#introverted sensing

[cognitivedoodles]

Letting the past go.

An comic I made a while ago that I didn't post lmao

[oiblackestsheep]

Introverted Sensing (Si) is More Valuable than You Think it is

I touched on this a little in another post I made, but it wasn't the main focus, so I'm making this it's own thing.

Introverted Sensing (Si) is most frequently referred to as using tradition as a way of perceiving things that lead to your judgements later. Some examples include following instructions to a T (or being unable to do things without said instructions), making lists, keeping daily planners, and referring to the past (often times personal memories, but can also be previously reported data) to inform the present.

These examples aren't necessarily wrong, but they are sometimes twisted in a negative way that can makes this cognitive function (and the associate types ISTJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ESFJ) become interpretted as simple, thoughtless, repetititve, useless, boring, and "basic".

There is a much deeper side to Si that I think needs to be talked about, so that's what I'm going to do.

Introduction

Now, the flaws I listed above, also are not necessarily wrong. High Si uses can embody all of those negative traits, but it is much more rare than the iNtuitive bias would have you believe, because those negative traits come out when Si users are at their absolute worst.

And how often is anybody truly at their absolute worst?

I choose to think of Si predominantly not as tradition, but as a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP).

Standard Operating Procedure and Si

What is an SOP? An SOP is a detailed step-by-step list of instructions that you follow from start to finish in order to obtain a completely finished, fully function product/result.

Sounds very Si, doesn't it? That's because it is! And SOPs are absolutely mission critical to so many things in our daily lives because they ensure that a certain level of quality control (QC) and quality assurance (QA) is in place at all times. Some things absolutely need to be the exact same every single time because there is very little room for error and products need to consistently pass quality checks in order to be viable for general public use.

SOP Examples

If you don't follow the instructions exactly right, the cake you are baking will taste very badly. The furniture you are building will not be fully functional, or even unsafe to use. The scientific experiment you are doing will include bias, contamination, or simply will not work, and you won't produce any results.

Si is incredibly vital because by ensuring that everthing is done the exact same way every time, you should expect the same results every time. So when you do not get the same results, it is incredibly easy to notice, and focus heavily on why results are different than expected.

This is how we learn and make discoveries.

Conclusion

We aren't wrong about Si or what it means. We aren't wrong about it's potential pitfalls. We are wrong to focus so heavily on pitfalls and not focus on how effective and essential Si can be when it is being used productively.

Yes, Si can be very dry sometimes. But it is an essential dryness. It is intentionally dry and repetitive because it minimizes the possibility for error. And it constantly updates and innovates its step-by-step instructions as new information becomes available so that the instructions we follow are the most effective as possible.

Si ensures our success. We don't have to change what Si means, we have to change how we choose to view it. It may not always be the most exciting cognitive function, but it makes the world go round, and we need to appreciate the high Si users just as much as we do everyone else.

[rainytypology]

INTP Ti - Si Loop

Explanation on an MBTI loop. Not an expert. May change later.

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Loops in MBTI occurs when a type begins to cycle between their dominant and tertiary function, completely ignoring the auxiliary and inferior. This is mainly caused from stress and can be continous until finally broken.

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INTP Function stack: Ti - Ne - Si - Fe

When in a Ti - Si loop, INTP is stuck trying to find answers from previous experiences. They can get trapped in constant rumination about the past as they try to find the answer(s) to their issue(s). However, this does more harm than good as they will start to fixate on their past mistakes. Overanalyzing the things they could and should have done will paralyze them into fear and self doubt. Can be very indecisive. Their overthinking will stump their Aux Ne from functioning properly, which can cause INTP to get trapped with certain routines and structures (even if it is not benefitting them). Without the help of Ne, a looping INTP struggles to form new ideas and perspectives. It makes it difficult for INTP to be innovative.

To escape the loop, an INTP needs to learn to utilize their Ne properly again. They can try to put themselves in new opportunities that will get their Ne to function; new opportunities will hopefully get INTP to explore new ideas and concepts. Brainstorm possible solutions to get their gears going. Learn to be more accepting of their own mistakes and failures, be more self compassionate.

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MBTI Notes

[robcognitivepersonality]

ENTP: I look at different aspects that could be linked to a situation or perhaps how it would evolve. But I wouldn’t be convinced that “it could be this or could be that, what if this or what if that, what about if this is something else.” I like to speculate on the results, except when it comes to my personal stuff like money and health. For these, I wouldn’t speculate and would prefer something stable.

I notice that I would suggest completely unorthodox or even radical solutions to other people's problems or situations, but I don’t know if I would follow my own advice in some aspects lol

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Rob: Now *how* you approach problems, like educating, laying information out in a clear way, “what if this what if that,” suggesting radical solutions are all SiTi. So if NeFe is your skillset, SiTi is your set of instructions for how to build that harmony or that experience for others and yourself.

Si is a concrete proactive lens, it wants to see things clearly. All of the questions you ask are all essentially "Instructions unclear, can you clarify this..." There needs to be that a-ha! dot-connecting moment in your brain to get that little dopamine your Si needs. And it's a microscope, so it wants to see all of the little details and seek many perspectives even if they're a tiny bit different from each other. That proactivity is what allows you to be a step ahead.

Some ENTP have such a strong SiTi, they always have that thirst to be the one who understands the situation more than everyone else. And it's thanks to going over every a little Si angle that allows you to get into a situation without exactly knowing how something will happen (Se) but at least you have an general idea (Ne) and you wouldn't be exactly surprised. Like we never really know how a new baby born will look like, but we got an idea based on how the parents looks like. It'd be a crazy surprise if the baby didn't look like them lol

The thing about SiTi is that it's still theoretical. So yes, the math checks out, but you might've never seen it happen before. And that can be unorthodox, and it's maybe more of a suggestion then advice. But Si is curious enough to see it happen anyway.

That curious thirst can feel out of your control though, sometimes you'd be so curious and it latches onto your mind that that's the only thing you think about, and then next day it can be totally gone, or it wants you to be curious about something else.

[lunaristars]

The 8 Cognitive Functions Explained

[negato-v]

Żukin ukryty w ciemnej wilgoci gnilnej. Odbicie jego czarnego metalowego odwłoku...objawia się jednak wraz z włączeniem latarki jaka boleśnie oślepia mój wzrok, tak długo utrzymywany w aurze pogrążonej chłodną, gryzącą nocą.

Światło go razi, skrępowanie decyduje się 'sssyczeć' niczym alarm zapowiadający inwazję krwiożerczych much plagi egipskiej żądnych umoczyć się w każdej napotkanej kropli tego soczystego płynu. Od szarpiącego dźwięku własne serce zaczęło wyrywać się z piersi, wbija się w ostre twarde żebra, krew powoli rozpoczyna wrzeć do temperatury niszczącej moje marne ciało.

Żukin, spoglądając na mnie, wydawał się przypominać nasze ostatnie spotkanie kiedy łapałam go za jego równie wątłą łapkę na znak przyjaźni. Co on ma mi instynktownie do powiedzenia, powoli porusza czułkami, rejestrując bagienne mokre środowisko...kieruje je w stronę mojej gotującej się ręki.........przerwa.....wbija się w rozgrzaną skórę swoimi odnóżami, pozostawiając zadrapania, drażnienie jego kolców nasilające pieczenie, wyczuwając wewnętrzną wilgoć wbija się jeżastą gryzaczkĄ w karmazynowy żar, smak rozpływającej się metalicznej wiśni z przymieszką siarczystych zepsutych malin zebranych za późno z krzaka.....

[typologyinfo]

THE BASICS OF MBTI (from Carl Jung's personality theory - part 1)

THE FOUR LETTERS :

(E)XTROVERSION vs (I)NTROVERSION

(S)ENSING vs I(N)TUITION

(T)HINKING vs (F)EELING

(P)ERCEIVING vs (J)UDGING

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In the next post, we’re going to talk more in-depth about different categories of Intuition, Sensing, Feelings and Thinking called: Cognitive Functions.

[bob-bobb]

I'm sure this has been said before, but I really love the way Kim Rok Soo is such a vital part of who Cale is and becomes. That all the relationships and memories of the past still carry over to the interactions he has.

I feel like that doesn't happen that much in isekai. Where almost all of it is pushed aside so the protagonist can go focus on the fantasy. (Save for the usual my last life pretty sucked.tm) Where they just kinda wake up one day and just go "Sweet! Magic time!"

But there's just something off when Cale wakes up, like he already gave up on himself a long time before this. Like he was alive, but not really living. Like he's ready to go close everything out again despite being an absolute bleeding heart and failing miserably. (Because let's be honest, a bit of this guy probably died with the soos)

So when you find out about the absolute Trainwreck that is is previous life, it really is just rewarding to see him opening up again. This punk holds onto so much of his past, but it's really nice to see him walking forward too.

[turtleblogatlast]

Leo frowns at his phone.

Or more specifically, at the test on his phone.

Around him, he hears the sound of his brothers tapping their own devices, much faster than he is. Looking up just makes Leo feel worse about his own progress - or lack-thereof.

Mikey’s the fastest, speeding through the test like nobody’s business. He’d been the one to make them all do this stupid test in the first place, so it makes sense that he’s having a blast.

Raph’s slower than Mikey is, but he’s still clearly answering the questions at a steady pace. Sometimes he looks unsure, but he powers through anyway.

Donnie often looks frustrated, which relieves Leo somewhat because at least someone is struggling like him. But that “struggle” isn’t nearly as big as his own, considering that Donnie is answering about as fast as Raph is.

Leo turns his gaze back down to his own test. He’s still near the beginning, he thinks.

He’d put the same answer for the past seven questions - the middle of the road answer, neither a “yes” or a “no.” Then, whenever he does come across one that is more one direction than the other, he second guesses himself and restarts the test!

Sure, there are a few he could definitely give a yes or a no to, but…never the “strongly agree” or “strongly disagree” that the test seemed to want from him.

He eyes his twin sitting nearby, the softshell absorbed in the test. Maybe Leo should copy what Donnie put for some of these…

“DONE!” Mikey’s shout makes Leo freeze in place just as he started to lean over.

“What?” Donnie squawks, “No way you’re already finished, you must’ve been cheating!”

“It’s a personality test, Dee!” Mikey stuck his tongue out, “You can’t cheat at those!”

…

Leo settles back into his seat.

Ignoring Donnie’s mutterings about how it was “just because it’s not an academic test” that he didn’t finish first, Raph smiles encouragingly at Mikey.

“Hey, good job! So what’d you get, Mike?”

Mikey looks back down at his test, reading aloud, “Says that I got the “Campaigner”!”

“What’s that mean?” Leo asks, his phone screen going dark.

“Apparently, I’m an “enthusiastic, creative, and sociable free-spirit”.” Mikey reads, smiling at them, “You think it fits?”

“Oh, to a T, bro!” Leo laughs, giving Mikey a thumbs up, making Mikey’s smile grow larger.

Inside, Leo was feeling a lot more mixed about this. He has no idea how Mikey knew himself so well. Maybe Donnie was right and Mikey did cheat, because how could he answer those questions so easily?

Leo’s phone burns in his hand. He keeps it locked.

“Wow, that really is you.” Raph says, his eyes flitting back and forth between his own test and Mikey, “Do you think it fits?”

“I guess? It’s fun to see at least!” Mikey shrugs with a grin.

“Hold on, I think…” Raph makes a noise of satisfaction, “Okay, done!”

“Sigh, now I’m relegated to the straggler group.” Donnie grumbles, his thumbs moving faster as he tries rushing through the questions.

“Ooh, what’d you get Raph?” Mikey asks, practically bouncing in curiosity.

“Says, uh…I got something called the “Consul”?” He squints his eyes to read more, “Uh, “caring, social, and community-minded.””

“Sounds about right to me.” Leo nods. Can’t be more “community-minded” than being a hero.

“Yeah, no one’s more caring than you, Raphie!” Mikey says, moving to lean across Raph’s shell.

“You do put the community in mind, that’s for sure.” Donnie states, not looking up.

Raph chuckles, a bit embarrassed, “Aw, thanks. It’s just some test, but it feels kinda good to hear that.”

Just a test. Right.

Leo unlocks his screen.

The test stares back at him.

Right. Okay. He can do this. He can.

The screen ends up going dark again.

Frustration builds up in Leo. Was he even halfway done with the test? At this rate, soon even Donnie will-

“FINISHED.”

Leo unlocks his phone.

“What’d you get, DonTon?” Leo asks as his thumb taps the top right of the screen.

Donnie puffs up proudly, a self sure grin on his face, “I got the result “Logician” which states that I, obviously, am an “innovative inventor with a thirst for knowledge.” Truly could not have described me better, if I do say so myself.”

“It is pretty accurate.” Raph agrees with a nod, “Even calls you an inventor, so extra accurate.”

“Super accurate.” Mikey jumps in, eyes shining.

“Yes, yes, almost like reading my own character synopsis.” Donnie’s grin had not dwindled since the word “innovative” had left his mouth.

Leo just nods along, eyes on his own screen as he skims the words. “Yeah, kinda creepy how close it got. Could have called you a nerd for extra accuracy, though.”

Donnie turns to him, eyes narrowing, “Have you even finished your test? I can think of a few words that’d describe you fairly well.”

“Test-y, huh?”

Before Donnie can strangle Leo, Raph cuts in.

“Ok, ok, calm it down, guys.” He rolls his eyes before turning to Leo. “But really, you’re not done yet?”

“Leo’s taking this self reflection seriously.” Mikey sports a faux intellectual expression as he gives a jokingly serious nod. “Maybe we all should’ve taken our time.”

“Says the one who sped through the whole thing in a record time.” Donnie mutters.

Leo waves them all off, “Nah, I finished it ages ago.”

He grins when Donnie immediately shoots him a suspicious glare. “Oh, you did, did you? Then what could you have possibly gotten, Nardo?”

“I’m glad you asked!” Leo clears his throat, “Neon Leon just so happens to be an “Entertainer.””

“Ah. That confirms it. This test is meaningless.” Donnie drones.

“Hey-“

“What’s an Entertainer like?” Mikey asks with a tilt of his head, still hanging off of Raph’s shell.

“Glad you asked, Miguel!” Leo exclaims, “It says that “life is never boring” around yours truly~”

He emphasizes this “result” of his by waving his phone with said “result” on screen.

It’s just an image he found of his chosen personality result, but they don’t need to know that.

Raph nods slowly, “Well, I guess that’s true…”

“”Never boring” is one way to put it.” Donnie hums.

“You are pretty fun, Leo!” Mikey says emphatically, because he’s great like that.

“Thank you, thank you, life of the party, right here.” Leo grins, pointing both thumbs at himself.

He’s careful not to go too overboard with it, or else it might tip someone off.

Not that it…really matters. It’s just a test. Like Raph said.

As the topic around him shifts to something else, jumping away from this brief activity as fast as any other among them, Leo finds himself unlocking his phone and pulling up the test again.

Unanswered questions stare at him. He knows what answers Lou Jitsu would pick. He knows what answers Jupiter Jim would pick. Hell, he knows exactly what answers his brothers would pick.

He doesn’t know what answers Leonardo would pick.

Leo stares at the test for a second longer, before he exits the site and throws himself into the conversation happening around him.

It’s just a stupid test, nothing to worry about.

Just a test…

[yonpote]

someone replied to my ii and tit thing like what about tatinof, and i just feel like tatinof isn't on the same thematic narrative as ii and tit. tatinof is very explicitly dan and phil playing characters based on themselves, where as ii was SUPPOSEDLY dnp getting "More Real" and then tit was like. the closest on stage they have been to who they actually are. tatinof also has a sort of hero's journey story (albeit a very loose one) whereas ii and tit didnt really have that structure. theyre more like social experiments without a concrete conclusion. dnp intentionally never answer the questions they set out with at the beginning of the two shows (ii: should we give the people what they want?, tit: are we a terrible influence?) there's no fundamental question trying to be answered in tatinof, it is performed as a story of two youtubers who find themselves in a weird internet-explosion dimension and are trying to get back home. this was at a point where dnp werent questioning if they should give the people what they want, because they were going to anyway. they werent thinking about if theyre bad influences because they didnt see themselves as having a huge influence on us in that way, and their audience was still pretty young so they had yet to see how they have influenced us as fully grown adults.

i guess maybe you could think of the existential crisis moment as the questions theyre trying to answer? and the theme of feeling like theyre not in control of their actions and such, but narratively speaking it was dil controlling them. the only part that was truly controlled by the audience was the fanfiction segment, which i feel is appropriate like we're the ones who write that shit lol but even the audience submitted stuff like the support phone line and weird kid things were still somewhat in dnp's control.

[erabu-san]

What kind of Introvert is Kinich do you think?

The introvert that is shy of People or "eww people?" 🤔

HMMM I don't believe he is shy, but it doesn't mean he dislikes people

It is kind of canon that he felt sometime alone, because he had no friends 😭 i think it is more "huh. People can't deal with me. Welp... that's how it is" his straightforwardness, rational thought and impassive face clearly doesn't help him. He talks only when he thinks it is necessary ??

[robcognitivepersonality]

Here’s the old one:

Now here’s the fixed one:

Now allow the functions working together in a type.

What would be in an INTP's mind with TiSi, how do they get the foresight to get to the other side in one shot? Is FeNe like getting people to buy in?

What about an ENTJ? How do they figure in hindsight so they'll get it one shot next time? What are they asking themselves with FiNi?

[babybells123]

I’m obsessed with them already

[ahappydnp]

being a full adult during ii was so funny

like just sat there while dan and phil worked it out in the remix with the 14 year olds who were yelling at them to kiss