#lucifer comics

[elemen]

LUCIFER SEASON 1 CHALLENGE ➝ favorite therapy session

LUCIFER | 1.06 "Favorite Son" The Sandman #23 Lucifer #75

[llfreude]

The perks of having a shapeshifter partner. You never get bored.

[zal-cryptid]

Can you draw please Michael Demiurgos from ,,Lucifer” comics please?

DC characters - Michael Demiurgos

[achillesdni]

t4t but they actually kind of despise eachother

[contrael]

Working title: "Death couldn't came to the family dinner, so two-thirds of the Endless smash Lucifer face in because he _DARE_ to seduce their brother"

Based on this fanfic

[nyeakochi]

I took too long in this !! Do lucifer (comic) fans still exist… plz interact

[pablohunie1993]

maybe it's the two king sized joints i had for dinner but as much as I hate 'buddy john constantine up with a random preteen' i'd kill for a one shot where he talks to elaine belloc, pre or post yahweh-ification

[lucifersimp]

illustrations from the Lucifer comics: The Infernal Comedy / The Divine Tragedy / The Wild Hunt / The Devil at Heart - Dan Watters, Max Fiumara, Sebastian Fiumara

[darksideofthemamon]

God in Hellblazer vs Lucifer comics

I have a lot of thoughts on the angel characters from Hellblazer/Sandman/Lucifer (basically the DC/Vertigo comics era). I've had them for a long time but I guess I'm only getting to writing about it now. I have a whole essay to write about Remiel from Sandman, but for now, this should do as a warm up.

Though Hellblazer and Sandman are supposed to be in the same universe, it gets really messy with different writers and storylines going in different directions, more so when you include Sandman's spin-offs, like the Lucifer comics and its sequels.

I think one of the most glaring differences is their portrayal of God. God seems... so much nicer in the Lucifer comics (both the Mike Carey (2000) and Holly Black (2016) runs).

And I think a lot of this is caused by the themes of each story.

Hellblazer has some really strong political themes going on, so much that I can't possibly analyze them all. What I do know is that gods/angels/etc in the story tend to represent people in power and privilege. So for example, look at what John says to the archangel Gabriel in the bottom right panel: "You're the ones that make the frigging rules for us, and you don't even understand us!"

In effect, God, as well as the heavenly hosts, tend to be portrayed as jerks.

The Lucifer comics take a different approach. The story's themes tend to gear more towards family, identity, and free will. The protagonist is a really headstrong guy who wants to be free of his omniscient, omnipotent, dad. In his words (upper right panel): "This face is mine. This scar-- is mine. You may not have them. Not without my permission."

Because of the "messed up family" angle, God tends to come off as more well-meaning, but flawed.

Reading the comics together and considering them in the same universe can get jarring when God is so patient with Lucifer, but so damn harsh towards The First of the Fallen and Gabriel.

(and yes I know the Lucifer spin-offs aren't or are dubiously canon, but for this analysis, just consider them canon)

When Lucifer rebels and causes a whole war, God gives him a domain to rule over in order to give His son what he wants: to be away from Him. (top panels)

But when First of the Fallen and Gabriel even step a toe out of line? They get cast out of Heaven in painful, soul-crushing ways. (bottom panels)

And I guess it just ends up coming off as if God has some pretty massive favoritism towards Lucifer?? XD Like wow the Morningstar gets so much leeway, but FOTF and Gabriel get tossed out so fast??

In the end though, it doesn't bother me. I think the dynamic can even enhance the story in fascinating ways.

The story where these 2 portrayals get reconciled is through Gabriel's character in the Lucifer (2016) run by Holly Black.

Gabriel in this run shares a backstory with his Hellblazer self, and though the specific events leading to his Fall were only briefly touched upon, his treatment and relationship with his Father retains those themes of free will and identity, while also portraying God as harsh and tyrannical.

When a God that turned evil tries to take away his free will, Gabriel cries "Get out of my head! I was beyond your mercy before. Now I am beyond your reach."

God tossed him out so mercilessly the first time, so why does He get to control him now?

Gabriel in Hellblazer is a proud snob who views things through a very self-righteous black-and-white lens. It's revealed however, that his Father's strict rules and harsh punishments have left him anxious, guilty, and afraid (especially following an eye-opening interaction with John Constantine).

When he opens up about his problems to Julie (actually a succubus named Ellie) in Hellblazer, she says: "Look at you. What did he do to make you feel so scared and guilty?"

When it's revealed in Lucifer (2016) that Gabriel killed God, Lucifer says: "Our Father turned His back on you. And you were so angry. You've been angry for so long."

The Lucifer (2016) comic manages to show God through the lighter lens while also acknowledging his harsh treatment of Gabriel.

And we see this in Gabriel's character. In Hellblazer he's nervously looking over his own shoulder, in Lucifer (2016) he's proudly passion's fool.

And while we're talking about Gabriel, his self-actualization arc is one of the main reasons I love Holly Black's run despite its flaws!

I love how they continued his story from Hellblazer. There's a story about a guy living under his strict father's thumb who fell from grace when he was cast out, then got back up with the help of family and friends who support him. It says something that by the end of the story, he no longer works for Heaven but instead for Hell, serving under Mazikeen who acknowledged him at his lowest. He also gains his wings and heart back-- the former from Lucifer and the latter from Raphael, his brothers.

That's all I have to say XD. This was just supposed to be an observation but I ended up talking about Gabriel lol

[schattendelphin]

also some other thoughts i had while watching the second season: y'all know the fan theory that crowley was raphael before he fell? and the allusions to him being a high ranking angel in heaven before his fall this season making it actually possible?

well if it turned out that crowley really was/is raphael i think that would be funny because that would mark the second time that raphael is (one of) my favorite characters in a piece of basically bible fanfiction

"it's all raphael? - always has been" and "if i had a nickel for every time raphael the archangel was my favorite character in bible fanfiction (based on) a work by neil gaiman i'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice" memes

[aesthetic--mood]

Chloe Decker Aesthetic

[0fthelilim]

sandman is less than a month away let's go babeyyyyy

[llfreude]

Ich bin der Abgrund, die Entwürdigung, das Chaos Abgefallen von Gott, bin ich der Versucher

[zal-cryptid]

Children of Lucifer Morningstar

DC characters - Takehiko, Caliban, and Aurora

[achillesdni]

cant believe she/they lucifer has her he/they girlfriend daniel hall

[nyeakochi]

I love love love lee’s lucifer so much!! But my favorite has got to the be the nirvana and mike carey one