#im sorry religious people

[sparrowstarsandsorrow]

Jcs 2000 + Templates because the brainrot is consuming me WHOLE.

[calkale]

hot take ✋ but i don't think jake has religious trauma, i don't think his family was religious at all. I think he had a father who wasn’t happy with his life and made it known but he never put a hand on any member of his family. His mama loves him for who he is and sure it took her a while to understand jake but shes always loved him and always will and shes willing to change for the things he can’t change.

[creekfiend]

I think a lot of this 'religion is necessarily oppressive' stuff honestly is kind of like the confusion about ppl thinking that like, slavery and scientific racism and etc came about BECAUSE OF beliefs that Black people etc were not fully human rather than those beliefs -- those ARGUMENTS, really -- being JUSTIFICATIONS that were invented to allow white ppl to continue to engage in slavery which was at its core about economic exploitation. Like that most systemic bigotry serves a Useful Purpose to those in power and that's why it exists; the policies aren't put in place because of the beliefs. The cart isn't pulling the horse. Christian stuff was used to justify the same things that later, "scientific progress" was used to justify in the west (e.g. scientific racism, eugenics, etc. Very very very much rooted in the idea of certain beliefs and cultures as inherently more rational and forward thinking because BEING RATIONAL AND VALUING SCIENTIFIC PROGRESS WERE CULTURAL VALUES AT THE TIME.) (This does not say anything about Science. It says things about Institutes and power and oppression.)

Similarly, you see a lot of people saying "well religion is used to justify oppression by the people in power" and its like yes. Religion is not unique. Beliefs about what is true about the world -- ideology -- can always be used to do this and frequently is.

When there are common beliefs held by a majority of people in a given culture those beliefs will be used by the people in power to explain and justify the things they do to maintain power and control in society.

This isn't a function of religion. It's a function of power.

When people say "well, this religious rhetoric is/was used to justify misogynistic legal standards in this society" the answer is yep. And if it wasn't that it would be something else because that society had an investment in that specific kind of oppression of women. We have seen this morph into 'rational' 'scientific' explanations for women's inferiority and justifications for making women second class citizens once the cultural values swing more towards rationality and science, as well. Thats... regular.

Like... love to have a good faith convo about this with someone who doesn't get weird and reactionary about "Religious People" but sure not seeing much of that going on. Weirdly.

Anyway.

[hindahoney]

Jews are allowed to hate Christianity 🤷🏻‍♀️ You know how many Jews have been killed by Christians? How many thousands of years they have persecuted us? How they're still, in many ways, persecuting us because they're angry they didn't supercede us? Christianity has done a lot of harm to us, and so have individual Christians who try to convert Jews on a daily basis.

[nessvn]

it's so irritating me when i take courses that heavily touch on religion or religious history and no one else in the class can fathom that people's religious beliefs are genuinely held and deeply central parts of their worldview. "why didn't the jews just convert to escape persecution/restrictions/taxation/etc." bc judaism isn't just some whim ??? bc if you genuinely believe in the torah then the thought of apostasy isn't just a savvy political move or whatever it's a violation of your sincerely held beliefs ??? the same goes for like "why would heretics be willing to burn at the stake for their beliefs" and obv the war against heresy was complex and had political as well as religious dimensions but also like. well they're willing to die for their beliefs bc they're not just "heretics" for the fun of it they genuinely believe that their way is the real path to salvation or whatever.

[daisy-mooon]

some of you aren't cool gay rights activists. some of you just needed a reason to justify your unreasonable hatred of religion so you don't look like a bad person so you picked "defending gay rights". it's gotten to the point where if a religious person supports gay rights, you will rip them to shreds. supporting gay rights means supporting the rights of gay religious people too, but some of you can't accept that because it means that your excuse for mindless hatred is suddenly worthless.

[hopefullystillliving]

You ever get lulled into a false sense of security during the first two thirds of a kid's movie that's good with a serious plot but mostly a pretty fun time, only to have the entire final third tear your heart out, chew it up and spit it out, crush it into even finer paste beneath its heel, and add the fine powder your ribs have been turned into by the sledgehammer it whammed you with as a seasoning?

Anyway Nimona was great, 10/10 would recommend, I was crying on and off for what probably totaled 20 minutes of tears.

[misschibidoodles2]

NFWMB is hualian coded I don't make the rules

[narwhalandchill]

its been like. nearly a year (How.) already but i cannot lie theres Still a part in the back of my brain occupied with and being thoroughly entertained by the way that childes confirmed 4.0 complete self-awareness over waking up the narwhal at 14 recontextualizes some key liyue things leading to some very funny self indulgent scenarios in my head

like yes chili is old news its basic please excuse me for predictable popular ship crimes (do NOT however associate me w the crimes of fanon against their actual range. theyre peak to Me) but i just keep replaying the imagery of zhongli and childe back on their homoerotic Professional Working Relationship bullshit where their flirting passed the jkjk unless treshold of even remotely plausible deniability like 8 exorbitantly priced business dinners ago and theyre just like. doing that whole song and dance now neither committing to a move except zhonglis presently feeling moderately conflicted (but nonetheless fairly unfazed at) by the prospects of actually developing some sort of a thing for the harbinger hes supposed to puppet master into executing the major story climax of his 67-step retirement plan bc he turned out to be quite the strangely charming ginger specimen (to His weird fucking 6000 year old tastes at least. they deserve each other) with some fascinating life ambitions he cant help but be enraptured by.

but because hes still 100% Locked In on his entire plan zhonglis also just . simultaneously dual wielding his coy-ass "i like you and am taking it slow to Savor this developing relationship (Also bc of the Geo Archon Shaped Elephant In The Room) except am old as shit so my languid sense of time inadvertedly Automatically turns my behavior into an equivalent of the dark souls boss of playing hard2get" act (cue "waddup im ajax 24 and im in fucking agony with this hot funeral consultant". Yes they live like this) AND also meticulously theorycrafting like 12 moves in advance for his 6d chess play of leaving the most subtly crafted trail of breadcrumbs behind for the tsaritsas 11th to follow into the intended & completely "Coincidental" idea of unleashing the one particular sealed sea deity that zhongli Specifically wants momentarily released for his sweet 6k retirement party and graduation test for the nation hes helicopter parented for 3.7k years .

like. this is zhongli we r talking about the guy Absolutely has it planned out down to a fucking art like he has an entire branching path dialogue tree planned and memorized like its a visual novel for every possible way he can conveniently namedrop osial in a non-suspect way and also that he just happens to be sealed right over there across the harbor (what a coincidence!) and also to slip in the intel about the latent power of the sigil of permission etc etc. like zhonglis just out there doing all this massive galaxy brain computational work simultaneously while infodumping on an academic level about whichever subject childes latest random comment of amicable small talk happened to remind him of because in his helicopter parent in remission mind its Absolutely Critical that the idea about releasing osial occurs Completely organically in childes mind it Has to he Cannot risk revealing anything . (hes in remission not in recovery guys.) so like here we are. he requested notes from the tsaritsa Personally on the character of her 11th just to ensure every move was painstakingly crafted to draw him Specifically to the intended conclusion without risking revealing his true identity .

except. the thing . neither he. nor the tsaritsa . would have been informed of . is that this simply isnt childes first fucking rodeo waking up an eldritch city sized sea creature . and he is very well aware of this fact . he woke that beautiful wonderful beloved huge fucking narwhal up by himself had his brain chemistry Immediately and Irrevocably rewired as a direct consequence do you fucking think hes somehow stopped thinking about that singular moment for even a second since then???

yeah . thought so.

so what actually ends up happening in reality is theyll be on another definitely-serious-business-not-just-a-date and zhonglis going to get down to like dialogue selection part 10 of the 86 step conversation tree at Most where hes only beginning to like Vaguely allude to the key pieces of information involved but it turns out Because Hes That Guy (TM) And Has Been There Done That Before childes basic pattern recognition and sense of irony simply proceed to kick in Way ahead of time and hes Immediately perking up like Hey wouldnt it be really fucking funny if i wake up an eldritch sea beast Again . like just in case. as a last ditch effort .

and zhonglis just sitting there seeing the gears turn in his head as they enjoy their cringe fucking picnic (bc they just stare at each other intently like that nowadays its a thing. being in a room with them by this point is essentially a human rights violation) and is just completely fucking flabbergasted and lost on how in the hell childes speedran his way to that conclusion at what amounts to barely a 13% completion rate in his whole overkill fucking plan (just 1 of 3 contingencies btw) and its like yes he has his intended outcome but also precisely 0 idea on how the fuck said outcome was reached the way it was this fast . like hes still winning its His plan thats well underway and ahead of schedule but How

(pov: ur selling the concept of waking up destructive sea creatures to the guy who woke up a celestial body eating cosmic whale at 14)

anyway its truly beautiful i absolutely detest these two and have prime liyue AQ hijinks nostalgia now thank you for the lore drop that allowed this to become canon in my head hoyo

[sodrippy]

alright I'll bite, who is this fish guy and why do u tag the most unhinged posts for him, I'm so intrigued

HI reading this made me laugh, he is a little unhinged youre right.

jackson 'jax' 'axe' 'fish' fischer is a guy i made for a laugh while my friends and i were brainstorming funny dnd character concepts, but now he's real and serious to me. he's the knight of a righteous god, blessed with a healing touch, taught since childhood that he was born to do good and help people, and he does all that (and does it well), until one day it just...doesn't work. he loses his power and he can't help anyone anymore. he still has his sword and his strength, and he uses those to aid those in need, but its not the same, its not what he was made for. he prays and prays and prays and hears nothing back, and then he gets angry.

all he can do is fight, and watch the carnage left behind with nothing more to offer. he leaves. he turns away from the people who need him, he uses his sword and his strength for the people who can pay, instead. he's bitter and blood soaked, and all alone, and makes the insane decision to go find god. he deserves some kind of answer, right? and definitely the logical way to talk to the god who abandoned you a la spiritual ghosting is to...seek them out in the material world...

so he sets out, man on a mission and all that, gets a lot more blood on his hands and really falls into a sunk cost fallacy of like, 'if i stop now all the ugly things ive done and the way ive made a monster of myself have been for nothing' that makes him push ahead despite it all.

one time when he's almost dead, he feels a new bond in the place where his link to his old god was, but he has no fucking clue who it is or whats going on, and he tries to ignore it for a while, but eventually he accepts the help and lets the new presence guide him, because it seems to be working out. if nothing else, it seems to heal him every time he falls, and with all the shit he's doing, that's enough of a reason to follow.

now, who's to say if he was almost dead when this new thing found him, or he was actually dead. we just don't know! (because we are actively ignoring thinking about it because it goes against everything we were taught as young, blessed children!)

[dolokhoded]

this show is so unserious.

[distfae]

to be honest i like to say alfonse is closer to 5'10 without those heels... theres no way that guy is reaching 6 ft tall in my mind

[bernard-the-rabbit]

What kind of lord would order a father to kill his own son, He’s the only lord we have, the lord of our ancestors, the lord who was here when we were born.

José Saramago, Cain: A Novel

[cryptile]

If i dont reply to dms and asks its because im like that kitten full of milk image but instead im full of mental illnesses i hope you guys understand 🙏 i love all my mutuals like jesus loves his chidlren i prommy

[thehealingsystem]

now im......not jewish, and not well educated on this subject so im not sure about how to talk about it myself, but this has been picking at my mind so......can anyone tell me if this is antisemitic or not?

oh and let me just say, the original anon this person is responding to didn't mention america or living in america AT ALL. the conversation was suddenly changed to be about the us, which is the center of the world obviously (/sar), with this additional comment

im not informed enough to combat this, though this post did NOT give me a good feeling while reading it

[688199]

I could go into depth as to why Hazbin Hotel’s pilot was significantly better than the actual series (minus voice acting and song quality) but will I?

Let’s speed run through just how the opening scene of both the pilot and episode 1 differs, and how the pilot is better.

So the pilot opens with Charlie singing solemnly, while we get a brief look into the aftermath of the extermination and how it affects different people (for example the Vees seemingly don’t care, different to the implication of Carmilla having the curtains closed during the extermination), specifically Charlie.

This entire scenes makes clear early on that this extermination thing really really upsets Charlie and makes her doubt herself and the world. It immediately grounds her character as one who has empathy and insecurity.

I would also like to add that I really like how the tower countdown thing resets to 365 so we are shown that the extermination is a yearly, devastating event.

On the other hand, the actual episode 1 opens with Charlie forcing exposition about her parents’ lore and then directly telling us everything that the pilot lets us infer.

> “I get pretty worked up after the extermination happens.” We’re only shown chaos in the background, rather than taken through that chaos. There’s no time to digest just how bad the extermination is and how it impacts hell.

Since viewers are new to the world and series, they don’t know how hell is like. The happy day in hell musical number later on makes it seem like that’s what hell is normally supposed to look despite it being the aftermath of an extermination.

This leads to Charlie’s motivations being weak. We know that the extermination is bad, sure, logically. But the opening scene fails to let us feel it the same way the pilot does.

If the extermination plays such a huge role in motivating Charlie’s actions, why is it only told to us super briefly?

Not only that, “pretty worked up” doesn’t even show through in Charlie’s action well. It’s just there to force Charlie to dump exposition. Compare this to pilot Charlie who cried while singing.

The issue with the Prime Hazbin Hotel is its pacing and the way it assumes you’ve watched the pilot and are a fan who already knows all about the series and characters. But it can’t do that. But it does, so execution wise it fails quite miserably.

Allat just for just the opening scene. I can go much further but I’m too lazy right now.