#lucien is confused

[achaotichuman]

This is exactly how Eltamcien goes.

Lucien- *Walking into his own home* "Elain, lovely! I'm home-"

Lucien- "..."

Tamlin- *Staring at him while sitting on a dog bed*

Lucien- "..."

Lucien- "Elain, sweetheart. Why is Tamlin sitting on a dog bed... in our house?"

Elain- *Appearing from upstairs* "Oh Lucien my love! It was awful! I found this poor thing out in the cold, all alone and shivering and scared! So, I decided to take him in."

Tamlin- "I was walking to my house, and she grabbed me."

Lucien- "..."

Tamlin- *Mouths help me*

[blackmetalsnake]

Some silly doodle again. Sheo!Dam just really missed him.

[marcus--666]

Lucien: I'm sorry, bare with me for a moment. So your idea of a harem is travelling around, killing bandits and roasting venison over a fire with them?

Ahira: Is that not the point of a harem?

Kaidan: That sounds like a good life

Talisin to Ahira: You and I are going to have a talk about what a "harem" is later, by the way

[bookishlilcorner]

Lucien whispered, shocked and confused: “… You’re my mate.”

How some people of the fandom read it:

[zenkindoflove]

Elucien and Sarion Parallels

Ever since I finished HOFAS, I can't help but think of all the parallels between Elain x Lucien and Sathia x Tharion. It's definitely not a coincidence and it makes me have big high hopes for both ships in the future of their series. So I made a big list of all the ways their characters and situations are paralleling each other. HOFAS spoilers under the cut.

This is the most obvious parallel. Both Elucien and Sarion are strangers finding themselves in a romantic entanglement. Elucien's mating bond snaps as soon as they meet each other, effectively making them strangers who are soulmates. Sarion is a marriage of convenience trope, where before ever speaking to each other, they both agree to marry so that Sathia doesn't have to marry one of the Murder Twins. Both have to essentially get to know the other one under the circumstances of having a romantic bond between them.

Tropes Are Troping.

There are tons of similarities in the actual situations that Elucien and Sarion first meet. They are both in a throne room, standing in front of an evil Fae King who is putting Elain and Sathia in a very high-stakes, traumatizing, nonconsensual situation. Before Elain is turned Fae and before the mating bond snaps, Lucien protests what is happening to her, leading to his bondage. He breaks through the bonds once she is dumped onto the floor, running to her to cover her with his jacket to preserve her modesty and provide her with his protection. As the CC crew bargain for Sathia's freedom, which is going nowhere fast, Tharion offers himself to marry Sathia so that she doesn't have to be shackled to one of the Murder Twins forever. He's effectively, like Lucien, the only one who takes the extra step to protect her.

Meet Cute.

Given the trope that Elucien and Sarion are both in, both couples effectively belong to one another right from the start. Lucien and Elain are often referred to each other as mates and Lucien's internal thoughts claim her as his mate. "Mine. You are mine, and I am yours. Mate". In Tharion's POV, he very quickly labels her as his wife and seems comfortable embracing that label for her. Literally, one of my favorite parts about these tropes is how these romantic and intimate labels now have such a distinct and powerful punch against the background of the tension behind the trope.

My Wife/My Mate

This section really deserves a bullet point list because omg, there are so many parallels in these two characters.

Lucien and Tharion

-Redheads

-Flirty rakes who like to "dally"

-Depicted as having lots of low-commitment sexual encounters before they meet their love interest.

-This part of their characters seems to be a defense mechanism to protect their hearts.

-As soon as they do find their love interest which is an instant high-commitment, they are both singularly focused on them and loyal. Feyre states Lucien no longer enjoys the company of females now that he's a "mated male" and we no longer see Tharion flirting with or hooking up with any other characters.

-They're both self-loathing, broody sad dudes who don't have high opinions of their worth. Lucien: "I am seventh son of the Autumn Court" And a whole lot of nothing. Tharion: Captain Whatever. More like Captain Worthless.

-Both jump around in their allegiances after finding themselves in abusive power struggles. For both characters currently in their respective series, they've jumped from court/queens several times, and essentially find themselves aimless and without homes, relying on the generosity of their friends to hopefully take them in and see their worth.

-Both have had someone they love tragically taken from them that greatly affects their motivations and self-loathing.

TBH there are probably a ton more but this is just what I'm thinking of on the fly.

Elain and Sathia are a shorter list but I think that is only because we know less about them than Lucien and Tharion respectively.

Elain and Sathia

-Both are a more traditional feminine archetype. They're described as beautiful, petite, with many characteristics associated with upholding tradition and fulfilling more stereotypical feminine roles.

-Both are shown to value marriage and seek it out from men with power and influence. Elain with Graysen and Sathia in the HOSAB bonus chapter when she asks about Cormac.

-Both fall madly in love with their first love. Sathia says her separation from Collin is her "Ordeal". Elain is shown to be horribly depressed and desperately runs to find Graysen the first opportunity she gets. As Sathia does once she sees Collin again.

-Both are described as having some "vapid" traits that makes people underestimate them. Elain's interests in gardening and cooking is dismissed. Sathia is described as a fairly stereotypical rich and prissy girl who Ruhn thinks only cares about her manicures and clothes.

-Speaking of that underestimation, we see at different points in their series that characters around them are often surprised when they reveal that they are actually quite intelligent, thoughtful, and brave.

-Both have a moment of "standing up" for their love interest. Elain's famous "His name is Lucien" line and Sathia standing up to the Viper Queen on behalf of Tharion when they meet her in the alley.

-There is of course a bit of a difference between them. Elain is described as being more timid. Ruhn refers to Sathia as "a predator". So they both take a bit different approaches to how they fit into their social groups.

Elucien and Sarion both enter into their romance trope with other love interests either in their pasts or currently that they're involved with. Lucien has Jesminda, who he still loves deeply and mourns her death. Elain has Graysen, who she is engaged to but her turning Fae puts a big wedge in their relationship. Sathia isn't with Collin but clearly still loves him. It's unclear how far their relationship ever got. Tharion is the only one who is emotionally "unattached" but he is very much still in the web of the River Queen's daughter and his 10-year long engagement of duress to her.

It's complicated.

In both cases, Tharion and Lucien are effectively unattached. Maybe it's complicated but they are more free and open to the bond they now have to this stranger. Elain and Sathia are not, however. Both Elain and Sathia show that they still have a deep commitment to their former loves and take similar actions by giving into their most romantic fantasies and running after their first loves to try and save the relationship. We know for Elain, that her seeking out Graysen was the nail in the coffin for them. With Sathia, her situation with Collin is left very open ended. But both are full of angst and both show that Elain and Sathia are very romantic at heart and commit deeply to the men that they love. Both Tharion and Lucien are shown to be very understanding and not possessive of Sathia and Elain. Lucien is not present for Elain seeing Graysen but he gives her space to work through her feelings and it's known he's met Graysen and doesn't think highly of him yet its implied he has left him alone. Tharion does not go after Sathia as soon as she leaves to find Collin and even hopes that should he die she'd be free to marry Collin if he can get away from the Viper Queen.

She is still in love with her ex.

Now we don't know how Elain or Sathia truly feel for Lucien and Tharion. We have neither of their POVs. We do however see Tharion and Lucien's POVs and at least based on actions alone, Lucien is clearly more interested in pursuing the mating bond than Elain is at the moment. When Sathia leaves to find Collin, Tharion spends a lot of time with her letter and its said he can't stop thinking about her as he makes his way to help Bryce with defeating the Asteri.

He falls first.

Lucien and Tharion both go to "rescue" their love interest. Lucien desperately wants to leave Spring to make sure that Elain is okay after her trauma in Hybern. He still doesn't trust the Night Court and has no idea what they're doing to her. He crosses Prythian with Feyre, going into Autumn Court where he knows they could kill him on the spot and where he experienced some of his worst traumas. But he braves it all just so he can see Elain once and make sure she's okay. He's fully aware she has a fiance and may not want anything to do with him. Tharion, after the Asteri are defeated, is seen in his last chapter of HOFAS returning back to the Meat Market where the Viper Queen holds a bounty on his head and essentially owned him as her slave. But he returns so he can make sure that Sathia is not in danger. Similar to Lucien, he's returning to the place of his trauma, risking it all with little expectations that Sathia will "choose him"

Damsels in distress.

Lucien is an emissary and he is well known for his social skills. Elain similarly has been described as being very charming and sociable, able to befriend servants or nobles. It's a common head canon amongst Eluciens that Elain and Lucien, once they start spending time together, will find themselves in a situation where they have to act as emissaries and Elain will impress Lucien with her natural skills. We see this scenario play out with Tharion and Sathia when they try to convince the River Queen to protect some of Crescent City's most vunerable members. Tharion is impressed at how skilled Sathia is when talking to the queen, able to charm and "speak her language" which is that of nobility and politeness.

Emissaries.

Prediction: I have a feeling that not only are both Elucien and Sarion end game, but I think their end game is going to be mirror images of where they started. Elucien started with a mating bond and I think they will fall in love and choose to marry each other. And the reverse, Sarion started with a marriage but I also think they will fall in love and the mating bond will snap between them. It would just be such a cute additional parallel to how SJM has set up their characters and story arcs.

[thrumugnyr]

@lucienweekofficial Day 4 - Courtier & Emissary

''Lucien was sent to Amarantha as Tamlin's emissary, to try to treat for peace between them. She refused, and...Lucien told her to go back to the shit-hole she'd crawled out of. She took his eye as punishment. Carved it out with her own fingernail, then scarred his face.''

[starsreminisce]

One of the most frustrating feelings is sensing a connection without fully understanding its significance, relying solely on a gut feeling.

In Crescent City, the number seven holds immense importance — 7 fae kings, 7 heads shaping the 7 districts with their 7 gates, 7 princes of Hel, and 7 Asteri.

ACOTAR mirrors this theme with Prythian's seven courts.

In that world, Fae children are rare, yet the Lady of Autumn bears seven sons, the seventh being Lucien.

His father, owner of seven pairs of Pegasus, recognizes a dread trove item as a warning from ancestors.

Lucien is also the 7th member of the Night Court.

[justascrollingghost]

Mate, you will not believe the day I’ve had! So I’m pure fighting for my life on this frozen lake right and you’ll never guess who shows up and saves us? Only the Night Court’s deadliest warriors! and then it gets a lil weird because the spymaster literally sweeps me off my feet and carries me through the air bridal style whilst Feyre’s hugging the damn Lord of Bloodshed practically sobbing with joy.. Then we land in this cute little city I didn’t even know fucking existed to find Feyre’s got herself a whole-ass loving family with the nightmare monster as her pal and then to top it all off I watched the most powerful and cruel high lord in history drop to his knees to comfort a crying Feyre and he’s all gentle and loving with her and I’m just stood there wondering wtf is going on and it turns out the Night Court have been lying to us the whole time and they’re actually really chill like??? Definitely didn’t see this coming fucking hell I need a nap

- Lucien after the weirdest day of his life

[lainalit]

I swear to god Lucien Antis are the weirdest Antis from the fandom

First they say lucien doesn't do enough for elain, then they say he shouldn't invade her personal space (which he doesn't unlike rhysand and cassian)

Then he is a bad friend to feyre because he didn't stand up enough for her, while there both getting abused by tamlin

Then he also shouldn't think about Elain his CANON mate, but there okay then cassian objectives nesta the whole time in acosf

He also shouldn't learn more about Elain, while simultaneously he learns not enough about her

He also shouldn't give her gifts, because that's creepy and weird, meanwhile they hate nesta for not accepting cassians gift.

He also was allegedly involved in Elain's kidnapping , but there totally okay with feyre being forced to live for one week each month in the night court for the rest of her eternal life (cause is so better to only be kidnapped one week a month)

He also shouldn't have said that Elain was his mate, while also loving rhysand because he gives feyre a choice (which he doesn't)

[arson-09]

I am doing a deep dive into the acotar series. Going into objective issues like worldbuilding, characters, themes, characters etc and dipping into a few subjective arguments. I want to cover as much as possible so PLEASE DROP THINGS THAT CONFUSE YOU OR DONT MAKE SENSE IN THE SERIES! Just whatever you would want to see in a detailed analysis of the series. I will do my best to honor any suggestions and things to keep an eye out!

(examples- Court of nightmares and its use, Characters lacking names and ages, specific retcons, etc etc anything i can use and analyze i will do it! and dont worry if you think im already gonna cover it! go ahead and comment it. im a forgetful girl)

I will be as objective as humanly possible in my main arguments relating to characters and writing. Help a girl out! Once i get my hands on the books its OVER

[quietmonologues]

A salute to everyone popping off in the comments of that Lucien/Spring Court post 🫡

[witheverynesta]

How do you write THE Lucien Vanserra and then fuck up and write Rhysand

[r-biter]

I'm sorry, ik i said i'd drop out of acotar discourse but i gotta comment — Lucien isn't white passing from ACOWAR onwards. It would make the entire situation make slightly more sense but it's just not actually what happens in canon. The narrative makes pretty intense choices (likely to make up for the dlfact that this is a retcon and therefore the previous descriptions don't imply this) to really emphasise his skin tone as seen here:

And even if we assume he's just a kind of tan white dude (which wouldn't be shocking necessarily) he explicitly has a lot of Helion's features and while Helions actual race is ambigous, we def know he doesn't have white passing facial features because when asked Charlie Bowater specifically commented on specific features (like his nose) being diff.

And like, regarding the 'Beron would kill him' thing, BERON KNOWS. Like its fully implied all the Vanserra's know and it's actively why they treat him the way they do.

And there are obvious questions posed here, like 'how did no one notice until feyre' and so on, but most of those questions STILL APPLY even if you assume Lucien is white passing, because it's an inherently poorly written shitshow of a retcon. It's a more intense version of how Rhys in acotar is so white he literally glows and then in ACOMAF has a tan after three months during the winter in the night court. People agknowledge that was incoherent and then draw him tan anyway because that's what he is for most artists.

[ninthcircleofprythian]

I had a dream last night about Lucien Vanserra, except it was Hozier as a fae. I'll be honest, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about that.

[fruitzbat]

literally what is it about lucien that has people that make his merch draw him like he's 45 and smokes two packs a day

him and molly are canonically identical — going off of that, he's an ethereal twink. either make him just as gorgeous or make molly busted you cowards

[ideasarestuckinmyhead]

Lucien with an ice-canetic angel!?!? I have had this idea in my head for a minute.

I think that would be really silly! Like Angel is sitting there wondering why Lucien is looking at them and he's like I put my body heat a little bit more up. Angel shrugs and is like oh cool anyways I want a croissant.