Suzuki Tatsuhisa Talks Behind-the-Scenes of FFXV: Part 6
This will be the second-to-last part of the series! Start from the beginning here; go here for the previous part. Listen along from 18:22–21:34 here.
In this part, Tatsu talks to host Shimazu Shintarou (video game industry expert) and assistant host Kubota Miyu (voice actor and singer) about the final camping scene and why he's glad that a line from it became a meme in Japan.
Suzuki Tatsuhisa: We did the same thing [see Part 5 of my translations] for the scene that became the 「やっぱつれぇわ」 meme. [T/N: This line, "yappa tsuree wa", literally "it really is hard'' and localized as "(it's…) more than I can take'' in English, became a meme back when FFXV first released because it could be thought of as a response to criticism of the game and because its casual dialogue made it easy to reenact.] We had so many retakes for the camping scene.
Shimazu Shintarou: I didn't know that.
ST: The script for that scene was rewritten a stupid number of times. I don't remember how many times we rerecorded it. Who was there during the recording...
ST: If I recall, it was Miyano Mamoru [voice of Ignis], Miyake Kenta [voice of Gladio], and me. [Kakihara] Tetsuya [voice of Prompto] wasn't there for the recording. At that point, we were discussing when Noct was supposed to start crying. We tried different points, like the beginning, middle, and end, and even specified which lines he needed to start crying at. We decided on a specific line.
ST: I think Mamoru and Kenta-san both said, "That's not where Noct should cry." "I get the feeling, like, I know he's all worked up." "The pause in this line. I'm saying this in the most idealistic way, but maybe it's better to start crying from here. This is the best point to start the waterworks." "In terms of nuance, this is the best point for the tears to come."
SS: Why did you have to have that in mind together? Is it so you know when it is?
ST: It is.
SS: But why? It isn't necessarily the case. The way I see it, the previous take could've been the better one. But when it's like that, it becomes whole?
ST: Whole.
SS: That's so interesting.
ST: What I find fascinating is how actors have this sixth sense. In other words, it's like an athlete being in the zone**. When you're performing on stage…
ST [to Kubota Miyu]: I'm sure you've experienced it while performing live.
KM: Yes.
ST: When you're in the zone, you can get the audience excited by just looking at them. It's like a mysterious point in time.
SS: What's going on here?
KM: [LOL]
SS: It's like there's a common space out here and a wall has appeared between me and that space.
ST: I don't know what it's like if you're looking at it from the outside.
SS: You're right about that.
ST [to KM]: But you get it, right?
KM: Yeah, it happens in my live shows.
ST: Like when everything comes together on stage.
KM: When it comes together... It happens, of course.
ST: It happens in the recording booth, too.
KM: Totally. I experienced it while recording.
SS: Interesting.
ST: I don't know how, but all the timings were meshing with each other. We saw where the timing would be. We all concentrated so hard on it that we were like, "It has to be here." We had that in mind together. Everyone on the other side of the recording room somehow got the feeling that it had to be there too.
ST: "It would be the best right here. Could you do it, Tatsu-san?" was what they said.
ST: So the millisecond before I was supposed to cry, I was told to really adjust my emotions and we recorded the line that way.
SS: That's amazing.
ST: But I was glad.
SS: Should I play it again?
KM: Right? I've never played it, but I feel like playing it after hearing about all this.
SS: I know, I know.
KM: I really feel like playing it.
ST: Yeah. And to be honest, when I heard that line became a meme, I was so happy I could die.
SS: Yeah.
ST: We worked so hard on it. It was the result of all of our hard work. Besides, they didn't pick a line from anywhere before that point. If you didn't work your butt off, you wouldn't be able to hear that line.
SS: You're right.
ST: You'd hear that line just before you cleared the game.
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I went back to replay half of Chapter 14 just to hear that line again. It was soooo worth it… By the way, やっぱつれぇわ reemerged as a meme in 2019 when the new Japanese era would be named 令和 (Reiwa) and people came up with the pun やっぱつ令和.
**Not me reading "in the zone" and being like, "Ah, yes, KuroBas reference!" (It isn't.)
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Fun facts about the OG Mary now that I'm thinking about her separately from June and retconned Mary:
Met Hera when she was about six and immediately fell in love with her
A running joke was that one of her friends wanted her to kill her dad (because youngest kills youngest) for reasons and she was steadfast against doing this, but would ALWAYS pause for a second when the option of "hey if your dad is dead then maybe you could marry your stepmom" because oh that's interesting
The other running joke was that everyone in the godly world heard about what happened (it was a thing) and whenever a god figured out that Mary was the little kid who inexplicably screamed "I LOVE YOU" at Hera and then burst into tears before running away, they would immediately start howling "that was you???" and Mary would both plot her suicide but also be like bashful giggling, twirling her hair, she talked about me?? type energy, lol
She inherited her dad's anxiety and paranoia but hates being in charge but also wants everyone to follow the rules (i.e. whatever she thinks the rules should be) and gets very annoyed when her friends point out that her idea of law enforcement is basically being in charge
Can't lie for shit but impeccable at acting (June can't lie for shit either but she also can't act for shit)
Works part-time in the underworld at Nico's request. The initial reason was to help her build confidence in around people because she had severe social anxiety, but as the daydream went on it just kind became a thing that happened. Ultimately the underworld feels safe for her so she just. Bothers the shit out of everyone until they give her stuff to do so she'll go away, lol
Does different tasks as part of her job, including, but not limited to, working part-time as a psychopomp with Hermes and Thanatos (wartimes makes collecting the dead a busy time indeed) (she also has gear that helps her see and grab souls because otherwise she'd be flailing wildly)
Hades tried to prank her as he does with all new hires but it backfired and now she's never allowed to drink coffee that she makes herself because the way she makes it means her heart will probably explode, and, no, she cannot make it any other way
Had this recurring dream (not a nightmare, she knows what a nightmare is and this ain't that) where the end was always her being strapped to a chair while two other versions of herself forced her to eat them ('twas a metaphor for repression)
Cries so much and all the time but also can not handle it when other people cried 'cause she doesn't know what to do and will sort of panic when there is no obvious fix or solution to make the tears stop (I ended up making this a thing for her whole cabin because I thought it was funny for it to be a shared trait)
For a while I had this running joke where if someone tried to compare her to her dad she would immediately panic and try to kill them (she looked a lot like him, and there was this moment I had written in my head where the kids try to see what they'd look like older and genderswapped and she looks so much like her dad Hades is caught off guard for a second before leaving and grabbing Poseidon who immediately starts cackling because holy shit you look just like him)
Active beef with Ash, Thanatos' kid, who thinks Mary who is one of the funniest people ever even though Mary's whole thing about is her being convinced that Ash wants to kill her friends despite there being no proof otherwise and also knowing, logically, that Ash does not want to kill her friends (Ash solely developed a survival instinct because she wants Mary to be the one who kills her)
Mary does love Ash very much - she's just trapped in her intrusive paranoia even when she knows those delusions are wrong
Anyway if I did bring OG Mary back, I think I'd want to give her a new name to separate her from retconned Mary, who is her own person. Something sky themed maybe, like how Coral is an ocean themed name.
Also I think it's so funny she was in love with Hera. Imagine Nico introducing her to Jason like "hey, she also has undiagnosed autism and severe sense of justice that makes her borderline murderous, talk it up" and then Jason ends up discovering that his half-sister high-key had age-appropriate horny dreams about their step-mom pretty much up until the day she died, lol
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June Egbert is a plausible realization of one of my favorite homestuck headcanons: Egbert is queer in such a way that "I am not a homosexual" ends up being 100% true. Usually I do this by writing John as asexual, so as to better dig into the Jake parallels, but the June option is fun in its own ways, which I've very seldom seen explored.
Because, out of all of the 4 letter j names that could have been chosen(joan comes to mind as an obvious possibility) she chose to call herself by the name vriska accidentally breathed into existence all those years ago.
Vriska, who at who's hands John died and was remade. Who John liked a lot, and then hated. Who there might have been sloppy alien make outs with. Who, on retrospect John feels silly about feeling so much about. After all, they only knew each other for a day. Vriska who's life he saved and became one of the only survivors of his own universe in the process. Who might very well have died young a 2nd time. Vriska, who probably doesn't remember that the June interaction ever happened or who doesn't care.
That's the person who June let's name her. And there are so many complicated emotions tied up in that idea. It's like getting a tattoo for a dead person except that person is alive again and you don't like her but you thought you liked her when when you were 13 and then she died, and then memory of that dead child is still so integral to the person you ended up becoming that you name yourself after her anyway. Wtf. The grief, nostalgia, and bittersweet irony so evident in the idea of June making that choice.
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