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Mulan 2020 sucks lol
Written and edited by yours truly
So, Mulan 2020 happened. And I am disappointed. Seriously disappointed. It is utter garbage. I would genuinely prefer it if I watched Mulan II 5 times in a row, and that's saying something.
There is so much to talk about because this has so many issues. I don't think my brain can handle a movie as bad as this for some time. It is a disgrace to the original animated movie.
(Who cares about spoilers?)
And yes, I can and I will compare it to the original movie because it is a remake. It is totally valid to see where this fell flat and where the original succeeded. I'm not saying it has to be like the original cartoon, that is stupid. As I mentioned, it's to highlight the failures of this movie.
Besides, even if we forget the fact that it is a remake, this movie is still horrible.
INTRODUCTION
Mulan 1998 is a classic. It has great visuals, an awesome soundtrack, wonderful and compelling characters, a great message and a cool plot. It's just a great movie in general. It is an adaptation of The Ballad of Mulan, a Chinese legend. Both the legend and the animated movie are about a young girl named Mulan who disguises herself as a man to take her father's place in the army to fight back against an invasion.
As big of a success Mulan was, Chinese audiences thought some things were weird. For instance, having a dragon be a comic relief character, given that dragons are highly respected in Chinese culture. So of course, Disney decided to try another shot, claiming that they wanted to be more culturally sensitive, accurate and closer to the original ballad.
Mulan 2020 is a remake of the original animated movie, and was marketed to be more "accurate to Chinese culture and the Ballad". This claim is, of course, false, because they failed in that aspect. Say what you will about the cultural inaccuracies in Mulan 1998, but at least it was a great movie. Besides, Mulan 1998 didn't pride or market itself on being culturally accurate, the way Mulan 2020 did, so there's that.
CHANGES
I don't mind some changes. And honestly, if there's one thing I appreciate, it's that it isn't a carbon copy of the original (looking at you The Lion King 2019).
Li Shang's character is divided into two characters: Commander Tung and Mulan's love interest Honghui, apparently in light of the Me-Too movement. This is a dumb reason. Disney wasn't comfortable with a superior having a relationship with a subordinate? The hell? The romance between Shang and Mulan was only insinuated at the end, when Mulan wasn't even a part of the army anymore, so there's that. Also, Mulan gave her consent, so I don't know what they’re talking about.
Mushu isn't present in the movie. I can see why though. He contributed quite a bit to the soul of the animated version but a CGI dragon would be very distracting. Also, the director said that removed him to achieve a more realistic tone.
Grandma? No grandma. Mulan has a sister though, who only exists to mess stuff up.
The Huns are replaced with the Rourans and Shan Yu is replaced with Bori Khan.
Mushu is replaced with a phoenix, who acts as an emissary for the ancestors
There are no songs, except in the end credits, which isn't a bad thing. The instrumentals of the songs in the animated one play during some scenes (I'll talk about the music, don’t worry)
CHARACTERS
The characters in this movie are so boring. Our lead character Mulan lacks the charisma her animated counterpart had. She's utterly bland, uninteresting and poorly written. In the original, she knew she wasn't physically strong and that she couldn't solve her problems with her strength, so she used her intelligence and wit. She excelled by working hard and being strong willed and determined. This Mulan is a well rounded character.
Mulan in the live action is given Chi powers (Chi is a big part of Chinese medicine, in case you didn't know). Honestly, I wouldn't be as mad at Mulan being given superpowers, had they actually done this properly! Chi isn't like midichlorians, it's something that flows through everyone. Mulan is naturally born with dumb superpowers and has to hide them because as her dad says, " Chi is for warriors, not for daughters”. There is a problem:
It has been mentioned many times that Mulan needs to hide her superpowers otherwise she will be shunned and ostracised. Then why doesn't she get more repercussions everytime she uses her powers? The worst thing that happens is little Mulan getting looks of disgust when she uses them. On other occasions, when she is now a part of the army, she uses her powers in training and she doesn't get any backlash? What the hell?? Then why even bother in the first place?
The only way for this narrative to work is if Mulan got more repercussions for using her powers.
If I were to make the line "Chi is for warriors, not daughters," work, I would make it go something like this:
*At the end of the movie when Mulan comes home*
Dad: Didn't I tell you that Chi is for warriors, not daughters?
Mulan: "I am a daughter, but I'm a warrior too."
(Yes, I know this is similar to a scene in Avatar: The Last Airbender, but this would be better, tbh. Also, watch Avatar: The Last Airbender)
Let me compare the training montages from both movies.
In the animated one, there is an absolutely AWESOME montage of Mulan training side by side with her companions, slowly gaining their trust. She climbs the pillar with both medallions by using her wit, not by brute force. This Mulan worked hard. Besides, the fact that "I'll Make A Man Out Of You" plays over this is the only thing that makes it better (banger song, thank you Donny Osmond)
In the live-action, Mulan is supposed to lift up buckets and climb on top of a mountain. There are also other training scenes, but those aren't very important. In these scenes, she succeeds with the power of CHI. WHY? Mulan here just achieves her goal because she is oh so special. She didn't work to achieve her goal at all, because she is perfect. No struggling or development here at all.
Mulan in the animated version was more concerned about saving her father. Mulan in the 2020 version is a dumb patriot who can't even do patriotism right ("I know my place. It is my duty to fight for the kingdom and protect the Emperor") How very empowering.
In short, live-action Mulan can do no wrong. She has no flaws, no personality and no charm. Everything comes to her pretty easily, because MAGIC.
Li Shang's role in the live-action is divided between Commander Tung and Mulan's love interest Honghui, as mentioned before. Both of these characters are flat, dumb and boring. Tung exists to tell Mulan to cultivate her Chi and to train these idiots (and to offer his daughter’s hand in marriage to her, unaware that Mulan isn’t actually a guy, but eh). Honghui is there to be a stupid love interest, who gives us an “I am Spartacus” moment.
The witch is by far the most interesting character. She actually has more than one side to her, has SOME kind of depth and you can even feel sorry for her. She is supposed to serve as a foil to Mulan, given that both have similar powers. In case you've forgotten (which is something I wouldn't blame you for), she's an outcast who's now working with Bori Khan. Why is she an outcast? Because of her Chi. The witch has said many times that she could kill Bori Khan in a snap, then why doesn't she kill him? Because she needs acceptance? What the hell? She decides to pull out the whole "We're the same, you and I," stupidity to Mulan, and I can see that. It's just that the writers just didn't put much thought into it. “It’s too late for me” because you saw a woman leading an army of men? Also, why does she warn Mulan that Bori Khan is coming? Unless she's playing both sides, except her motivations aren't made clear enough for this to make sense. Finally, she dies for the dumbest reason. God, it just makes me so mad. She had so much potential, but no. They just had to mess her up.
Bori Khan? MORE LIKE BORING KHAN. Not much is there. His animated counterpart Shan Yu was scary and contributed to some of the darkest moments in the movie. This guy over here is just...nothing. That's all I have to say.
Mulan's sister is only there to mess up the meeting with the Matchmaker. What a stupid change. First off in the animated version, it's Mulan who messed up, because she isn't perfect. She fails at being stereotypically feminine AND masculine, but in the live-action, she literally pulls off a Spiderman cafeteria scene, and the blame is put on the sister. In the animated movie, this scene is groundwork for Mulan wanting to prove herself and going on a hero's journey, providing depth to her character, but in the live-action, she's perfect. What is the point? (I know this section was supposed to be about the sister, but eh). The sister doesn't provide anything else to the movie, so thanks! I hate it. Moral of the story: Girls can do anything boys can, as long as they have superpowers. If you are born special like Mulan, you can be respected, whereas if you are like the sister, you have no significance and in the end, you can just fit in and be irrelevant. Congratulations!
The live action group of guys Mulan met and befriended in the army lack the charm and comedic timing of their animated counterparts. That’s it. Seriously. I have nothing more to say about them, because they don't really have anything going on. I don't even know why they are included, because their contribution is nil, save for them blandly speaking lines from the animated version’s songs ("I don't care what she looks like, I care what she cooks like"), which is seriously cringe.
The dad is there to tell Mulan that Chi is for warriors. A shame, because I really liked the dad in the movie. He was a source of wisdom for Mulan, whose greatest honour was having her for a daughter. In the live-action, he just takes the sword that Mulan is given at the end of the movie. The mom is meh.
The emperor is also meh. At least he was wise and cool in the animated version, but here he just does bed sheet kung-fu.
Did I mention that the dynamics between the characters are unnatural, forced, awkward in a bad way and in no way indicates any chemistry between them? Oh yeah, I didn’t, until now. They don’t establish much when it comes to emotion.
Simply put, Khan (Mulan’s horse in the animated version) had more personality than all of these characters combined
PERFORMANCES
Liu Yifei as Mulan was a pretty terrible choice. She is just a block of wood, who has absolutely no range, and this isn't because of the writing. She is genuinely bad, and is regarded as one of China’s worst actors (I kid you not). She just can’t emote.
Jet Li as the emperor is meh. But hey, he doesn’t have much to do, so eh.
Jason Scott Lee as Bori Khan is fine. He doesn’t suck, but he lacks the command and authority of a character who is supposed to be intimidating, but I guess it has something to do with the writing of his character.
Donnie Yen is a martial art legend, but unfortunately, he doesn't have much range as an actor.
The best performance of this movie is that of Gong Li, who played the witch. Honestly, she is charismatic, charming and has an idea of what she is doing.
To save everyone’s time, simply put: most of the performances are bland and mediocre. Partly due to bad writing and partly due to most of the actors not being, well, good at acting.
CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL ACCURACY
So Disney went all “we like cultural and historical accuracy”, which is nice. For example, the Huns are replaced by the Rourans, a real tribe in China around the time Mulan was supposed to be alive. They also removed the hair cutting scene, because as iconic and awesome as it is, it doesn’t make sense. Chinese men wore their hair long too. You know what? I like these kinds of changes. I appreciate accuracy. If only Disney didn’t pride themselves on their accuracy when they got almost everything else wrong (They somehow got Mulan's house wrong lol). I don't know jackshit about Chinese culture so just go watch that Xiran Jay Zhao video it's very swag
THE BALLAD OF MULAN
In a surprising turn of events, this isn't accurate to the Ballad, like they had marketed it to be (I know, I’m shocked too). In a reference to the Ballad, Mulan is riding a horse and she sees two rabbits running side by side. She goes home and tells her family that she saw 2 rabbits, and she thinks that one was male and the other female, but she wasn't sure. This just misses the entire point of the Ballad.
Long story short, Mulan in the Ballad is actually a seamstress. She joined the army in her father's place. She defeats the barbarians and goes on a ten year long campaign with her friends, after which they meet the Son of Heaven (a sacred imperial title of a Chinese emperor). He offers her a high ranking position, which she refuses, because she just wants to go home. She returns home and her family welcomes her. Sometime later, her friends come to visit her, and they find out that she is actually a woman. The friends are shocked because she has been in the army for 12 years and in those 12 years, they didn't even realise that she was a woman.
Mulan then replies:
The male hare's feet hop and skip
The female hare's are muddled and fuddled
But when two hares are running side by side
How can you tell the male from the female?
Which is where the poem ends.
So, Mulan just going on, judging those rabbits like that makes absolutely no sense. The Ballad is about how no matter how different men and women look, when they live and fight amongst each other, who gives a damn about the differences? You know what would have made sense though? If Mulan got off her horse, went close to the rabbits, examined them, and then made the conclusion that one is male and the other is female. This would actually be sticking to the message of the Ballad. Also, why do they make it ambiguous as to whether she accepts the high ranking position? I assume for a sequel (yes, God save my soul). Here we can see another example of its impeccable accuracy to the Ballad.
THIS ISN'T EMOTIONAL AT ALL
Everything that made the original film good has been stripped away. Every moment that is meant to be emotional is very dull. For example, the scene where Mulan makes the decision to take her father's place in the army is supposed to be a very powerful scene. Mulan is risking it all just so her dad can be safe. She might be killed if discovered, and her family would be dishonoured.
When Mulan comes back from the Matchmaker, she has a moment of reflection while singing "Reflection". This is the beginning of her personal journey, discovering who she is. In this, after Mulan comes back from the Matchmaker, she doesn't have a moment of reflection. The army immediately shows up. Am I really supposed to believe that Mulan feels bad about this? That Mulan is really struggling?
When Mulan’s friends are singing, it suddenly shifts to the striking scene of the burnt village. This, in my opinion, is the best use of tonal whiplash. From this point on, things are getting serious, and the emotional weight of this tragedy is felt. In this, they just randomly show up at the village.​​ There is no seriousness (stop trying to tell me this movie is adult, mature and serious, it just looks like that on the surface).
Their attempts at being emotional are poor and unconvincing, and ultimately, the end product is an emotionless, soulless, depthless entity.
THE MUSIC
The director mentioned in an interview that she didn’t add songs into the movie because it is “unrealistic to break into song when you're in war”, and I don't think I’ve heard anything more false (apart from the concept of a flat Earth). Even I, who isn't going into war anytime soon, know this is false. They instead inserted instrumentals from the original film. Except, it's very weirdly placed. The instrumental for Reflection is placed when Mulan is fighting the Rourans after she reveals herself to be a woman. Like, there isn't any context. In the end credits, they had the original song "Loyal, Brave and True" sung by Christina Aguilera, which was nice. I don't really have much to say in regards to the music. The music is overall forgettable.
THE ACTION
The action may seem weird, but this kind of martial arts is a part of the Wuxia genre, which is what they were going for. Well, they failed. The choreography is bad, the CGI is bad, EVERYTHING is bad. Honestly, if you want a good Wuxia movie, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon exists. The action is here stupid and stiff.
OTHER DUMB STUFF
Why does Mulan take her armour off before going into battle? That is just stupid. Can't you just take the bindings off? Also, WHY OPEN YOUR HAIR-
Mulan really likes kicking spears (and pointy stuff in general). Seriously. It’s weird.
The CGI is okay I guess, I don't know. The phoenix in some scenes looks pink to me. There are some pretty visuals though.
It is very obvious that there is a green screen used in the scene where Mulan and her friends find the burnt village. And it looks bad. Pretty ugly. It looks bad. The green screen looks bad.
The war strategy is just weird. I can't really say anything about it in text form because how am i supposed to describe it, help- (she literally teleported behind the bad guys in the avalanche scene-).
I like how the animated film, which had a dragon as a comic relief and other silly stuff, is more mature than this.
For what joy does Mulan get another sword from the army? Also, shame the dad is all “oh look at the values written on the sword, they are honourable” even though in the original the greatest honour was having her for a daughter.
How was Mulan even able to tell the gender of the rabbits?
Why not just try to send a warning to the Emperor that the Rourans are coming to get him?
Why does Commander Tung let Mulan lead them-
I AM SO DONE
Well, I think I have said everything I wanted to about this movie. I know I havent talked about its controversies but honestly, I am done. I am so done with this. This document took 5-6 months of my life. I am kind of proud of this, and there isn't much I have done to be proud of. I did procrastinate on this a bit, and I had stuff going on, but finally, I am done. In the future, if I remember something, I'll add it here, but I think that is unlikely. I never want to watch or even go near Mulan 2020 again. It's horrible, and there is barely anything redeemable. I hate it here. It’s been reported that a sequel is in development. If it’s true, of course I’ll watch it, how else am I supposed to validate my self hate? I am also, of course, the resident “friend who suffers for everyone else’s entertainment”. If you want a live action remake of Mulan, Mulan: Rise of a Warrior exists. Go watch it, it’s free on YouTube with subtitles. I really liked it.
If you’ve somehow made it this far, thanks for reading. I congratulate you for putting up with whatever this is. I would also like to take a moment to congratulate myself for actually committing to this. It was painful yet fun to complain about this to the best of my ability. If anyone wants to add anything to this, feel free to do so. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m out. I have lost my faith in humanity, and I have other things to complain about.
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Mother's Day is coming up so here's my top 5 movies to watch with mom or grandma
I lost my mom a year ago but it only feels like a month, and I was really close to my mom and grandma my whole life. Like, I came to them for everything. They were the two people I love most and I still love them most. Here's some movies I recommend for Mother's Day, and you can sit and have a fun time with your mom or grandma and watch these, there's some funny ones on the list.
(Sing a bit of Harmony, 2021) This one isn't really a mother-daughter story but the mother plays an important role in the story by building Shion in the first place. It's about a robot girl who can sing, but everyone has to keep it a secret. Shion causes trouble for the main character, when she's supposed to be there for good reasons. I'm not gonna give spoilers, just watch it!
(CatDog & the Great parent Mystery, 2001) The only conjoined twin who happen to be a cat and dog, have to set off to find their parents. The majority of the movie doesn't have much to do with the parents, but the fact that they look so hard to find them is the point. I chose it for mother's day mostly because my grandma and I were huge CatDog fans, and my mom kind of was too. Yes, it's basically a long episode of the cartoon series, I consider it a movie because it was 40 minutes long, but it was basically a long episode. Actually, a lot of Nickelodeon shows had movies, besides SpongeBob. CatDog was just one of the lesser known "Nicktoons".
(Storks, 2016) Oh gosh, this one is an all time favorite of mine, and my mom loved it too. A lot of people liked it, but I still think it's underrated. Some people are super picky about movies, but I think this movie appeals to me in a lot of ways. The characters are adorable. I LOVE the designs, especially Tulip's. Like, she looks more like a normal girl and not a Disney princess. She looks cute, but they didn't try to make her look "sexy" or anything, they just make her look like a normal girl. Junior's design is also adorable and I love birds, and I love the adorable babies in it too. The story is amazing and shows a different perspective for once, like the fact that they're trying to get the baby to her family meanwhile Tulip has to find her family, but focuses on the baby first! It's incredible and I suggest to anyone!
(WonderPark, 2019) I'm not sure why this movie gets so much hate, it's actually a beautiful movie! Yes, it's not perfect, but I can tell that they worked hard on the story and I feel like they were really trying to appeal to the 9-12 year old audience, because this is almost like a coming-of-age type of story and has a lot to do with the girl's imagination and depression, with her mother being far away. It's better than a lot of movies, in my opinion, but it's not one of my top favorites. It's super emotional and I don't like crying a lot.
(Brave, 2011) Okay, this one of the only Disney movies I don't cringe at, you know me, I'm not a Disney fan! I don't recommend this for Mother's Day because it's a bit sad, not for me at least. If you and your mother or grandmother enjoy this, then go ahead! I never watched it with my mom or grandma. (When I was a kid, my uncle took me to see it in theaters, and then when we rented the DVD of it at the library, the disk was all beat up, and as my mom and grandma got older, my mom refused to watch it because of it being to sad). I don't gotta describe the movie, everyone knows Brave! One of the best Disney movies in my opinion. Mulan, Brave, Luca, and Encanto are probably the bests in my opinion, although Teen Beach Movie and Lilo & Stich are good too, not my favorite tho. I'm just not a Disney fan, even though I like some of their movies.
Anyway, you heard about my favorites, now. I could have added Duck Duck Goose but it's not really a Mother's Day one. It could be I guess, but it could be a Father's Day one too. My mom watched it on Father's Day in 2020 because my dad was watching his wild west movies LOL, I'm glad I had her! Tell me what you think, I'd love to chat with people in the comments and hear their opinions.
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lux-astrorum · 4 years
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see but what I find so compelling about Mulan's character in the 1998 film is that she never knew or even suspected she might have a warrior within. she clearly didn't really fit the mold of an ideal woman in her society, but homegirl was really trying her best. and we see early on in the film that she's resourceful and clever (letting the dog drag around the chicken feed, taking one glance at a chess game and making a smart move), and that's what makes her so successful in battle later on (climbing the pole, the avalanche, the fireworks at the end). she DOES eventually develop physical skill and prowess (y'all BEST not forget when my girl kicked li shang's butt in hand to hand combat!), but "feeling drawn to swords and fighting" or "having strong chi" or whatever isn't even remotely a factor in that initial decision, and I think that makes her a more compelling and powerful character. she doesn't WANT to go become a soldier, it's not a repressed childhood dream or anything; it's just her simply doing what has to be done.
I did, however, like that she takes the gender reveal into her own hands in the 2020 version. that was a nice moment
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brienne · 4 years
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napo-con-fritas · 4 years
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mulan live action spoilers ahead
they decided a bisexual character wasn’t appropiate for disney so they replaced shang with a bland character. unfortunately for disney the homoerotic vibe of every scene mulan and the bird lady villain are in is just as obviously lgbt
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Ok one more post about Mulan 2020 bc I’m just on that train...
The 1998 version gave us the bi-con that is Li Shang (quite unintentionally but we all know he was totally into Ping)...
The 2020 version tries to ensure Honghui only likes Mulan after she’s revealed to be a woman (though I could argue they failed bc bro would not leave Hua Jun alone) BUT in doing so, they inadvertently redirect all that gay energy into Xian Lang (Xian Niang? I’m not sure what her name is the imdb say niang and tumblr says Lang) the Witch, who is Mulan’s foil but also is supremely intimate with Mulan...
Not to mention Mulan was kinda prepared to enter a matchmaking with the Commander’s daughter...
Say what you will about the film, it’s still got an undercurrent of gay vibes...
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bigfrozensix · 4 years
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I took a nap and feel like I sorted my thoughts on Mulan 2020 a little, and just... I hate how gorgeous this movie looks, because the story and characters really don’t do it justice.
Honestly, if you wanna know what’s wrong with this movie. Watch the first 10 seconds. That intro scene alone already showed me this movie completely missed the point of the original.
Fuck starting from the bottom and actually struggling, this Mulan has always known how to fight. Fuck making a sacrifice, because this Mulan always had interest in being a warrior, so her taking her father’s place loses A LOT of meaning. Fuck Mulan using femininty in the final battle to show that being feminent doesn’t equal being weak, because this Mulan must be perfect and only use violence. Fuck giving Mulan powerful dialog, let’s give it to her bland “love interest” instead. Fuck hiding your identity to literally save your life, because you must be “true to yourself uwu” and this Mulan ASKED to be excecuted, oh my fucking god... Fuck having the emperor and literally the entire Imperial City bowing down to Mulan, let’s just have Mulan bow down low to the emperor instead...
Literally the ONE AND ONLY improvement I found in this movie, is that Mulan actually sleeps in the same tent as the other men, because it always bothered me in the animated one that Mulan sleeps in a random af tiny tent outside of the camp. That’s all I can really give this movie.
I know Mulan’s sister is underdeveloped af, but I honest to god enjoyed her more than Mulan herself.
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isagrimorie · 4 years
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I am watching Mulan 2020 right now and.... boy is it confusing.
Confusing in that I don’t get the choices... Like removing her armor in the middle of the battle??? Also ziva don’t know what to feel with all this chi talk... like it’s the Force.
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book-a-holic · 4 years
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I’m not sorry… ok maybe a bit
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typicaltimmeh · 4 years
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Possible Unpopular Opinion of Mulan (2020)
Bear in mind I haven’t actually seen the film in its entirety— only watched/read summaries of it.
The film plays out Chen Honghui (based on Li Shang’s character from the animated version) to be Mulan’s love interest in the film. But, like with the live-action/CG versions of the Maleficent films, I feel they provided an even better love interest here. Xianniang, the witch who sided with a somewhat sympathetic Bori Khan (who fights mainly to avenge his father), felt like a much better fit.
Forgetting that they were on different sides in the movie, the two both desired to be treated as equals to men; though, Xianniang fought out of respect for Khan, while Mulan fought for a sense of honor. You could say Xianniang fought to bring honor to Khan, who was the first to treat her like an equal. Xianniang also seemed to have deep respect for Mulan, as I’m pretty sure a witch like her would have no problem killing Mulan. Xianniang also seemed to be trying to push Mulan to be greater, supporting her as the titular female experiences all of it. And, eventually, toward the end, Xianniang even takes an arrow meant to kill Mulan, sacrificing her life for Mulan’s— mirroring the “death” of Maleficent in Maleficent 2. Not as impactful as the scene from Maleficent 2, though.
So, while she spends vastly less time with Xianniang than Honghui, I feel that Xianniang would’ve been a better love-interest. Both are powerful women looking to be treated as equals as they fight for a sense of honor. Xianniang supported Mulan for being a female warrior, pushed her to be better, and was willing to die to save her. So, possibly unpopular, but I ship it.
Xilan? Mulang? Mulanniang? Witch and Warrior? I’m no crafter of ship names, so I don’t know.
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I think I'll watch Mulan 202 today. I know people are shitting on it and it has terrible ratings, but I'll go in with an open mind. Don't expect the movie to be similar to the animated one at all. Anyways, I'll tag all my posts about it #mulan 2020 spoilers. Soooo, if you don't want to see my dumbass rambling please block that tag.
Anyways, I'll reblog this post when I'm close to watching the movie so for now, bye!
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lux-astrorum · 4 years
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heyy i've noticed that you've seen the mulan movie. Is it worth the watch in your opinion? I love the original so much
It's watchable. Not mind-blowing. But watchable.
I love the original so much too and I appreciate that they really wanted to make this one feel epic. But I think a lot of the characters, particularly Mulan and the added character of the witch, fell kinda flat for me, and there's a lot that got lost in the translation from animation to "live-action." I hesitate to say this and I want to say it carefully, because y'all KNOW I'm all for feminism, but the changes they made to Mulan's character and the addition of the witch's arc felt like....a very artificial version of feminism that they shoehorned in to make a point or whatever but didn't actually have very much to say. Which is disappointing bc my girl Mulan is a feminist ICON!! I feel they very much pinned 21st century first-world white feminism onto these ancient Chinese women and it just didn't work in the same way that the 1998 film has a really organic and universal feminist message. (I actually was worried that this was going to happen to some of the other princesses, notably Belle and Jasmine, in the other live-action versions, but idk for some reason I feel like it was executed in a more believable way in those films)
Anywho, it's worth watching I would say, I think I'd like to watch it again myself. There's some really beautiful shots and some fun moments. It just wasn't everything I had hoped for.
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brienne · 4 years
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    OOC.     ------     We’re watching the Mulan live-action and Phen is just over here, a happy birby because the Phoenix is the Hua family’s main ancestral guardian and they refer to the guardian as a she.
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SPOILERS FOR MULAN 2020 STOP READING IF YOU WANT TOO BE SPOIL FREE !!!
I am Not seeing the new mulan movie until it's December/on blu ray. I'm not using my one month free trail on Mulan! I'm saving that puppy for Loki !
but considering mulan is my favorite disney movie. the movie that taught me that I can be strong and powerful. that basically made me realize I can do whatever a boy can do. A movie that made me fall in love with general Li Shang. I was excited for the live action movie!
then word came out that mushu wasnt going too be in it. or any musical numbers. I figured okay. since the reasoning was they wanted too be true too the orginal legend. respected it and I moved on.
Learned The Love of my life General Li shang was spilt into 2 characters because of the "mee too movement" and it would look bad if mulan was dating her boss basically. that one was harder too get over since THEY DIDNT GET TOGETHER UNTIL AFTER THE WAR AND MULAN WAS NO LONGER A SOLIDER! but was sure the new guy ( idk his name) would be okay. He wont be Li shang but I could grumble thru it.
learning they got a witch in the movie didnt make sense since everything I read was this.was suppose too be close too the legend hence why they got ride of the dragon and musical numbers. could be wrong but I'm pretty sure in the orginal poem of mulan there isnt a witch. slightly annoying they say one thing the bring a witch into a mix lol
the main reason why I and probably many other people love mulan so much is because shes a ordinary girl. she risked her LIFE too save her father and was willing too die for family.
thru out production they been saying this will be closer too the legend of mulan.
I no expert I havent read the poem in YEARS but I'm pretty sure mulan is a ordinary girl.
so behold my fucking surprise when I read spoilers that they gave Mulan Rey Skywalker powers. able too bend fucking gravity and do stunts a Mere human couldn't do. and shit. AT first I thought it was some tumblr prank. that it couldn't possibly be real. but I'm seeing this all over the internet and I'm so dissatisfied.
mulan is a ordinary girl! the part of her charm and being so beloved is that shes simply human. a girl who trained too kick ass and she saved China why the Fuck would they give her " powers" too be kick ass? shes fuckin mulan she doesnt need magical help too be a bad ass!
I can forgive the no musicals! no mushu or general li shang but fuck! NOT this mulan has power shit.
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