#lizardtail wc

[lemnnshark]

"Lizardtail is a light brown tom."

[shallowbreeze]

Lizardtail

Lizardtail is a light brown tom

[rudymentari]

The irrelevancy of your marriage will not be enough to save you from tragedy unfortunately

[songleap]

lizardtail!!! i developed a random attachment to him when i was writing my icewing novella and im glad he got to do stuff

[mist-dancing]

if your requests for traditional art are open, can it hasn't been to recent since I've last asked, can you do runningnose

I was NOT willing to ruin this peice by marker betrayal, so it’s uncoloured but lined. Baby Runningnose with his not-so-enthusiastic mother going to the med den for the first of many many times.

[olliethecat13]

Pretty sure the same thing happened with Lizardtail I SWEAR he was a woman in a vision of shadows when he helped save shadowkit

Give it up for he/she Gorseclaw everyone

[the-owl-tree]

all of this talk about rainflower and lizardstripe got me thinking... what do you think about palebird? back in le old days of the WC fandom I used to see people place palebird alongside rainflower and lizardstripe in a trio of shitty moms. thankfully sentiments seem to have changed, but the rainflower and lizardstripe discourse got me thinking about that and it made me go "yikes on trikes" because... palebird is absolutely NOT comparable to rainflower and lizardstripe AT ALL. I don't know what people in the early 2010s WC fandom were smoking when they made those comparisons LMAOOOOOOO

nah she is nowhere NEAR the level those two are on. ye old days of wc had some rancid takes so i'm not surprised she was hated lol i remember when she said "no milk" and that got touted around as a smoking gun of her being an awful parent (in the same book as sandgorse no less)

but i find myself conflicted on her tbh. On one hand, yeah, she is negligent towards Tallkit, but on the other, no one is giving her a moment to grieve about her dead kid and instead telling her to just get over it. I suppose it brings up a question I had with RiverClan in Crookedstar's Prophecy: why is no one stepping in and helping? She's clearly struggling, why not, idk, support her?? As a character, she's really interesting and unique, but her plot feels meandering and unsure of itself. I don't know what the Erin's want me to take from her character....especially when the ending has her get with a new mate and start a new life and that's treated more negatively by the narrative than Sandgorse's impact on either of them.

if i ever reread tallstar's revenge, i'll probably do a better thought pot on her. i'm kinda gauging off skims of the book and memory rn. but nah, she's nowhere near lizardtail or rainflower's level of shit lol

[growling]

Not even at the Top Three reasons I've mainly left the wc fandom and instead just do my own thing on my own tag, but incredibly frustrating nonetheless. How wc tumblr just treats people making their own fix-it aus for fun.

I don't know how it is for other fandoms, but the amount of people making their own rewrites of the wc series is.... massive. Basically every single guy in here if free to have a go at it if they want, and nobody cares, it's basically everybody here that makes up their own version of canon because the actual books are widely agreed upon to, well... *gestures at the misogyny, ableism, racism ex. the tribe, casual fatphobia, iffy at best portrayal of abuse, terrible and lazy writing in general* kinda suck.

it is kinda considered Normal in here, since it's so common, and as result, people just got... Really entitled? dare i say downright unhinged about other people's silly AUs?

One aspect that I feel is the most prevalent in this, that literally nobody talks about because of course, is the absolute condemn of anything realistic or "uncool". I remember there was that one post floating around a few months (years?) back, that basically said "[quoting. im lazy] I think the main problem with warriors rewrites is they get so bogged down in ‘trying to make sense’ or ‘make them act like actual cats’ is they forget to make things COOL AS SHIT. Like yes your bloodclan has 200 pages of foreshadowing but is it still COOL AS SHIT? (...) If your warrior cats rewrite wouldn’t result in 200 scourge animations of him being cool as shit if it was the canon material you have failed." and just for clarification I do not have anything against the person that posted it, I do not think they were being intentionally rude in any way. But. Both before it there was a problem, and after it got passed around enough I think people got the Wrong Idea. Or maybe the Right One idk man, and just found a way to describe how they felt about some of the rewrite projects going on.

The fandom is largely ranging from dismissing to outright hostile towards people making aus/rewrites/other fics where the Clans are more realistic or have more rigid naming rules, for example, ones where the cats act more like cats, many events don't really get to happen or are changed due to just not working in a more realistic universe, traditional and similiar naming systems, accurate genetics, so on so on. And I do admit there was once a problem where those people who prefer more realistic styles, especially the traditional namers, were pushing it onto others and acting really mean towards people just looking to have fun and not really pay attention to any naming rules; however, it was a long time ago, and has mostly died down. Nowadays, all the trad namers I know of are actually pretty chill, and there's very few of them. (Like, we are dying over there lmao the numbers are going down every year)

However, the fandom just, really has not moved on from those times (and I'm asking, was that really that prevalent back then? or are these people just exaggerating as always?) and continues to be just.... really bitter of tradnamers. Constantly convinced that they are "ruining their fun" just by having their own spaces somewhere. One blog of the more traditional kind that I followed got sent an ask somewhere along the lines of "oh yeah sure your fanfic is 'realistic', but would it have people make sick amvs about it in the 2010s???" and I just. Knew where they got the idea. Not even exclusive to just in traditional system, but people tend to get very weird towards people that choose to change up parts of cats' names they don't like or find unsuited for their au? for example, changing Longtail's name to Lizardtail because it's odd for a queen to just name their son longkit, or Runningwind to something different all together because they find the prefix "Running-" really silly to name a baby or because the suffix "-wind" is already the name of another Clan in canon, or changing the names of some other cats just because they don't suit them or the circumstances behind them are iffy to them. (I personally find it pretty fun, and has renamed a considerable deal of cats in my own: ex. Jayfeather -> Jaywing, Longtail -> Lizardtail, Loudbelly -> Minkbelly, Clawface -> Clawedface, Hollyleaf -> Hollythorn)

Apparently, it's "boring", or ruining other people's fun somehow despite them not needing to read them? Lyrical namers (opposite of traditional, if anybody needs an explanation: tradnaming assigns hard defined rules to the names that clan cats can have, while lyrnaming does not have any rules and is about just naming them whatever you like if you think it is cool or sounds pretty) act like they're constantly being persecuted en masse by the Mean Traditionalists that brutally force them to conform, while.... the lyrnamers are actually the overall majority, while tradnamers are now pretty uncommon and usually literally just mind their own business. It's "let people have fun" but only for the things that you personally find fun, don't even dare to like to have rules or any of these things, it's not like any people in particular actually find creating their own suffix meaning systems personally fun or anything, they just want to name the cats ugly/boring shit because they're killjoys. Yeagh

Same with people changing cats' designs to be more realistic simply because they prefer it that way, who then get vagueposted about and called "uncreative". A very small percent of artists actually know real life cat genetics, and none of them, at this current time (people were very different say, like, 10+ years ago in the fandom. things tend to change) i have ever heard of apparently forcing anybody upon these things.

Not every silly warrior cats au of some random 16 year old with like 12 followers needs to be Cool to your near impossible standards. "Let people have fun" means also letting people have fun that you personally don't understand or don't find fun personally. I get so anxious whenever I force myself to word anything and then end up forgetting half of it in the middle of it so if I didn't include something or if a sentence looks weird then that may be why. But basically, what I'm saying is: can't we just hold paws and sing masterpiece theatre iii by marianas trench for fucks sakeee can we calm the fuck down

[rosemist50]

Lakeheart and her mate Lizardtail, then their kits Softpelt, Dappletuft, Harelight, and Gorseclaw. Gorsetail of Windclan and her Riverclan mate Beechfur, then their kits Thistleheart, Sedgewhisker, and Swallowtail. Sedgewhisker and Emberfoot became mates and had Larkwing and Featherpelt. Featherpelt and Oatclaw are mates and their kits are Flutterfoot, Songleap, and Whistlepaw.

Originally posted on IG December 2021

[sp1resong]

notes re: the background riverclan cats (in the rewrite)

largely for my own reference

(i will be ignoring most family tree things from before tbc. because there are many things wrong with the family tree. there r way more half-rogue kits in this universe because that is the only possible way to fix whatever this is)

(i'm also cutting out like half of these guys because there r way too many of them)

havenpelt and sneezecloud are girlboss and malewife

minnowtail is actually somewhat smart!! she's also super stressed and overworked (everyone expected her to be named deputy after reedwhisker; she pretty much preforms all the leader/deputy duties that mothwing and frostpaw can't)

curlfeather is a pretty good mom and seems like a great cat in general, but something's just a little bit off...

fognose (or fogfeather bc i hate the -nose suffix) and splashtail r super close; they seem to believe they can only trust each other. siblings > whatever the fuck kind of soap opera/tragedy is going on. overall they seem to be coping... fairly well, which is to say they're not curled up in the corner screaming.

podlight cares abt his sister!! and his family!!! unfortunately, recent events have made him rather tense and quick to suspicion. at gatherings and any such political discussion, he is loudly in favor of giving leaders less power and individual cats more (curlfeather and several others have similar ideologies, but he's by far the loudest)

lizardtail is... well. before the whole... everything, he was responsible and clever, but now he's just kind of. vaguely paranoid and snappy.

both of gorseclaw's siblings r dead and at this point he's just waiting for himself to be next. he doesn't want to die, but like--everyone else is dying and he recognizes himself for the death fodder that he seems to be. he's coping with this remarkably well, if you consider just accepting your fate as cannon fodder 'coping well'.

shimmerpelt is, despite what her name may evoke, actually fairly aggressive and a skilled fighter. she is sarcastic and rather blunt. recent events have left her snappy and constantly on edge.

mistpaw and greypaw are close friends with frostpaw. they r coping very badly with the whole 'parents-dying-suddenly-and-oh-stars-everything's-gone-to-shit' thing but. they're alive, at the very least. they're the only ones that frostpaw told about curlfeather's last words. mistpaw is more aggressive and snappier, while greypaw is more withdrawn and nervous.

might add a few more later. i don't feel like trying to navigate the wiki any longer

(edit: cut out some guys i had in a relationship because i realized they were closely related. maybe i should've used the website family tree instead of the impossible-to-navigate wiki)

[exocynraku]

the rest of harelights family + gorseclaws mentor who i either skipped when i did the “B” cats or was added recently? cuz idk why i didnt draw her

[rookflower]

remember when the editors sent cypresspaw and wavepaw to the shadow realm

[icicle-rain]

happy 5 am take cats

[goatpaste]

🦎

[Commission info][Etsy]

[songleap]

i know its gonna be a while but i really hope that they dont make any of the riverclan cats ive projected personalities and relationships onto into complete dickheads

[iamfabiloz]

Lizardtail

Warrior of RiverClan

Thoughts on him: he has a cool name owo also he’s softpelt’s dad :3 I gave him lil fangs to spice up my designs a bit! Sorry Im not doing enough dynamic poses oof Im rushing a lot of these so me and my friends can plan out our au >:3