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underratedandoverit · 7 months

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Nothing But You And I

~4k words orangekip (orange cassidy/kip sabian)

mature content? in my blog?? in my fics??? for once its more likely than you think

warnings for implied sexual content (there is a fade to black), a very soft praise kink, making out, stripping. submissive!kip, theres a few swears, they are handy and suggestive, sexual tension. as i put in the ao3 tags, theres a lot of smoke but no actual fire, they are just spicy ✨

can be read as a follow up to "not even thinking twice" but it also works as a standalone, as theres only few small references to what happens in the other one

this is the spiciest shit you can get out of me honestly. im a very squeamish ace person, but willing to push myself as a writer, so this is a result of that. imm honestly very happy with this one, i honestly think its one of my best, if not personally THE best, to date, sssoooo. theres that. would love to hear what you think if you choose to read it, it would mean a lot! 💜

on ao3

@midnightpretenders0 @stormbornpirate @ss-trashboat

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Kip paced back and forth in the hallway, trying to arrange the words into the correct order in his mind. He didn’t know how long he had been there trying to make sense of everything, the track of time was a foreign concept to him at this point, and the liminal space of the hotel corridor wasn’t really helping him with that. All Kip had was the number of the correct hotel room, and a burning passion to get his title back.

Almost on an instinct at the thought, Kip glanced at his shoulder, his face sinking a little at the lack of gold on it, once again. While people would probably have said that the BTE title didn’t mean much of anything in terms of success or career highlights, Kip heavily disagreed with that statement. Maybe it was because it had been the one title he had held in this company, be it a shoot vlog one or not, but it held a special meaning to him and a special place in his heart.

So not only seeing Orange Cassidy now hold it, but also living with the knowledge that Kip had lost the title specifically to him after everything, it was just something he wasn’t able to handle very well.

Kip stopped pacing for a second, standing in front of the hotel room door, raising his hand up for a stern knock. He didn’t do it though, only groaned in annoyance, returning back to walking in circles. It was late, he was probably asleep already anyway, so Kip wasn’t really sure why he bothered with all of this so much. He could easily sleep on it, or at least try to, and catch Cassidy first thing in the morning, to demand a rematch for the title that should rightfully still be his.

“Hey.”

Kip froze in place, the familiar voice catching him off guard. His eyes shot towards it after a split second, staring at the blond standing in the now open doorway that Kip hadn’t heard opening as he had been way too deep in his own thoughts, Cassidy letting out a yawn as he ran a hand through his short hair. There was something in the look he was giving to Kip that he wasn’t quite sure how to decipher at first, but as Cassidy continued to speak, it became pretty obvious.

“Can you stop that? Some of us are trying to sleep here.”

Annoyance. It was definitely annoyance.

Too bad for Cassidy he wasn’t as annoyed by the situation as Kip was, as the Brit stepped closer, getting up to the blond’s face. Cassidy didn’t even flinch, the pair of unamused blue eyes just staring back at him as he yawned quietly again.

“Well wake the fuck up sunshine, I want my title back.”

Cassidy just looked at him, lazily leaning against the door frame without moving an inch. The situation reminded Kip a lot about the way Cassidy had initially coaxed the title match out of him in the first place, just confirming the feeling Kip had had earlier while planning on putting himself into this situation that he had to fall down to similar tactics to best the dastardly Orange Cassidy this time around himself.

“Well?”

“Well what?” Cassidy asked, shrugging his shoulders a little. He clearly wasn’t going to move or give into Kip’s demands, which Kip was sure he already knew. Cassidy was just playing mind games with him at this point, growing the Brit more and more irritated at him with every ignorant statement he made.

“The title! I want a shot!”

Cassidy blinked at him blankly a couple of times, before leaning a bit closer, out of the doorway, glancing around the two of them up and down the empty hallway. Kip watched him, clearly confused, as Cassidy returned back to his original position, shrugging again.

“Brandon’s not here. The stand-ins are not here. I can’t give you a title shot unless it’s official.”

“You think this is a joke, don’t you?”

Cassidy didn’t reply, he didn’t react to the statement at all, but Kip could sense it from him. The blond was making a mockery of the precious vlog title, his precious vlog title, and Kip wasn’t going to stand for it. He stepped closer, as close as he possibly could to Cassidy, eyes narrowing at him as Kip huffed some extremely annoyed energy out of himself, trying his best to ignore the way the tips of their noses softly brushed against one another.

“You’re gonna give me a shot at the title, and you’re gonna give it to me now!”

“Okay.”

Kip went quiet, just staring at Cassidy for a second before his brows furrowed, Kip leaning slightly away from him, clearly suspicious about this situation.

“…Okay?” he repeated, trying to work it out in his brain what the blond was on about.

“You can have a shot.”

Kip was still definitely suspicious about all of this, the conclusion came around much easier than he expected, but at the same time he had always known that Cassidy wasn’t made up to be a champion so maybe he was already regretting this and wanted to lose the title to avoid the responsibilities that came with it. Maybe Kip showing this passionate side of him to Cassidy was making the fraud of a current champion realize how much he actually wanted this, making Cassidy regret ever taking it from him. Maybe --

“But you have to earn it first.”

Getting another sudden flashback to how Cassidy had pulled his title shot out of him, Kip bit his lower lip, swearing he could see a little teasing smirk tugging in the corner of Cassidy’s mouth at the sight of Kip’s obviously racing thoughts. Maybe he was also thinking the same thing, how things had happened last week, agreeing to have a repeat of that. Or maybe that was just what Kip wanted out of this, what he wanted to believe.

“Or you can just say no and we can leave it at that and --”

“I-I’ll do anything.”

The words slipped out of his mouth before Kip could stop himself, the desperation in his voice so obvious he couldn’t help but the wince a little afterwards. Of course he meant it, but he wasn’t supposed to show weakness like that, not at a moment like this, not so openly to someone like Cassidy. The blond just looked at him, slowly raising one brow at him, this time Kip being sure there was a smirk accompanying his glance.

“…Anything?”

Kip slowly nodded. This was the one title that had meant so much to him, the only one he had held in recent memory that made him even somewhat relevant in the eyes of the audience. He craved the compliments he got while carrying it around and wearing it, he missed the weight of it on his shoulders, both physically and metaphorically, he missed the glimmer of gold that was truly his. The one thing that Kip had won, that gave him admiration, attention, a reason. He missed it. Kip missed all of it.

And yes. He was so ready to do anything to get it back. Anything Cassidy threw at him would be worth it, to get that title back on his shoulder, around his waist, to have those feelings of importance and meaning again.

Kip watched, in slight confusion, as Cassidy suddenly turned around on his heels, sluggishly making his way back inside the hotel room, leaving the door open after him. Kip stared at the empty, open doorway for a moment, it slowly dawning on him that this was an invitation for him. He could feel his heartbeat growing faster at the sudden realization that it was just going to be the two of them, at this late of an hour, together in Cassidy’s otherwise empty hotel room.

Kip tried to shake the thought off as he stepped past the threshold and inside the room, slowly closing the door after him. He had to remind himself that he was here for the title, for the shot he deserved to regain it, and that was it. Just because it happened to be with Cassidy was irrelevant. He would have done this with anyone else too. Maybe not like this, maybe he would have been more patient with someone else, but Kip definitely would have demanded a title shot. He --

“Come here.”

Kip looked at him, spotting Cassidy sitting at the end of the bed, slowly patting the spot next to him. Kip hesitated for a moment before he managed to get his feet moving again, slowly approaching the bed and the blond sitting on it. He felt nervous, without really being able to put a finger on why. He forcefully pushed the memory of Cassidy pinning him against the couch a week ago out of his mind, knowing this time wouldn’t be like that. This situation was different, he had no reason to try the same trick on him twice.

Kip finally sat on the bed next to him, watching as Cassidy inhaled deeply, leaning his arms against his legs as he leaned forward on his spot, clearly switching gears into a thinking mode. Kip didn’t bother to ask him anything, it was fairly obvious that he was running through scenarios on how the Brit would be showing that he had earned another title shot after just losing to him. Cassidy wasn’t the kind of person to really plan much ahead, he thought more on the spot, or so Kip had at least noticed throughout the torment he had put the blond through in the past months. So it didn’t really look like he had planned for this either, for Kip coming up to him and demanding a title shot, and being put into this position of having to come up with something.

God he would be such a boring champion.

“Can I ask you something?”

Kip scanned the side of his face, staying quiet as Cassidy didn’t look back at him despite asking the question and waiting for an answer. The silence seemed to be enough for him though, as he continued.

“Are you really here only for the title?”

Kip looked at him, feeling an odd lump in his throat that he was sure wasn’t there before. He nodded his head quickly though, before clearing his voice a little.

“Of, of course.”

Cassidy snorted, still not looking at him, but Kip could see the teasing smile playing on his lips.

“You’re lying.”

Kip didn’t reply to him, only watched as Cassidy finally turned back towards him. The odd combination of both softness and intensity in his eyes was almost mesmerizing, Kip hadn’t really paid much attention to it before if he was being honest. Usually when he saw Cassidy without the sunglasses was inside the ring, in a differently heated moment where he had a reputation and a fighting spirit to keep up to, which was so much different than the sleepy, almost domesticated feel to the look he was giving to Kip here.

“You’re really telling me that you are here, at two in the morning, in my hotel room, when you could have done that at any point tomorrow or even tonight, just through a simple text message or a call, begging for a title shot that barely matters… And that’s all?”

Kip slowly and hesitantly nodded, getting an uncharacteristically emotive chuckle back from Cassidy who just shook his head, the smile now very obvious on his lips as he just kept looking back at Kip.

“You’re a terrible fucking liar.”

Kip opened his mouth to reply, but he had no words. He could have just easily lied about it, but something in his head was preventing him from saying any of that. Something in him didn’t make him want to sit there and lie at Cassidy, not directly to his face, but at the same time he couldn’t admit the true nature of things to him.

He could barely admit it to himself that maybe, maybe there was something a little bit more to this and his impatient passion than just regaining the title. Because Cassidy was right, he could have waited, he could have done this at any point, without being so aggressively over the top about it, without not wanting to waste any chance Kip could get to end up in this position.

The position where Cassidy suddenly, yet clearly deliberately leaned closer towards him while Kip was weighting through his potential replies, with ease cupping one of Kip’s cheeks into his hand as the Brit wasn’t even trying to stop him or resist against the touch, pressing their lips against one another.

Kip couldn’t lie to him, because he wanted this. He had hoped for this. Fuck, he had begged in his mind to put back into this position, and there were no known words on this whole goddamn planet that he could say to make it appear otherwise.

Kip slowly responded to the lazy kiss, Cassidy almost immediately pulling away from him, erupting an annoyed groan from Kip. Cassidy just smiled at him, knowing that he got him in the palm of his hand so easily, both figuratively and literally as his thumb ran over the Brit’s cheek.

“I don’t like it when you lie to me, Kip.”

The way Cassidy said his name sent shivers down Kip’s spine. The soft, yet stern voice put him under a spell he couldn’t escape from. Not that he wanted to, but the hold it had of him was like no other, the soft touch against the heating skin of his cheek just adding a layer to it all that made it feel like a dream Kip didn’t want to wake up from.

“I’m… I’m sorry.”

Cassidy tilted his head, almost acting coy before he leaned closer again, trailing a row of soft kisses along Kip’s jawline. He bit his lip to hold back a moan, his breathing tightening as Kip could feel his heart rate increasing against his will at the touch of Cassidy’s lips against the scruff covering his skin while his hands worked to unbutton the rest of the Brit’s shirt with ease. Finally his hot breath tickled against Kip’s ear as Cassidy’s lips reached it, a clear smile in his voice as he whispered, “Good boy.”

Kip flinched a little, pulling away from Cassidy’s touch, taking in a deep breath, much shakier than he expected it to be. Cassidy just looked at him, the smile still playing on his lips, barely visible yet so comforting that Kip couldn’t help but to rush forward, wanting to wipe that look from his face before Cassidy could unlock more embarrassing feelings out of him, pulling the blond into a kiss. Cassidy chuckled at him, giving Kip the moment he needed to deepen the kiss.

The next few moments passed him by in a bizarre haze of passion, Kip feeling the blond moving into his lap with ease, stripping him out of the already unbuttoned shirt, hands moving into his hair to run through it. The few gentle tucks of his hair made Kip moan quietly against the kiss, in the end Cassidy clearly taking the hint as it felt like he was doing it on purpose to work Kip up, letting him barely catch his breath anymore.

As the kiss was finally broken apart, Cassidy stopped to admire his handiwork; the disheveled hair, flustered cheeks, closed eyes, and slightly parted lips as Kip was trying to steady his breathing to stop his head from spinning, looking so euphoric in his state that Cassidy let out a few swears of his own in his mind at the piece of art he had created. He hadn’t stopped before to ask himself if this was the right thing to do, but seeing Kip right there in front of him melting against his touch on more levels than just one, he knew this was what he wanted to begin with. Since last week, in fact. But…

“Hey.”

Kip didn’t open his eyes, still trying to steady himself and his spinning head, but he nodded a little in acknowledgment.

“If… If you want to stop, it’s okay. You’ve earned your shot.”

Kip’s brows furrowed but his eyes remained shut, just listening to Cassidy’s words. The blond wanted to make it very clear he wasn’t going to push the boundaries more unless this was a mutual feeling between both of them. Honestly it had started as Cassidy just trying to see how serious Kip was about all of this title shot talk after what Cassidy himself had done to get his shot the week before, but somewhere down the line since Kip had appeared unannounced and clearly so, so desperate on the doorstep of his hotel room, something had changed.

He didn’t want to see how far Kip was willing to go anymore. Maybe it was because the things he would do were becoming fairly obvious, or maybe Cassidy just wanted this to be more… Mutually enjoyable and beneficial moment instead. Something a bit more than just him trying to tease Kip into backing down.

“Unless you… Want to go on.”

“I… I do.”

Kip was still clearly out of breath, but he nodded his head again, Cassidy feeling the fingertips digging into his hips, only now really taking notice where Kip’s hands had been this entire time. “I do. I really… Really do.”

Sensing nothing but sincerity in his words, Cassidy leaned closer again, stealing a soft peck from Kip’s lips before he pushed himself up on his feet from his lap. Kip’s eyes opened as he felt the body heat of the blond disappear from his immediate vicinity, his cheeks flushing even deeper color of red as he saw Cassidy kneeling down in front of him, hands working on undoing his belt.

Kip almost wanted to ask him to stop, a sudden wave of shame and vulnerability washing over him, but as Cassidy continued to undress him without any objections, the clearly careful and practiced movements of his hands tucking the tight jeans down, Kip just found himself biting his lip to stop himself from letting out a single sound, just enjoying the brushes of Cassidy’s rough hands against his exposed skin, just the mere contact making Kip grow slightly more and more insane each time.

As Cassidy struggled a bit with the final pull of the pants, Kip wiggled his way back on the bed, the movement helping to release his legs from the denim trap. There was something almost perverse about it, how Kip was now laying on the unfamiliar hotel bed only in his underwear, watching as Cassidy crawled back on it, still fully clothed, leaning over him as the blond observed every bit of Kip, inch by inch, as if he wanted to consume all of him.

And honestly, Kip absolutely wanted him to do all of that.

Cassidy’s hand traced up his toned midsection, a line of fingers running between his pecs, raising goosebumps on Kip’s skin.

“Has anyone told you that you’re beautiful?”

Cassidy looked straight at him, Kip having to actually turn away to avert the gaze, feeling the words catching in his throat. He wanted to reply something back to him so badly, but Kip was afraid of stammering, saying the wrong thing, making a fool out of himself. Making all of this stop if he said something that Cassidy didn’t want to hear.

Kip could feel Cassidy’s hand climbing up from his chest, pressing onto his cheek, slowly but firmly turning Kip’s face back towards him. Cassidy smiled down at him, “Because I think you’re beautiful.”

Kip’s cheeks were burning, even more so as the blond leaned in for another kiss. Stealing the wind out of his lungs with ease as Cassidy locked their lips together, Kip tried to keep any coherent thoughts going on. Which was extremely difficult for him, as he could feel Cassidy’s soft lips against his, his tongue in Kip’s mouth, his hands wandering around the side of his face and the other in his hair. Kip felt like a mess under his grasp, melting into a puddle of his own wants and desires, drowning in the shows of affection he had been craving for the entire night.

Cassidy pulled away first, Kip leaning up after him, trying to hold onto the kiss for as long as possible. Cassidy hummed a little at his longing for the affection, clearly content with the response he was receiving, pressing a quick kiss on Kip’s cheek instead.

“You’re so beautiful I think I know exactly what I want to do with you.”

Kip was completely at his mercy, feeling Cassidy’s hands leaving his face and his hair, helping the blond hover over his body instead as Cassidy slowly kissed his way down him. First along his jaw, then his neck, leaving little nibbles on the soft skin, erupting almost embarrassingly soft moans from Kip. Cassidy chuckled at him, stopping for a moment to watch Kip throw one arm over his face, his cheeks so hot out of both desire and embarrassment that he didn’t want to think about Cassidy even looking at him.

“Kip…”

“Ju-just keep going.” His voice was quiet, almost whiny, demanding. And yet he was begging, like the pathetic, needy one he was. Cassidy just looked at him for a moment, before lowering his lips back against his skin, continuing to kiss down his features all the way down over Kip’s chest and his abdomen, only stopping as his hands brushed against the only piece of garment still covering the Brit, in reaction Kip’s hands shooting closer to tangle into Cassidy’s hair, stopping him in place.

The blond glanced up at Kip from under his brows, clearly curious, watching him breath heavily as Kip contemplated his options. Him stopping Cassidy on his tracks was a reflex, one that he didn’t want to act on but had no other choice, already feeling awkward enough in the situation he was put in. But Cassidy just continued to smile at him, that same smile that Kip had seen from him throughout the night; it was confident, soft, full of comfort and understanding.

“It’s okay,” Cassidy almost purred at him, Kip watching as he carefully untangled his hand from his hair. “Trust me.”

Kip suddenly sat up, Cassidy’s brows furrowing a bit at this sudden change, forcing him to sit back up as well. Cassidy’s hand was quick to cup Kip’s face again, the Brit leaning immediately into the comforting touch, letting out a shaky breath.

“You do want to do this, right?”

Kip nodded, rubbing his cheek against the palm of Cassidy’s hand a little. The smile was fast to return to the blond’s lips, as he leaned closer to Kip, pressing a soft kiss on his lips, followed by his free hand gently pushing Kip back down against the bed.

“So let me handle this. I promise you, you’re in good hands.”

Kip wasn’t denying that, he wasn’t denying wanting this either. He really did, and he knew he just needed to get over that first hurdle of not feeling so ridiculously embarrassed to let someone else take over him. Kip could feel Cassidy’s hands running over the cloth, letting out a soft whine in response. As Cassidy chuckled at him softly, Kip’s head whipped to the side, cheeks burning as he couldn’t look back at the blond again.

“Just relax.” Cassidy’s voice flowed through him, Kip shivering a bit, hoping Cassidy didn’t catch onto it. “Lay back, look gorgeous for me and… Keep moaning.” Kip closed his eyes, inhaling sharply as he could feel Cassidy’s fingers almost impatiently tiptoeing over his underwear. “I like it when you do that. Alright?”

Kip nodded his head, letting out a quiet whine in response.

“Good Kip,” Cassidy whispered, Kip feeling the last garment covering him being slowly stripped off of his body.

#fic #character: kip sabian #character: orange cassidy #ship: orangekip #aew fanfiction #wrestling fanfiction

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introvertedlass · 8 months

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Every time I come on here I see blogs fighting about a wedding and engagement lol.

You are one of the most level-headed blogs on here so I thought maybe you'd appreciate this. If you don't, totally okay as well.

I've been pretty convinced of whose behind the "not so" recent engagement/dating rumors but I'm also suspicious of one of the earliest DM Anons that started talking about them dating back in like Jan-Feb 2022. I hope someone somewhere has the SS of the DM who said, "Can confirm CE/AB have been dating for OVER A YEAR." I don't remember the exact phrasing, but they used the exact over a year term, back in Jan 2022. If my memory serves correct, this same anon alluded to AB's circle knowing about it bc it being known in PT.

Like 10 months later, the People mag announcement drops and literally uses the phrase "over a year." Except, This was like 10 months later, so over a year from Jan 2022, according to the DM anon, would mean they met back in like early 2021 or earlier (2020??) which would be virtually impossible due to Covid restrictions and the fact that there's concrete Justin/AB IG proof that she was entertaining Lucas Bravo during late 2020-2021. However, this DOES potentially support the theory that the earliest DM anon was pushing a narrative for AB/CE to go public maybe spring 2022 (like some ppl theorized, due to AB's Paris movie/WN supposed to be dropping earlier). That people announcement also steered 1000% in AB's favor. Yes, it's CE's teams go to mag, but the majority of the article was singing AB's (limited praises), saying she was some type of humanitarian and can speak so many languages, and all of his fam/friends adore her. All they wrote about CE was that he was the SMA (lol). It felt very much like we're doing this for you, AB - so you get the spotlight. And yes, her show dropped that same day.

I'm sorry...but this never really sat right with me. Her debut 1000% took away from CE's SMA announcement, and the fans went berserk and the GP was also pretty blindsided. Nobody was really happy about it but just confused and the fans were melting down and angry. The only person who really benefited from all this was AB, who - at the time, seemed pretty happy about all the new attention and followers she was getting.

Something somewhere went wrong to cause her to post her shower nightmare. But since then, the "engagement" rumors started to make traction - first, from the dumb Pantene twitter, and later, making its way to the lame radar online gossip rag. The radar online article ending with, "we have reached out to CE's reps and awaiting a comment or response." Interesting that nobody needed to ask AB's rep, just CE's. Either she's that irrelevant even to third rate tabloids, or...you know the rest. Every single time, the engagement rumors push "AB is so amazing, CE is so in love, all of his fam/friend adore her, she's so modest and private, but he wants to go big for her".

PT/Brazil tabloids keep pushing the narrative, and more and more ppl are supposedly confirming, including Justin's Dad? (LOL)

All people have to do is look at who is continuously benefiting from these rumors. Even if every single one of AB's family members and ppl she went to grammar school with "confirm" the wedding to tabloids, I'm still not buying it. Mostly because AB may literally be the dumbest human on the planet if she STILL thinks that getting every single person on her turf confirming/trolling on behalf of her, doesn't make her just as guilty. Girl...you saying nothing and pretending you don't care and don't troll, but your cousin's sister's fiancé's best friend talks to tabloids confirming your marriage...who do you think all of this will trace back to? (Why would CE's team need to ask your grandma's hairdresser to spill deets to a tabloid? They could literally just go to TMZ themselves LOL bc of his status in HW)

It's completely valid for team real to believe they are getting married. By all "appearances," it makes more sense they would be than not, simply bc they made the relationship public and their names are attached to each other, and neither has denied the rumors. So team real does have ammo, and the Queen blog believing their source doesn't make them liars, it just makes their source convincing enough for them to believe them.

But what I need people to remember is that there's one person who's benefiting from these engagement rumors and it's not CE. His family/friends have virtually gone into hiding to avoid having to be harassed every time more rumors pop up. His fanbase is the one threatening to drop him if he gets married to her. AB's fanbase doesn't seem to care, and if she married him, it wouldn't be bad for her career or image, it would only serve her good. It's pretty darn easy to figure out who's most likely pushing the rumors and continuously in the most roundabout and manipulative ways. Whose relevancy will completely fall back into obscurity if the rumors don't end up being true? Whose name has benefited from these rumors since late 2021, and now has ppl outside of PT talking about them, simply bc they "got into a relationship?"

Thank you for sharing this detailed ask. You bring up a lot of valid points that explain what many of us having been thinking since the start of this show. And, tbh there have been times where I can see why people could see this as real. Not judging them, people believe what they believe- me included. However there have been so many anomalies for me that it is impossible to believe that this is anything but a manufactured show. I appreciate you writing this in such a concise manner as it has reaffirmed my thinking. 🙂

#chris evans #pr nightmare

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jaetyun · 19 days

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blog reccs.

i'm sure these ppl w thousands of followers do not a shoutout but this isn't a charity case i just rlly like these blogs!! life is too short to not appreciate blogs whose writings styles deserve appreciation

@tocupid

make no mistake this is NAWT just bc it's luan and he's arguably one of my bsfs... we both started this shit tgt and he deserves as much attention as i've gotten if not more

@heesdreamer

now i don't pick favorites cause that makes for parasocial relationships... however if i DID pick a favorite it would be heesdreamer! i'm gonna be fr rn idk their pronouns they just came back from hiatus and those fics r some of the most jaw droppingly delectable things ive ever read and they're probs the only blog i consistently go back to reread their stuff

@ijhyo

you can literally tell how much thought goes into every work and it always pays off so well. for me at least i think i'm the worst at making a strong beginning but every single exposition from him is genuinely so impressive like one thing you can always count on from him is he knows how to make a HOOK

@asahicore

one of the first ppl i started consistently lurking on their blog and each time she releases something new it never fails to impress me! there's such like a cute tender quality to all of her stuff i feel so giddy reading them cause it truly feels like she's describing something that happened to me i didn't know about

@jayflrt

i know everyone on engeneblr (is that the name for it?? enhablr?? idk..) already knows how good her smaus are and don't get me wrong alice knows hiw to WRITE AN SMAU!!! but her written stuff is just as good like the jake spiderman au was my first introduction to her blog. she's also so fucking funny i feel like at some point ive probably quoted a fic of hers i wouldn't even be surprised.

@jaylver

i used to have a ss from win one win me for like over a year that i deleted cause im an IDIOT but that's how much it stuck out as sum special to me GOD i love her writing style. a lot of people don't know how to write dialogue and make their characters say shit that nobody actually says but everything is so natural it sounds like a convo rin overheard and written down that's how good it is

even though i no longer write/read for zb1 i'm morally obligated to say misa @keita-terazono and venom @zerobaseonefics are still some of the most delectable writers here and also so funny and genuine PLEEEASSEE check my zumblr bffs out !!

#jae reccs #enhypen #txt #tomorrow x tomorrow #zerobase one

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yokohamapound · 2 years

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I am WEAK for pet names, can we have some hcs for pet names Dazai, Ranpo, Yosano, Akutagawa, Chuuya and Fyodor would call you?

My first request on this blog! Listen, I'm a huge slut for pet names. This is my first time dipping my toes in this fandom so thanks for helping me ease my way in. <3

Characters: Dazai Osamu, Edogawa Ranpo, Yosano Akiko, Nakahara Chuuya, Akutagawa Ryuunosuke, Fyodor Dostoevsky

Warnings: NSFW, suicide mention (Dazai ofc)

Dazai Osamu

Pet names fall from Dazai’s lips as easily as lies. He’s well known for addressing every woman in his vicinity (except Yosano, because he’s not that suicidal) with beautiful, sweetheart, bella/belladonna, darling. Usually followed an enquiry as to whether they’d use those pretty hands to strangle him.

This might make any sweet appellations he gives you seem throwaway or disingenuous but once you’ve known Dazai for long enough, you can pick up the change in his tone when he says them—still flirtatious, but sincere.

He doesn’t actually use your name that often, but that means when he does, it carries extra weight. The situation at hand is serious—deadly, heavy, or just emotional.

He abuses the suffix “-chan” so much it’s filing a restraining order against him.

Edogawa Ranpo

Now, you know Ranpo calls you by the things he values most—his snacks.

Honey, bonbon, cupcake, sweetie...

If it’s sweet and snack-related, then it’s probably been applied to you at some point in time. Sometimes he just uses whatever he’s most recently been snacking on. Pickle was an...interesting one. Didn’t land quite the way he wanted to when you started laughing hysterically, so he saves that one for when he’s in a silly, goofy mood.

He did once open his eyes, smirk, and call you sugar~ which hit different.

Yosano Akiko

Akiko likes to maintain her composure and professional veneer around others, so if you’re part of the ADA, you’ll probably be addressed just by name most of the time. You might get a “-chan” or “-kun” tacked on the end if she’s in a particularly good mood.

That’s not to say Yosano’s cold, but she doesn’t want to seem too soft in front of her colleagues or clients. She has a reputation to uphold.

When she shucks the white coat and goes home, however, things loosen up a bit. Expect honey, sweetheart, or even darling if she’s feeling extra-romantic.

I think she’s also tested out nicknames that edge toward some of her darker proclivities, but my little chainsaw didn’t have quite the ring she was looking for, so she stuck to more conventional ones.

Akutagawa Ryuunosuke

It takes a long, long time for Akutagawa to call you anything other than your name, if he uses your name at all. Oftentimes it’s just you. He also liberally calls people idiot, fool, and cur.

Not that those will generally be applied to you. The occasional exasperated idiot might slip past his lips, but he generally reserves the disaparaging nicknames for his subordinates or his enemies.

Akutagawa is reluctant to open up and expose his feelings for you or say anything that can be mocked, but he might tentatively add a “-chan” to the end of your name now and then.

But the real kicker is when he leaned down one day, probably mid-fuck, and called you kitten.

Toes were curled that day. Moans were heard from afar.

Nakahara Chuuya

Chuuya, (oh, Chuuya <3), is almost as bad as Dazai for having a list of pet names as long as his arm. The difference being that he usually only applies them to his s/o rather than every woman around. Unless he’s being snarky.

Let’s see here: doll, dollface, babydoll, sweetheart, baby, babe, honey, sweetheart, darlin’, prince/ss, love, lovely...

I could go on.

He has also referred to you as a dime piece more than a few times. Chuuya has that 1920s gangster aesthetic about him so him picking up slang from that time period just fits.

Chuuya uses pet names liberally. Usually every other sentence, to be honest. He’s a simp for his s/o and he literally can’t help himself unless he’s around his colleagues in the Port Mafia, where he has a reputation to maintain. In which case he limits himself to a tame babe.

Fyodor Dostoevsky

The ever-mysterious Fyodor. Who knows what’s going on in that guy’s head? I’m going to be a predictable little bitch here and say that he very likely has a few Russian terms of endearments tucked up his sleeve. (I don’t speak Russian so apologies if any of these are wrong/inaccurate.)

Rodnoy/Rodnaya (m/f) - approx. “my dear”

Zolotse - approx. “gold/golden”

Myshka - “little mouse” (perfect for our rat man)

Or dropping the odd compliment like umnitsa “clever”, when you understand one of his fucky little plans.

In general, I feel like he goes for quite simple, non-cutesy terms of endearment. Almost a little old fashioned—my dear, my darling, my love.

Usually with a “my” tacked on the front because you are, after all, his~

#Yokohama Pound #Bungou Stray Dogs #BSD imagines #BSD headcanons #Dazai Osamu #Edogawa Ranpo #Yosano Akiko #Akutagawa Ryuunosuke #Nakahara Chuuya #Fyodor Dostoevsky #Dazai x Reader #Ranpo x Reader #Yosano x Reader #Akutagawa x Reader #Chuuya x Reader #Fyodor x Reader #tw: suicide mention #bsd smut

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hwajin · 2 years

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⁂ 𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐟𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐬 - 𝐚 𝐜𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 ⁂

keep reading to participate!

ఌ︎ .. 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐤 𝐲𝐨𝐮!!

hi!! soooo this is a little special i decided to do for reaching 2k followers!!! honestly i can't quite believe it, that's such a big number that it,xs almost scary jfjwkfjne BUT THANK YOUUUU to everyone who keeps interacting with me, this blog and my writings!! aaaand special thank you to all the wonderful mutuals and friends on here that make writing and sticking around super fun hehe, i love all of you a LOT <3

ఌ︎ .. 𝐜𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐛 - 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭

ok now to the actual collab jcnwjfje SO. the closer rules and details are listed below, but basically- almost any writer who wants to participate in this project is free to do so!! i planned to do this thing kinda wintery since it is the middle of winter jfjsjfnsb, but it is perfectly fine if there's no season mentioned in your fic, meaning the fic itself doesn't have to revolve around winter and the season itself is not required to be the main thing!! i just figured a theme would be kinda nice hehe.

ఌ︎ .. 𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐬

now to the rules, please please PLEASE read them all and carefully to avoid any miscommunication!!

any genre is allowed, from smut to fluff to angst to horror, whatever you can imagine

in relation to the previous rule, you have to be 18+!!! even if you were to write a sfw fic, the fact that there very likely will be smut written in this collab, having minors participating would overstep a boundary!!!!

also in relation to the first rule, please keep nsfw works legal and safe!! kinkier and heavier stuff in general is allowed, but if you are unsure of anything you plan please let me know beforehand!!

the minimum for words you can write is 500, please add the "read more" future if you write more than that! the maximum of words is literally the roof, if you wanna write a 25k+ word fic GO FOR IT

i'll say it again, your fic does not have to be a winter fic per say! i'll simply list tropes that fit the season in my opinion jfjejdje but if you don't really feel the vibe or hate winter then that's totally fine!!

the deadline to write/ post your fic i planned would be on february 28th since winter kinda ends- with february?? but the date can still be altered if needed!!

ఌ︎ .. 𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐩𝐚𝐭𝐞

please read this very carefully as well!!

if you want to participate, send me a dm, and ask, or reblog this post with the tag #winterfalls!

please let me know if you want to participate until december 20th!! requests to particiapte after this date will not be accepted anymore!!

please dm me the trope and the member you would like to write for until december 20th as well!!

in general, you can choose and write for whatever member and whatever trope you want, i will let you know if the certain combination was chosen already, or if one member was picked too often though, so you can reconsider! (for better understanding, i won't set a limit of only 8 people participating in this collab to fit stray kids, so some members will obviously be written about more than once!)

i will create a groupchat here on tumblr if i can figure out how to kfmsmfnns to keep the project a bit more organized, if you don't want to be added to it though please let me know!!

ఌ︎ .. (𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐲) 𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐩𝐞𝐬

you are free to use your own tropes/ scenarios if you like, those are only examples!

sharing one bed

seeing the first snow together

building snowmen

sharing a kiss/ fucking on new year's eve

trapped in a snow storm (together 👀 alone 👀)

keeping each other warm

skiing trip/ winter vacation in general

making snowangels

(spicy) present buying/ unpacking

decorating together

baking cookies

sex by the fire (🎶 at night 🎶) did i already make this joke once maybe

anything fantasy!! eg. vampires and werewolfes, snowprinces/ss, jack frost type of things!!

and obv simple classics like: (you can combine these with the previous tropes!!)

enemies to lovers

friends to lovers

exes to lovers

fwb

soulmate au

break up

idol au

slice of life

etc. etc.!!

that's basically it!! i hope the one or other writer is ready to participate, i'd really really appreciate it!! and if you have any questions regarding participating (or anything really) don't be shy to dm me!!

- 𝐤𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐲 <3

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simpoot · 2 years

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Well, firstly, happy new year, and it seems that another is literally at the horizon! I hope you all had nice holidays!

Secondly, when I started this blog, I honestly was nervous and didn't think that my work had any merit, but well, thank you! Thank you for enjoying what I write! I feel miles more confident in my work because of all you!

And, so, I have an extensive thank you list for some of my mutual's and my anons!

@serend1p1ty-0 → One of my closest friends now, you hopefully already know how much I adore you and your presence. Publicly I'll say that you're a menace with your hottakes (onceler and ralsei), but I wouldn't change it for the world, and you're the only one I'll allow to call me Poo. Thank you for being friends with me <3

@dreamwvrld → QUEEN you already know how big of a fan I am of you. Thank you for noticing me pestering your ask box! Your quality of work is something I strive to have! You make me simp for SS!Techno the more you release the chapters :D

@inniterhq → We don't interact much, but when you complimented my first post I actually fangirled a little (I was a reader before a writer ok). And sending you asks about Bikiniblade, Bikinibur and Dreamkini, then instigating an army to canonically kill me were definitely highlights for me (I'm sorta sorry, it was funny though)

@sushisoot → you're very pog and your taste in anime men is relatable. It's actually scary because I simped so hard for Hawks (a while ago now) and now you've come out as a Hawks stan. Anyway, I adore your writing (both on here and on Wattpad, yes I know...) and you seem like such a nice person! We do not interact enough! :D

@allywritesforfun → Your dialogue is still to die for and your plots. You're so considerate of other people, I could never? You're so inquisitive and I think that's wonderful, you're great. Plus the idea you had for the writer's discord was actually pure genius!

@meliancries → I love your random updates, I really hope you get the rest you need while you're on break! Also, thank you for being one of my first anons, I really appreciated it!

@bugsinmycoldsoup → All my interactions with you have been so wonderful, you're so fun! And I still think back to your royal Wilbur fic, definitely one of my favourites

@toiletwipes I see you there, lurking... in the shadows... Well no more! I present to you: me fangirling over you. I LOVE your Simpbur fic, you do not understand how much I bark at it. And the vibes on your blog are unparalleled (I love going through your blog it's such a trip)

@mikeyinnit → I know we haven't interacted much, BUT, you're wonderful. Your blog is so comfortable and that's because of how wonderful you are!

@nightmarefox15 → I know we don't interact much either, but I appreciate you so much. You won't see this for a bit but your wonderful, and seeing your presence on Tumblr is so comforting.

@crwnedprnce → We met recently! And yeah we do talk about me recognising you on our first meeting (I saw your fantastic writing and forgot to follow unfortunately but that's corrected now)! I'm glad I met you, us adventuring together on Minecraft was a... something with how much I died :D

@boiled-onionrings → You're the best! Basically since day one you've been supporting my work, your comments and asks never failed to make me smile! I hope you're doing well!

@taylorgamer → Another new one! Taylor!! You're very pog!!! From what I've seen you're very kind and I'm looking forward to our future interactions!

@sootrecs previously known as 🌝 anon → we haven't interacted too much yet but I'm excited for future interactions as you seem so kind, and you're supporting writers by reblogging their work is just so??? Pog, you're pog!

Special mention to @wingedghostpepper who somehow always likes all my posts, idk how you do it, but you do and I appreciate you <3

And those who I didn't mention, know that I notice you, and I still appreciate you (this post could've mentioned all my mutual's, even the ones who I've had no interaction with, as you're all fantastic, but then this post would've been way too long)!

ok now onto my anons because I am in my ✨parasocial✨ arc:

🍄 anon → I love you (/p). Even if you're not as active currently, you've got a space in my heart and blog (you definitely helped me establish my blog vibe if that makes sense)! Sometimes I think about you, like ‘oh I wonder how 🍄 anon is’ and I'm like huh is that weird??? You're fantastic

🌙 anon → I'm proud of you, go live your life Queen! :D your ideas are so interesting and deep too, like the musical based idea you had a while back!

C!Tubbo anon → MY MANNNNN!!! KING!! I appreciate you aLOT, you're lively and I enjoy your presence more than you could ever know

🐌 anon → I adore hearing the small things you're up to, it makes me smile! You're also living my dream with cuddling dogs >:(

C!Sally anon → Your ongoing plotline with your new baby is captivating to read :D and you seem so nice and wholesome!

:D anon → You're big pog! And also! I've got your request stored! And it's so cute and I'm looking forward to writing it, so don't worry about me having deleted it <3!!!

🪰 anon → You're unbelievably kind and I wish nothing but the best for you! And I hope that you're taking care of yourself!

And if I didn't mention you here, I also appreciate you. I just decided to talk about those who are/were most active. But, know that I remember pretty much everyone who appears in my ask box and I appreciate you coming on here in the first place <3

#pootspeaks #i tagged so many people omg i am so sorry #i literally couldve tagged all my mutuals #this was me holding back #dear god #its 7am and i havent slept #i was too busy writing this chunky post #i am going to wake up at 6pm god DAMN IT #pootspeaks? more like poot speaks too fucking much

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stuckinapatriarchalbullshitland · 3 years

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Enzo anon here - the more this era is progressing, my theory about gaymila being used as damage control and for profit seems to be happenening.

I have some thoughts that I know many other CS share, i think it would be good to summarise what i’ve seen on different blogs into one post as well as adding my own theory. So this will be a long one but i hope you guys find it insightful and Stuck thank you again for giving me a space on your blog!

Let’s look back on CC2 and the aftermath of its release. A quick disclaimer : I’ll only be addressing her situation in terms of the social/PR aspect as we have no idea what other factors might be at play such as contracts and money etc.

It’s fair to say that C was and is not in a good place reputation wise. Señorita was of course a smash hit but was mostly used to promote S. Her fans complained about C almost becoming a double act with S. These fans understandably signed up for C, not S and so subsequently most of them unfollowed her on SM and stopped paying attention to her to escape the constant Showmila. For the GP, Showmila became a mockery and so it’s asking a lot from her fans to stay when she was constantly embarrassing herself to the point that it made it uncomfortable for them. Of course with this comes the racist controversies also involving Normani which brought back the entire 5H feud. This put C even further than she already was against LAND and so the narrative that she was hated by the other girls for being obnoxious and attention seeking was further reinforced by her being racist towards N. All of this made/makes Camila extremely easy to hate, to the public she seems like a privileged straight girl who has never once had any sort of difficulty or obstacle in her life.

On the CS side of the fandom, many having left after having enough of the Showmila circus, leaves very few CS to fight back against the narrative. Even more leave after Lauren’s bombshell of a podcast. For example, this graph from google trends show how searches for “camren” or “camila cabello camren” are/were decreasing.

We know that CS are a very large part of C’s fanbase so who are we left with ? Many solo C stans all have converted into SS accounts and again even then S takes the main focus, not C. So… its not looking good, having people being fans of yours only for your relationship is a risky move business wise. We’ve all wanted Showmila to end for a long while and we definitely can all agree that the end is long overdue, infact a lot of us believe that had there not been the pandemic they would’ve broken up a while ago. So where does C stand now? Well, in my opinion, after this entire circus (which unfortunately is still ongoing) C is in a very vulnerable position. How does she promote her upcoming album with so much of her fanbase gone? Perhaps a big break up album? That option doesn’t sound great when she most likely will get the short end of the stick narrative wise and be further disliked by the little fans she does has left. If Camila doesn’t have Shawn anymore, the SS will most likely all disappear leaving her with a very limited amount of people who have the guts to actually publicly support her. Another option she could have is to keep riding on this relationship until people get bored, only that’s already happening and Showmila does not have the punch it once did to get a second Señorita. What about a fake pregnancy or a marriage? God we hope not and I really believe that Camila would do anything in her power to avoid that as we’ve seen how extremely unhappy she seems just being his girlfriend. For all we know Shawn might be very against this idea too and even if they did go along with it would it really be enough to promote CC3 ? After a few weeks the excitement would have died down again and leave them both back to square one. Not to mention that C getting married/pregnant would make even some of her most dedicated fans leave for good and would still not be enough to get her out of the racist accusations.

This is where my theory comes into play, however i think her team will only follow through with this if they are smart and if they aren’t actually sabotaging her. This past year I watched as Taylor Swift released her two albums and broke numerous records and achieved incredible success. I do not think this success would’ve been achieved had it not been for the insane rise in speculation over her sexuality due to her new songs. T is of course a household name, she’s earned her place amongst the top artists of this generation but people were starting to get bored hearing dramatic songs about her oh so difficult love life being a straight white girl. This is why when folklore and evermore came out there was so much buzz and excitement about T possibly being LGBTQ to the point that it found it’s way to the GP. People were wondering what these gay songs with gay lyrics were and so they went to listen for themselves. Eventually tons and tons of extra streams and talk generated from people who would’ve otherwise never paid attention. Myself included. You can see below on google trends the massive increase in online searches for “gaylor swift”. The gaylor side of tumblr also expanded as there had never been so many songs with so much queer interpretations to analyse and discuss and more and more of the GP were getting curious enough to read the blogs. Regardless if you think Taylor is gay or not, the general public discussing it was an essential part in improving her image for Gen Z and promoting her albums thus creating $$$ for her team and label.

Keeping this in mind, I believe that C might (not having many options left to salvage her career/reputation) take a page out of TS’s book and have an era that will attract more LGBT fans than ever before. We’ve seen how camren is slowly coming back. Even just by C liking a picture of L’s it was enough to bring back out a whole lot of fans who had abandoned her. Her team see this, they know this, they are aware. If talks of Camila being gay will generate more $$$ they will use that to their advantage and push out the new gay narrative as much as they can. I don’t think she will explicitly come out any time soon, and i don’t think that they will “confirm camren” but this era will definitely set her up for it in the future like the way it has for TS and it will give her a stable fanbase for a long while, which at the moment she is in dire need of.

Although C would’ve probably liked her relationship with L to remain private I think she may have no other choice but to use it more than she ever has before to save herself. Sadly no amount of self improvement and apologies will ever erase her racist past, it will follow her forever and people will never stop talking about it, unless there’s something more interesting to discuss. That’s the way the internet works, a photo of camren together in 2021/2022 would generate more buzz than anything Showmila related. Not only would all of the CS who left come back but all the anti-CS would be talking about it too and an entire wave of new fans would be interested enough to join. There would be no room to talk about Camila Cabello being racist when Camila Cabello is actually gay/dating Lauren Jauregui is the new talk.

Of course this entire process will not be instant but we can see that they are building up to something like that. Perhaps Camren being public friends again which would still generate a ton of talk as it did back in the 5H days. She will not instantly break up with S and then be seen making out with L the next day but I do think that although it wasn’t her or her teams plan to use her relationship/sexuality, i think she has no other choice if she ever wants to gain favour with the public again. Let’s not forget that the rest of 5H seem to be on their way to having new music out very very soon and just as camren worked to promote 5H in the old days it will work again in 2021/2022. This would encourage her team even more to follow this route as it would suit everyone, even if they no longer are a group they will always be connected.

We shall wait and see what happens, of course circumstantial situations may arise to cause them to switch up their plans but for now all this 5H, camren and gaymila interactions are no coincidence. That’s for sure.

This concludes my very long post! thank you to anyone who took the time to read this, thank you again to Stuck and if anyone has anything else to add that i might have missed or any questions don’t hesitate! I love hearing what everyone else has to say. To clarify these are all my personal thoughts and speculations and I am not claiming to know anything for certain.

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Wow, I didn't expect to be a window into another great submission from my dear buddies, but Enzo, I loved your post. And I really totally agree with you in what you mentioned.

The truth is that it is true, Camila has been selling her LGBT + agenda of hers since 2020 and even long before because I always had the theory that she would be let out after having a big heterosexual PR circus. This PR circus with the diva is that circus and what we have been seeing, because it checks all our theories.

As for Gaymila, she has always been there. More crushed with the fucking circus shit maybe, but she's always been there and one thing I want to emphasize is that most of Camila's fandom other than SS or homophobic, would accept Camila out of the closet, ALWAYS AND WHEN NOT WITH LAUREN.

That is why I think Camila would have more followers if the aforementioned are left aside, because they would have no problem supporting her and we would be more, considering that those clowns are partly paid fans and bots.

I don't think she will even give him permission to leave her, but if she does it is because that would also be part of her contract. Of her agreeing to do all this theater of the absurd with the circus, as long as they let her out at the end.

The fucking shit hole that is the industry knows that it has to please its LGBT + audience because we are the ones who support artists the most. The main audience for them may always be heterosexuals, but when they get bored and look for something else, the ace up their sleeve will always be the community and with the examples that you have given my dear Enzo, that is proof of it.

The thing with Camila is that she's never been in the closet. They forced her into a closet and that's different. Camila always felt good being herself and they have tried to cover that with different types of circuses since she was in the band because it is what suits business.

What we are seeing now with Camila is that, a double agenda, that of the circus managed by the idiots behind it and Camila's own agenda that lets us see Gaymila from time to time.

And when I talk about an agenda, I do not do it in a negative way but as something that she must have already planned.

My theme now is that it will come in that aspect. I don't think I'm waiting for a circus engagement or a lavender marriage, but I do hope that Camila can set Gaymila freer every time. Unfortunately, everything else is still very screwed up and this circus just represses it more and more.

The problem is that as long as she does not regain some control over her career and her image, no matter how small, nothing will change.

#submission #enzo anon #love you buddy

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captnjacksparrow · 3 years

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im a sns shipper but there is one scene that has always bugged me. in chapter 699 i thought it was very weird for sasuke to say to himself "i finally get what you mean when you say if this is what it's like to have a brother" (referring to naruto) and i was confused as to why sasuke would think like that ? like wasn't he the one who always pushed the narrative that naruto and his relationship aren't like brothers ? i wanted to know your thoughts on this one. (sidenote : i love your blog haha)

sidenote : I love your blog haha

Woowwww, Thank you dear Anon.

I finally get what you mean when you say if this is what it's like to have a brother

Ahhh. I bet some SS or NH pulled these brothers shit again.

Short Answer is.... Brother, here, Sasuke means someone who don’t share a blood but still as close as a family member. Because ‘Friend’ in certain instances sounds like an outsider. It doesn’t mean Sasuke takes Naruto as his brother. It just means Sasuke takes Naruto as a family member with whom he can share pain with because they are emotionally connected with each other or something more like Naruto considers Sasuke as a part of himself and Sasuke considers Naruto as a part of himself.

It’s just like Killer Bee telling Iruka that, ‘You have been in his heart this whole time. You are the state of his mind’.

Long answer is as follows....

The original wording of that particular piece of Monologue is

Naruto... At this time I recalled those words you said here once before.

How when you’re with me you wonder if this is what it’s like to have a brother. That feeling of yours... I think I finally get what you meant.

As I travel far and wide across the world, I often reflect back on those days.

We started out as lonely brats starved for love and fostering hate.

We chose different paths to walk... And battled each other. But now that time has passed.

It’s just like how I came to feel Father, Mother and my Brother Itachi’s pain and emotions, I’ll now start knowing your pain and feelings too.... Naruto.

Alright let’s establish some facts before getting into the details.

There are only two instances, where Naruto mentions Sasuke was like a brother to him. First time is when he fought with Sasuke in 1st VoTE battle. Second is when he met Itachi before his death.

Naruto always said Sasuke was his Friend. Be it the lengthy Monologue from Naruto in 1st VoTE when Sasuke was ramming the Chidori into his chest, be it when drenched in Kyuubi’s cloak to which Sasuke asks shockingly ‘What the hell are you?’ and Naruto says ‘Your friend’, be it in the Orochimaru hideout, under the Bridge, before the Raikage, before Rikudou Sennin and in the final VoTE battle too.

Sasuke never claimed Naruto as his Brother. He claimed Naruto as his closest friend, One and Only Friend.

Let’s see why Naruto specifically used the term ‘Brother’ before Sasuke and Itachi.

WITH SASUKE IN 1st VoTE:

The conversation goes like this,

Sasuke questions Naruto, ‘Someone like you without family or siblings, What do you know about me? You had nothing in the first place, what the hell do you understand about me? We suffer because of out bonds. You don’t know how it feels to lose them.’

To which Naruto replies, ‘It’s true I don’t understand about real families and siblings. But when I am with Iruka Sensei, I wonder if it feels like being with a father..... When I'm with you, I wonder if it's like being with a brother’.

Here Sasuke is questioning Naruto about the pain of losing a family, which he never had.

If Naruto refers to himself as a friend in this instance, it means he is placing himself as an Outsider. Meaning, a person who is not within the boundaries of a Family.

But Naruto considers Sasuke and Iruka as his own Family. Meaning, even though they are not connected with Naruto by blood, they were connected by heart. He has his own imaginary family in which these two people are always there. It's just that there are no specific roles for them. Regardless, Naruto feels he was emotionally connected with them.

Since Sasuke asked this question, Naruto considers Iruka as his Father because of the obvious age difference. When it comes to Sasuke's role, who was of the same age, he can consider 2 possibilities. One, a Brother. Two, a Cousin.

Naruto cannot say I consider you as a Cousin because it signifies a distant family member.

So Naruto assigns a closest family role of a Brother to Sasuke.

Now to paraphrase Naruto’s words,

‘It’s true, I don’t have parents or siblings to understand having a family. But I already found people like you and Iruka sensei who acknowledged my existence. And I consider both of you as my family. When I am with Iruka Sensei, probably that’s how it feels like to have a father. When I am with you, probably that’s how it feels like to have a brother. Which is why I won’t let Orochimaru take one of my family member such as you because it pains me a lot’

WITH ITACHI

Again when Itachi asks Naruto, 'Why are you so obsessed with my Brother?'.

Naruto replies, ‘That’s because, I think of him as a brother more than you ever would’.

Here Naruto strongly punctuates, 'Even though you are related to him by blood, you are a worst person for him. Whereas, me, who was not related to him by blood, I am a best person for him'.

In this instance, Naruto is facing a family member of Sasuke. Before him, Naruto doesn't want to place himself as an Outsider. And hence the usage of the word 'Brother'.

Simply put, Naruto refers to himself as Sasuke's family who can understand his pain unlike Itachi who hurted him a lot.

In both the scenes, the usage of the word ‘Friend’ doesn’t seem appropriate because of the alienation factor.

TO PARAPHRASE THE FINAL MONOLOGUE + CHAPTER 698 ADDED

Naruto... At this time I recalled those words you said here once before.

How when you’re with me you wonder if this is what it’s like to have a brother. That feeling of yours... I think I finally get what you meant.

We were some lonely kids starved of love in this world full of hatred. Fortunately we found each other and formed a bond. Whenever I saw you, I get reminded of my family. When we were in Team 7, I started to see the shadow of my family and whenever I saw you suffer, I felt extreme pain too just like you who always felt hurt because of my decisions.

But somehow we got separated and went on a different path. During those days, after I left the village, I used to think a lot about those days we spent together. But I failed to understand how you would’ve felt losing a person all of a sudden who acknowledged you. Starting from now, I will understand your pain just like I understood my parents’ and Itachi’s pain. All these times you felt pain because I was part of yourself and I will feel your pain because you are part of myself too.

This interpretation sits well with the databook too.

In short, Naruto uses the vague term ‘Brother’ to indicate that he is not an outsider who is incapable of understanding anything about losing a family, because Sasuke is a part of Naruto’s family and an extension of himself, so definitely Naruto can understand Sasuke’s pain. To which Sasuke says he understands what Naruto meant and promises to feel his pain.

#ask #sasunaru #sasunarusasu #naruto analysis

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destinyc1020 · 3 years

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I think it’s important to give credit where credit is due.

Right now being a Tom stan it’s so hard to find a positive place to share thoughts about his career and be a stan. His fans on Twitter are the worst (they hate just as much as other fandoms hate on him). His fans of IG are too young I feel lol. And even on here there are not many blogs that speaks positively about him. I always feel like people are too critical on him and critize every little thing about him even though he really doesn’t do anything beside live his life and work but I guess that’s why they nitpick on him too much because they can’t find anything to use against him. He really isn’t like one of those celebrities that are always in trouble or starting something. Anyway, sometimes I don’t know where to look but you are one of the blogs that always remain positive and respectful and 100% real and you just give good energy off the screen haha.

You probably have a lot of followers and many asks and it’s unfortunate that sometimes it can get toxic but I just thought it’s important for me to tell you that I appreciate you and your blog and always being a safe place for a T stan like me. Hope everything is good!

Awww, this msg was so sweet..... Thank you 🥰

I'm so sorry to hear that this type of hate towards Tom goes on over there on Twitter. 😔 I don't frequent Twitter, so I rarely see that stuff. So unless someone actually ss some tweets to me, I rarely see that stuff (thank goodness). I guess I'm in ignorant bliss lol 😆 Maybe take a break from Twitter for a while? 🤷🏾‍♀️

And yes, I literally love BOTH Tom AND Zendaya. 😊 And anyone who has an issue with that can just unfollow. 🤷🏾‍♀️ I'm honest about how I feel about the two of them (you should have seen me joking about Tom's 2002 Eminem style look in Atlanta, and the baggy holey jeans conversation lol 😹 😂), but I still love them lol.

I just joke a lot, but I'm never mean-spirited or hating on them at all. No way!

But yea, ppl can be toxic on social media/online sometimes, and at times you just need a break from all of that. 😔

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livvynka · 3 years

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The Vacation (Kamilah & Amy) - Part 2

Warning: SMUT. I’m not native english speaker, feel free to correct me (i would be actually glad).

1100 + words

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Last part:

Amy:

“And I was always thrilled to make out on airplane… I think I need help with something in toilet… Care to join?”

Amy smirk at Kamilah and slide her hand to Kamilah side. Kamilah raise an eyebrow. Kamilah eyes flash in red for second.

Kamilah:

“Lead the way.”

Amy stand up and pull Kamilah by hand. Amy look in every direction so noone cant see them when they enter the toilet. Kamilah turn to door and lock them.

Amy push Kamilah against the door. Amy’s hand wondering at Kamilah belly.

Kamilah:

“Hmm, my dirty, dirty girl.”

Kamilah tries to escape, but Amy hold her hand above her head.

Amy:

“Shh… This trip is about making you feel good. Starting…”

Amy unbutton Kamilah’s pants and slightly touch her abdomen. Kamilah gasp, lean her forehead to cold material of the door. Try to gain some self-control... Amy turn Kamilah around, so she can face her and kiss her hungrily. By one hand still holding Kamilahs hands above her head and with other…

With other hand squeezing Kamilah’s side. Amy move to Kamilah’s jaw line, continues to Kamilah’s earlobe and bite hard. Kamilah arch to Amy with the growl.

Kamilag:

“When i take my hands to you, you will ... - aaah”¨

Amy tease Kamilah’s center thru her pants, lightly and yet it drives Kamilah crazy.

Amy:

“I very much hope so. But now...”

Amy pulls Kamilah out of her pants and underwear, throw her blazer to ground and rip her shirt in half. Than trace her nails over new revealed skin.

Kamilah shudder and her eyes change to crimson red. And said with shaky voice.

Kamilah:

“Amy just fuck me, I can’t handle this anymore.”

Amy:

“Alright my love”

Amy sink to here knees, pul Kamilah’s legs apart, let one of Kamilah’s leg relax on her shoulder. Then she start workship Kamilah. She suck her, lick her... Circling around Kamilah’s clitoris. With her hand squeezing her butt, another hand press on Kamilah’s stomach to hold her still.

Kamilah moan loudly, Amy stop and look at Kamilah directly.

Amy: “

You need to be quiet, in other way they ban us for next flights.”

Kamilah:

“We’ll see who’s gonna be .. - jeez -us --ss”

Amy enters two finger inside Kamilah and move her mouth to Kamilah’s vulva again. Teasing one of her nipple.

Kamilah start to tremble uncontrollably, pant heavily. Hands on Amy’s shoulders. Hold her firmly, she will leave bruises for sure...

Than Kamilah explode, two times in row... Throw here head back and bite her tongue. Amy uprise and kiss Kamilah. She whispers.

Amy:

“I love you soo much.”

When Kamilah catch here breath again she grabs Amy and lift her to the near sink. Amy let out a surprise moan and pull Kamilah to close the distance, legs tangled by her sides. Kamilah smirk on that move. She doesn’t hesitate and undress Amy completely. Kissing the path of nude skin of Amy’s. Amy grab her by chin and connect their mouth again. Kamilah smile into the kiss and than suck Amy’s bottom lip.

Kamilah: “

So horny and demanding...”

She’s merciful and give Amy what she wants. She slide her two fingers inside Amy. Amy roll her eyes when pleasure begins be hard to take. Kamilah fasten the pace a lick Amy’s nipple. With other hand teasing her clitoris. Amy start to shake and let out moan.

Kamilah:

“What were you saying about not being loud?

”

She smirk at her wife. It was her lullaby. Watching Amy’s body shaking with the climax coming, hear her moans, when Amy says her name. It thrills her.

She pumps in Amy with unnatural speed. Amy cursed and bite into Kamilah neck with her fang fully out. She feed from Kamilah, but she does not care. She would give her anything.

Kamilah add the third finger when she feels Amy’s gonna fell of the edge any second.

Kamilah:

“Let go my Queen.”

Kamilah’s soft voice was the last string. Amy’s vision went blur and she shout hers wife name.

Amy: “Ka- Kamilah!”

Amy fell in Kamilah’s arms and giggle.

Amy:

“You are going to be dead of me. I love you more btw.”

Kamilah gives Amy sweet kiss and help her wife get dressed again. They go back to their seats.

Kamilah:

“That was something else. I need to say I start liking to fly in economy class.”

Amy:

“I wonder the reason behind it...”

She smiles at Kamilah teasingly.

Kamilah:

“You are right, we need this. And I do everything in my power so we enjoy this time. I want you to show you some places in Prague too. Maybe we can even extend our vacation.”

Amy:

“That would be perfect, I don’t really care where we go, I just want to be with you.”

Kamilah tangle their fingers and lean against Amy’s shoulder. Amy pets her head gently.

Amy:

“Maybe not everywhere. I don’t like Japan or ´Island of Death´.”

Kamilah chuckle.

Kamilah:

“Nor Japan or ´Island of death´ stop me to try to make you happy every second of our life.”

Amy: “

You know I will do everything in my power to make you happy too? You are the dearest person to me, and I’m nothing without you.”

Kamilah:

“For me you are everything...”

They both fall asleep when one of the fly attendant come and wake up Amy.

Fly attendant:

“Miss, pardon me, for waking you up, would you like to eat something? Here is the menu, we have some Czech and American possibilities for food. We will come in few minutes to take your order.”

Amy:

“Thank you, we will let you know.”

Amy:

“Kami, baby. Wake up.”

Amy kiss Kamilah’s nose and brush her fingers across her cheeks. Kamilah open her eyes slowly.

Kamilah:

“What's the matter? I was enjoying my sleep.”

Amy:

“We can try our first Czech food together, look.”

She handle the menu to Kamilah. Kamilah still leaning against Amy. Kamilah looks at the menu with reluctance

Kamilah:

“Do we need to eat this? We can eat when we land.”

Amy stomach rumbles. Kamilah sigh.

Kamilah :

”Alright let's have. Ermm. What is this? Ghulagshdsad soap”

Amy chuckle. And say with humor in her voice.

Amy:

“It’s now actually not bad food. And you can pronounce it ´Goo - laash´. Well, with consideration we are on airplane and the food in economy class is far away matching the real Goulash from country local restaurant...”

Kamilah:

“Fine, let’s have it.”

Soon, after they order it with Czech beer, Goulash arrive. Kamilah look at the soap with caution.

Amy:

“Do not worry. It’s stew of meat, almost everytime from beef or veal and vegetables, flavoured with paprika spice. Try it.”

Amy practically shove the spoon in Kamilah mouth. Kamilah eyebrow quirk and she look at her wife with annoyance. She let Amy feed her. She eventually like the ´Ghoulash´ food or whatever is that.

Kamilah:

“It’s spicy but acceptable.”

She took a spoon from Amy and eat almost whole bowl. Amy rise a eyebrow at her and giggle.

Amy:

“So its ´acceptable´ you say. Let me buy you real Ghoulash when we are in center.”

Kamilah with full mouth.

Kamilah:

“Uhm, yes please.”

After another 7 hours airplane land in Prague. It was night already. Amy hide yawn behind her hand.

Amy:

“Hmm, let’s get to our apartment to freshen up, and we can go for short walk.”

Kamilah take Amy’s hand and kiss her forehead.

Kamilah:

“Sure my love.”

...

PART 1

#kamilah sayeed #choices kamilah #kamilah x mc #fanfic #wlwsmut #choices #choices stories you play #BloodBound #choices bloodbound

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theladyvanya · 4 years

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The previous owner of Unappreciated Elves is Toxic and Abusive

Content warning as there are sensitive subjects such as suicide, miscarriage, and abuse talked about here.

I honestly can’t believe I’m even making this post, as I really really really didn’t want to make anything like this. I was honestly hoping everything would blow over if I ignored it. But it seems even still that now if I’m not being harassed my friends are under some kind of fire. And I literally don’t know what else to do other than warn other people about her toxicity and the abuse she’s willing to dole out to other people.

I’ve been extremely civil, and I have vehemently stayed quiet as to not attract a whole lot of attention about what’s been going on. And it’s mostly because I am still concerned about the effects of what this do to her.

I’ve really just been hoping it would all blow over and she’d leave me alone. But that has been far from the case and I’m tired of the constant abuse from her.

She has harassed me continuously, stalked me continuously. If not through text, through online messages, and on anonymous messages even though both of her tumblr accounts are blocked. I have Statcounter on my blog and have pages upon pages of ss’s of her stalking my tumblr. She’s now harassing my friend, telling her to kill herself and still stalking my tumblr on and off.

In 2018 after being a lonely SAHM for 2-3 years I met the woman who runs Unappreciated Elves where there I thought I made the greatest friend I could possibly ask for.

We had things in common, we got along great, she was funny, things were good. This was my first friend who wanted to talk to me in LITERAL years. YEARS. So we talked all the time.

I supported her through horrible times, counseled her when she needed it, uplifted her when she needed it the most. We wrote a 1million plus word role play together. We FaceTimed all the time or talked on the phone. I loved her as if she were a family member and very much considered her as such.

I drove 600+ miles 2xs a year in our 2 year friendship to go see her. And I’d spend a week or more there with her. We had some great times. We have tons of pictures together and headcanons and all kinds of fun and I loved her writing.

But there were way more unhealthy and extremely toxic times where I was being mentally and emotionally being abused.

I was made to feel bad every time I got the chance to go out on a date night with my husband and friends. If I got drunk especially she’d give me the silent treatment. Then the following day she’d treat me like shit until I profusely apologized to her about me even going out.

I spent hours and days trying to talk her out of killing herself for many many hours at a time. Having to constantly pause and hold my life because I was horrified for a week at a time that she’d kill herself. While I’m in no way mental health shaming anyone as I have postpartum depression borderline psychosis, schitzoaffective disorder and I’m on the spectrum, it now was a very obvious ploy for attention when she felt I wasn’t giving her enough. Or needed for someone to feel horrible for her. I unfortunately do not have ss’s to back this up, but my friend Kylie can absolutely back this up as she friends with her years before I was.

Everything had to be about her, even if I had something emotionally going on where I needed her support too. My texts would get ignored right in front of my face to where she wouldn’t address it ever even if I brought it up again.

It was so bad and so often that she talked about herself; she talked about herself while my grandmother was in the final stages of her life and I needed her. She talked nonstop and repeatedly about her work and how much it sucked. The day of my grandmothers death, her viewing, and her funeral the woman talked nonstop about herself and her job. I had just lost my familial best friend and the person who I supported through loss and hurt dismissed mine.

I couldn’t talk to her about my children which is what destroyed the friendship. She yelled at me repeatedly if I made mention of my babies or would flat out ignore the texts or comments. I wasn’t allowed to talk about my miscarriage as she’d either yell at me or tell me to “just get over it because its been a year. All it was, was just a clump of cells.” Though I was very clearly and obviously distraught over the loss of my baby. To which she then wanted to write about HER having a miscarriage in our story and HER hurt. Even though I was still grievously hurt over what had happened.

I could never give a differing opinion than hers, I always had to side with her or I’d get mocked and ridiculed. Or I’d be constantly told after she egged me into blowing up (by mocking me) that I was overreacting and being ridiculous. There was also the time where my mental health was so bad, I was texting the suicide hotline for two weeks solid because I desperately was trying not to kill myself and when I told her I couldn’t talk her down from suicide and suggested she text 741-741 she got mad and mocked me. To which I couldn’t help but explode.

I do have SS’s for a lot of this to which I will add as we go, as tumblr only allows for 10 pictures at a time. Here listed is the anonymous hate as well as some of the abuse dishes out to me over the span of a year. Yes I took ss’s after they happened because I always felt like I was overreacting and had to seek out validation. It was @fandom-hoe101 (Kylie) who gave me the strength and courage to finally stand up for myself and end the friendship when I did and keep it ended.

This is NOT everything, as there is a LOT that I didn’t screenshot or would internalize to deal with by myself. It was at the end of the friendship that I started seeking help to see if I was actually going crazy. I’m still dealing with the effects of the abuse from this relationship.

The anonymous hatemail ive received, not including a few others from my writing blog.

Related to my miscarriage

Related to when I wanted to kill myself, granted I did indeed blow up but I couldn’t help it. I had spent all week talking her down for her to brush all of my things to help her including the suicide hotline.

This is the catalyst of what ended our friendship. After literally not being allowed to talk about my kids without being ignored or snapped for 8 months at I finally lost it. I cried for weeks absolutely distraught because we were “best friends”

Not long after I bounced between being by myself and not her friend and saw my mental health improve. To talking to her and her talking about killing herself, and then getting mad if I wanted to help. I called her out on her abusing me and she told me she didn’t remember any of it going the way I claimed.

I have pages and pages worth of her stalking my tumblr via Statcounter and hatemail messages. There are also messages she sent to me through tumblr, her harassing my friend Kylie over tumblr over me. And totally the straw that broke the camels back was this sent to my friend with absolutely ZERO prompt.

So just a warning if you end up friends with her, anticipate for your friendship to be solely about her. She will manipulate and abuse you emotionally, justifying all of her behavior on her mental illness. She will step all over you kindness and love you have to give her to hurt you. She never cared about me and that’s evident now, she’s just mad she can’t use me anymore and is taking it out on me and my friend 8mos later still.

#unappreciated elves #froggy chicken duck #the silmarillion #the Silm #Silm #silmarillion #tolkien fandom #fandom #Tolkien #jrr Tolkien #lord #lord of the rings #lotr fandom #abuse #mental abuse #narcissist #miscarriage #trigger warning

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tallmadgeandtea · 3 years

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A Little Message From Me (tallmadgeandtea)

Hello, everyone, it’s me, Amanda, aka tallmadgeandtea, aka the George Washington girl, aka that girl who won’t shut up about her OC.

Firstly, I want to say, thank you to everyone who participates in Turn Week 2021! I did not organize it, but I loved it- the prompts this year were awesome, and everyone who participated knocked it out of the park, proving that this fandom is still alive and kicking- much like the Continental Army... multiple times.. actually. I love this fandom, and I am so glad I was welcomed into it by all of you. Why am I getting sentimental, you ask? Recently, I hit 500 followers. Five! Hundred! Followers! I still can’t believe it, honestly. When I made this blog a little over a year ago, I had no clue what I was doing. I’d been on Tumblr for years, but I very rarely made my own posts. I was basically a Twitter person coming on here after I realized the Turn fandom didn’t really exist over there. I lurked the tag for as long as I could before I was like “Screw it, just make a blog!”

And then tallmadgeandtea was born, and I’m so glad I did it. Not only did this blog help me fall in love with history again, but it introduced me to this extraordinary group of people we have here. I have made some of my very best friends because of this blog, and I have the best followers and mutuals I could ever ask for. And, not only did you all welcome me, but more closely to my heart, you welcomed Elizabeth Walker and my darling SS&SP- which I actually published during Turn Week 2020. Elizabeth and her story means the absolute world to me, and I am elated that I have actual people who read it, like it, and let me talk about every. single. day. I love writing SS&SP and I love this blog.

On a different, slightly awkward note, I want to thank you all for sticking around during my many hiatuses of 2020. Life was shit, but I will never forget the kind messages and replies I got whenever I talked about my anxiety on here. Since the... events... of last year, this blog is basically the only thing keeping me at least somewhat sane, and I appreciate you all for still liking it even when I’m not so sane. I love making content and I’m so glad you all engage with it and like it. And I’m so glad I get to see everyone else’s wonderful content as well!

So thank you. Thank you for every follow, every note- every like and reblog and reply. Thank you for every ask sent. Thank you for letting me endlessly ramble about SS&SP and how I think George Washington is Hot. Thank you for letting me go on and on about my beloved Benjamin. Thank you for actually liking my music taste- which I can’t say for many people I know in real life. Thank you for interacting with each Tonight’s Turn and Tea. Thank you for reading any part of SS&SP- especially my one shots and long awaited chapters. Thank you to all the friends I’ve made- y’all are the best.

Five Hundred Followers. Seriously, thank you. Thank. You.

To War and Washington!

#sorry for getting on a tangent but wow!#wow!!!#I am so grateful #I just had to say something #I thought about doing one of those follower things but I would’ve been mortified if I forgot anyone. and also I don’t actually know how #those work #I love y’all #long post #amanda speaks #tumblr user tallmadgeandtea comments on the situation

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the-ss-horniest-book-club · 3 years

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Under New Management

With all that has happened today, the SS HBC has undergone some renovations. This is not to say that anything has changed ~ quite the opposite actually ~ the SS HBC is still the thirstiest place for Sebastian Stan and his wonderful characters!

However as many of you may know, today was a rough day for our entire HBC family: the mod of the SS HBC decided to step back. @eurynome827-main-blog to say that none of us would be here without you is the absolute truth. You gave us a family where one didn’t exist before and it’s brought so many people joy and happiness, and I hope that we can continue that same love and tradition, as well as to continue to the thirsty traditions you have started!

To the SS HBC and our followers, the blog you see here today will be the same blog you will see in the future. We appreciate your support and look forward to seeing prompts from you guys as well as hearing your ideas on different events you’d like to see here. The HBC Lucky In Love event with @the-ce-horniest-book-club and @the-th-horniest-book-club continues! Our fourth sister group, @the-marvel-horniest-book-club is still doing its own thing this month with prompts for Falcon and the Winter Soldier. We look forward to seeing what you have all created, so please tag us in your Sebastian Stan HBC related stories/moodboards/etc.

Thank you!

~Smutty Librarians 📚

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mc-critical · 3 years

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Hellooo 🤗 First, I have been following your blog for a while and I love your blog so much! I hope you are doing well :) And my ask to you can be a little bit complex. I have been thinking about why Hatice chose not to kill Hurrem when she kidnapped her for 2 years. I know hurrem obviously can't die for the history :) and they had to change the scenario for Meryem's absence but I want to think this in the my universe, some suggest that her whole purpose was to revenge suleyman, more than hurrem. Because in ep 85, she said to him that she wanted to kill hurrem just because she wanted suleyman to suffer and feel the same pain as her. And some people say that it's because she just couldn't do this because she is still so...merciful. In short, I sometimes have troubles to understand the dynamics and the bond between hurrem and hatice. They are both very complex characters and there is so many hatice hate in this fandom and I am saying this as an hurrem fan :) So I would be very happy if you can answer my question and this complex dynamics between them 😊💕

Hey there! 🤗 Thank you for your words and yes, I'm fine. :)

I agree that the whole abduction plot was clearly done in order to excuse Meryem's departure in-universe in some way. And Hürrem couldn't be killed because of historical accuracy and the whole lot of stuff she had to do in the script afterwards. She couldn't just die like that, they had to wrap her arc up in some way and both the consequences of the abduction and S04 itself were very important for Hürrem's character.

That aside, I don't think the writers gave us a clear cut reason as to why Hatice didn't kill Hürrem. I always considered the way Hürrem survived to be a plot hole for the sake of the plot and time constraints the team faced by the end of the season. There were many cases the show abused the attacks of Hürrem done by her enemies, they sometimes turned out to be so miscalculated and so absurd that Hürrem would always survive. They became so much, we have seen such scenarios so many times now that Hürrem surviving is something I would take for granted by now and wouldn't question for that and that alone. The survival, in practice, is as contrived as it can be and knowing the difficulties behind the scenes, I refused to think of the how and the why of the fact alone.

However, yes, the abduction was not only a way to cover up for Meryem's departure, it ultimately became the conclusion of Hatice's whole character arc, culminating in one last move against Hürrem.

After she forgave Ibrahim about the infidelity, their wounds started to heal and they finally had the chance to start over. And it seemed to pay off... until he died. Ibrahim's death was a new low in Hatice's arc which caused her to lose hope in her own life. She was ready to end it... but not before she got rid of the object of her rage. Thing is, even though Hatice acted against Hürrem before and fully stood against her by S03 for multiple reasons (I elaborated on all that and the many nuances of Hatice's character here), we could say that her wanting to kill Hürrem was the turning point of her storyline and arc in the second half of the season. Before that Hatice's actions against Hürrem were primarily motivated by her threatening everything Hatice cared about at once - both dynasty and family and Hürrem taking Valide's chambers was the last nail of the coffin, which is why her first true move against Hürrem was done through methods the tradition and the harem stood by. (Firuze) I doubt she wanted to kill her then, it was all about the protection of Hatice's personal attachments. She wanted to put her in line, to make her stop, to defeat her for everyone to return to their peaceful lives. What she wanted most of all was a stable family with Ibrahim. And after Ibrahim died, the chance for one was gone. Hatice knew well of Hürrem's enmity with Ibrahim and didn't know of Ibrahim's speeches, hence she didn't have anyone else to blame other than Hürrem and Süleyman. After everything began to go well, Ibrahim's death once again destroyed her "perfect picture", she lost the person that became the bounder of dynasty and family after she forgave him, her everything, a loss for the state, as well. (she praised all his achievements during campaigns after he died) The needs of the dynasty fully became her own personal motives by the time Ibrahim was dead. She already had enough rage against Hürrem at this point, but now that rage increased all the more. That rage, close to hatred, became directed at Süleiman, as well, for taking such a devastating decision, disregarding Hatice's own values and life in her eyes and reminding her of all the death and trauma she had experienced, so the only thing she would do, is move against them both. Yes, Süleiman took away a piece of Hatice's life, now it is her turn to take away a piece of his life. Her enmity against Hürrem took a wholly different turn. Now she truly is the object of all her misery and pain, to the point she thought that her coming in the harem to begin with caused destruction everywhere around - it destroyed everything, according to Hatice, including Süleiman, as she told him in her last scene.

There's also another thing we should look at- all of Hatice's actions in E83, which I feel are very detrimental for her S03B arc. It almost feels like Hatice is in a conflicted state of mind - she lost a lot from Ibrahim's death, she no longer had a point of existing and yet, she wants those who caused her pain to suffer, she wants to end them. She feels that Ibrahim's death is a gross injustice that has to be avenged and yet, she wants to suffer alone with herself, alone with her own pain. Her suicide attempt in the same episode "marries" these two states of mind and puts Hatice's later actions into context - Şah saving her and her promise to end Hürrem is a major reason why Hatice kept going, because it's a modicum of support she hasn't gotten from this person for a long time. It's a promise to fix what has passed. Hürrem's elimination would "fix" what has passed in Hatice's eyes, it would be a natural right, to say the least. Şah saving Hatice gave her the only motivation to live and that's one reason why Hatice fixated so much in it. And if we put her growing depression in the mix, we see that she didn't really get the chance to heal from such big loss. No one truly managed to alleviate her pain or to understand her, everyone was only expecting her to move on, to get over it, without actually doing anything helpful, because "time heals", now doesn't it? In a point Hatice begins to view any action that appear to try "alleviating her pain" as a forced interference in her own life by creating various situations (like Şah redecorating her castle, the exile in Manisa, the marriage with Hüsrev Pasha etc.) for her to adapt in without really considering how she actually felt. She couldn't cope with Ibrahim's death in a healthy way, so the only thing left of her was this wound that kept growing, instead of healing. She was fueled by promises of an end to her misery and will for revenge, but when these promises weren't being fulfilled, she fell even further into despair and acting against the ones who caused her suffering became her only coping mechanism. Which culminated in the abduction.

I know that the writers tried their best to weave a mystery out of this whole plot line, but Hatice being the one behind the abduction wasn't surprising in the slightest - I always saw it as a desparate move of hers to get rid of Hürrem, in a way Süleiman would never predict she would be capable of in her right mind, in a way no one could stop her from doing what she must. Hatice admitted that this was done in order for Süleiman to feel what she felt, to fuel him with false promises the way they all fueled her (see the last Hatice and SS scene before her death) and finish it all by herself, by finally, finally doing what should havе done long ago. The fact that no one knew what happened exactly is something I think Hatice would definetly pull in her most broken state, aside from the sloppy writing, because when everything is kept under wraps, the fate of Hürrem is all in her hands and she would deal with her successfully and effortlessly, without anyone managing to prove anything. This was her revenge, this was the way she would finish it.

I honestly don't understand her not killing her, aside from the plot convenience, because at this point.. oh yes, Hatice would absolutely kill her and as I mentioned before, she already wanted to kill her, to eliminate what has become the root of all the problems in the family and in the harem and again, take a piece of Süleiman's life as he did with her. Simply putting Hürrem in her place as she wanted in some moments of S02 and on a stronger level in all of S03A wouldn't cut it anymore. But then again, Hatice did tell Hürrem many times throughout S03B that she can make her suffer in a way she would beg for her death, as shown with her doing the whole thing with the herbs. She probably wanted to do this first and then kill her and Hürrem just... succeeded to escape in the meantime? I would've totally believed this was the case if we didn't get these little hints from Hatice in Bali Bey's interrogation in E102: there she said that she wanted to avenge Ibrahim's death so much, but she couldn't do it. She couldn't succeed. That could mean so many things. It sure didn't mean Hürrem's escape, because she escaped a year later (confirmed by E103), so there must be another thing that stopped her. While Hatice is an overally ethical character, she wouldn't be all that merciful at this point of the show, because of all the reasons I stated above and the fact that she has ordered an execution before. (Nigar) Maybe Hürrem showed or told her something that stopped Hatice from doing it? Maybe Hatice found out that that this whole thing made her more miserable? The most probable reason for me is what she hinted at in her last scene which indeed has more to do with Süleiman than with Hürrem: maybe she saw all the unsuccessful attempts to kill Hürrem and wanted to put her in a place they could never find her in instead and take her away from SS and everyone else, to hit him where it hurt. To let him live with her unsure fate. For him to burn inside everyday, without the person he would do everything for, without knowing whether she lived or died, just like Hatice never got to know where Ibrahim's grave was and never got the chance to get over her pain. She didn't succeed to get rid of Hürrem, so she might as well do that instead. That might have been her last resort.

Because throughout all of S03B, Hatice was empty inside. She had one driving feeling that probably got bruised quite a bit after she abducted Hürrem. Complete hopelessness might have gotten over her and she may have wanted to give up the fight altogether. Killing Hürrem was apparently a hopeless cause. Happiness and piece once more were apparently a hopeless cause. She couldn't avenge Ibrahim and the only thing left was say one last goodbye with her sister, calling back on her wish for a calm family, and then confront the other member of the family left, who seemingly screwed everything up. I would say that Hatice realized that it was SS who was the decider of everyone's fates in the end and that he made so many problematic decisions that only made everyone around him suffer and that is connected with the impact Hürrem had in their lives.

[I agree that Hatice and Hürrem had a very complex dynamic that went through detailed development throughout three seasons and both of them had complex reasons to do what they did. Believe me, I never got this striking amount of Hatice hate I encounter in the fandom either, especially because these haters do so little effort to understand her character.]

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