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Isekai'd As My Past Self (Sonic the Hedgehog AU Story)

Being a fan of Isekai Anime (currently watching Villainess Level 99: I May Be the Hidden Boss but I'm Not the Demon Lord), I think it was inevitable for me to come up with a story like this.

However, before I start with the actual premise of the story, I first want to explain the setting though. This story is based on the trope of the main character dying or getting executed in some way, only to reincarnate as their past self (think along the lines of 7th Time Loop: The Villainess Enjoys A Carefree Life Married To Her Worst Enemy!), but with the caveat of having all of their future self's memories.

In this case, the story's starting point would be Archie Sonic's Mobius: 25 Year Later and Mobius: 30 Years Later storyline, with the main characters featured being King Sonic and King Shadow - or rather, their past selves before the events that led into 25YL/30YL took place. Silver would also be a major character in this due to his time-travelling shenanigans.

Before I dive into the plot properly, I will leave a warning here. If you read my previous analysis in regards to this storyline, King Shadow (The Altered Future & The Altered Character) & King Shadow (The Alternate Story), you would know that I don't like 25YL/30YL at all and therefore, I'm planning on not only deconstruct it, but completely destroy it in this AU story.

So, if you are a fan of the 25YL/30YL, the King Sonic storyline or the Sonally pairing, I'm recommending you to NOT read this AU story. If you do read it regardless of my warnings, don't come crying into the comments about how much you hate it. There is a reason I have warned you at the start and I'm not pulling any punches with this one.

With that said, let's dive into this story, and if you are curious about the additional text, it is the translated lyrics of the opening song of Villaines Level 99, titled LOVE or HATE?, which I was listening to while writing the story (the links lead to the TV Version and Full Version respectively). Honestly, if this were an anime, I'd probably use that song as it's theme song.

The Future

For example, if I let my hair sway a little

Will the voice I hear be LOVE or HATE?

Do whatever you like, no matter what they say

I won't stop walking

The story starts out sometime after the Sonic Universe Issue #5-#8. Take note, Mobius: X Years Later is, going by Pre-SGW canon, a possible ''What if'' future, not the canon future of Pre-SGW canon, which means that the events leading up to it were probably different than what we saw in later parts of Pre-SGW, but the timeline itself would probably similar enough.

The main focus would be on King Sonic, who is actually quite unhappy and bored with his life as the King of Light Mobius, thinking back to his past adventures and longing for the freedom he had, which is basically the core aspect of his character.

Before anyone starts arguing about why Sonic would be unhappy with his current life, take note that he actually expressed unhappiness in canon, specifically saying how he is not fit to be King, with Sally outright dismissing his feelings on the matter. Admittedly, this was also written by Ken Penders, who has no clue how Sonic works as a character and despite raising an interesting character point, quickly drops it like a hot potato.

Still, it is the one line I 100% agree with - Sonic is not fit to be a King.

This is why this AU story exists, as I want to dive in further into Sonic's thoughts on being a King. There would even be one event where another villain appears and King Sonic springs into action, only for Sally to literally stop him in his tracks, pointing out how he has other people that can handle this (this being a callback to a similar argument they had in Issue #134, where Sally basically told Sonic that he shouldn't throw himself in danger, especially since he's her consort and that they have other people fighting for them, meaning Sonic should stay by her side and rule with her - with Sonic refusing).

This is a similar case, with the addition of Sally telling him how he's the King and that he needs to think of his family and his people, how he can't go fighting like this since he's not anymore in his prime, and so on. All of which are valid points, but go against Sonic's core character.

King Sonic would obviously want to do the smart thing and keep Sally happy, but at the same time, wonders if it's really selfish that he also wants to be free from all of his duties as the King and go back to his adventuring lifestyle. Whether he wants to admit it or not, he has come to regret becoming King in the first place, but now that he made his choice, he cannot escape it.

As King Sonic thinks about this, he learns that King Shadow is back once again to cause chaos and, with other characters being conveniently absent, he goes to confront him despite Sally's wishes. King Sonic learns that King Shadow is on the search of some Mystical McGuffin Crystal (placeholder name, think of it like the Paradox Prism from Sonic Prime) that would help him once again to assert his rule over Light Mobius (as he tried to do with Tikhaos previously).

The two end up in a battle, with the Fake King Shadow sneering at King Sonic for not standing up to him and wondering where Sonic's fighting spirit had gone. This is the last straw for King Sonic and he tackles Fake King Shadow into the Paradox Crystal (not very imaginative, but hey, better than the actual placeholder name), causing it to shatter and the two getting engulfed in a bright light before everything around them turns dark.

The Past

Unstoppable news

They'll forget it tomorrow

Today is better than yesterday

Believing leads to a big victory

Sonic awakens suddenly, standing on a stage surrounded by the royal family and the people of the Acorn Kingdom. He is in a daze, wondering what had happened, with the first thing he notices is that he is much younger, being a teenager once again, and wonders if his battle with King Shadow and the whole Light Mobius future was just a dream.

He is then suddenly addressed by Sally, who asks him to finally make their engagement official to the public, but Sonic, still confused and baffled, and unable to comprehend what had just happened, just utters the following:

''No... I need... Shadow.''

He then leaps off the stage and quickly runs off to find the Faker and get the answer in regards to what had happened.

He eventually finds Shadow, who is equally baffled by what had just happened, although he managed to get an understanding of the situation faster than Sonic, and the two get into another fight, just to take out their frustrations on each other.

During the battle, they come to the conclusion that they somehow time-traveled back into the past, awakening as their younger selves right before the events that would set up the Light Mobius story had happened. In this past, they had just a major victory against Dr. Eggman and, as part of the celebration, Sonic and Sally, who had just made up and started dating again, wanted to make their engagement once again official - at least until Sonic ran off to find Shadow.

In other words, while one could argue that they pulled a Silver, this isn't a situation where they can just change the past and travel back to their own future. Instead, they got the opportunity to relive their past while also having the memories of their future selves. In other words, they are free to do whatever they want with the knowledge they have.

As they process this realization, Sonic accuses Shadow of becoming a tyrant again, and Shadow responds how the only reason he had done that was because even after Dr. Eggman was gone, other villains attempted to take over his place as the Big Bad and Shadow was the one who dealt with them to ensure peace. Had he gone too far in his mission? He did, but he felt that there was no other option for him left. There was power vacuum and he filled it by becoming a tyrant.

Sonic also realizes that, with him being back in the past as his younger self, he also got his own wish granted. He is not King Sonic anymore and he could easily go back to the adventuring he always wanted, enjoying the second chance, the freedom he had been granted. At the same time, he feels guilty because this would mean that the future he knows might not exist anymore, and it is through his own fault, even if he doesn't know the details.

Therefore, Sonic's main inner conflict here would be that he is torn between his desire for freedom and the duty he had towards the Acorn Kingdom as the future King, while Shadow's inner conflict would be his desire to protect the world through any means necessary and whether he should temper his more violent and cruel tendencies.

To make things more complicated, they are suddenly joined by Silver, who came from his own future to inform them about a looming danger that is threatening to tear up reality, with Sonic and Shadow realizing that they're responsible for this and have to work together now to fix their mistake.

This would be the main premise of the story.

The Present

Sync with the rhythm

I want to be swaying

But the outsiders are noisy

Noise canceling

As the story resumes, further details are revealed about Sonic and Shadow's current situation and the true nature of the shattered Paradox Crystal.

Through Silver's investigation, they learn that he Paradox Crystal was a powerful artifact that had the power of bending time and space by granting the user their innermost desires. This explains why Sonic and Shadow have returned back to the past as their younger selves, as Sonic's desire was to have his freedom back, while Shadow's desire was to have the power to protect the world in his own way. Not only that, but the shattering of the Crystal had also tampered with Sonic's own Chaos Energy, putting him in a similar state of agelessness as Shadow, which would allow Sonic to always remain in his prime so he could protect people and keep the world safe.

The three hedgehogs also learn that, before Sonic and Shadow, there was a different Entity that sought out the Paradox Crystal, but got trapped inside it and the Crystal getting shattered released it, which resulted in the Entity gaining the power to slowly fracture reality. To fix this mess, Sonic and Shadow would need to find the pieces of the Crystal that have scattered across the world like the Dragon Balls and bring them together. The reason why it is them who have to do this is, aside from personal responsibility, they're the ones among very few people who can actually detect and handle the Crystal's power and presence.

Sonic is excited to go on this adventure, only to get startled by a furious Sally calling for him and promptly hiding behind Shadow, as he doesn't want to confront Sally's wrath, yet. Shadow, in response, just rolls his eyes, while Silver is confused about what is going on. Basically, by Sonic saying ''No'' and running off earlier, Sally believed that she got shot down again and wants to give him a ''What the hell, dude?!'' speech about Sonic not caring about her feelings or even thinking about the situation for that matter.

Sonic attempts to explain himself, but is interrupted by Shadow, who tells Sally that reality is in danger and that's why Sonic ran off. This way, he also stops Sonic from accidentally revealing that he has memories of his future self, later explaining to Sonic that he doesn't really trust Sally with using any of that information. He points out that, while she can be proactive, when he started his tyrannical rule, she literally did nothing to undermine him, meaning that she still lacks some of decisiveness on her part.

Sally figures that, if things are that bad, then they should call the Freedom Fighters for help, although she would also have to discuss the matter with the Council of Acorn, as per the current rules, they cannot really act without getting the Council's approval.

Sonic, having enough of the Acorn Kingdom's politics and bureaucracy, decides to set out on his own, with only Shadow as his companion. He refuses to be anymore under the control of the government, be it the King or the Council, making the decision to work on his own.

He is here to protect them, not to be controlled by them, and if they don't like it, he can leave. He can do more good for the world if he doesn't have to wait to be told what he is supposed to do.

While there would be people protesting against this decision, Sonic and Shadow are already off on their adventure, traveling all over the world for the Crystal Shards Sonic Unleashed-style.

They would also face several opponents who would want the Crystal Shards for themselves, like Dr. Eggman, Ixis Naugus and Geoffrey St. John, and Scourge and the Destructix (perhaps even meeting Anti-Shadow and Anti-Silver if they have to travel to Moebius).

Oh, and one more thing - the engagement with Sally is off.

The Freedom Of Choice

For example, if I trace my finger a little

Will your choice be LOVE or HATE?

Do whatever you like, make your cheeks turn red

And spitting, boy

As I had mentioned before, the main inner conflict for Sonic would be the choice he would make in shaping his own future.

The expectations from people in-universe, as well as the reader, would obviously be that Sonic follows all the steps that leads up to the Light Mobius future (e.g. marrying Sally and becoming King), as that is the selfless thing to do, something that is expected from the main hero. Set right what was done wrong and follow the path to the anticipated happy ending.

But, is that really the ending that would make Sonic happy? This is a question Shadow would ask Sonic, wondering if he would really be happy to stay at one place, figuratively shackled to the duties of a King and abandoning who he is at his core.

In this story, Sonic would ultimately refuse to give up his freedom.

He will admit that, in the previous timeline, he did it to make Sally happy, but not himself. As a matter of fact, that was something everyone expected him to do, as they were the power couple and all that stuff, and he tried not to look back on the ''What If''. For him, there was no ''What if''.

However, now that he got a second chance, he decides to be selfish and do something for himself, especially when he experiences this sense of freedom once again by travelling all over the world, meeting new people and go on adventures.

The future itself is regarded as a huge ''What If''. Sonic has already experienced a future where he is the King and he wasn't happy about it. The question is, should he continue sacrificing his own happiness for the sake of others or actually be a bit selfish for his own sake? He doesn't even know how he ended up back as his younger self, so is he even allowed to change the present and the future? Would he be the villain because of that?

After all, it is not as if he would immediately return to the supposedly set Light Mobius future even if he fixed the Paradox Crystal. He was brought back to relive his past as he sees fit and he will be stuck in his teenage body with no way to jump into the future. So, either he can live through the whole experience again or just choose a different path.

Sonic would instead use the memories of his future self to help people, preventing any bad event flags from being triggered and protecting the world his own way. These changes in the present would obviously lead to the Light Mobius future not even being a possibility by default, allowing Sonic to live without regret.

Nevertheless, it won't be an easy choice to make and Sonic would keep doubting himself, which is why he would benefit from Shadow's presence.

Speaking of which...

The reason Shadow became a tyrant in the former timeline was to protect the world, ultimately losing himself in the process and feeding into his own delusions. When he returns to the past, he would still be in the mindset that he needs to protect the world by conquering it and eliminating any opposition. Sonic insists that he would be there to stop him, as he knows what Shadow is capable of.

Suddenly, Shadow gets furious, snapping at Sonic because the latter never saw just how bad it got before Shadow took over as a tyrant. As stated before, there was a power vacuum when Dr. Eggman died, leading to many other villains trying to take over, which basically made this whole situation a world-wide Game of Thrones. Shadow had to take over, because if he didn't, things could've ended up much worse.

Shadow also admits that he understands that everyone hated him, but he had to choose the ''ends justify the means'' option because he felt that there was nothing else left. Sonic, having gained a better understanding of Shadow's motives, would stop their fight and make an offer instead. He would tell Shadow that they could protect the world together as a team, especially since they have knowledge of the future and can use that to their advantage. Shadow would accept his offer.

The part that follows would focus on Sonic and Shadow's adventures across the world, where they would from time to time be aided by their friends, but ultimately, the story would be about them working together and developing a strong bond.

Now, that bond can be purely platonic... but if you are in any way familiar with my blog, you should already know that this would spiral into a Sonadow story.

If you don't like the ship or aren't a shipper yourself, you are free to skip the next part and resume at LOVE or HATE Story.

Sonic & Shadow - The Ultimate Duo

Differences in hobbies, differences in peace of mind

Even if I confuse you

My path is shaped by

Just LOVE or HATE

I'm certain that some don't like where this is going. Why should I write down such a story if one of its conclusions is a non-canonical ship? Well, if you still think the same, then you seriously should have skipped this part.

I had stated before that the story focuses on the concept of freedom and what it means to Sonic, and in this case, this choice would split off into three different paths. The first path would be following the set story, leading into the Light Mobius Future, aka the one this story will avoid. The second path follows a simple adventure plot, albeit going against the beliefs and expectations of the reader, with everyone gaining a happy, but platonic ending, which is where non-shippers should've stopped their read.

The natural conclusion would be that the third path follows the Sonadow Ending.

As stated above, in this path, Sonic would ultimately choose freedom over duty, which would make him ending up with Sally impossible. If he marries her, he becomes King and the Light Mobius future happens, which he wants to avoid in this life. So, distancing himself from any romantic relationships that would result in him being tied down, without him having any say in it, would be the next logical step.

If Sally questions Sonic about their engagement, he would tell her something along the lines of having thought about their future together, and he cannot see it happening anymore. He knows that a future with Sally means a future without freedom, and he knows that, the way he is now, they're incompatible.

Yeah, Sally (and the Sonally shippers) wouldn't be happy about that. After all, their relationship works on the idea of ''Opposites Attract'', which is probably one of reasons why people find it appealing. No offense to those who like the ship, but the issue that I personally see here is that ''Opposites Attract'' cannot work if the two sides are too opposing to attract each other.

In other words, Pre-SGW!Sally is too devoted to her kingdom and people and has stated time and time again that she prefers to settle down once this whole deal with Eggman is over.

Sonic does not work like that.

Sure, maybe Pre-SGW!Archie!Sonic would work, but I'm certain that by now, you have noticed that I'm writing Sonic's character with his Game!Self's characteristics in mind (and some helpful suggestions from Ian Flynn in regards to how he would approach Sonic being in a relationship).

First and foremost, Sonic is free as the wind. He would not settle in one place, even if he would visit it just to see his friends. He would keep travelling. He is not fit to be King (or even a father for that matter, even if he would try his best). His strengths lie in being an adventurer and he wants to fully embrace this side of him over the course of the story.

It has been a repeated statement in the shipping community that if you want to pair Sonic up with someone, this person should be a character who wouldn't warp who Sonic is at his core, but be able to keep up with him and accept his lifestyle. I have seen a debate about Sonamy, and while I find the ship cute and agree that Amy is someone who works hard to be recognized by Sonic, she too would be someone who'd prefer to settle down rather than always be on the move.

This brings me to the only person who not only recognizes Sonic's adventurous spirit and desire for freedom, but has immense respect for him, is capable of not only keeping up with Sonic, but even get ahead of him, and even if they argue, it is clear that both have the same goal in mind, even if their methods differ.

Look, I was never interested in shipping, so if you want me to like a certain pairing, you need to really convince me that it works and that the characters have chemistry and a charm to them.

Sonadow does have that chemistry and charm that makes me go ''Yeah, these two actually work together well.''

As for Sonic and Shadow, this adventure would definitely explore just how well they click together. To note, both Sonally and Sonadow are a case of ''opposites attract'', but with Sonally, they're just too different to work properly, especially when one is chained to duty and the other desires freedom.

Meanwhile, Sonic and Shadow are literally two different sides of the same coin, both never really settling anywhere and driven by their desire to protect their world, even if their methods differ. Both easily balance each other out and even them arguing, or just talking for that matter, sounds like them flirting more often than not. The only thing that needs to be added to their existing relationship is them becoming more vulnerable and open around each other, as it doesn't change what they already have or who they already are.

By spending so much time with each other, they would eventually realize that they have something going on and decide whether they'll fully embrace it or not, especially given their initial reservations about being in a relationship.

Sonic doesn't want to be tied down by anyone or anything and fears that he might lose his freedom again, while Shadow would be anxious about getting this close to someone again due to his own fear of losing someone important to him.

However, considering who the person is they're attracted to, they would realize that there really isn't anything to fear. Shadow would not take Sonic's freedom away from him, and Sonic basically has Main Character Syndrome, so there is no chance that he would die easily, at least not without a fight, something Shadow is well aware of by now.

Not too sure about how their friends would react to them being together, although I'm certain that they would be supportive.

Well, most of them.

LOVE or HATE Story

I did not intend to go this much into detail with this AU Story (which I came up with in a day, mind you), but once I started writing down the idea, I couldn't stop. Sure, there is probably more to write, but I would then have to start the story properly to add even more details of events and interactions.

While I'm somewhat interested in writing this out, I know well that this would end up in a very long story, and I already have other projects I'm working on, so this will remain as just as an idea.

I am open to discussing this story and what else can be explored and I'm eager to hear your opinion on it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

I simply wanted to put this out in the public to hear other people's thoughts on it. If you love the story, than I'm glad to hear it. If you hate the story, well... *shrugs* I had warned you that I'm not pulling any punches.

I'm curious about your response!

#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer (Masterlist)

[ceoofdestructix]

I have a Mobius 25YL AU and...

HEEERE'S URSULA AND SGT SIMIAN'S FAMILY 🐻‍❄️💙🐵

Here are the little yetis' refs btw 🥹💚

[pico-digital-studios]

Into, Across and Beyond! Cast: The Prower Kids

Origin: Sonic Archie Comics - 25 Years Later

"Make that twenty! We're gonna help save the land in honour of our parents!" - Melody Prower

"We may not have mom or dad anymore... but I want to do them proud, no matter what. C-Could you help me?" - Skye Prower

Dimension ZONE-YL-2058, a distant future where a lot has changed for the Sonic crew. In this future 25 years on, the least I can mention was a time when Tails and Mina, both married with a family, had moved away to Downunda for some time away. While Sally and her two kids were there to see the family off, concerningly, Sonic didn't spare the time to wish his buddy the best out there.

The kids Tails and Mina had were Melody and Skye Prower respectively. Melody is quite polite and outgoing, and possesses her dad's adventurous spirit. Skye, on the other hand, is pretty shy, like his mom was, especially in large crowds, and though he's inherited some of his dad's intelligence, he lacked experience with machines and computers to put that into practice.

One day, however, tragedy struck. When Mobius was threatened with destruction due to alterations in the time-space continuum, the Tachyon Displacement Chamber was utilised to send someone back in time to get information that would help save the planet. Tails picked up that something was going to happen, so he made a device that would keep Mina and his children safe from being erased and maintain their memories from the old timeline.

But a problem with the system triggered that blasted Melody and Skye, all alone, out of the dimension to fend for themselves as it collapsed and was wiped clean. Skye was clearly heartbroken from losing his parents, and Melody was there to comfort and protect him while they tried to look for a place to be safe at.

During their trek, the two ended up getting separated in different realms, Skye in particular winding up at Dimension BL-2017 where OMT!Tails was at the time (during Cosmic Discoveries). Thanks to this, Skye ended up finding our star protagonist as he was trying to adjust to what he had become; an actual cosmic entity in some form thanks to some of Crimtake's energy mixing with his own.

After a greeting, OMT!Tails was happy to take Skye under his wing while in a bid to help the kid get back home, the two kids unaware of what became of the dimension. During their time together, Tails helped Skye improve his flight capabilities, and even taught him a bit in computing and machines. In a way, those two became like bros during their time spent together.

Skye also took a liking to Blitz!Tails and Blitz!Milla, their care towards him reminding him of his parents. He even imagined the idea of potentially getting adopted by them if they and Melody were okay with it. Once they made the necessary preparations, they headed off to scout for Melody to get the two reunited.

During their quest, Skye crossed paths with Mobiverse Tails, who reminded him a lot of 25YL!Tails from the clothes, despite being a teen version of Tails. That said, MV!Tails was pretty impressed, and even considered the possibility of naming his son Skye when he grew up with his Cream.

OMT!Tails was completely understanding of Skye's shy nature, especially around girls, even though Melody was finding it a bit annoying. Nevertheless, the two were there to stand up for Skye when anyone pointed out any of the kid's flaws. After all, nobody can be truly perfect, not even in a film fic like this one.

Due to Skye not being great with crowds for a bit, OMT!Tails started off letting him meet the Blur Gang gradually, which helped him gradually overcome his shy and timid nature around strangers. To help put trouble right, Skye and Melody allied with the crew as honorary members of the Blur Gang, even if they wouldn't join permanently.

However, the Gang soon learned the hard way that Skye and Melody's home was long gone. As it happened, LM!Sonic, STILL adamant on his ideals of canon events, let that world die in his thoughts that it was meant to happen. He soon revealed a harsh truth; HE vandalised 25YL!Tails's machine in a bid to stop him from tampering with destiny, which indirectly caused the dimension to collapse in on itself. He had also outright abandoned seeing himself as some hero, not caring anymore if lives perished, as long as "the stars aligned".

OMT!Tails, in a tranquil fury fashion, confronted him for that, demanding that he bring that world back, lest he wished literal hell to come down on his world. Tails even threatened to unleash the EXEs, including OMT, into his universe and keep them there to tear it apart if that's what the rogue blue blur appreciated, though Skye cooled him off from that. As a matter of fact, trying to force people to stick to a defined "destiny" could cause catastrophe to occur, and they witnessed it first-hand.

During that clash, OMT!Tails utilised his newfound powers to take on LM!Sonic and give him a lot of pain. However, the moment LM!Sonic had the gall to threaten Skye's life, he brought wrath down upon himself at the hands of both OMT!Tails AND Melody, who were not going to let him harm their brother (surrogate, in OMT!Tails's case). Blitz!Tails was ESPECIALLY in a bad mood seeing one of those he'd grown to care for in danger.

After all was said and done, Skye gave LM!Sonic a harsh scolding, the blur now having nothing to lose due to his actions. And when he made one final attempt to mock Skye for trying to help his newfound companions... that was when he was left to rot in one of his Eggman's old airships, never to see the light of day again. Oh, yeah. And shortly after that, Mobiverse Tails followed through on his promise to erase the fallen hero from existence, due to him expressing intent to do his misdeeds to the Mobiverse as well.

Without their home to go back to, Melody and Skye were now stumped for choices. Thankfully, OMT!Tails and OMT!Mina were more than happy to help them get new friends in the multiverse, and Blitz!Tails and Blitz!Milla welcomed them into their world for a place to live at, even seeing them as their new surrogate kids from the experience. It's definitely been a happy ending for those two after all they went through.

[gritsandbrits]

This is just one of many reasons why I hate the Preboot comics >:(

[thegirlfromstationsquare]

My Sonic OC that I made for the @madeinmobius fankid event.

Name: Makani

Species: Human

Birthplace: Spagonia

Parents: Noelani (mother) Sonic (father), Tails (uncle) Biological parents (unknown)

Personality: Described as an adventurous, playful and somewhat reckless young girl who dreams of becoming a famous hero like her father.

Abilities: Uses various toys to aid her in combat: spinning tops, slingshots, marbles, etc. The soles of her shoes can inflate giving her the ability to jump higher and farther.

Other:

- Her name means "wind" in Hawaiian

- Her belt buckle is carved out of a Ring

- Always wears her cape as a good luck charm

- Her design and skill set is meant to evoke the Ability Type game mechanic

- She is not their biological child because I feel like Sonic & Lani would be open to adoption (plus remove one er, controversial detail)

- Not canon to TGFSS but something I did for fun; I might adapt her into the story but as a separate character maybe as Lani's annoying next door neighbor

[madmans-scrawlings]

Some more redesigns from the list I've got planned. More 40 Fathom Freedom Fighters. This time the designs weren't as hard to get to as Noah the Bottlenose Dolphin. Manta is now a female named Rei and PBJ is now Parcha. Rei is more technologically inclined and Parcha is the team medic, using old remedies he learned from his family. Above them are the 25YL kids, Manic and Sonia, heavily redesigned to make them not cookie cutter copies of their parents. Nicole's console is on Manic's lap. I forgot to draw her holographic form but you get the idea. I think I'm making good progress with these. I just need to color them.

[waffletoast215]

I remember and respect Mobius 30 years later Tails (Miles now). In 25yl his scarf is brown and in 30 it's red. I just did brown because it fits his aesthetic better to me.

[gojira007]

SonSal Headcanons

So @ninjakasuga​​ tagged me the other day in a fun little SonSal Headcanons prompt, and I figger, hey, I’ve still got a bit of time to go before I start working on my “Bound For Freedom” stuff (psst, not-so-subtle reminder/self-promotion, it starts Sunday August 16th https://boundforfreedomsonsal.tumblr.com/post/623995131966668800/announcingbound-for-freedom-week-year-2 ), and it’s genuinely flattering to see something inspired by (and pretty squarely aimed at x3) me, so let’s do it to it! 8D

I won’t tag anyone else, but hey, if you see this and feel like taking a crack at it yourself?  Feel free. 

SFW Headcanons: 

Pet Names: Sonic calls her “Sal” all the time, obviously, but he eventually starts experimenting with “Nutmeg” when they’re in private.  She’s not crazy about it, but she’s at least willing to see if it grows on her.  As for Sally, she’s started trying out “Blue” on occasion; again, it’s a bit of an awkward fit initially, but Sonic does have some fondness for it.

Habits As A Couple They Develop Together: Finishing each other’s sentences absolutely.  They also start giving their hands a quick squeeze or touch every time they’re about to separate for whatever reason; nothing showy or fancy, it’s practically subconscious after a while.  

Favorite Ways Their Significant Other Shows Affection to Them: For both of them, the answer is the same: lying down together, holding each other in their arms, and just...resting.  Sometimes for a few minutes, sometimes for hours, it varies depending on their mood (Sonic especially), but even so, however long it lasts, they always end it feeling satisfied and rejuvenated.

Least Favorite Trait About The Other That Causes Occasional Friction: Obviously, Sonic is very much about Fast Action and Impulse, and Sally’s much more thoughtful and thorough, so they bump heads on that area all the time.  But perhaps more over, Sonic has trouble properly modulating his feelings and learning how to properly express them, which can sometimes be difficult for Sally to process with the necessary patience and care.  Meanwhile, Sally has the opposite problem: she plays her feelings very close to the vest, to the point where it can sometimes be a mystery what she’s feeling, which Sonic can find very frustrating.  

The Moment They Fully Realized They Were In Love With Each Other: I’ve actually talked a bit about this before, actually, but suffice it to say in both cases, there really isn’t a single moment they can look back on and say that’s when they knew for sure.  They grew up together; they’ve always cared for each other very closely.  As such, it’s a bit tricky for either of them to pin-point exactly when they realized the direction their feelings had taken them; some time after the coup, surely, and likely at least a few years after they began living in Knothole at least.  But beyond that?  Neither one is sure.

How The Marriage Proposal Goes And Who Asks First: Again, I’ve tackled this notion a bit before, but suffice it to say: Sonic’s the one who asks, and it is simultaneously an Impulse Decision made in the heat of battle (not because he’s scared, either, but simply because that’s when his brain is usually at its most active, so it’s easier for these things not only to come to mind for him, but for there to be little room between the thought entering his head and his decision to act on it) and yet weirdly indirect, less Sonic asking if Sally would like to marry him and more his asking her to imagine what their wedding will look like together with him.  It is, in other words, less his asking something from her, and more about his wanting to share something with her.

Kids?  If Yes, How Many: Arguably, they already have one, and I admit I’m actually not 100% sure if that would prime them for having another, or else kind of put them off the notion.  Still, if it was indeed the former, I’d honestly suspect they’d only have one more; given their respective responsibilities, and the fact that they both grew up pretty wary of how many resources they’d ever have at their disposal, I personally think that’s about as much as they’d be comfortable with.  Though given how these things play out, if they were to, say, have twins a la the 25YL/”Light Mobius” timelines, I think they’d manage.  Then again, part of me thinks they’d adopt, so there’s that to consider too.

I also did the NSFW Headcanons, but for personal reasons I decided not to post them publicly.  If you’re curious, feel free to DM me and I’ll share them in private. ^_^

[gainaxvel3o]

Both Locke and King Max were awful, awful dads, but Max always felt worse. Locke sucks real hard, he ruined his son’s life in ginormous inexcusable ways, but there was always a sense that on some level he was meant to be wrong (even in Pender storylines like Mobius 25YL Knuckles would admit his father made mistakes in raising him) and I felt pity when he sacrificed himself during the Enerjak Reborn storyline because he realized his mistakes too late to do anything else. One could argue there was a level tragedy in his character in spite of his ways.

Max though? From the minute he came back Max kept undermining Sally’s authority and self esteem, from keeping her out of the loop on important subjects, to forcing her to stay behind, to trying to get her married to Antonie multiple times, and when Sally disobeys him like when she refused to kill the Robians? Even after it was revealed Max was brainwashed when he made the order? Max justified it by saying it was God’s will or some such bullshit. Unlike Locke, who at least showed some regret over his actions, I don’t think Max ever apologized to his children for being such an asshole. He sucks hard.

[robotnik-mun]

Hell, didn't Ken Penders want to just outright blow up all of the SatAm universe in the concepts for his Sonic Armageddon film that, thankfully, never saw the light of day? And I super seriously doubt he even had some meaningful or interesting reason behind it, either.

He wanted to blow up Mobius. Likely for shock value. He wanted to do it with 25YL after all, and intends to do it with LSC. Which is never gonna happen. Guy really wants a story where the world blows up.

[tenebraevesper]

King Shadow (The Alternate Story)

A while ago, I did an analysis on King Shadow from the Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie) comics, King Shadow (The Altered Future & The Altered Character), which is my least favorite take on Shadow the Hedgehog in official media so far. By the end of it, I had said that I might write down my take on King Shadow if you guys want me to, and I got a positive response. So, here is my concept.

Please note that this are my thoughts and if you have your own ideas regarding how you’d write King Shadow, I’d love to hear them.

First, I want to start off with the setting. King Shadow appears in the alternate future called Light Mobius in Ian Flynn’s continuation of Ken Penders supposed “magnum opus”, called Mobius: 25 Years Later... which is probably the worst Sonic story I have ever read. Ian’s attempts at fixing the story and turning it into something good fall flat mainly because the base of the story is really weak and while it has some interesting concepts, it really falls apart in the grand scheme of things.

The gist of Penders!25YL is that absolutely nothing happens until King Sonic is sent back at time to prevent a disaster and the story ends there. Ian!25YL picks the story up where it ended, explaining how King Sonic fixed the future, but it has been altered in such way that Shadow went on conquering the world for basically no reason and crowned himself king.

From what I understood, the reason why Shadow was written as an evil king was because at the time, he was still seen as an antagonist.

Now, thinking about the setting... I feel like we don’t even need it. Honestly, when I started writing this concept, I took a look at 25YL/30YL and decided to just Ctrl+Alt+Delete the whole thing and start with a blank slate. As a matter of fact, this doesn’t even have to take place in Sonic (Archie). It only has to take place in the Sonic Universe.

Next, the biggest issue I had was with was Shadow’s motivation for conquering the world - that being that he apparently had none. Admittedly, this seemed to have been somewhat expanded in Mobius: 30 Years Later...

If I understood correctly, the world had been at a war and Shadow conquered it to bring peace, but he turned into a tyrant in the process, using brute force to keep everyone in line. I think that this isn’t a bad motive, but it still needs to be worked on.

So, with the two main issues I had with this story (there are many more, but let’s focus on just these two for now), here’s my idea how the story might go. Once again, this is just a concept idea and if you don’t like how I wrote King Shadow, you’re free to tell me how you would write him. 

Trigger Warning - It is quite brutal.

Shadow’s descent into becoming a tyrannical King would have its origins in a tragedy (yeah, I like to make the characters I love suffer), with the story starting off with Sonic and his friends being involved in another battle against Eggman. This takes place at a point where Shadow has opened up more to his friends, like Rouge, Omega, Sonic, etc. He has moved on from his past, accepting his new life and managed to forge several close bonds.

This confrontation everyone participates in is on a grand scale, think something akin to the battle during the Metal Virus Saga from Sonic IDW, and is incredibly brutal, with the consequences of it that most of the characters have been either killed or died due to their wounds. Sonic has somehow vanished during the battle, leaving Shadow as one of the few survivors. Having witnessed the demise of his closest friends, Shadow would be deeply affected by this traumatic experience, the memories of his past overwhelming him.

He had lost Maria, and just when he had come to terms with moving on and living life with his new friends, he now lost everyone he cared about. This would lead to him shutting down, or at least becoming closed off once again as he tries to handle the grief and survivor's guilt, with the only hope being that there wouldn't be any conflict because Eggman is also gone. The world is at peace now, isn’t it?

Except, that's not the case. New villains would rise and Shadow would see it as his own responsibility to go to the front lines to fight these new villains, over and over again. He is The Ultimate Lifeform, the strongest being in the universe, and he feels that he needs to soldier on and protect the world as he had not only promised to Maria, but to himself. He also refuses to get close to anyone else, because he doesn’t want to deal with another loss.

Eventually, he is called to deal with another conflict, this one being rather petty. It doesn’t matter what it is, but the point is that this is what finally breaks Shadow. He realizes that no matter how hard he works to protect the world, there would always be new conflicts, even for the most ridiculous reasons and people would continue being ungrateful for the peace he’s trying to create.

So, he decides to take matters in his own hands.

After all, Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform. He is nearly invulnerable, he is ageless, he is incredibly skilled with Chaos Energy and can use the Chaos Emeralds to turn into Super Shadow. No one can harm him and, more importantly, no one can stop him. 

In order to preserve peace, he takes it upon himself to conquer everything, crowning himself as King Shadow, and makes sure that all wars/conflicts cease. If someone attempts to cause trouble, he'll deal with them swiftly and, if they resist, brutally. Peace is finally brought back to the world.

However, one issue remains. Even though Shadow has achieved his goal of peace, he enforces it with an iron fist. People are living in fear of him and have to walk on eggshells as they believe that even the smallest argument or protest might get them thrown into prison or worse. They see him as a tyrant king, and Shadow knows that.

He knows that people fear him, but because of his immense power, no one would dare to challenge him. He doesn't pay mind to them though, as being ageless, he'll outlive them. His reign is absolute and no one can do anything about it. He is angry though, noting how ungrateful everyone is - they finally are at peace, yet they complain about it. He would, however, acknowledge that they're partially right - he knows that he's a tyrant for enforcing peace with an iron fist, but he doesn't care. It was a necessity.

Shadow is also dealing with loneliness, heavy trauma, survivor's guilt and understands that he twisted his promise to protect the world beyond recognition. He notes that he isn't doing this for Maria, but for himself. He knows that his old friends would be horrified by what he had done, by what he had become, but he saw no other way out of this situation. He knows that he is the villain here, and he has embraced that role fully during the time that had passed.

Then, some time during King Shadow's rule and him dealing with a resistance of some sort, Sonic suddenly appears seemingly out of nowhere.

Now, I haven’t really thought about what would happen to Sonic, but the general idea is that he may have experienced some kind of time travel, which flung him from the past into the King Shadow!Future. He may have even had some help from Silver.

Regardless of what happened to Sonic, he has talked to the leader of this resistance movement and learns not only about the deaths of his friends, but also about Shadow's tyrannical rule and decides to confront him. The resistance members, not really knowing what kind of person Sonic truly is, figure that Sonic is going to remove Shadow by force, possibly even kill him, and support him.

Shadow also hears about Sonic's return, and while he's shocked at first that Sonic has somehow miraculously survived the battle, he decides to prepare for their eventual encounter. Interestingly, he actually welcomes Sonic with open arms, despite being aware that Sonic wants to fight him, and when Sonic attempts to talk things out, he punches his rival.

This escalates into a battle between the two, where Shadow reveals what he had gone through and admits that he knows that he has become a tyrant and that people hate him, but he feels that he was too far gone to change. He had been hoping for that eventually someone would come and put him out of his misery - and Sonic is the only one who can do that. 

So, the two fight, going all out on each other, with the battle ending in Sonic’s victory. However, instead of destroying Shadow, who is laying on the ground, defeated, Sonic offers him his hand, much to everyone’s shock. Sonic explains that he’d rather stay with Shadow and help him deal with his trauma, and the only reason he fought the latter was because he knew they both needed to blow off some steam without putting anyone else in danger.

Sonic explains to Shadow that they both dealt with a heavy loss and he is still grieving the death of his friends, but he isn't going to lose another friend, that being Shadow himself. Sonic wants to help Shadow heal, pointing out that he and Shadow had the same goal in achieving peace, except Shadow went overboard in his grief, and he doesn't consider Shadow a lost case. 

While still in shock, Shadow accepts the proposal, grabbing Sonic’s hand and getting up, but is basically arrested by the resistance. They still want him to be punished for what he had done, and Shadow agrees to it, even if Sonic protests, because he feels Shadow has suffered already enough.

As it turns out, Shadow gets banished from his own kingdom, as they have no means of imprisoning him, and when the court debates on whether they can even do that, since they would have to trust that Shadow wouldn’t return on his own to take back his kingdom, Sonic replies that he’ll keep an eye on his the ebony hedgehog.

Once left alone, both Sonic and Shadow are aware it will take a while to heal from what had happened to both of them, but Sonic is just glad to at least have one friend by his side, suggesting they travel together from one place to another and help those in need or go on adventures. Sonic notes how regardless of everything, he will continue to protect people, with Shadow agreeing - ending the whole thing on a bittersweet, but hopeful note.

Whatever happens afterwards, they will face it together.

EDIT:  

#Isekai'd As My Past Self (Sonic the Hedgehog AU Story) - a spiritual successor to this story idea.

#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer (Masterlist)  

[greenyvertekins]

Is Mobius: 25YL your most hated story in the comics?

Nope. That “honor” goes to “House of Cards”

That said though, Mobius 25YL and 30YL are story arcs that I dislike immensely.

[zippityzap]

Ken Penders and how his misinformed view of how monarchies work ruined not only what could have been a good au story but also Sonally

*profanity warning*

Now, just to preface as you may have gathered from my current icon and some of my art, I primarily ship Sonamy, however that does not mean that I hate Sally or Sonally, as a matter of fact I really like Sally as a character, she subverts some of the typical princess tropes (which I’ll get to later) and her relationship with Sonic, especially in SatAm is really fun to watch, they bounce off of each other so well. 

Now, as you are probably aware in the Archie sonic comics there was this side story of sorts written by Ken Penders called Mobius:25 years later which portrayed our cast of freedom fighters as adults, married with kids. One of the most notable examples was how Sonic marries Sally, they have kids called Sonia and Manik (which I’ll concede is a nice little reference to Sonic Underground) and the two of them now reign as King and Queen.

But…This is not how royalty works. For you see, in no monarchy system would marrying a queen (or princess in line for the throne) make you a king, or at least it would not make you a reigning king like how sonic is portrayed in these stories. Let me explain. You know Queen Elizabeth II? Queen of Great Britain, Northern Ireland and the Commonwealth, etc? 

Well she has a husband, Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh. 

But wait, I hear you say, Prince? According to Penders logic he should be the King of England!

 Well you see, that’s not how it works, there are two types of kings/queens, regnant and consorts. Regnants are those who are born into a position of power, they inherit the throne through blood and when they become King/Queen they will rule. Sally is an example of a Queen regnant (or at least she will be when she takes the throne) as she is the daughter of King Acorn and the next in line to the throne. Some real-life examples would be Queen Elizabeth the first, Queen Victoria and the aforementioned Queen Lizzy

(apologies for using only British examples, I live in the UK so it’s what I’m familiar with)

Now getting onto Consorts, you may have heard the term used in the comics before as I believe Sonic is at one time referred to as Sally’s “royal consort” A consort is someone who marries into a royal family( whether they be a commoner or from another royal family) and in the case of a consort who marries a regnant, traditionally their role is to provide heirs for the regnant so as to continue the bloodline however they do not rule the kingdom; you can get queen consorts, real-life example the Queen Mum,

 and prince-consorts, sometimes but rarely referred to as King-consorts but I’ll get to that later. This is what Prince Philip is and what Sonic should be in M:25yl and its related stories.

Now, you might argue that Ken Penders knows what he’s doing and simply decided to call Sonic king-consort rather than prince-consort but do you really think Penders is that smart? Of fucking course not. King Sonic makes decisions regarding his kingdom and Mobius, hell, a significant part of the original M:25yl arch was Sonic’s mid-life crisis (there’s a term I thought I’d never have to type out) over the fact that he’s stuck doing diplomatic shit and running a goddamn kingdom! Sally should be doing all this shit! 

But what exactly is Sally actually doing? Playing “Desperate housewives of Mobius” with Julie-Su.

Having pool parties and sleepovers and gossiping with the other women of this timeline “oh haha can you believe our husbands”

 NO! Just fucking no! What in the flying fuck happened to my badass rebel leader Sally? Like I get that for the most part this timeline is peaceful but when shit starts going down she just lets Sonic “act first and think later” the Hedgehog deal with it?

 Hell, even in the slightly better story Mobius:30 years later when she wants to help when a crisis is happening she’s  just told to sit in the panic room and a kiss is all it takes for her to go along with this. Fuuuuucckkk.

And this is where everything starts falling apart. If for once we agree with Penders and view Mobius as a world where the royal consort can rule and has to make these important decisions, why would Sonic marry Sally?. I mean, sure for love and all that, but I cant help but think back to issue #134; yes, THAT one, “The Slap”

And look, I’m not going to go too deep into this, that’s not the focus here, and I certainly don’t think Sally is the world’s biggest bitch for this moment but… I understand why Sonic hesitated. He’s a free spirit, he likes being able to do whatever the heck he wants (within reason of course), its why there’s a hurdle with even my favourite pairing, Sonamy; Amy wants marriage and commitment, Sonic wants freedom and not being tied down, It’s the same with Sonally, Sonic never truly feels ready for adult responsibilities like that. It’s a shame, really because I genuinely enjoy the chemistry between Sonic and Sally but it just cant really work in the long term in this messed up world Penders has created.

Which is why I’ve thought up of some alternatives First: Sally decides to fuck the monarchy and becomes a full-time freedom fighter. Ok, let me explain. Pre-super Genesis Wave King  Max Acorn is an abusive dickhead (Nigel is cool though)

At one point he gives Sally the option of taking Antione as her consort, or he’ll disown her…okay what the hell. I could go into this subject more but plenty of other tumblr users have covered this so I digress. But I would’ve liked Sally to perhaps have chosen the disown option, to have chosen Sonic and the other freedom fighters. I dunno maybe some would consider it too OOC? Sally is very responsible and is the sort that does whats best for her subjects rather than herself. So here’s option two:

Mobius:25 years later done right, AKA  Sonic is an actual fucking consort. Right, imagine this, Sally as a badass queen who gets shit done. Slumber parties? Skype gossip sessions? She ain’t got time for that, bitch gotta country to run. And Sonic? Well Prince Consort Sonic’s duties are to look after the kids and occasionally smile and wave for the cameras and you know what this isn’t a demeaning thing!

 Remember Princess Diana, she was a consort and she did all sorts of charity work, going to an active mine field, shaking the hand of an AIDS victim,and a shit ton of other amazing things. Imagine the impact of the Hero of Mobius doing stuff like that, Sonic could spend time working on issues he cares about but without the pressure of running a flipping country. It would present a nice side to Sonic, and still, he’s Sonic, he can still kick ass if you need an actual non slice of life plot.

I might do stuff related to this in the future but who knows? These are my thoughts anyways.

[gritsandbrits]

Daily Reminder that King Sonic from the Archie Comics would have been Peak Power instead of that crummy old man we saw getting upstaged by Mary - I mean - Lara Su.

[thegirlfromstationsquare]

Sonic 25YL My version

Notes: Follows the games

- Sonic has gotten more powerful and stronger and bounces from town to town doing odd jobs to support himself. He also keeps in touch with his friends and still regularly fights evil while enjoying adventure

- Tails owns a workshop where he works as a contractor. He also makes inventions to help ordinary citizens and became an independent hero in his own right

- Amy owns her own boutique selling fashions from multiple zones; she still pines after Sonic and remained single or settled down with someone else*

- Among her most popular items: Piko Piko Hammers >:)

- Knuckles still guards the Master Emerald and has taken no interest in restarting the Knuckles tribe. Instead he owns a small dojo training students and maybe a future guardian once he grows too old to guard

- Cream attends university and wishes to earn a degree in Chao Biology; Cheese is still alive and has his own family and Vanilla is still a homemaker

- Shadow still works for GUN but is now the head honcho. Like Sonic he has also grown stronger and totally dropped the Vegeta 2.0 personality. He doesn't mind the position but refuses to bow to pressure, especially when people suggest he run for political office a far cry from the atrocious King Shadow characteristics

- Rouge is still a successful jewel thief and works on the side teaching future treasure hunters. One of whom gets their own little rivalry with one of Knuckles's students. She also works as an informant for GUN

- Omega still works at GUN and works with Shadow and Rouge. He is seen by the public as a person and not just a machine, and popular with kods

- Big has his own business as a merchant selling seafood and a knick knack & fishing shop. He also takes care of a frog sanctuary

- Age sadly caught up to Eggman....but other than that he is still kicking around! Word on the street is that he got sick of being upstaged by deities and went back to basics. Now he is searching for eternal youth/immortality because his own ego refuses to let him comprehend the possibility of death

- Also he has three Eggmanlands under his belt and still an active menace to the world

- Blaze is now the queen of the Sol Dimension. When the subject of marriage crops up she immediately shoots it down with the reasoning that she is comfortable single

- Silver does a good job monitoring the timelines and making sure things don't go too astray

- The Babylon Rogues have their own network of thieves living in Neo Babylon. But, they actually play Extreme Gear much more fairly, opting to rely on their own talent rather than needlessly comparing themselves to others

- Team Chaotix has gotten their business off the ground and became famous detectives. Though they moonlight jobs. Vector works as a DJ, Espio is a security guard, and Charmy sells honey treats

* I know about WoG saying Amy will always pine for Sonic, this is not about shipping

[waffletoast215]

Felt like sketching Mobius 30 Years Later Tails + Melody and Skye. Doesn't really make sense how he got with Mina, so I theorize since they didn't spend much time together as kids, they only truly "met" and got to know each other as adults.

Never liked 25YL much but I feel 30YL holds up a lot better. Adult Tails with full on pilot gear is actually a super badass concept. It kind of sucks Mina never really got any chance with Sonic so they just pushed her onto Tails because he needed a wife and they didn’t have anything else to do with her...but they’re weirdly kind of adorable together with their family in this timeline anyway. Mina is still a famous singer too, so good for her.