#ineffable miracles

[notesbutnotfromunderground]

About the 25 Lazari miracle??

Hullo dearly beloved Good Omens fandom.

So, we all know by now that between hell and heaven, heaven is the one more strict when it comes to tracking and monitoring miracles; RE, Aziraphale once mentioned he was reprimanded for doing so many miracles (or something like that).

So, about the 25 Lazari miracle. Kinda makes me wonder now that when the half-miracle Crowley and Aziraphale did to hide Gabriel was supposed to be a "tiny miracle", why is it that only Heaven was alarmed or triggered? And even when Crowley was hinting on Shax, "Who says it wasn't me?", Shax pushes it off. I mean, my point is, why was Crowley's miracle detected by Heaven and not by Hell?

[For now, I take this as more than a hint towards Crowley being a former Archangel of sorts, not necessarily Lucifer (well, since NG already said they were different, and this is a topic for a different day)] I'm definitely not the first one to think of this.

Like, did I miss the part where heaven can also monitor the miracles being done by demons, such as Crowley? Or a part where Hell just doesn't care about demons miracling miracles away as Crowley does. But that's kind of off because Crowley has been on the watchlist of some of the demons, so someone must noticed his miracles, particularly that big of a miracle. And also, when he did a good deed, he was punished and pulled back to hell for some time.

[Edit: Beelzebub would have noticed something's off as well and she would've confronted Crowley by then as well. She might have been able to put the pieces together and figured it out by herself. But that didn't happen. Shax was the one who has been going up and down.]

I guess what I'm really trying to ask is: somewhere in the ineffable bureaucracy of heaven, does Crowley's miracle(s) still count as a(n) angelic miracle(s)?

But then again, we do see him literally pull his miracle upward, pulling from down hell, compared to Aziraphale's downward hand gestures as pulling from heaven.

We can definitely factor in the following as well:

- they were holding Gabriel, so the miracle could have been amplified

- Crowley is a really powerful Angel demon

- Crowley and Aziraphale complement each other, and they are therefore powerful together (which some of you have already pointed as the reason why Metatron is trying to rip them apart)

Like I know Aziraphale is not just a low ranking or a weak angel because after all, he was the Guardian of the Garden of Eden. But he doesn't seem to be the kind to be making 25 Lazari miracles in just a tiny effort.

Oh, Crowley, you Pandora's box.

How did you become the Angel who "Let there be light." to the Demon who vaguely sauntered downwards?

And what specific sets of questions did you ask for you to fall from God's grace?

What part do you play in this ineffable chess game? Or are you, just like God, watching from the outside?

[kneedecker]

Good Omens 2: specifically s2e5, The Ball.

Around 37 minutes into the episode, Maggie goes to “Mr. Fell” to ask what’s going on. There’s 1/75th of a legion of demons at the door, Crowley has bamboozled them with a bit of legalese—and Aziraphale frantically wiggles his fingers in Maggie’s face (and Nina’s; she’s right behind Maggie, looking over Maggie’s right shoulder). We hear the miracle noise, and Maggie seems to flinch. It doesn’t take(?), and he tries again.

Maggie: I still don’t understand. What’s happening?

Aziraphale: Um… It’s a bit complicated, but, um… Probably best you forget all about it [Miracle Sound] and do whatever Mr. Crowley suggests. [Miracle Sound]

Maggie: Are you trying to hypnotize me? Is that what’s happening on here?

Nina: You’re doing something to us.

Aziraphale: I’m trying to save your lives!

Um, I have questions! WHAT is this miracle(s) for? Presumably the first to wipe their memory, and the second to make them obedient to Crowley so that they can be led to safety. So WHY does it not work? If Shax had used a miracle blocker, wouldn’t that have prevented Aziraphale from moving the chandelier around in the next scene as he prepares for battle?

[crowleyholmes]

Been working on this for a while and if I don't post it now I never will so here you go <3 enjoy the most self-indulgent thing I've ever spent time on - I just really needed them to hug...

[ineffablelunatics]

Aziraphale pulls down when doing a miracle, because he’s pulling down from Heaven

Post-Fall Crowley pulls up then snaps. Showing that he is pulling power from Hell

Pre-Fall Crowley does both. He pulls down and slightly up then pushes forward because there isn’t an Earth yet. He would be pulling power from anywhere and everywhere. There would only be the divine.

When they perform the Jim miracle together, they both slowly pull respectively from their “own” sides

[lineffability]

"apparently if we do a miracle together it all works a bit too well" listen LISTEN i think this is why. i think the magnitude and power of that miracle they did together is what alerted the metatron and why he has come to separate them by all means, because they have not realized yet quite how powerful they are together and what that could mean!! this is why, i think???? they used to do each other's miracles and temptations for each other, but never with, and that could change everythign and could get in the way of certain Ineffable Plans (that i don't think are necessarily God's, looking at you villain metatrash)

[yourangle-yuordevil]

First time they make an effort (because going to the bathhouses Barbie style™ would have raised more questions than necessary...)

[melonsharks]

i went. insane. LOOK. i know a lot of people realllyyyy wanted crowley to be the wedding dress designer LOOK I KNOW AND ITS OK u can make ur own au i promise but in MY WORLD. you need to understand me.

crowley owning a vineyard is personal to me. he is THE snake in the garden of eden, tempting is his JOB ok. he makes wines aziraphale indulges in, aziraphale designs dresses with crowley in mind. do you hear me. are you listening to me. i have everything from the second they meet mapped out OK i know what im talking about. listen to my delusions, boy.

[itsscottiesstark]

No, cause mentally, I'm still here.

DO YOU SEE HIS LITTLE SMIRK? ALMOST AS IF HE'S FIGHTING IT. BUT IT'S THERE.

Ffffuck. Me.

Completely not over the fact that baby girl had a whole ass "Oh. Oh." moment in front of us. He even sighs as the oh comes in.

Should I be paying rent to someone? Cause I absolutely live there and I have no intentions of moving. Who do I talk to about this?

[gingiekittycat]

"There must be something I can do for you."

OK so I have been trying for the longest time to make sense of why the fuck they KEPT GOING WITH THE MAGIC ACT when they realized they couldn't do miracles. And I think I've got it.

Once again, it boils down to misunderstanding and miscommunication (surprise surprise):

I fully believe Aziraphale thought he was doing Crowley a favor by offering to do his magic act. Crowley’s in trouble with the theater, the alcohol he was going to sell is ruined because of Aziraphale’s shenanigans at the church. To take some of the pressure off Crowley, he offers to perform.

Here's the thing, though. Aziraphale DOESN'T think he's a very good magician. Just look at how nervous he is! He has zero confidence. Even the coin trick he does for Crowley, he's shocked and delighted when it actually works because he doesn't think it's going to. He's pretending for Crowley's sake because he's trying to get Crowley out of the hot seat with the theater.

That's also why he chooses such a dramatic and dangerous trick for the stage: he has to make it good for Crowley.

Meanwhile.

MEANWHILE.

Crowley sees Aziraphale's offer to do the magic act purely as another one of Aziraphale’s whimsies. Which of course he is going to indulge, because he's a lovesick fool. He goes into FULL SUPPORTIVE HUSBAND mode, builds up Aziraphale's confidence, agrees to do the highly dangerous trick because Aziraphale wants to, because he thinks Aziraphale thinks he's good at magic, because he thinks Aziraphale really wants to get up on stage and perform, and he just doesn't want to see Aziraphale embarrassed... (Sound familiar???)

So. We get to the stage. Aziraphale doesn’t actually want to be there, but he's doing it for Crowley; Crowley doesn't actually want to be there, but he's doing it for Aziraphale. BOTH of them are complete idiots, because they're so enamored with each other and so fucking COMMITTED that neither of them wants to back down when they find out they can't do miracles. They just really want to make their husband happy--so badly that they're willing to risk discorporation for it.

In conclusion: they are idiots and I love them but THEY NEED TO COMMUNICATE JESUS CHRIST

It's no wonder the season ended like it did...

[wilywitchwahoo]

Agnes Nutter'ed it ✨

[astrhae]

Let there be matter, let there be gravity, let there be everything from pages 11 to 3,000,602 inclusive... (Funny if I did the good thing and you did the bad one, eh?)

GOOD OMENS SEASON 2 + the seven virtues and the seven sins

[cloud-based-and-rainpilled]

He really said “I am aggressively gay what the fuck are you talking about”

[davinaclare]

GOOD OMENS  | 1.02 “The Book”

[clumsycapitolunicorn]

"I like the song." "Song?" "The music that's playing now." "What music?" "The noise." "That's music?" "I like it."

GABRIEL & BEELZEBUB | GOOD OMENS: EVERY DAY 2.06

[i-seeaspaceshipinthe-sky]

a few moments earlier:

1941 | 1967

[tamago-aki]

thinking about the theory of David Tennant being Crowley's stage name since Doctor Who is canon in universe for Good Omens now