#i'm f2p btw!

[yanfei-impact]

I JUST GOT FULL STARS ON THE SPIRAL ABYSS FOR THE FIRST TIME!!!!!

[melverie]

⸺ NIGHTBRINGER CARD LEVELING TOOL ⸺

I made a little something that you feed your card data into and then it spits out which sin and which card you should focus on for leveling

Below the cut is an explanation on to use it! If you have any more questions not already answered below, leave a comment on here or send me an ask! I'll do my best to help you once I have the time to

[last time this post was updated: April 7th 2024]

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dedicated to @misc-obeyme because talking with them about card leveling inspired me to make this entire thing in the first place, as well as @impish-ivy and @dsimeon for testing it for me and for giving me some pointers on how to improve some things <3

Things covered below:

current team vs dream team

how to enter you card data -> step by step guide

ranking & recommendation

CURRENT TEAM VS DREAM TEAM

CURRENT TEAM

your three strongest demon cards + your three strongest memory cards of each sin (aka your top 3!) -> head to Contacts, filter for only one attribute and sort by strength to get your top 3 demon cards, then repeat for your memory cards. Rinse and repeat for every attribute If one character shows up multiple times in your top 3 demon cards, only count his strongest card and ignore the rest!

DREAM TEAM

the cards you want to use in the long-run. Ideally they should all be either UR or UR+ cards

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HOW TO ENTER YOUR CARD DATA

Head to the sheet called 'card data'. Here you'll find seven charts that are all colored differently depending on what sin they are for

First off, each chart is divided into the following sections:

[1] dream team demon cards

[2] dream team memory cards

[3] current team demon cards

[4] current team memory cards

Here's a quick run-down on all you need to know, but I'll also be going over it step by step a bit further below:

CARD enter who the demon card is of, or any name you associate with your memory card

TOP 3? if it's one of your three strongest cards, check the box; you don't need to re-enter the relevant data below if this box is checked. If it's not, enter the card data of one of your current team cards below it

MAX SIN UP? have you unlocked all of the Devil's Tree sin ups that you can get at your current skill level? If so, check the box

LEVEL enter your card's level

SKILL enter your card's skill level

STRENGTH enter your card's overall strength; sort by 'strenght' in Contacts to get this value

CARD, STRENGTH same as above, this for your current team. Only enter the card data if needed

STEP BY STEP

1. Figure out what cards you want to use in the long run; In my case, that would be Lucifer, Satan and Asmodeus

2. Head to Contacts in the game, select an attribute and sort by 'strength' to determine your three strongest cards

3. Go to the correspinding chart on the spreadsheet. Pick the characters in your dream team from the drop-down menu. The order you enter them in doesn't matter

Check the box for 'top 3?' if they are also one of your three strongest cards. If not, enter the card from the current team below

Your chart should then look something like this:

4. If you have unlocked all the sin ups in the Devil's Tree that you can get with your current skill level, check this box

5. Enter the displayed overall card strength and the current skill level. Click on the card to see its level current level, and then enter that as well

6. Repeat the process for your memory cards

Once you're done, the chart should look something like this:

7. Repeat for all other attributes

8. Once you're done, head to the sheet 'rec & ranking'

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RANKING & RECOMMENDATION

RANKING

just a little ranking to show you how your sins are doing because I thought it'd be cool to have :] Keep in mind that it can't properly display ties tho! You'll have to enter all card data for it to work properly

RECOMMENDATION

The recommendation will tell you what order you should level your sins in, what cards you should level, what level and skill level to raise them to, and if you should work on its Devil's Tree first

But first, you need to configure the settings for your recommendation. You can choose

if you want demon and memory cards to be displayed seperately (overwritten only if you choose to display all sins)

how many sins should be displayed

if your current team should be factored into, or if it should be based purely on your dream team

Personally, I'd recommend going with seperated, display all sins (weakest to strongest), and to factor the current team in, but you can change it around to what best fits your needs

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Again, if you have any questions or suggests, comment them on here. My asks are also always open, so you can also ask that way!

Anyway, best of luck with leveling your cards, everyone!!

[frugalkubal]

My afkJ heroes will soon catch up with my afkA heroes' level. (⁠☆⁠▽⁠☆⁠)

[the--firevenus]

Cecia honey why you so obsessed with me!??? My first time ever gotten a supreme +?? I KEEP GETTING HER WHEN I PULL 😭😭 I LOVE YOU BUT I NEED MY THORAN MAN

[fischerfrey]

hpma: roe malinda

[daydreaming-robot]

GUESS WHO GOT MYSTIC FLOUR COOKIE

[xyoonx]

What is this call event and why do I suddenly get the urge to waste all my SIM cards on Clarence?

[hyperfixationenjoyer]

Biased? Couldn't be me /sar

[sonicfrontiers]

this game literally loves me

[ariquess-arts]

I just started a new character in Guild Wars 2, whos a Charr and named Pyrrhus Havocaxe and whenever I write to my friends about him I keep calling him Purrhys and I can't stop laughing at that

[jazeswhbhaven]

New Card Update! (Release is September 11th)

So we have our first pairing card?!?!?! That's pretty neat. And good news f2p/budget folks, we can summon them with Greater Keys. I've been hoarding those things for a while so I'm pretty prepared to spend a whole bunch.

I'm glad about this because we get those keys so easily, there's FINALLY a use for them (greater keys are the gold ones btw for newbies to the game)

I forgot what S+ includes but from what it's saying, we get special voicelines, Sitri looks damn good in that new outfit of his. Also??? Sitri gets upset when Amy gets hurt???

Ohhhhhhhh this is going to be interesting.

Looking forward to seeing what this card is gonna be about and what our bois can do on the battlefield!

[captaindysdexic]

My problem with Twisted Wonderland

As someone who used to consistently play every single day for months, I've got a lot of issues. Let me preface this by saying I know nothing I'm saying will change the game and how it runs, I just want to come here and rant about the game I used to love.

Rant below the cut

My biggest problem is how grindy the game is, especially as a strict f2p player.

As someone who's never spent money on the game, it is so easy to tell how much of a cash grab the game is. The people that work on the game care about it I'm sure, but it is so hard to do anything in this game.

It's hard to get SSR cards, not only because the Gacha system is hella fucked up, but because it's hard to get enough gems to get pulls. Yeah we've got weekly and the logins, but that's so not enough unless you save for a card months in advance.

When you're a new player they give you some leeway, lots of free stuff because all the easy missions are meant for that, but as you get further and further into the game it's extremely hard to get even a 10 pull unless you're on the game basically 24/7.

As someone who is rank 72- and again, played almost religiously for months- it's hard to enjoy the game.

And I know as the story goes on it's meant to be harder, but because of how little they give you it's hard to get past the story as it goes on. It's hard leveling cards up, especially the spells.

It would be nicer if they gave you more materials or gems, that would make all the grind worth it, but that's not how it is. Hell, even events barely give you any pulls and yet they expect you to spend hours doing lessons to unlock the chapters and leveling up the free cards. Someone who's f2p (in my and my friends experience) will find it hard to get motivation to continue playing.

I want to continue playing, I love the characters and the story, but it's so hard to level up cards, or get pulls, that it breaks my heart and makes me want to not continue because I know I won't ever get that card I want, that I won't be able to get past this chapter, that I won't be able to finish an event fully because of the system.

It's so obvious they don't care about f2p's because reruns and even some event banners are strictly p2p things. Rerun banners require special keys that are pay-walled, event banners like the anime expo ones or special non-event related ones are pay-walled, THEY'RE ALL PAY-WALLED.

To me it is extremely frustrating to know that the developers don't seem to care about the fan base at all.

I mentioned earlier about the Gacha system, which I find really, REALLY dumb. 100 pulls for a guaranteed SSR? 200 needed for the event SSR? That's so dumb! Even if you were p2p you'd have to have some extreme luck to get an event card before at least 70 (which it's hard to get if you're far in game and f2p). In my experience, all the event cards I have that are SSR's (WHICH IS 2 BTW, ive been playing since idia's groom event and only have TWO EVENT CARDS EVEN WITH CONSTANT GRIND) I had to do over 70-80 pulls for and spent weeks grinding for. Not to mention pity doesn't carry over to other banners.

Speaking of events, I swear to god the events are getting shorter and shorter every time. The Stitch event that just passed? I swear it only lasted 3-4 weeks, banners ended way too quickly for any f2p that wasn't saving to pull without extreme luck to get any SSR card, got forbid the event exclusive ones. I got like 25 pulls during that event and 10 of those were because it was Kalim's birthday. It's extremely dumb and next thing you know it events will be lasting only a week or two and you're probably fucked over.

Anyways, that's basically all I have to say. There are a lot of things that frustrate me, like how they do events and some characters stuff, but I can't bother to put it here because I'm not as pressed about that stuff as I am about the stuff I did talk about.

I'm aware that people probably won't read this, but it's nice to get off my chest y'know? I'm going to continue to play the game, but I'll never play as constantly as I did when I first started because it's so hard to play and find motivation for it anymore.

[scenearcee]

the simulanka quest was so not okay. like I was kind bored until Wanderer showed up and I was like ⁉️⁉️ YOU WEREN'T ADVERTISED FOR THIS‼️‼️ and then the reveal that he was the hero all along and that he was brought here to show mini durin that he's not alone in his experiences.

"You just miss your mom don't you?" -Navia 2024

I'm going to cry and rip my hair out. I DID CRY ACTUALLY!!!! My girlfriend thought I was crazy for crying over genshin impact but she doesn't understand the lore.

Like COME ON whichever writer was responsible for this summer quest is going in the burlap sac and floating down the river to think about what they've done.

"So you were betrayed too..."

STOP. STOP IT STOPPOO STOP I CAN'T. He wants his mom and he won't admit it out loud.

AND HE STRAIGHT UP SAID HE'D LIKE TO BE FRIENDS WITH MINI DURIN. SINCE WHEN HAS HE EVER?????? WHAT???? he's healing and connecting with the world around him I cannot be consoled. he has a new little brother now (and by proxy he is now one of Klee's babysitters, because she considers Mini Durin her brother) I'M SO MISERABLE.

btw boycott hyv!!!! going f2p is super hot and sexy ,,,,,

[shuttershocky]

Penny for your thoughts about this thread? Just wanna hear some more opinions from people who work in the industry.

I don't want to fucking talk about pricing and monetization and markets and how F2P live service titles have warped the industry beyond recognition anymore.

The insights look good (of course they look good, this guy literally worked with Square Enix) I just can't fucking take it anymore I know what he says before I even finish reading the tweets and it's reminding me of how I started getting into learning game development in 2010-2011? (I don't remember anymore it's been that long) and EVERY SINGLE TALK AND MEETUP AND LECTURE WAS ABOUT MONETIZATION (to be fair, my local industry was a small one that could only really support mobile back then)

I watched all of this happen. I saw how the mobile industry's designs slowly bled out of mobile and into the AAA industry, warping it forever. I was in college when I first learned what minnows, dolphins, and whales were and why your games ought to be fishing for whales. I watched Team Fortress 2 go from a premium game you got all the content at the start to introducing lootboxes (they popularized that shit outside the gacha sphere btw, people blame Overwatch, but TF2 started that trend) to going F2P. I've been an active Dota player since 2012, meaning I was there when the concept of Battlepasses were first birthed into the world during 2013's The International 3 and which made other companies realize live service titles could gain yet another psychological hold on people to add on to World of Warcraft's skinner boxes.

"We are seeing standard singleplayer games no longer able to gain new audiences as they are crowded out by increasingly growing live service titles like Fortnite" "Why would someone spend 60 dollars to play FF16 for 100 hours when they could continue playing Fortnite and Minecraft and Roblox for free where all their friends are"

I have seen all of this before I remember when Overwatch first came out in 2016 a peculiar statistic was that almost every popular title at the time saw their playerbase drop as everyone moved to Overwatch, EXCEPT for Dota 2's because of how hard Valve had captured their audience to the point where they would not play other games. Of fucking course everyone else learned that was actually an incredibly efficient way to make money forever and they should do that too (except Dota was free and had all characters and all game mdoes unlocked for free, but these other games would now ask you for 60 dollars to play as 4 guys with a 100 hr grind for the rest)

I might feel a little unhinged right now because I have worked for two weekends straight and it's a Sunday night (EDIT - put it in drafts and it is now Monday and I am at work) and I'm still at work working on video games and tomorrow will be Monday and another work week working on video games where if we don't sell our upcoming titles my job is toast but fuuuuuuccckkk dude I just wanted to help make things that people would find fun

Capitalism and corporate greed (but I repeat myself) has twisted an industry that was already shitty in the 90s to be something hideous and completely hostile to the idea of creatives being able to make games that are meant to be played, finished, and remembered fondly and even wholly single player one and done experiences like Insomniac's Spider-Man games need to fill themselves up with checklists or else their audience will claim they got ripped off because the time they spent on it was simply not worth the money which STILL happened with Spider-Man 2 anyway

I'm not against live service games as a concept I love seeing a title like Dota get constant support since 2011 (or 2003ish if you want to count the original WC3 mod) and witness it grow and evolve with the times but I hate how it's become increasingly difficult for other games to exist.

I don't actually have a point to make here I'm just rambling. FF7Rebirth was fucking great though (and I hated FF7Remake as a game) so I hope it actually makes its sales target eventually so it doesn't scare Square into adding even more bullshit filler or worse into the 3rd game. I need to play Vincent Valentine with Rebirth's combat system. it's not a want, but a need. A thirst even.

[neuvillettesnipples]

✨ 80 FUCKING PULLS FOR THIS GORGEOUS BASTARD! ✨

I didn't even lose my 50/50 which I was prepared for since I got Ruan Mei but here we are! I was kind of hoping to get Himeko if I did lose since I don't have her yet but I got the other redhead instead. (I'm f2p btw in case anyone thought otherwise. I'm literally an unemployed college student, 👍).

Now I have my guns-n-roses! 🤭

[melina-mellow]

"Why does Hoyo only listen to CN players"

Well our boycotts of Twitter hashtags, change.org petitions and going f2p are pretty much harmless, and won't really affect the game that much, and most people will forget about it when they have a shiny new toy to play with.

Compared to the fact that CN players have doxxed Hoyo employees, threatened their lives, sued them for fraud and I'm pretty sure Da Wei almost got killed over Hi3's bunny girl controversy.

People forget that CN Genshin players actually have very easy access to Hoyoverse's home base and can cause, actual, physical harm to them and their employees.

This isn't a sign that people should doxx Hoyo's employees or try any assassination attempts against Da Wei btw.

This is not a "so you're saying we should doxx the employees" Do. Not. Do. That... That's scumbag behavior, and putting people's lives at risk just for a game is fucking despicable behavior.

Is Hoyo's colourism an issue? Yes.

Do they deserve the backlash for it. Hell yeah.

Is potentially risking the lives of their employees and their families by doxxing them a sane thing to do? Hell. Fucking. NO!

Also if you're boycotting Hoyo, don't just stop sending in Genshin.

Like, it means literally nothing if you stop sending on Genshin but go send on ZZZ, HSR and Hi3... instead.... they're owned by the same company... If you're not giving them money from GI, you're still giving them money from their other games. Like, it's going to be the same source in the end.