#maybe even multiclass him hmm...
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everyone please look at my beautiful wife patroclus in bg3! hes a tiefling beast master ranger.
also ft his stupid blond elf boyfriend achilles
#im obsessed with making guys in video games#n.txt#yeah hes his guardian#im just being silly looking for inspo but im also playing bg3 again and i gotta get my multiple playthroughs in !!!#patroclus#achilles#theyre gonna have gay sex also dw it WILL happen#i also have designs for an actual dnd au for achilles but theyre not ready#hes an sea elf half deva fighter !#i cant decide if he'd be an eldritch knight or a battle master#BUT id like to see him with some magic#maybe even multiclass him hmm...#bg3
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My review of DnD: Honor Among Thieves:
Tl;dr: overall I liked it -I was side eying a lot of the dragon arc. Also, surprisingly- needed more magic. Druids are full casters, Bards are full casters, Paladins are half casters! Did Holga even rage?
Also I fully thought Simon was secretly an artificer actually, for 1/3 of the movie.
For a movie it was good fun. I enjoyed that it didn’t take itself too seriously, and the characters felt like dnd characters yet in a good way? Which is really hard to do without it becoming too campy and while I like camp not everyone does. The story was simple but fitting, because it felt like a dnd campaign. In terms of character and story it was pretty spot on. Except one thing, more bisexuality needed.
Now for the cons (aka DnD nerd nitpicks DnD movie the for #1,000,057th time)-
As a lifeline fan on DnD, both the game and the settings most especially Faerûn -I was introduced to to Faerûn when I was like 8 folkx. My dad played 3.5 and maybe even earlier additions. I have many 3.5 books and have played a little of that edition, 4th, and quite a bit of 5th. I watch so much rpg and dnd specifically actual plays and I criticize them and love them. And criticize the critics. So. Where were the classes? Where was the lore? What is best boy Xenk a Paladin of?? It doesn’t have to be a god, but tbh, imo not having gods is a fucking waste! It’s Faerûn! Faerûn is drowning in gods, sometimes literally! Throw a rock and you’ll unearth some gods bs. Was Mystra, goddess of magic and more importantly bffs/gf/child/it’s very complicated of Elminster “what if I became a woman? And enjoyed it! Again!” Aumar even mentioned? (Yea mfers I read DnD books. And wikis!) (also reminder he is Simons great-great-great(?) grandfather, so the opportunity was there)
Also, I know that Tieflings can be typical skin tones or whatever. However two things 1) why did she have elf ears? Two… damn those parents where whimps she coulda passed for human, or part elven very, very easily. Also I’m sry but total waste to make her look like tiefling Keyleth CR. Give her some weird color, even if it’s just like blue freckles or something. Next-ly , when the soldiers are chasing her I guess I could accept she rolled a nat one. Multiple times. But how did they know she was a she? And why call her a “wild shape” and not a “Druid”. Bc calling her a wild shape, like shouting “Wild shape!” While chasing her? it… it Was. A bit. Weird. Moving oon…
More egregious was the strange lack of magic, when there’s was also so much magic. Half of Simons spells are from strange little objects, which is why I thought he might be a secret artificier or maybe multiclassed. For a minute I thought he was an eldritch trickster! However that’s relatively minor -actually I was a little disappointed he wasn’t an artificer, because they are cool and I love strange little magic devices and trinkets. Which, in comparison to no one else using magic except to become trademark animals and many non trademarked ones. Why would they not want people to know that druids, and bards, AND paladins, HAVE MAGIC?!? Don’t tell me they are too low level. I saw Xenk fight! Paladin Yendar is at least level 7. At least! (Maybe 6… but 7 is already a stretch tbh.) The rest? Bards have magic at level one, as do druids. And Druid Doric the Wild Shape was at least level 5 herself thank you. So no! Rejected, they where mid ranged level at least! Where’s the magic! Hmm!?
Imho they could have solved this several ways. (You can choose whichever combination you prefer). 1. Instead of uh, Bard (looks up his name) Edgin (lol) Darvis make him a mastermind Rogue or something. 2. If not, have him do spells but when Simon points it out everyone is like “no but that’s different because it’s music magic. Duh”. 3. Same thing for Doric, “no she can’t do it because she only has nature magic. It’s different”. 4. Hilariously, make Doric also terrible at casting spells. 5. I wanted Holga to rage more. I’m sry. Fighters can do everything she did and idc. Make it look magic or something. 6. Same with Xenk. Where was the brandishing his holy symbol and doing some magic? Bc I was like “wait is he just a high level fighter? Or rogue/fighter” (Which would have been funny to me) (ok I checked. He casts a spell on his sword once. Which I missed completely. Makes no difference to my point. Eldritch knight or trickster could do similar)
So that’s my review. If you made it this far good job. Tbh, I think I just know too much about Dnd, because otherwise I quite enjoyed this movie. I kinda hope they make more of them, so the studios better fucking learn to respect their workers and negotiate.
PS: Maybe we could do without the fat jokes next time. Or ever again.
PPS: srsly they better learn to negotiate. Because we have we have other options and I can watch countless actual plays for thousands of hours. And waiting the strike out so long people are starting to lose housing and probably worse? Well, there’s plenty of creator owned projects to provide more support to instead. (TBC- I mean if you can do that anyway but, like stop giving the assholes the support and distribute those funds to the creators)
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Current play updates! I got the Explorer-mode multiclass mod, and Tae now has the first level of Cleric! (Of Eilistraee, ofc.) Also gave them longsword proficiency, so they can use Phalar Aluve. Honestly probably won't be levelling up Cleric any further, I genuinely just wanted the dialogue options.
Also gave Astarion the first level of Bard. Listen he's made for using Vicious Mockery.
Storywise, pretty sure I'm at the end of act 1! Really only got two things left - the elevator at Grymforge, or the Mountain Pass. Image-heavy below the cut!
I know that taking the elevator at Grymforge definitely leads into act 2. Not sure about the mountain pass, so I may do that first and just… see how it goes. That's where I stopped first time because it warned about me being underlevelled (I was on 4 at the time, I think); since I'm using both the EXP mod and the no party limits mod, I'm, uh, now level 8 across the board instead and now have seven level-8 characters instead of four level-4 characters… bit of a difference, haha.
As suspected, the Underdark was interesting as hell as a drow. Lots of fear from characters like the gnomes, lots of characters assuming you're Just Another Drow In Service To The Absolute, like this guy. Honestly, was pretty satisfying kicking Nere's ass.
Tae is So Grossed Out but stuck to the more important point.
I actually ended up doing the third option and got some interesting side-eyes, but it didn't end in a fight. Ended up killing them later in the fight against Nere, anyway.
The discovery that the drow in the cages were likely surface drow… as in Tae's people… oh yeah, they killed him.
Interesting responses from Astarion (not in the image, just for this part in general). He actually tended to disapprove of things like helping the enslaved gnomes? I'm kind of wondering if it's trauma-based resentment, like, "No one ever helped me, why are you going out of your way to help others?" It's still very early on in his arc here, especially since Tae isn't romancing him, and I suspect a lot of those disapprovals are like…
He still almost has this mindset of 'slaves deserve what they get, they're just slaves, they're not actual people'. Because if he acknowledges that the gnomes are people as well, then he has to acknowledge his own personhood and the two hundred years of trauma that accompanied it. With the Moonlight Towers conversation, he admits he had still been thinking like a slave, and we haven't even got there yet. A lot of the disapproval may be from Cazador's conditioning, which is genuinely depressing.
Gale's response when Tae told the duergar to free the gnomes. I goddamn love how much the characters respond to stuff autonomously, it makes them feel so much more like people, not just collections of stats.
Of course, it's not all murdering! Here is some cuteness. One of those delightful times you get both [Astarion approves] and [Karlach approves]…
The babies <3
Thanks cutiepie it's appreciated <3
Thanks to a staff that creates rain, Karlach gets smooched!!
I swear we just have super high approval as friends XD;; Actually, honestly, I suspect Tae is ace or acespec, so even when Karlach does get her engine fixed, I can see a situation where it's like... Tae is unsure about anything beyond all the cuddles and maybe some kisses, and given that Shadowheart and Lae'zel are both pretty thirsty for Karlach and they're sleeping with each other (or, uh, have at least once), Karlach can do more sexual things with them while her more romantic relationship is with Tae? Hmm!
Barcus I would die for you. We are definitely going to have to rescue the little shit (affectionate) again at some point, right.
And finally, sh-she handsome…
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What circumstances led to your Dark Urge becoming their Class/Subclass?
hmm so. severen is a ranger/paladin. i haven't actually multiclassed him into paladin yet. but i will. because i realised soon after making him that he was not the feral, amoral lizard i intended him to be and is instead pretty principled and almost fairytale-knight-like... at least when he's at his best. it's hard to hold onto your morality when you a) don't even remember who you are in the first place, and b) you have a deep, unyielding instinct to maim and kill everything in sight. it will be even harder once he finds out that he used to be Really Fucking Bad Actually! because he does not want to be. at least, his present, amnesia-ridden self doesn't want to be. :) but anyway.
oh right. the answer is i don't know. LMAO KSJDFNJK i don't know much about the dark urge's pre-tadpole backstory yet and i'm going off of like vague spoilers i've seen so i'm kind of just reserving judgment for now i guess! i feel like Ranger was probably his pre-tadpole class and maybe Paladin is what he becomes during his tadpole journey?
not to get Severance-y but i feel like pre-tadpole and tadpoled Severen are basically two different people. he certainly feels that way. so. hmmm.
Anatole was born a sorcerer so um. Birth, is the answer.
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i have been thinking about this taz class swap all fuckin day so here’s some shit i was Thinking About instead of taking my notes in lecture today
magnus takes up magic after raven’s roost; instead of taking up fighting he turns his focus towards magic as a possible alternative/different way of accomplishing the same thing and gets into adventuring that way )also that lets him have pretty much the same backstory which is cool)
i looked at wizard traditions/schools/whatever and the unearthed arcana’s school of invention seems thematically appropriate and also grants “reckless casting” at second level which is when you cast a spell you havent prepared which sounds like magnus “rushes in” burnsides to me
merle would probably be a protection fighter as well, and then at higher levels i’d give him the scout specialization, which allows him to retain sort of nature based abilities, kind of? although they’d closer to ranger in practice but WHATEVER
i think it could be interesting to say his family still follows pan, but he abandoned it to go adventuring and whatnot and then became a fighter, although im at loathe to say Thats That wrt to his narrative because it is an arc about faith so it would b interesting to rework that so it remains in the narrative even tho i dont have any specific ideas lmao
this one definitely doesn’t make sense with current backstory but taako as a light domain cleric... we love some dumb thematic bullshit. or actually city domain, which is a new unearthed arcana one, partly because it incorporates electronics which would fit with taz since as we all know, it’s not REALLY high fantasy in the way traditional dnd is, and also partly because it would give taako vehicle proficiency which is so incredibly funny to me lmao
taako’s memory of WHEN he started following his god and why exactly are more than a little fuzzy, especially since its seems out of character for him to lean on anyone, even a god, for help, but he appreciates the company, sort of, even if it’s sometimes one way conversation
#hmmmm. im Have Ideas#and i think magnus would still multiclass in rogue#there's no reason for other people to swap classes#OR IS THERE. maybe. i cant think of who else would swap#i think lup would be a cleric as well then obviously#uhhhhh we dont even know lucretia canon class so thats moot#barry is still Every Class Under The Sun#i would need to revisit how merle got parlay tho cos i think that would shift#wasnt it partly because he was a cleric? hmm. id still want to have him talk to john#taz#taz balance
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72 and 92 for romano!
ah thank you for asking!
72: In a Dungeons & Dragons game, which class would your character be?
hmm my first inclination is to say that he would be some sort of magic user, like a druid or a warlock, but i think something like a ranger might be more accurate to his personality and history...just cause his hands are most definitely calloused from all the manual labor, and i think it might be canon that he’s good at archery or something. maybe that’s veneziano, i dont remember. anyway i think ranger suits him best as a non-magic using class. anyway, i think he’d want to be a paladin, seeing as hes a lit nerd, but also he’d probably see paladins as a boring class just bc they’re tanks. he needs to be the flashiest motherfucker in the room..and the reason he’s not a magic user is that he doesn’t quite understand it in dnd- maybe the first time he played dnd ever he was a warlock and wound up getting very confused, not because he was a warlock, but because he’d never played dnd before. anyway i think he’d find magic difficult in dnd, but might like to multiclass as a magic user someday. yes veneziano is a wizard.
92: What emotion does your character evoke in others?
ah this is an interesting question. i think the details of the emotion are dependent on the person, but id say that the most common one is affectionate annoyance? like romano is so annoying. he’s the we irritating meme personified, but a lot of people cant help but like him? to quote some other person i saw while scrolling through the romano tag once, “everyone loves romano except romano.” and yeah, he is generally kind of popular. he has his brother, spain, the romantics, america, and he even gets along decently with iceland. but one of his favorite hobbies is pushing people away. i dont think he even does it on purpose, but he’s always sort of looking for an exit from a situation. it’s more of a habit these days, and he’s working on breaking it, but whenever he starts to feel content and loved and all that, he will start trying to isolate himself. because of this he’s lost and then regained a lot of friends, so by now most of them are just sort of tired of his shit. he has to be close with vene of course, seeing as they are brothers, but he sure doesn’t make it easy. someone wrote a really good fic analyzing their relationship that i would link had they not deleted their blog. anyway i think vene is sort of confused by him, because that’s his brother why wouldnt he love him? but then he doesnt seem to love vene back, and in the modern day they definitely know they love each other, but do they? and i think because of this a lot of the people around him feel like they need to be reassured that romano doesnt actually hate them. he’s trying to get better about that, but also he does in fact hate several people. ah well, self improvement starts small. anyway just as Romano Stans tm can see his positive qualities, so too do others as time wears on, though it’s a bit harder for them seeing as they have to actually be around him.
thanks for sending the ask! this was fun
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just a bunch of D&D (or really kind of pathfinder) lore questions I want answered and/or random ideas
or rather that I want to explore in a game, given that the game I DM is very infrequent and will be more so since someone’s about to have a baby I should probably just go on Facebook and be like “if I DM-ed a remote game would you play” but anyway that’s besides the point:
1. correct me if I’m wrong but it seems from the free SRD that the pathfinder system doesn’t require subclasses per se and you can just like, be a rogue? Like, subclasses (or archetypes) seem to be more of a build recommendation with specific skills and feats, rather than granting special abilities. It’s like a prefab thing vs. a bunch of modular bits in what is already a very modular system. Which, to be fair, is arguably what subclasses are in D&D 5e in a way, like a fixed selection of feats that kick in at specific times.
2. would love more lore on the effort involved in becoming a wizard. For example, Hamid in RQG is a fairly smart character who studied wizardry but it never worked for him and it turned out that he’s a sorcerer, but like, he’s trained in spellcraft and arcana and he’s intelligent, so why didn’t it work?
3. Adventurers are exceptional but let’s talk about the following possibilities
just-enough-above-average to technically be a certain class, especially for classes that don’t require much inborn specialness - hedge wizards, simple pickpockets, someone who’s kind of better at punching than most. Lots of L1 or 2 NPCs just kind of chilling out there
people who are in fact exceptional, but never really went on the adventuring or specialist path (so I’m discounting like, non-adventuring mages here as well). Someone who learned a little bit about how to harness their ki, but also while they were bumming around a temple they sort of took an oath, they got a bit of archery and wilderness training that one time, a passing entertainer thought they showed some promise... and anyway they’re like overall L5 or 6 with maybe a 13-14 each in dex, strength, charisma, and wisdom but they’ve got a level each in monk, paladin, ranger, bard, and fighter and it’s just like “oh yeah that’s Old Man Jemsin, he’s got a lot of crazy stories but he never did settle down”
people who have to hide their class for some reason as mentioned in my speculation on Ludinus. Warlocks who carry a cheap piece of shit instrument they can barely play to hide that they’re not technically a bard. Arcane archers who feverishly crammed a wilderness guide and stocked up on health potions to get a job as a ranger. Paladins who pretend they’re just a very charming knight.
people who are truly exceptional and just never had the opportunity. Some random INT 18 person who’s the village teacher but if they ever picked up an arcane tome they could become the greatest archmage in a generation. A peaceful lumberjack who would be deadly with any weapon.
class changes after traumatic brain injury or similar dramatic event. Oliver Sack’s Musicophilia has a number of case studies with people who developed a huge love for and even talent for music after dramatic accidents (one got literally struck by lightning). Imagine if you will a barbarian who suddenly no longer felt angry after a particularly brutal fight that left them unconscious, but was for the first time ever able to tap into the music of creation.
sorcerers or clerics who are just like “I know I’m special/chosen, but how about fuck this”
more accidental warlocks, but not even in a Fjord bargain-to-save-their-life way. I think I’ve mentioned this before but I have this idea for a warlock who just got like, really high in the woods and didn’t realize they stumbled into a portal to the feywild.
often sorcerers are very rare and wizards less so but consider a world where that’s flipped (maybe there was like, Genghis Khan, but a dragon, a few generations back, or there was a huge magical accident that gave everyone powers like in comic books) and so it’s shocking to find someone who actually has a solid understanding of how magic actually works, even though tons of people do it.
Because I am a big believer that multiclassing should generally require sufficiently high stats, more cases of brutally average performers and swordsmen but who have a hidden talent. Make the cleric of a god of art a painfully awkward person who never could figure out the music of creation but the deity saw them and decided this devotion deserved a reward. For narrative foil reasons I think a deeply devout worshiper of this god should also realize that they’re doing magic with their music but it sure doesn’t look like clerical magic
the cleric-paladin relationship needs to be explored far more fully than it has been. Do they get along or are the clerics like “hmm you are kind of extra my child” and the paladins are like “DON’T YOU WANT TO GO LAWFUL APESHIT”
fewer pit fights more wizard battles
way more exploration of divine vs. arcane casting in 5e and how utterly ridiculous and arbitrary the division is. I want this to be an ongoing debate between the arcane and divine caster.
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Azrel?
Woot! Fair warning, I came up with this guy on the fly for a Pathfinder game and didn’t get to play him much, so apologies in advance for vague answers.
Full Name: Azrel Gender and Sexuality: Male, bi
Pronouns: he/him Ethnicity/Species: Half-elf Birthplace and Birthdate: No specific place -I’m shit with real world geography, let alone fantasy places- but probably a small little country village where everyone knows everyone. Uh, let’s go with September 23rd. that sounds good. Guilty Pleasures: He’s got a sweet tooth, especially for candies, and also likes some harmless mischief. Phobias: Anything that even looks related to being undead. What They Would Be Famous For: Hmm... He doesn’t really like a lot of attention, so I think the most fame he’d have would be being well-known in his hometown for being really helpful in general and able to reach things on the top shelf. XD What They Would Get Arrested For: Uuhm... maybe setting fire to a building or something while learning/practicing a trick with his fire?
OC You Ship Them With: Nah. OC Most Likely To Murder Them: He’s pretty easy to get along with, honestly, but if I had to pick probably River? She can be a wrathful little shit when she wants to. Favorite Movie/Book Genre: Fairytales, believe it or not.
Least Favorite Movie/Book Cliche: Love at first sight Talents and/or Powers: He’s a Fire Sorcerer/Fighter, so he’s good in a fight -especially with chakrams- and has fire powers. He’s low-level, though, so it’s not like he’s throwing volcanoes at people. Why Someone Might Love Them: He’s loyal to folks he recognizes as allies, is fairly laid back, and has an impish streak. All good things. He loves dogs, enjoys kids, and hilariously is easy to embarrass; if you’re familiar with Amajiki Tamaki from MHA, that’s what happens. Why Someone Might Hate Them: He has a penchant for annoying nicknames. Also can’t really claim much of a moral high-ground above a lot of people. He won’t murder someone or burn a village or anything, but other than that he’s pretty open to breaking some rules/laws if the situation warrants it. Also, his laid back attitude can give others the impression that he doesn’t take things seriously. How They Change: Good question. Why You Love Them: He’s inspired by Axel from Kingdom Hearts and I was really looking forward to seeing how my first multiclass character would work out mechanically speaking. Not to mention, he was fun to play.
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