Hi!! I'd love to see any combo/one of these for Josh or Ian 😊 38, 50, 67
These are the prompts in case you haven't seen them
Thanks for the prompts! 💙💚
38. “Just let me take care of you why are you so stubborn.”
50. “You sneezed ten times today.” “Thanks for counting.”
67. Having to be dragged back to bed.
I'm taking the dialogue prompts in particular as inspiration rather than exact quotes!
For anyone who doesn't know, my OCs Josh and Ian are best friends and 2/5 of the band The World Above. Their story starts with Sympathy, but you don't need to read that first (it's pretty long). As of this little fic, they're halfway across the country from each other, Josh in Chicago and Ian in L.A.
Also on AO3.
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"Why are you even awake? It's so early there."
Ian turns a full circle as he's looking for something, the video blurring enough to make Josh dizzy. "Because! Shit to do." He blinks, and his nose scrunches, and he leans out of frame with a quick heh-SHHHoo!
"At—" he glances at the microwave clock and subtracts two hours— "8:46 a.m.?"
"That's not early." He sniffs and rubs the back of his hand under his nose, still distracted.
"Not to the rest of the world, no." He scratches Finley between the ears and leans back into the sofa. "What are you looking for?"
"Hmm." It doesn't quite come out right, like his nose is too blocked to let the sound through. "I… heh!-ngt-TCHiu!"
"Bless you. You don't remember, do you?"
Ian's slower to recover this time. "I remember." He coughs and wipes his nose on his sleeve. "Or. I will remember." He thinks for another moment. "Eventually."
One of Ian's many roommates walks through the back of the video. …Jayson. Yes. It's a big house with a lot of turnover, all musicians and artists working server jobs and the like to make ends meet in L.A., but he's been around long enough that he was there when Josh went out to visit last fall.
Ian's coughing again, and this time when he fumbles around for something out of frame he comes up with a handful of tissues, and sets the phone down to blow his nose, which just makes him sneeze again. Twice.
"That doesn't sound good," Josh says when Ian picks the phone back up.
Ian shakes his head dismissively. "I'm fine."
"Dude," Jayson says from the background. "You've sneezed like ten times already, and I only got up fifteen minutes ago."
Ian flips him off. Jayson shrugs and goes back to his coffee and his book.
Back to Josh: "Don't look at me like that."
Josh sighs. "You know what I'm going to say."
"That I've got shit to do and the start of a cold is not enough to stop me?"
At least he admits it. "That it's a Sunday morning with no obligations and you should go back to bed."
"Do you want to see my to-do list?" His voice is starting to sound strained.
"I wouldn't be able to read it." Ian had, at some point, figured out a system that worked for him. And only him.
"It says I have three sponsored posts to do and half a dozen venues to contact." Ian's been able to parlay his low-level fame into social media deals and solo shows and appearances with other people's bands, and there's a little bit of streaming revenue coming in from their World Above stuff. But only a little bit.
"Four," Jayson says without looking up from his book. "Sponsored posts."
"Oh, shit, you're right." Ian scrubs at his forehead. He's still in go-go-go mode, but he's fading, about to crash, his tan skin washing out before Josh's eyes except for where his nose is starting to be rubbed raw.
"And that all has to happen today?" God, he hopes not.
"Well, no. h'TCHIU!" He sniffs and reaches for more tissues. "Not technically."
"Bless you. So it can wait a couple of days?"
Ian shrugs, not meeting his eyes, which in this case is a yes.
"So you should go back to bed."
Ian grumbles unintelligibly. Finley noses his way toward the phone to see what's going on, and Josh has to stop him from licking the screen.
"I don't think your sponsors want someone clearly sick doing their ad reads," he tries.
"Fuck you, I always look good."
Josh rolls his eyes. "You can post reels or whatever from your sickbed. Get plenty of sympathy likes."
"Hey, some people think that's hot." Because Jayson is fully a part of this conversation now, apparently.
Ian's resolve is starting to waver, but he shakes his head firmly. "I can do it."
God, this would be so much easier if he was there. "Ian, I say this with love, stop being so fucking stubborn and just go the fuck back to bed. You need it."
Ian tries to protest some more but just starts coughing instead, and by the time that's over all of his fight is gone. Jayson had gotten up at some point and filled a glass with water, and he hands it to Ian and steers him by the shoulders back toward the stairs.
"I got it, I got it," Ian mumbles, shaking off his hands, and starts slowly climbing the stairs.
"Thanks, Jayson," Josh says, relieved. He gets a salute in return, and then they're alone.
Ian's breathing heavily by time he gets to the top of the stairs, and his nose is running, and it almost looks like he's starting to shiver. He shuts his door behind him and curls up under the covers, eyes barely open.
"Josh?" A little shaky.
"Yeah."
"I don't feel good."
Gentle: "I know. I'm sorry. Do you want to take anything, or just go to sleep?"
Ian nods, which Josh takes to mean the second option, but doesn't close his eyes.
"Here. Hang out with Finn for a while." He turns the phone around so Ian can see Finley lapping up water across the room, and then back to himself when Finn spots the invitation and pushes his way past the coffee table to nestle between Josh's legs, wagging his tail even though there's not really enough room and licking the screen before Josh can stop him.
"Puppy kisses," Ian says, hoarse and vague.
"Puppy kisses," Josh agrees, wiping the slobber from the screen. "Everything else can wait, okay?"
"Okay," Ian whispers.
Josh scratches Finn behind the ears and nods. "Everything else can wait."
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Hey! I was summoned by the tags you put under my post bc I also very much enjoy discussing ethics. I might make this into its own post so I'll try to not elaborate too much...
I think that I can't just decide for everyone if the difference between doing good for the sake of goodness or in order to save oneself matters, but for me, in most cases, including Dazai's case, it doesn't.
I like to believe that morality is a choice one can decide to make, and I don't think it's fair to take that away from them, regardless on how they might feel on the inside. It's a wonderful thing to act morally because it's your "natural" tendency, but I think people also have the right to do so deliberately, for a reason that they choose, without their choice being minimised. They're two different processes for sure, but if the outcome is good, then the action is a good action, and, if being moral is a choice, then I don't think I have the right to decide that only one intention or emotion that will lead there is good enough.
Also, doing good for your own sake and for the sake of others are mutually exclusive at all. One feeds the other, and if we were to put every person's actions under such scrutiny, we would ultimately run in circles.
So, for people outside the story, I would say that the debate does matter, but for the sake of the people involved, it doesn't, because the outcome is the same, especially since Dazai is so opaque as a character, and what he really feels about the things he does is so hard to read, so at the end of the day all most of them experience is his actions.
[Post this is referring to] Thank you for your elaboration, I loved hearing your opinion on the matter!!! That's close to consequentialism, isn't it? The consequences of one's actions, how much good they produced, are telling of it being morally right or wrong. I don't necessarily agree, but that's definitely a valid way to see it!!! I personally believe one's intentions are the most relevant aspect to take into account when judging whether and action is ethically rightful or not. Note that that is judging the moral of the action itself, and not giving a judgement on the person; people can have a million reasons to act selfishly, and in my very “humans are always inherently good” worldview more often than not it's caused by society rather than an actual preference to not be altruistic. But that doesn't change the fact that even a good action, if it isn't moved by good intentions, won't ever be passable of being morally right to me. Besides, then, wouldn't the other way round work to? Someone well intentioned, who's however incompetent, and ends up with their actions putting more bad in the world– as long as they're acting with a true desire to help others for the sake of it, their actions can't be considered morally wrong for me.
To clarify, with reference to your ask; I don't think people who do something for selfish reasons, and end up doing good, are morally rightful; but if they decide to do good, well, isn't that a well-intentioned aim itself? Then I think they stop being selfish to the extension that they consciously decide they're going to do good. That's not morally reprinandable at all.
Now, regarding Dazai... Honestly, I don't think Dazai is a good person. Because he never meant to do good for the sake of it. But now, the thing is, I don't think anyone in bsd is meant to be interpreted as good or evil– nobody, not Atsushi, not Mori, no one. When it comes to bsd– I do think bsd expresses a more or less nihilist worldview. And I know pretty much everyone else disagrees with me on this, I know, I'm sorry. But I do think there lies an undergoing message that good and bad are ultimately the same, and equally meaningless– it's there in Oda saying “Neither good nor evil mean much to you”, it's there in the way it makes you root for mafiosi like they were the good guys, it's there in the way Dazai never even considered to make amends for the bad things he's done (because they were never bad to begin with, because good and bad mean nothing anyway), it's there in the way it constantly shows good people doing bad and bad people doing good in a way that basically equalises them. To me there's really no point in discussing whether Dazai is good, because he is most evidently not, but that's only because he was never meant to be interpreted as such to begin with. Please refer to this post for further details; it's not surprising at all that Dazai switching over to the “good side” didn't come with a radical change of heart, and that he basically stayed the same, because how could he become good when that's no different than being evil, and those both mean nothing anyway?
And I know most people see bsd's core theme as finding a reason to live, and maybe it is, but even then I think that wouldn't be by denying its nihilism, but rather accepting it and finding a reason to live in spite of it: to me all of bsd really sums up in “that, at least, is a little more beautiful”.
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