#i love stoick

[saturnniidae]

"I should've seen the signs" I feel like Stoick was basically reliving the way he lost Valka.

To him, after a lifetime of wanting nothing but to kill a dragon, Hiccup's suddenly and inexplicably changed his mind. To him, Hiccup saying he can't kill them is just like when Valka refused to and tried convincing others as well, then as a result was 'killed' by one herself.

To him, way Hiccup tossed his weapon and shield to the side then approached Hookfang while speaking about how dragons aren't what people think they are probably bares an uncomfortable resemblance to the way Valka put down her weapon and stared a dragon in the eyes and as a result was taken.

To him, attempting to do anything but preemptively defend yourself against a dragon will only end in tragedy, so he has to do anything he can to stop Hiccup before it's too late.

(And just like with Valka, he unintentionally escalated the situation by trying to protect Hiccup but only agitated the dragon, causing it to panic and react, inadvertently putting someone he loves in danger. again)

Stoick of course, wasn't acting rationally, but it makes sense when you think about how traumatizing Valka's 'death' must've been for him (and how much Hiccup reminss him of her); he watched her get taken, presumably killed, and couldn't do anything about it.

[iam-sol-emnlyswear]

Got high and watched How To Train Your Dragon last night and for some reason it was only then when I realized how heartbreaking Stoick’s line “With you doing so well in the ring... We finally have something to talk about” is 

Like Stoick wants to connect with Hiccup. He’s tried so hard: taking him fishing, teaching him how to take down a dragon, even just living in the same house as his son, but they’re so vastly different that they can’t even hold a conversation. Until he hears about Hiccup’s successes in dragon training. And he’s so excited. He can finally connect with his son! But that is such new territory that Hiccup feels awkward and doesn’t answer. And Stoick realizes that even now, he doesn’t have and may never have the son he’s always wanted. So he tries one last thing: Giving Hiccup one last reminder of his mother. The only thing they have in common. And even that fails.

[hiccupbutpurple]

Stoick’s face falling, when he’s like ‘we finally have something to talk about’ and Hiccup is silent, will never not hit me in the heart.

Stoick is absolutely in the wrong, but it’s scenes like that, that show he does care about Hiccup, he’s just not good at expressing it and hasn’t accepted Hiccup being himself quite yet. He still holds onto the old ideologies and hope that Hiccup will be his kind of Viking. He’s excited cause he thinks he’s got that now (especially after years of not), he can understand Hiccup, they can be a real father and son, they can communicate. That dream is suddenly coming true. Then Hiccup doesn’t reply and there’s that little moment of realisation that the obvious rift between them still exists. He obviously is still keeping his hope as the scene continues but that moment of his face falling and the awkward tension coming back, bringing him back to the reality between them. It hurts so much.

It’s also sad since it highlights to Hiccup, that his dad wouldn’t accept him as he is yet. He’s stuck on the vision of the perfect child that Hiccup isn’t. He can’t respond because how can he when they barely talk as is, and now he’s keeping a secret so big? There’s a bit more to it on Hiccup’s side, but Stoick’s reaction to his silence is really what gets me. He doesn’t know Hiccup can’t just tell him the truth, to him it’s just the plain old usual rift and Hiccup not being comfortable talking (or knowing how to talk) to him about something that could bring them together. From his perspective, in a way, it’s a rejection.

I think it’s such a real thing between parents and children. It’s just such a real and hard hitting one second moment in a real and hard hitting scene.

[rosiethedragongeek]

When I tell you I’m crying

[sirbird]

Dance

Chapter 11

[cornaby]

this is killing me

[seaglassdinosaur]

I know we collectively agree that Hiccup isn’t romantically inclined, and his getting married and having kids didn’t make sense in the epilogue, but consider: Hiccup getting married for political reasons.

It’s a marriage of alliance, which is recognized both by him and his partner, and they enter it without expectations of romantic involvement. Since they’re now married, they live in the same castle, spend time together, and Hiccup finds he really likes his spouse. They’re funny, get along with his friends, and has the same interests and values. They both probably speak multiple languages. She understands why Hiccup is so dedicated to making the Wilderwest better, and holds similar views. She’s a good politician (her job after all, was to be an ambassador). Hiccup likes spending time with them, and the feeling is mutual. They’re not in love, they have their own lives, but they’re dedicated to each other and eventually decide to raise children. They teach their kids how to train hawks and hunt with dragons, riding, history, the Languages, and all the necessary skills of their world. They’re not in love and they’re happy together.

[spigobath]

"I was going to say that your father would be proud. I'm proud. And where you go, I go."

(Astrid, to Hiccup - RTTE s6 ep12)

AUGH I LOVE RTTE THIS IS A MASTERPIECE. I love that we get to see everything that leads up to httyd2. the development of that stupid flight suit and sweet sword. How we see Hiccup and Astrid's relationship grow to what it is in that movie. Seeing how much Stoick and Hiccup have become father and son, and understanding a bit more why Stoick brought up the chieftain to Hiccup, who led a war and won it.

We get to see all the ignored characters grow into slightly better people (looking at you snotty boy). We see Hiccup's rationale in the "I can show you," with Drago, because he has done it countless times before in this show. He has been betrayed and hurt and threatened and that has made him into the restless man we see in httyd2. It bridges the gap of an ignored, attention seeking Hiccup of 1 to the current Hiccup who doesn't want responsibility, because he is scared.

ugehrufief I could ramble on I love this show

[eir-trixa]

One thing that gets me everytime is that Stoick would have absolutely LOVED Zephyr. And Nuffink of course but I have this weird feeling that he wouldve doted non stop on Zephyr specifically. She wouldve been spoiled rotten by her grandfather, taken everywhere on top of his shoulders or the crook of his elbow. He would be reading her stories before bed. He would have learned to braid her hair and sat down with her on tea parties. He wouldve gone with her troll hunting. He would be there for her and her brother in the way he never got to be with Hiccup because the times were different now and then. He would absolutely be her best friend and Im SAD they never got to meet.

[dragonnnfly]

Stoick just died, my friend (watching httyd httyd 2 for the first time) and i are at the funeral scene.

She is angrily dipping her vegan chicken tenders in her dip while staring at me muttering “I hate you, you are aweful” repeatedly

[shadow-monster]

Okay, so you know what really upsets me when I read fanfiction about HTTYD? (Don’t act me why, I’ve been getting back into it)

• When either Hiccup has magical, dragon powers to communicate with the other dragons, or he’s able to communicate with Toothless.

Reason: because that is just taking all the power of Hiccup. His own talent is to make dragons show that he means no harm, he doesn’t have MaGiCal connection to the dragons. He trusts the dragons, and that so makes them trust him.

• when the storyline doesn’t make sense. This upsets me on personal level. What I mean is when it shows they obviously haven’t seen the rise of Berk, Race to the edge, or any of the movies after the first. OR when they make the story really complicated. Like there was fic of when Hiccup already meeting his mother.

Reason: it just complicates things, and it can ruin the magic in those moments. Ex: Hiccup’s connection with his father, his team, his mother, EVERYONE. Or even moments that had hugely impacted Hiccup’s life.

• making characters get out of character. I don’t blame a lot of people for not exactly getting the character’s attention exactly right. But there was really weird-ass moments when they make the characters nothing like they were in the movies. Like, they made Stoick SUPER abusive (which he wasn’t), they they make the team really fucked up (which they weren’t). Making Hiccup practically emo, like full on dead teenager with no morals or even character.

Reason: because this absolutely ruin the characters development, or make the scenes be really weird.

What I wish there were more of;

•MORE HICCUP BEING A BAD ASS! I love Hiccup, and and I love him even more when he’s a still a beloved cool character. I don’t mind him being almost cold, but him being a badass is totally amazing.

•hiccup being a beloved goofball/sarcastic little shit. If anyone watches HtTyD, they’ve seen Hiccuo being a little shit by having SO much sass it almost hurts.

•GET A GOD DAMN REFERENCE TO THE SHOWS!! I’ve never even seen a reference to the TV series of Race to the edge, or rise of Berk. Like does it kill writers to have a reference of Dagur? Viggo? Heather? Like anyone??

Thank you guys for coming to my Ted talk

[aldoodles]

"You were not my first love, Stoick the Vast," said Valhallarama. "But you are my last..."

Stoick's tired eyes lit up. And then Valhallarama grinned, just like she must have grinned once, when she was a wild little girl.

[ideasarestuckinmyhead]

Seth was def a how to train your dragon kid

your so right bc he 100% wanted to ride a dragon to get away from the shitty town he grew up in.

[awii-lyn]

Being punishment was nothing after that

[rosiethedragongeek]

thinking about how httyd (especially the first one) is about hiccup realizing he'll never live up to stoick's expectations and eventually deciding to stop trying to and just be who he is and really coming to his own as a leader, a friend, a son, a person etc etc, and if the story was told from snotlout's pov there would be a VERY similar core message there

[saturnniidae]

How to Train Your Dragon 2 (2014)

"It wasn't your fault, Bud. They made you do it. You'd never hurt him. You'd never hurt me"