books and comics into disposable raw material for more 'important' media would turn them into a ghetto of lesser stuff only of interest to the hyper-fans.

At the same time, it is questionable how a solid Zuko movie could be made without touching on the solution to the whole 'mother subplot,' and it would feel weird to address things like Azula or Mai and treat Ursa's fate as a solved mystery, especially with the baggage of her new family. I joke that I'm only interested in seeing the Maiko subplot finally resolved after a decade, but it boggles my mind how such a thing could be introduced even in an otherwise standalone story, since I doubt all modern Avatar fans have read a dumb kiddie comic from a decade ago. And presumably these movies would need to have appeal beyond just Avatar fans, so that's even more incentive to make them entirely standalone.

(That's one reason I'm so surprised to see existing characters being used for these movies. I mean, even Spider-Man, one of the most popular characters in modern popular media, can only gross $375.5 million from an animated movie. That's a little over half what his worst-received live action movie got, a movie that forced a reboot on the franchise. Korra, who couldn't even keep her series on television, is going to make back a feature animated film budget? Sure, her cultural cachet has grown since she became a bisexual icon, but I don't know if that's going to translate into sales. Zuko is popular, but I don't know that he's a theater draw. And Kyoshi is really only known to Avatar fans, and not all of us have even read her books; all she really has going for her is a striking look. I'd think new characters designed for broad appeal and easy accessibility would be easier to work with.)

Kyoshi and Korra are easier to make movies out of without overriding their expanded media. The Kyoshi books just get her started on her Avatar career, so it would be simple to come up with a new standalone adventure for her, and existing elements like her love-interest Rangi and her strained relationship with the current Fire Lord would be easy to introduce to new audiences without making them feel like they missed something. Likewise, Korra already had different adventures in each season of her series, so finding something new for her to do would be easy. Her extended cast would be a little more troublesome to bring in and introduce to new audiences, but that could be a good thing; refocusing on only the relevant members of her cast could make for better storytelling than LoK, which several times tripped over itself trying to come up with ways to include everyone.

So yeah, I feel like it could break either way. Merely making these into adaptations would kill the extended media, but trying to keep it all consistent is harder than they probably want to work.

Of course, we all know my ideal scenario: everything but the Gene Yang comics is left as canon, while those are adapted into something that's actually good. But I'm not holding my breath for that one.

[dragynkeep]

Something I wonder about is the rising popularity or serialization of fanfiction and wider fandom culture. For literal decades we were all underground and formed our own communities in specific online spaces. And while there had always been popular tv shows, games, and books people mostly just kept it to talking about it with friends and enjoying the material as just that. But now all the old fanfiction sites and forums are being wiped out, and we're seeing actually fanfiction become published as actual books and even movies and tv. But it's not always the good kind (i fear for the day My Immortal is made into a gritty Netflix series or a hulu original movie).

And fandom culture has definitely been invaded on two fronts. The normies who just don't know how to interact with more hardcore fans, and then the super rabid fand we get too into the thing and make the space "toxic." So it's definitely been hard. Fandom spaces were always rough in some way not denying that especially anime fandoms in the early years because traditional nerd culture was still seen on fringes of society as uncool and to be mocked and ridiculed. But now we're seeing actually academic spaces analyze fandoms and it's history is just interesting.

Like on the one hand I do miss the more low key open secret places we had and we could just exist on the internet. But also I'm glad that fandoms are no longer seen as being the ultimate loser I'm sure many dnd fans are feeling vindicated that people are finally giving the game the respect it deserves.

I dunno I'm sure I'm not making any sense I just find it fascinating how internet and fandom collided and now it's apart of the wider broad pop culture.

if we get a my immortal netflix series because you spoke it into existence, i will manifest in your bathroom & steal your copper pipes.

but also i agree with a lot of this. i think the clash in wider exposure of traditionally niche, non mainstream media that was basically “nerdy” with “normies” then coming into it, not knowing fandom etiquette & not knowing the “unspoken rules” just leaves way for a lot of conflicts. even more so with content creators who make this media being more publically available than ever with avenues like twitter. before, the only time you could really interact with a creator would be a con which was obviously a moderated avenue. now with twitter, you have this unlimited range of connection that can be abused, with the additional aspect of anonymity on the internet embolding the worst aspects of some people.

i definitely miss when these areas were niche, when it was a little more underground. but i can’t deny the impact that opening up has had for these playgrounds of creativity that could’ve been so easily wiped out when we were still underground because a website didn’t like us anymore. there definitely needs to be some frank talks & changes in how creators & fans interact, in redefining & making clear those boundaries & the once “unspoken rules” for the good of everyone; whether that can be done is another conversation all together. as is, fandom is what it is now. the good & the bad.

[thorniest-rose]

BROOKE I SAW DUNE

Lemme just clarify some things from my ao3 comment:

I alas don't read fanfic while cycling - though now I'm like hmmm they do sell those lil handlebar holders for phones, it probably wouldn't be THAT ba- but I have an hour-long bus journey during which I read fanfic, followed by a fifteen-minute cycle. So lots of fic processing time (aka, my atreidaho cackles)

And I'd read the book!! So I was always a bit "what???" when I heard of the pairing but when you posted a fic I was like ok.... i trust Brooke, ok, and I was RIGHT to do so

But watching the movie!! The hugeness of Jason Momoa compared to the Edward Scissorhands physique of Timothee Chalamet!! The softness and the picking up and the scene in the dormitory with all the soldiers I was like 👀👀👀

I definitely thought about a fic where Duncan is all battlethirsty after the Sardaukar invasion and Paul stumbles on him by accident while bloods are hot... leading to regular ol' thirst and lots of happy-to-be-alive BANGING

Anyway, loved the movie and loved your fic!!

omg hello!!! I'm so happy you've finally seen it! I didn't realise it was still at the cinemas... I wonder if I can see it for a third time... I hope you liked it, I personally loved it, it's been on my mind so much these past few weeks. I've been reading the book recently, which I like, but I actually think the film is better, maybe because it feels more edgy and modern?

Ohhh okay that makes much more sense about reading it while on a bus!!!! I had this picture of you in my head cycling and swerving madly while trying to read my fic on your phone!! Which would be flattering but also dangerous! Though the image of it did make me giggle, I won't lie dhdhs

Oh my gosh, I know, the physical contrast between Jason Momoa and Timothee Chalamet is so delicious. Like Duncan is this big, muscular, broad man and Paul is this long, willowy boy with a kind of ethereal look, with his dark hair and pale skin. I loved all their interactions, how playful and protective Duncan was, and how much Paul loved being around him. I needed so many more scenes of them together!

God I have so many fic ideas too. I'm hoping to write a follow-up to this fic and I also have an idea for a separate fic that I might write over Christmas while I'm off work. The fandom is really small, and I don't think even exists on tumblr that much, but I've had such a lovely response on ao3 and it's given me lots of inspiration so I want to write more!

Anyway thank you for leaving such a funny and sweet comment on the fic, I love that you liked it, and I hope you read my next Duncan/Paul fic when it's finished!! <3