#if they stay out of fandom tags and don't break the fourth wall

[secondbeatsongs]

with twitter imploding, people are talking about how much it'll suck to have celebrities and brands on here, but...I think celebrities can exist on tumblr in a healthy way.

because I've already seen it happen.

I don't know if you guys remember, but there used to be a decent number of celebrities on here! I mean, the white house had an official tumblr! so did my local library for some reason! everyone thought tumblr was the place to be!

we had George Takei, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Hayley Williams, Ariana Grande, Dylan Marron, Dante Basco, Rebecca Sugar, John Green, Hannah Hart, Jacksfilms, Daniel Howell, and Ashens to name a few, as well as brand accounts for Doctor Who, Sherlock, Denny's, and so many others.

(Cole Sprouse was even on here, and it was fine. don't act like it wasn't. it was really not a big deal! it was fine!)

there were plenty of celebrities and brands on tumblr a decade ago - and it worked fine when people knew to stay in their lane!

did Obama's official account give a shit when people posted Obamney slash? absolutely not!

did we pay attention to whatever the brand accounts were posting? we did not!

and so we existed pretty well together on this site - because, after all, we don't have to look at anything we don't want to. we can block people. and they can block us. and we can keep posting what we want, no matter what any celebs or brands have to say about it, just like it's always been.

the only thing I think needs to change is, well...hey...remember how I mentioned John Green and Rebecca Sugar up there?

yeah the reason we don't see them on here anymore isn't because tumblr isn't a place they'd thrive - it's because a bunch of assholes harassed them until they left.

and that's not fucking okay.

so look, if you see celebs/brands on here, follow them, or don't! block them and ignore them, or don't!

but if you send threats and harassment to anyone on here, whether it be a celebrity, brand, or average tumblr user, you are the asshole. full stop. sending threats to other people is never okay. never.

and yes, this goes for the corporate accounts too! those are still run by people!

it's somebody's job to run those accounts, and guess what! that poor, probably-underpaid person doesn't deserve to get sent gore and death threats because their job is running a corporate tumblr account!

just, whatever happens when twitter explodes and dies a horrible death, it's gonna be okay. but please be kind. above everything else, please, I am fucking begging you, be kind.

it's really the most important part of thriving here

[xxghost-zombie-jesus]

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Archive Warning: No Archive Warnings Apply Category: Gen Fandoms: Beetlejuice - Perfect/Brown & King, Beetlejuice - All Media Types Relationships: Beetlejuice & Charles Deetz, Beetlejuice & Lydia Deetz Characters: Beetlejuice (Beetlejuice), Charles Deetz, Lydia Deetz Additional Tags: post-musical, musical verse, Past Child Abuse, Victim Blaming, Juno should be a tw all by herself, Self Harm, Beetlejuice Has Mood Ring Hair (Beetlejuice), past trauma, Some of the other characters are mentioned but don't officially appear so they're not tagged, no beetlebabes, Lydia and Beej are weird siblings, Apologies, please tell me if i missed any tags and i'll add them, No Beta we die like Newly-Deads, Beej has Autism and ADHD, Lydia also has austism, they got that autistic swag sue me, homophobic slur. Breaking the Fourth Wall, (this is beej we're talking about come on), Hurt/Comfort Words: 6961 Chapters: 1/1

"Don't you have something better to do than annoy me?" It was less of a yell than a loud snapped remark, but the raised voice had the same effect in the end. Beetlejuice heard the frustration bleeding through Chuck's voice, at knew he had fucked up. He fully expected a blow to follow, and prepared himself before remembering this was Charles', not his m- Not Juno, but it was too late. He knew the other man had seen his flinch. He had seen the regret in Charles' eyes the second the words were out of his mouth, and Beetlejuice knew his hair was an embarrassing white at the tips, could feel the fear creeping up his spine, blanching his hair as it went.

After being snapped at by Charles, Beetlejuice hides on the roof to mope. It doesn't help his mood that it's raining, but he already made his decision so he's staying put. It's not like anyone's looking for him, anyway.

[twopoppies]

Hey gina, i have a question. Why are fanfics given such a bad name everywhere and it's considered weird to read them and even weirder to write them? People say that it's weird to write stuff about actual people, what is ur response to that? I've written a few fanfics and lately i told someone about it and they were like don't u think that's weird? And i was like no..... I couldn't understand why anyone would think it's weird and why some people, even fic writers, say that certain stuff in fics are crossing a line with the celebrities privacy...

Hi love. I generally find that people who think fanfiction is "weird" have no idea what fanfiction is and their ideas are heavily steeped in purity culture and misogyny. They tend to assume things like it's "just" porn (purity culture) and it's only written and read by "lonely housewives" (misogyny). They have no concept of what it means to say you write "transformative works" or what sort of self discovery can come from reading and/or writing fanfiction. As for celebrities’ privacy, fanfiction is for fans. It's meant to stay within fandom. If some talk show host digs around and pulls it out to laugh about it on air, that's not the fans' fault. If some celebrity digs around and reads it, it's not the fans' fault. If you tag a celebrity or their friends/family etc. in your fanwork, and they get upset, that's on you for breaking the fourth wall.

Erotica, Romance Novels, and Erotic Fiction have been around forever. Because historically it's been mostly consumed by women and queer people, it's a genre that's not given as much weight and respect as "real books". But that is, in fact, bullshit.

I have a ton of posts reblogged under my FANFICTION COMMENTARY tag if you want to have some facts and well-articulated arguments to the jackasses who tell you you're "weird".

[queerasinfvckyov]

"#the rest of us on this particular blue hellsite #just send our conspiracy theories off into the wilderness #for the consumption of the others trapped here" i think this is quite a naive look at the larrie hive mind & the way fandom on tumblr operates. some of the things i see on here are just as problematic as twitter or instagram posts i see. the misogyny is rife, the verbal abuse of a CHILD is rife. i don't give a shit about larry either way, but big larries on here spread harmful [1/3]

misinformation & perpetuate harmful stereotypes of the lgbt+ community, and also focus on larry so much that their shipping is invasive in so many ways. i think shipping is fine if it stays within the realms of fandom, but having been a larrie and seeing it all on the outside now, i would say the majority of larries do not operate purely within fandom with their theories, and the families and friends of larry are often affected by their behaviour. this goes without mentioning the fact that [2/3]

the private lives of harry and louis (& the others, too) is actually none of our business. the laser beam focus on their love lives is nosy and disrespectful and sets a bad precedent for other, more impressionable fans who get this idea that someone’s relationship and someone’s sexuality defines them. and this is why shipping larry needs to 1) stay in fandom, and 2) stop morphing into ACTUAL real BELIEF that they are together. it doesn’t matter whether they are - it’s not our business [3/3]

Those tags were meant to be facetious, so I think that might be where you’re getting that sense of naivety? Obviously there’s definitely a lot of bs that goes on in the larrie part of the fandom on tumblr, too. I suppose I was just referencing more generally that there’s a lot more focus on rambly meta headcanon-y content analysis sort of content that I think probably takes up more focus on here than on the other platforms (if it occurs there at all? I’m not really sure how twitter and insta deal with that type of content but I digress). 

However, I will definitely have to disagree with you on the “larrie hive mind” bit. Like I’m genuinely surprised you’d get that kind of impression because there is a ridiculous amount of difference in the kinds of opinions larries hold on a variety of topics. I think the only defining characteristics you could say about larries is that we all believe hl are a thing and still together--even depending on the larrie you follow the stuff about the baby can differ (for example, some prefer not to talk about it which is fair). 

I’m not sure what big larries you’re thinking of when you say they spread misconceptions of the queer community, because, and bear in mind I’m not familiar with all the “big larries” in the fandom (I’m terrible with keeping track of most blogs I don’t follow), the ones I am aware about are part of the queer community themselves???? Sorry I don’t follow your logic here. 

And for the rest of the ask I’d say we fall on opposite grounds here, anon. I do agree we shouldn’t bother their friends and family members, but I don’t think that necessarily has to do with being a larrie or not. Fans in general shouldn’t bother their family members and bring fandom to the family, so to speak, however one engages with fandom (you know, don’t break the fourth wall and all that--FOR EVERYBODY, although that obviously isn’t always practiced but regardless it’s my personal philosophy). I mean fine, if people are sharing things on public social media like and share the pictures or whatnot because the family is posting it publicly (I assume; I don’t follow any of the family on sm so I could be wrong here) so that’s cool, but don’t bother the family. However, I firmly disagree that the simple belief (ie, that hl are together) and acting a certain way (operating under that assumption and blogging and creating content based on that belief) within fandom  confines needs to change based on the feelings of people who are supposed to be outside the fandom. 

Building on that, I don’t understand why if blogging about harry and louis (as well as the others) and their music and hl’s relationship in particular as I perceive it is nosier than, say, the way that their relationships (particularly louis’) are put front and centre during is musical promo and in newspapers and on his social media if one believes things that way. Why are the larries considered nosy and disrespectful and causing problems for simply believing one ‘reality’ (if you want to call it that) and engaging in fandom accordingly but not the media or the het fans or freddies or neutrals or whatever you want to call them for believing another and engaging in fandom accordingly? This is under the assumption of course it’s kept in-fandom because I believe we are in agreement on that point. 

Also, it’s not my personal business or responsibility to teach other fans that people aren’t defined by their sexuality or their relationships. If that’s the idea they’re getting from fandom that’s something they really need to think critically about on their own because, frankly, that’s a bigger problem than something that would come from larrie-specific business as far as I’m concerned. 

More generally, I don’t really understand the none of our business argument? Like, speaking for me personally (and I assume a lot of other larries? at least the ones I tend to follow and am friends with), I didn’t come to the conclusion that hl are together because I asked around and bothered people for information, it was genuinely just through watching 1d videos and seeing the matching tattoos pointed out. Like...is the expectation that people don’t come to conclusions based on how they perceive the information in front of them? Like I get that in the case of value judgments, for sure. 

But if I see two people I don’t personally know acting like a couple (or what I perceive to be couple-like based on certain standards, both personal and societal) and come to the conclusion that they are a couple I’m not sure how it’s a matter of somebody’s business or not? Because again, I don’t mean going out of your way to ask somebody or bother somebody about it (as one should not do if one is a respectful fan, larrie or not) because it’s none of your business in that sense for sure. I mean simply looking at scenarios/objective evidence/facts whatever you want to call it and drawing your own personal conclusions is really all that is? Taking in information from the environment, analyzing it, and synthesizing it to come to a conclusion. 

Idk. Just how I think of things. As always, you can unfollow if it’s a problem and you disagree.