Anyway. Bi and Mspec Lesbians aren't a hotly "debated" topic or even new to queer culture, it's just the newest thing that bullies who REALLY want to be homophobic and even racist use to justify harassing gay people they don't like.
It's the thinnest possible veneer of progressive language wrapped around TERF and reactionary rhetoric so that they can feel righteous for forming an angry mob against vulnerable targets. If you're gullible enough to fall for the newest wave of bigotry within the queer community, and turn on your allies because they're "confusing" or "invading your spaces," the SAME way they turned on bi/pan labels, trans people, xenogenders, neopronouns, and aroace people before this, then get lost.
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i don’t care if this bring discourse to the timeline, but this is so mf weird.
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all else aside, people who love men, or are men, in any way shape or form, who insist upon referring to themselves as lesbians despite discomfort of actual lesbians, are creepy. like theres nothing pure and innocent about your disregard for the basic boundaries of lesbian community.
its creepy that you feel so entitled to a word even after people have explained to you why and how its shitty to use it for yourself when theres a thousand alternatives. and its entirely your own fault if lesbians feel uncomfortable or unsafe around you.
[transgender women arent men and if you thought i was talking about them that says more about you than it does me]
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To put it simply: Mspec means basically: Multisexual spectrum, Or Multi-attraction spectrum- Aka romantic or Sexual Orientations like Bisexual N Pansexual where someone is attracted to multiple genders!
Being Mspec gay or Mspec lesbian in simple terms means someone who is gay but also being mspec- example being someone who is bi but also gay. There's many reasons why someone identify this way- one specifically being that person is multigender and being gay and mspec both working for you/you identifying as such- Which I describe myself as.
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Queer is Reclaimed y'all need to leave eachother alone
I've been in the community since the day I was born to two lesbians. I've heard all the chants and slogans since the 90's. One of the main ones shouted during pride parades was "we're here, we're queer, get used to it!, that one was so popular it even got used in a Simpsons bit. We have reclaimed queer since at least the 90's.
Being reclaimed doesn't mean that it's not still used against us by bigots. All it means is we're not going to let them use it to silence us as a group. And y'know what? I think you all know that. Because you all know about the N word.
Everyone knows the rules for the N word, only black people can say it etc. That's because they as a community have reclaimed it. But that doesn't mean it's not still a slur, and so non-black people aren't supposed to use it. It can still be said with cruelty and intent to harm, ie used as a slur.
Queer is very similar. Many in our community have had it used as a weapon against us and so it is a slur. However, we as a community have chosen to take it for our own, to rip the cudgel from our oppressors hands! And by trying to get us to stop using it amongst ourselves, you're giving that weapon back to the bigots!
A lot of the "queer is a slur" group will talk about how some have trauma from the word queer, but they never acknowledge that others in our community have trauma with different words for us. I was called a lesbo, many gay dudes get called fags, and of course our trans siblings get tranny hurled at them. But we don't take those terms from those in our community who use them, because that's their choice.
You're telling the wrong people to stop using queer! Our family can use it all we want! Tell the cishets not to use it all you want, but leave the rest of the community alone!
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btw I mean this in the least mean way possible but whenever somebody types “bi mikers” as a way as saying “bi mike truthers,” I immediately read it as “big milkers.” sorry about that. it’s genuinely not even intentional.
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i can't explain it well bc my brain is fried after exams but i feel like there is Something there in the fact that whenever the byIer community talks abt how shipping byIer isn't inappropriate and that them kissing is completely normal and fine, people always, always, ALWAYS have to pipe up with "well yeah kissing is fine but [goes on to preach to the choir abt how nsfw byIer is bad]". like. why is that where your mind jumps. why is it that when one person says "mike and will kissing on screen like every other couple has been allowed to would be good and normal and expected, and writing fics where they kiss isn't inappropriate at all, and we should discuss why people think them kissing is any different and inherently dirty and Bad because therein lies the actual issue" some people gotta pipe up and prove that point exactly. like. do u get wht i mean? no one brings up "pr0shipping" or sex or any of that irrelevant shit whenever someone talks abt j4ncy or lvmax sharing a peck. so why do u bring that up here and now? why do you act like we're talking about anything else here and put words in our mouths? why do you feel Some Type Of Way as an lgbt person urself whenever someone else says that they'd like to see a couple tht looks like them express innocent physical affection the same way that everyone else in the show does? why do you suddenly start talking about cp when literally no one is fucking talking about that at all? like. hello. i can't be the only bitch that sees this i can't be the only person that goes 🤨❓❓❓whenever ppl start to needlessly steer the convo in tht direction like .......
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someone on reddit: just so you’re aware a/b/o w/o slashes is a slur!
people on reddit: BUT CONTEXT!
me: yeah no seriously, it doesn’t matter if there’s context, it’s a fucking slur.
people on reddit: YOU’RE A PURITEEN!
me: i mean i’m not... i just don’t think you should use a slur against first nations peoples in my country.
people on reddit: I DON’T CARE, JUST BECAUSE I’LL OFFEND ONE OR TWO PEOPLE!
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I just learned that there's shit going down with Quackity and I'll just want that for this problem in specific my ask box is closed
I do think that what Q did was shitty, but I can't elaborate or discuss on it because im not black sooo....
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I just think it’s so sweet and nice of Ronen to show his support reposting and commenting on that post of Rafa & Lyndsy
so as someone not on fandom ig/twitter, I was so confused with that anon the other day about people harassing Rafa, but I've since gathered from talk about it around here that it had to do with negative reactions from people on ig... this anon message prompted me to check out what Ronen reposted/commented and I braved the comment section and every single comment I see is happy & positive and I've scrolled pretty far. So whatever took place before (which I'm not aware enough to speak on since I clearly didn't know it had even happened), I think it's fair to say people are showing their love and support now.
and from what I've seen of Ronen, it seems like he's pretty good about hyping up the rest of the cast on social media in general and I agree that is sweet/nice of him to do that.
Part of me thinks Ronen is basically half of the 911 Lone Star marketing department the way he hypes up this show tho tbh.
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