#mag 5

[a-mag-meme-a-day]

meme for @a-mag-a-day Day 6

MAG 5 - Thrown Away

[gristlebloom-orchid]

Rating Flesh statement givers

Keiran Woodward 15/20 he's chill, like him Lee Rentoul 16/20 Sick fuck, I like the energy (minus one because he was mean to Angela and Angela is neat) Sebastian Adekoya 20/20 MY BELOVED SEBASTIAN PLEASE BE IN TMP I WANT YOU TO BE THERE SO BADLY Christof Rudenko 1/20 I would give you a zero by how much of an asshole you are but your name rolls off the tongue nicely. Be happy you have 1. David Laylow 18/20 You're great, love your view on life, I like you very much, hope you recover well from your encounter dude Gregory Pryor 14/20 Yes, but why you gotta describe poor Hector like that Mrs.Carlisle 19.5/20 I need to know your name PLEASE YOU'RE SO BADASS (minus 0.5 is for lack of a first name Jonny give us the name of Mrs.Carlisle I need to know) Craig "Greg Goodball" Goodall 16/20 Craig "I didn't want my last thought on Earth to be lowkey racist" Goodall (this line fucking killed me)(and it's ironic.) Ross Davenport 25/20 MY BLORBO YOU NEED SOME THERAPY I'D BE WILLING TO PAY I WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY Dylan Anderson 12/20 Take care of your pigs well, love them, please. Kind of forgettable tho, not the statement, just you Mikaele Salesa 13/20 JONNY STOP WITH THE MICHEALS how do you even write his name (also I used to think he was a girl) Lucia Wright 15/20 girl you recorded a statement about meat on my birthday/pos ALSO GNOSTISM??? THAT'S FUCKING INTERESTING Jared Hopworth x2 19/20 Dude I like you but WHY DID YOU KILL YOUR BEST FRIEND if you denied your internalized homophobia you could've dated also you have 7 hands and that's canon now (Alex said it) also what do you look like for your creator and VA to go NUTS about you Bonus - Reese "Gristlebloom Orchid" [No last name] - 30/20 ANOTHER BLORBO WHY ARE MY BLORBOS DYSPHORIC BODYBUILDERS BUT I LOVE THEM (also ft him getting me a cool user) Bonus - Tyler 19/20 I just think he's meat. I mean neat.

[thatpodcastkid]

Magnus Archives Relisten 5, MAG 5 Thrown Away, Spoiler Free Version

Spoiler Free Version of my MAG 5 analysis. Let me know what you think!

Facts: Statement of Kieran Woodward, regarding items discovered in the refuse of 93 Lancaster Road, Walthamstow. Given February 23rd, 2009.

Statement Notes: There are so many posts out there comparing The Magnus Archives to the Twilight Zone because of Jon's narration and the serial creepy story format, but this episode really stands out in mind as Twilight Zone-esque. Like the Twilight Zone, some Magnus Archive episodes deal with things like childhood guilt and cult-behavior, like MAG 4. But other episodes just kind of say "Damn, isn't that fucked up? Anyway," like this one.

I do love Kieran as a character. He's just so weirdly chill and realistic about everything. There's are some statement givers who are still being tormented by fears, some who cause fear, some who are reporting on things that happened to people they know, but there's also this interesting category of people who survived because they played the game right. When the audience says "don't go in the basement" or "call the cops," they listen. Woodward gets through this statement unscathed because he moves on from the creepy dolls heads and reports the teeth, then destroys the "gift" left for him and tries to move on. Alan can't let go, Alan doesn't know the rules of the genre, that's why he doesn't make it out.

Speaking of Alan, Jonny consistently uses obsessive characters really well. There's a lot of horror media where, in real life, it would make more sense for the characters to give up on their investigations of the supernatural or to ignore it in entirely in the first place. The audience is usually (and rightfully) able to suspend reality for the sake of the story in these situations. But what's so interesting about Jonny's writing is that he explicitly states characters like Alan, like Amy Patel, can't stop themselves. It's obsession, it's all consuming, they know it's bad for them, but they just can't stop. It really adds to the audience fear because you're not the only one telling them turn back, their mind is screaming it too, but they still won't listen.

My two new favorite characters in the series are "Matt, who was raised Catholic and never shut up about it," because he is me, and David who "broke the silence by vomiting loudly into a nearby drain," because he is the most realistic horror character of all time.

Character Notes: The post-statement in this episode is just 90% Martin hate. Absolutely unhinged behavior. What if you worked at a restaurant at the end of every receipt your boss just wrote "This waiter is a goddamn loser and I hate him." Wild man Jonathan Sims everybody.

[afuturewithoutus]

something i've been thinking about, essentially non-stop, every time i think of tma is how mag5: thrown away is, to me, an almost perfect representation of & unintentional foreshadowing for the eyepocalypse. i know, i know, jonny's said himself that it was during when he was still playing around with themes for the entities, and it was initially meant to be... i think the flesh? but hear me out on this.

the eye rules the eyepocalypse, and all other fears are therefore feeding it while also feeding themselves; the eye's servants are also the catalyst for the eyepocalypse. with this (albeit common) knowledge laid out, let me explain what i mean by the claim i made:

the episode follows a bunch of garbage truck drivers, and their visits to 93 lancaster road where they find... incredibly odd garbage. it also features several themes of several entities.

the large collections of specific types of waste could be categorized with the extinction, and it being, in general, garbage could tie into the corruption (since... filth).

the bag of doll's heads easily fits under the stranger.

the bag of singed strips of the our father (also called the lord's prayer) can be a hint to the desolation, this isn't even just due to the papers being singed, to me it also feels as if the prayer's “potential” is being destroyed as it now cannot be finished, if this makes sense; the dark, mostly in relation to the people's church of the divine host and the religious themes the cult brought into the dark; and of course the flesh which has some of the strongest religious themes, particularly in relation to christianity (albeit this most often being when cannibalism is at play).

the bag of teeth may also tie in with the flesh, it manifesting in bones and all; the stranger, think “bone apple teeth” (mag34: anatomy class); the corruption, unsanitary/filth, decay (if any of the teeth are decaying/decayed, that is); the end, also manifests in bones; and potentially the extinction due to human remains, which i know the extinction is specifically “destruction of human skin/tissue,” i do think over 1000 teeth could end up falling under it.

and then there's the eye; alan parfitt became so intensely focused on 93 lancaster road, to the point where it started to be a detriment to his health and relationships. the intense desire and morbid curiousity to learn who is leaving these bags at 93 lancaster road, and potentially why they're doing it, not only lead them to keep checking what's in these bags but it also ultimately lead to his death.

and, of course, alan's heart, plated in metal, ties back to the flesh. one could also argue that keiran woodward (the statement giver) sending alan's heart to a medical incinerator could be another small manifestation of the extinction (and this time it's actually destruction of human tissue).

i think i previously said (to friends, not really here) that i've seen a connection to every entity in this episode though i'm not sure whether i was hyperbolizing or if i simply don't remember the potential ties to the hunt, slaughter, spiral, lonely, vast, buried, and web.

i guess what i'm saying, and what my thoughts are, is that mag5: thrown away is a mixed bag (badum-tssss) of entities and the eye, mostly through alan parfitt though also keiran and the others, is kind of like a catalyst to the spiral into their constantly checking what's in those bags, showing manifestions of all the entities, feeding them with their fears. it just a very unintentional amalgamation of entity manifestions that blend in a very eyepocalypse-y way? or, at least, i like interpreting it that way.

[go-to-the-mirror]

The Flesh in The Magnus Archives is associated with Christianity in MAG 5 - Thrown Away, MAG 19/20 - Confession/Desecrated Host, MAG 58 - Trail Rations, and MAG 130 - Flesh, and I think that's very interesting, because I started thinking about it yesterday, and I knew that The Flesh was associated with Christianity, but I have Thoughts.

There's a lot of stuff with Catholicism, with the whole eating the flesh and blood of Christ in MAG 19/20. There's also the Lord's prayer appearing in MAG 5 and MAG 58. And then of course the Gnostic temple in MAG 130.

There's also the whole mormon -- and probably other types of Christianity -- idea of heaven stripping away all your flaws, which is actually pretty horrifying if you think about it, and if you're not good in the eyes of God, then you won't go to heaven, and that's often just not being allocishet and other similarly fine things to be and do. And like in the season 5 Flesh episodes, a lot of it was wanting to be seen as useful and good to others at the expense of yourself, and that came with body image issues, and literally marching to your own death -- because if you don't, then you'll be not useful and dead.

I'm not entirely sure how to articulate my thoughts here, but I am thinking. Sure am thinking. Please, think with me.

(AND yes this is an @a-mag-a-day thing, bc MAG 130 got me thinking)

[closethobbit]

MAG 005

god imagine being that medical examiner, going into work one day and some cops saying "Here we need you to examine these teeth." imagine having to count 2,780 teeth that are all decaying. that medical examiner probably needed therapy

[ravenous-says-stuf]

Introducing my friend to the magnus archives and after we finished MAG 5 and her initial reaction of WTF she just went "i dont understand why he threw out all the teeth tho, you know how much he could have gotten from the tooth fairy for that?" and i fucking died

[hawkmothdiemotte]

I recently started listening to the Magnus archives and it’s pretty cool

I like the „monster of the week“ vibe they’ve got going

[themagnustournament]

Round Two Part Seven - Match 53

Helen's here! And still human!! But on the other hand, teeth bag... Thrown Away had 156 votes last round, nearly a 100 vote lead.

MAG 047 - The New Door | Spotify - Acast - YT | Wiki | Transcript

Statement of Helen Richardson, regarding a new door in a house she was selling.

MAG 005 - Thrown Away | Spotify - Acast - YT | Wiki | Transcript

Statement of Keiran Woodward, regarding items recovered from the refuse of 93 Lancaster Rd, Walthamstowe.

[lilies-and-laughing-gas]

3 more of the patch ideas for my jacket.

Season 1 has so many good episodes, I mean it's a no brainer that the one with Ex Altiora is. But I have a special place in my heart for the confusion of an episode that Thrown Away was/is.

perhaps clichéd but I love Lost Johns' Cave alot it's still one of only like three episodes that actually gives me the chills even relisting to it. I hate caving and Cave diving it was just a bad combo for me. It makes me happy even though the Buried don't get that much attention, it does at least still have some banger episodes.

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6

[thatpodcastkid]

Magnus Archives Relisten 5, MAG 5 Thrown Away

Trash apple teeth! Is this anything

Spoilers ahead!

Facts: Statement of Kieran Woodward, regarding items discovered in the refuse of 93 Lancaster Road, Walthamstow. Given February 23rd, 2009.

Statement Notes: There are so many posts out there comparing The Magnus Archives to the Twilight Zone because of Jon's narration and the serial creepy story format, but this episode really stands out in mind as Twilight Zone-esque. Like the Twilight Zone, some Magnus Archive episodes deal with things like childhood guilt and cult-behavior, like MAG 4. But other episodes just kind of say "Damn, isn't that fucked up? Anyway," like this one.

I do love Kieran as a character. He's just so weirdly chill and realistic about everything. There's are some statement givers who are still being tormented by the fears, some who cause fear, some who are reporting on things that happened to people they know, but there's also this interesting category of people who survived because they played the game right. When the audience says "don't go in the basement" or "call the cops," they listen. Woodward gets through this statement unscathed because he moves on from the creepy dolls heads and reports the teeth, then destroys the "gift" left for him and tries to move on. Alan can't let go, Alan doesn't know the rules of the genre, that's why he doesn't make it out.

My two new favorite characters in the series are "Matt, who was raised Catholic and never shut up about it," because he is me, and David who "broke the silence by vomiting loudly into a nearby drain," because he is the most realistic horror character of all time.

Entity Alignment: Whenever I think of this episode, I think of it as the "teeth in a bag" episode. I actually 100% forgot about the metal heart. Now, when you think of those things, it kind of sounds like a Flesh episode.

But, let's all remember our favorite bio majors and their special gift to their professor. The Stranger has a history with teeth. The description of the dolls heads is very "uncanny valley," which is the Stranger's real niche. The thing that really sells me though is Jon's last line in the statement, "All two thousand seven hundred and eighty of them were the exact same tooth." The exact same tooth, apparently from the exact same person, repeated over and over again to the point that the examiner can date them because of their differing stages of decay. You know what that sounds like to me? Someone has been practicing.

The metal heart also says Stranger to me. I know it has a little Flesh energy, but it really reminded me of the hospital episode from season 5. The way the character describes feeling like her body was not her own, that parts of her had been replaced, substituted. The metal heart as the only remanent of Alan feels like that same kind of fear. It's not his, it's not him, but it's all he's got.

Speaking of Alan, does his obsession with watching the house to the point he goes without sleep for days, isolates his friends, and is presumed dead remind you of anyone? He must be influenced by the Eye at least a little bit.

But ignoring entity alignment for a second, Jonny does consistently uses obsessive characters really well. There's a lot of horror media where, in real life, it would make more sense for the characters to give up on their investigations of the supernatural or to ignore it in entirely in the first place. The audience is usually (and rightfully) able to suspend reality for the sake of the story in these situations. But what's so interesting about Jonny's writing is that he explicitly states characters like Alan, like Amy Patel, like Jon, can't stop themselves. It's obsession, it's all consuming, they know it's bad for them, but they just can't stop. It really adds to the audience fear because you're not the only one telling them turn back, their mind is screaming it too, but they still won't listen.

Character Notes: The post-statement in this episode is just 90% Martin hate. Absolutely unhinged behavior. What if you worked at a restaurant at the end of receipts your boss just wrote "This waiter is a goddamn loser and I hate him." Wild man Jonathan Sims everybody.

[somanyfuckedupiftruebooks]

Mag 5

Despite the fact that this is, in my opinion, one of the coolest and most interesting of the standalone atatements, I'm probably not going to have a lot of insight into this one. What stood out to me the most on this relisten were the Beholding themes throughout: seeing what is supposed to be unseen, knowing things people don't want known, watching and being watched. It's cool that this has already been a major theme in two episodes so far despite the fact that we haven't had an Eye statement yet.

[a-mag-a-day]

ever since i first listened to this episode ive been hyper aware of how i bag my trash and what i throw out. my mum once gave me a bag with a small hole to bag our cat litter into and i was like. are you insane. its going to spill.

The fear of being Beheld by trash collectors and disappointing the is so real

[niroke]

Can anyone give me an explanation of mag 5? I find it interesting to hear about what it's like to work in waste disposal, but I don't entirely understand the underlying themes of the ep. Like I get it's ooo spooky happenings look at this bag of weird shit but it feels like there's something more I'm missing.

[the-magpie-archives]

MAG 5 - 'Thrown Away' - Expected failure.

In the conclusion of this episode Jon talks about Martin conducting the follow-up interview, and immediately afterwards explains how he expected it to fail. This brings up an interesting possibility.

Sometimes when we assign assumptions to people, we subconsciously adjust our behaviour towards them to make it right. It's like the concept of the self-fulfilling prophesy but placed upon another. In Jon's case, this seems to take place in the form of giving Martin tasks that will probably be useless, or likely to fail. It's easy to keep believing things about a person if they're not in a position to prove you wrong.

This would be just as harmful, if not worse for Martin himself. He already has a low self esteem, and even if you figure out that you're being guided down a path to failure its hard not to blame yourself. Martin's obviously very good at talking to people, and seeing himself unable to obtain useful information (even if nobody else would've been able to get it) would be confusing and frustrating; this, inadvertently causing him to feel the same way that Jon feels in his job.

They say that you shouldn't jump into the water to help someone who's drowning, as their instinct will be to push you down to pull themself up... Perhaps this also applies in emotional contexts.