#kp ep 7

[forvegaspetessake]

Under-giffed moments (7/?)

*cone meme* It’s about the face journey

[freensrcha]

"If they succeed, I'll be remembered as a loser. But if the mission fails, you might not be able to come back. This is the first time in my life that I wish they successfully complete the task."

[kinnspocketporsche]

I keep coming back to this note that Porsche left.

Note: "I need to find an answer." (Episode 13)

Kinn: "I'll find every answer for you." (Episode 12)

Did Porsche pull words from Kinn as a reassurance that he does love and trust him, even though he's keeping a secret? Even though he left?

Like saying "you promised me answers, but I need you to let me find them myself."

Note: "I'll come back soon." (Episode 13)

Kinn: "No matter what happens, you must return to me." // "When you're done, return it to me. The gun, and yourself." (Episode 7)

It feels too similar to be a coincidence, doesn't it? Am I reading into translated dialogue way too much?

Is Porsche finally learning the art of subtlety, after living in Kinn's world all this time? Is it finally clicking? I love the idea that he's been picking up on Kinn's messages this whole episode and now he's sending one back.

Note: "Love you." (Episode 13)

Porsche + Kinn: "I love you." // "I love you, too." (Episode 13)

To me it feels like Porsche has been deliberately building this consistency, this reassurance for Kinn. It feels very intentional that in a three sentence note, I can find three potential callbacks to previous dialogue. Rule of three, anyone?

Telling Kinn that even though he's keeping secrets, he's not like Tawan. When Porsche said "I love you," he meant it.

[tehkatie]

You know actors can act when you feel like you’re intruding omg.

[dragonbornette]

kinnporsche // scenery → the casino

[youdontloveme-yet]

“I’ll look forward to listening to it.”

[Kinnporsche episode 7]

[tal-yadin]

Ok let's jump into it, i did promise to write an actuall post.

it got LONG so check it out under the cut: (how did it end up like this??)

First thing first, this episode was vegas' episode. No doubt about it, no debate, and bible just ate the whole thing for breakfast. I mean it okay? i was having so much fun watching him on screen, just, every scene he's in is golden.

Now that i've said it let's go into more detail. 

i’ve said before in my ep 5 post that the vegas is tailoring his persona to porsche and we see that full forsce in this episode (it helps of course that they have much more screentime together). 

In fact, the entire way the minor family operates is much, Much more suited to porsche’s nature - and i might just write out a whole saparate post about the minor family vs the main family, because the power dynamics are fucking facinating - but the point is that the informal and street thug-ish vibe the minor family has got going is much more suited to porsche than the high brow splendor of the main family

So vegas is back on his bullshit, aided by the fact that kinn is stuck in the hospital and the fact that he’s been given premission to have porsche on call until his task is done. and the dude is sure leaning into it. heavily. it’s not working as well as it did in ep 5 because porsche’s situation has changed - he’s not as isolated, he and kinn have resolved (some, maybe) of their issues and he’s in much less need of someone to lean on.

it’s an ineteresting contrast between kinn and vegas actually. kinn has authority on his side. his word is law, the only person that outranks him his his dad. when faced with someone like porsche who won’t yield to that authority, kinn first resorted to force and is slowly learning to lean into personal connection. porsche is much likelier to do what kinn wants him to do if kinn asks.

vegas has no authority, at least when it comes to the main family (and the whole point is comptetion so it’s Always a comparison) so he probabely learned that lesson much earlier. if he wants someone to do something, he has to make them want to do it.  being liked is a powerfull tool for someone like vegas, who has virtually no authority because of who he is. being straightforward isn’t an option so he manipulates instead.

so yeah vegas really shone in this episode, although i’m pretty sure nothing will ever top this hoe’s fucking smirk after he told porsche that kinn shot his ex. i honestly thought he was bullshitting completely, but according to next ep’s preview kinn’s ex IS assumed dead so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ who the fuck know. i’ve seen a bunch of theories but at this point this show is gonna make clowns out of us all.

next thing i wanna talk about is pete. petey. my best sunshine boy. you are officially on the freak scale. like we thought you were normal but the way you looked at vegas when all the other BGs were looking away and clutching their pearls? my boy was sporting a boner, i’m calling it now.

jokes aside, i’m really excited for this development. i’ll be straight (ha) with you here, i was not particulary invested in the vegaspete storyline from the get go. like i knew it was a thing in the novel, i knew it was supposed to be problematic, i was kinda dreading having to watch it go down. 

then the show did such a good job with smoothing over the more fucked up aspects of kinn and porsche’s relationship in the first half and i figured they’d find a way to handle it that wouldn’t make me want to put my head through a window. (my guess was originally that they would scrap the romantic element of it entirely and just leave it as vegas the villain and pete the victim)

but this new aspect of pete’s character opens the door to some much more interesting options (my favorite amongst those is these two ending up in some real kinky s/m relationship), like actual relationship stuff. the main concern in this case is the whole consent problem and they’ve been doing such a good job handling it so far that i’m holding out real hope.

next i’d like to talk about korn’s scene. again papa korn is feeding kinn the compan line and again he’s doing it in a really ambigiuous way. like he keeps introducing kinn to important aspects of ruling the family (and essentially the crime world in general), but he never, ever actually tells kinn what he should do.i find it a super interesting detail to their dynamic because korn is still holding absolute power, but he’s deliberately Not wielding it against kinn. 

korn Will turn kinn’s attetion to important details but he Won’t tell him how to act next and subsequently kinn get to make his own choices (even if they’re not the ones korn would have made). in ep 5, it was kinn who decided porsche’s punishment - he makes a mistake, that korn had to step in to help him fix by giving porsche the week off. 

in this episode, kinn isn’t jumping through the hoops korn is presenting him with. korn tell’s him that his feeling are affecing his judgment, but kinn still goes to porsche in the minor family house, twice. it’s an important distinction and i think it’s also part of korn’s agenda. korn’s not going to live forever, kinn’s going to have to make his own choices one day without korn at his back.

Now onto the main event.

the scene of kinn and porsche on the balcony took me through the whole fucking range of human emotion, like what the fuck XD like first it’s romantic gift giving (”the gun and yourself” lukjfhgidjfksg) then it’s the lame ass dick jokes and then tenderness and touching foreheads and forehead kiss can you please let me live???

the scene where porsche checks on kinn in the hospital and kinn gets pissy about porsche being cosy with vegas was Gold ok? like the way porsche sprawls back against the couch with this huge ass grin on his face as soon as kinn gets pissed and immediately comences being a little shit about kinn’s jealousy? like kinn my man, your boy has never backed down from a challenge in his life, he is constantly and at a moments notice ready to throw hands XD nxndbdk

and now to that final scene, hang on to your butts folk this is gonna be paragraphes and  paragraphes of me ranting and raving about apo and his fucking acting ok? ok

the beginning of That scene porsche is being damn near carried into the bathroom by vegas. please allow me to point out just how casual vegas is about the whole thing, like this bitch is selling the drunken shananegens angle even while he’s taking porsche’s shirt off, like that’s what i call commitment to the role.

then he goes in for the kill and porsche is Not Into It. like it’s instant discomfort and he gets a hand between them to push vegas off immediately, but vegas is smart, vegas is smooth, he’s got porsches practically sitting on the counter and he puts himself between his legs as soon as he leans in, which means porsche has got zero leverage to push back against him (his legs are off the floor and there’s no wall at his back to push against).

He is also, note, not very agressive about pushing when porsche resists him, like he’s definitely leaning in but he’s not pushing hard enough that porsche resorts to actual violence. he’s not restraining his hands and he’s not grabbing him, it’s all very subtle. which leaves porsche to try and curl away from the unwanted advances instead of reacting with violence.

[Gif by @parkjiminmochi ]

i’m dying, i’m dying this is where it starts beacause, the way porsche curls in, trying to turn away even while vegas has him boxed in? uhg it’s killing me. and then kinn comes in and at first porsche is smiling, he’s relieved and then kinn turns to yell at him and his face falls, there confution and upset and also geunine alarm because he can’t understand why kinn is mad at him. 

and then kinn slaps him, it’s not hard, it’s more of a pat, but there’s enough sting to it that it’s insulting and porsche flinches.

[Gif by @roqueruiz ]

and this is the first time we see fear from porsche in this scene. and apo did such a fucking marvelous job because there’s a definite difference between the expression on his face before that slap and after it, sort of a sinking realization of what kinn is thinking at this moment - what he’s accusing him of - and his mind immediately leaps to what vegas told him about kinn’s ex, to the consequences of kinn believing he’s been betrayed, even and maybe especially by someone he loves.

in ep 6, kinn said he didn’t know porsche could be afraid of something, but the truth is, porsche gets afraid - On Screen - a few time that we’ve seen. it’s just that porsche does not react to fear the way most people do. i’ve said it earlier didn’t i? no matter what kind, porsche Does Not back down from a fight. Ever. 

after that little slap? porsche pushes kinn away - kinn is agressive so porsche is agressive back. it’s what’s been giving kinn so much trouble with porsche from the get go, kinn is used to people backing down from him, porsche has never done it. not once.

he pushes back. he gets angry that kinn is accusing him, isn’t trusting him,he throw’s kinn’s ex in his face and when kinn retaliates by calling him a whore he slaps him, hard. it doesn’t matter how much it hurts and how scared he is and who’s on the other side - porsche does not back down from a fight. 

(when kinn said THAT? I was HOLLERING. I paused and i screamed and my god was that slap the least that he deserves, i can’t even with that fucking man - skfduhfa’lij)

when porsche tries to storm off and kinn grabs him he struggles. he’s angry and hurt, he’s feeling vulnerable emotionally and physically - he does not want kinn to touch him. even while kinn herds him against the mirror he turns sideways, creating space for himself, leaving himself room to move and gain leverage against the mirror if he needs it (he’s gearing up for a fight, it’s what he expects).

[GIF by @liyazaki ]

and then he tries to turn the other way, he tries to push kinn’s arm off and head towards the exit and kinn closes the distance and pins him up agains the mirror. 

and that’s like a fucking switch has been flicked right there.

[GIF by @liyazaki ]

look how he fucking curls in ok? look. (apo why are you doing this to me?) he tuck his arms close, like he’s covering himself. his shoulders go up and his head goes down and he’s trying to make himself as small as he can and I bet he holds his breath too right at that moment. FUCK ME OK?

you just know that his mind went to the night he got drugged - pinned against a glass surface with kinn at his back ? - fuck it you KNOW that that’s what he’s thinking about.

it’s definitely where my mind went, the lighting? the position? I damn near flashbacked to that scene, you can bet your ass that porsche definitely did. and that’s that fear i was talking about, because porsche is afraid. (has got a damn good reason to be afraid because this has happened before) 

and you know what? kinn thinks about it too. he does. he sees porsche curled up like this and he knows. he apologizes. he takes a step back. and even though he’s still boxing porsche in, he’s Not touching him anymore. he’s giving him space. he’s giving him choice.

in the end it’s porsche that turns around to face kinn, he let’s kinn touch him, let’s him kiss him and when porsche pushes kinn away he barely has to put any pressure behind it at all and i think it’s a lovely, lovely contrast to vegas earlier who wasn’t using force exactly, but definitely didn’t back away when porsche was trying to get him to.

you guys know what happens next and i won’t talk about it because i could barely stay sane watching it so i’ll just say this: HOT DAMN

p.s. porchay was the absolute cutest this episode and kim going snooping and finding his wik shrine was actual comedy gold.

also where was my boy tankhun? where was he? GIVE HIM TO ME

[movementsofmylife]

kinnporsche ep 7

so this was the episode that made me go from watching an ep every few days and documenting my thoughts to, watching the entire rest of the show in one sitting and staying up until 2 am. and it fully coincides with the increase of vegas and pete and consequent vegaspete for a reason.

so this shot of pete when vegas pulls out his torture briefcase. the quick once over he gives him. as if he had to rethink some of his opinions of vegas because of this.

the complete emotional flatness with which pete takes this torture in comparison to the others.

i feel like this is the scene where vegas starts becoming a whole person to pete. i genuinely think vegas's ability and desire to get in to it and not just watch the bodyguards do the dirty work changed how pete perceived him.

also like, power and kink and w.e u know. pete is definitely having a "this might awaken something in me" moment. but as we all know, when those words enter your mind it's already far too late lol.

this show is clearly doing a lot of stuff with color that i only started noticing this ep.

vegas wearing his red, and then layering the black and white of the major house's body guards and korn, colors which wipe away the personality and emotions, and then the spray of red on top. like how no matter how hard he tries his violence and the mafia blood come through.

fuck both of these men. truly the dregs.

but also the teal here is intriguing, will look out for it more.

firstly, velvet in thailand is a fucking choice.

also clearly the green is associated with the minor family, but maybe like the true minor family, so porsche? (porsche is wearing it in the final ep.)

it also seems to be related to emotionality and feelings in general maybe?

the forest where kinnporsche finally talk and learn about each other is green. and kinn is even wearing a muted green.

and interestingly porsche is wearing a blue, which i think could stand for the non-mafia world? (chay wears light blue a lot)

and then in this episode there's so many scenes where the green is a backdrop to vegas's red. in a literal way his colors are showing. (he fucking wears a leopard print jacket when he tries to force porsche to make out with him, the spots are showing idiom thing was taken to its most literal form)

this is simply another fuck this dude and his vendetta against feelings, and i'm so mad no one shot him through this entire show.

but on the theme of color theory, i think the red is the old mafia, and it's violence and familial strife. with new gen mafia being green?

and vegas is shown to be more aligned with korn's ideals of a mafia heir than kinn in this ep. vegas is constantly in red, and kinn in the light green.

over the past few episodes kinn has dressed in red a bunch of times, with noteworthy occurrences: his red suit when kp first meet, the red velvet during the auction, and also the burgundy that porsche wears when they first kiss after he finally experiences mafia life.

and i think for kinn he wears it when he's trying to truly be the heir to the major family, but i don't think it's his actual color.

i actually really like this ep with them. you can see how kim is slowly being convinced by chay's innocence and care.

back to the colors and all, i mean the green background and vegas finally not in red and it's just for pete!

it was really interesting that they showed us this madonna in green and then most of the next bar shots are from the perspective of this statue? (i do not know enough about catholicism to interpret what the madonna could mean, and would love it if someone could let me know)

and we see that vegas is looking at porsche and waiting for him to get drunk and overall being manipulative. but then we're shown pete who is reporting to kinn about what's happening and it's not the story he hears.

maybe green is a lens of truth?

and finally we finish here. porsche trapped as always but this time with a kinn asking for forgiveness and with slightly more emotional vulnerability than ever before.

it's some kind of growth at least.

so, i think at the end of this ep this is where i've landed in terms of the colors:

teal is the color of the older mafia generation

green is porsche's color, and the color of the next gen

red is vegas, and his violence and the epitome of a mafia heir

blue is kinn's color and also the color of the non-mafia world too

i think the implication being that kinn isn't made for the mafia world but vegas is, and porsche will remake it to fit himself?

and pete is there in his blacks and neutrals fading into the background until he shows up covered in vegas's red in a few episodes and things start changing for both him and vegas.

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[pastelcheckereddreams]

The way Arm jumps in so eagerly with, "Yes" when Vegas asks if he and Pete are hungry (in light of Vegas's clear desire to provide food for Pete re: later episodes) really has me thinking thoughts about Vegas and Arm.

[kinnbig]

Nodt Nutthasid as Big ↳ KinnPorsche the Series - episode 7

[forvegaspetessake]

Under-giffed moments (9/?)

Pink Sludge Pete: The Series

[freensrcha]

kim not so subtly asking chay to write him a love song

[daltoneering]

Significant colours in KinnPorsche: GOLD

the mafia

[tehkatie]

Porsche isn’t allowed to drink. It’s my new rule.

[dragonbornette]

“Since Mr. Kinn has been in recovery, other gangs are starting to rebel.”

[liyazaki]

a scene™: on rage, regret & yes- joy

I already wrote a tag novel on this but I can't get this scene out of my mind & it deserves a deep-dive, so- buckle up, kids.

the heartwrench started in earnest when Vegas stormed out of the bathroom and Kinn turned to- or on to- Porsche. look at the small but striking journey Porsche's expressions go through here:

I'm praying to the BL gods that we get some BTS commentary on this moment in particular because there's so much that could be happening with Porsche here.

maybe in his tipsiness he was just happy to have Kinn there before the reality of Kinn's rage hit him. maybe it was some of that gleeful sass in response to Kinn's jealousy that we saw earlier in the ep.

or it could have a darker meaning: is that little smile a knowing one? a confirmation of the doubts about Kinn's sincerity/intentions that have been brewing in Porsche since he found out about Tawan?

regardless, all are loaded/potentially devastating possibilities.

Kinn and Porsche then exchange slaps and verbal barbs, but it's much more than the sum of its parts. they both have so many fears, insecurities and lack of trust in each other (and themselves, too) that they've been carrying around since this intoxicating, terrifying thing between them started.

the powder keg was already loaded & ready to explode- the altercation with Vegas was just the spark that lit it.

I'm glazing over the rest of the argument to the aftermath because that's where things really get narratively delicious. I've always been a sucker for a good chase- the idea that someone not just wants but needs you to the extent that they'd pursue you- and Kinn's desperate need for Porsche to stay with him is on full, aggressive display here.

he moves so quickly after Porsche that it comes off as an instinct, not an intentional choice- a magnet chasing its opposite polarity.

there's this moment against the mirror where they continue to struggle against each other, but it couldn't be more half-hearted. the mutual stare-off is intense as they size each other up. Kinn is a brick wall of determination, but we all know Porsche could easily get out of his grip & that room if he wanted to. which way is he gonna go? the tension in this moment was palpable (all hail MileApo for acting their damn faces off).

and then, Porsche caves- literally. he curls into himself in a defensive posture against the mirror, clearly pissed about giving into this insufferable man he loves- but he does it anyway, because it's Kinn. one of the hallmarks of their relationship is how mutually weak they are for each other, despite all the reasons they "shouldn't" be.

once Kinn realizes Porsche is staying with him- at least for the moment- this deep, yawning regret paints his expression, tinged with a sort of loneliness (not surprising after the life he's led), replacing the rage. there's a different sort of tension here now- this feeling of walking the edge of a knife, knowing one wrong word or move could end the fragile sort-of peace.

Kinn's terrified in this moment: not just at the possibility of losing Porsche for good, but the past repeating itself. of how the world seems stacked against his happiness- maybe even how he himself (and what he's had to become/endure) stands in the way of it.

Kinn didn't wax poetic here because, in my opinion, he can't: he's in the midst of a total emotion onslaught, holding onto this man who's become so precious to him for dear life. but he has to say something, do something, so he goes for simplicity: I'm sorry.

we linger here for a minute, the camera purposefully moving in Kinn's direction then Porsche's, the mirror giving us a full 180 view. again, the ball is in Porsche's court. the choice is his.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Porsche is a mirror, reflecting back whatever he's given (or not given), which makes the use of mirrors here all the more chef's kiss. Porsche also needs words to go along with actions, so as small as that apology was- it's exactly what he needed to hear.

he didn't want this fight, he didn't want that kiss from Vegas- he wants to stay with Kinn, be with Kinn, in spite of everything they're up against. there are so many layers here, but it's really pretty simple: it's love. stupid, wonderful, intoxicating love.

I love how slowly Porsche turns to Kinn here- it says "I'm not fighting; I'm not fleeing." and Kinn turns with him, again moving with him like he can't help himself.

and then: Porsche fully faces Kinn and my heart stopped. this isn't an expression we've seen him wear in front of anyone: it's soft but feels like a raw nerve. naked, vulnerable- it says, "you did wrong. I'm hurting, but I'm here. now show me how you really feel. heal what you hurt." Kinn strokes his hair with a breathless sort of wonder, not quite believing his luck that he's still there.

and then, the moment that shoots this scene into the stratosphere for me: Porsche doesn't move. this constantly-joking, light-hearted gremlin of a man doesn't do a thing to ease the tension- and he's so right for that.

he lets the silence stretch on, and Kinn takes his cue: this is his moment to demonstrate his deep remorse and affection for Porsche. so- he starts worshipping him. smartly, he doesn't move in for a kiss first- this would put them on too equal footing- not until they both get caught up in the heat together.

when they do kiss, Porsche grabs Kinn's chin and gently pulls him away, and Kinn nods to him in reassurance. I like to think he's saying it's OK to surrender, that he's safe with him- and once again, that was all the reassurance Porsche needed.

damn Tumblr's 10 image limit to hell because Kinn's expressions of pure, utter joy when Porsche touches him back is just incredible. Porsche mirrors (heh) that joy right back, delighted in his ability to make this man weak in the best possible way. it’s a beautiful, sexy sliver of happiness in the middle of the unstable chaos that is their reality- and really, their relationship.

and afterwards, when Porsche grabs Kinn as tightly to him as he can, Kinn in near-tears pressed against his shoulder? Porsche's face tight with his own emotions and empathy for the man in his arms? there's this feeling of inevitability; that they couldn't pull themselves away from each other if they wanted to...come what may.

POETIC CINEMA, my friends. poetic, smutty cinema.