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saveyourheart13 · 7 years ago

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So with your latest ask thingy. How about Contact, Chessboard and Wild Card!? (Provided you don't mind doing multiple that is)

Oh, Cav, you know I will never mind having more than one thing to answer! I did a different OC for each one, though, so I hope you didn’t expect them all to be for the same person :P

Neomi Violet:

Contact: How does your OC(s) feel about touch/physical contact? Are they affectionate? If so, how do they display affection to others?

Let’s talk about Neomi for this one, since I’vebeen thinking a lot about her lately lol. She’s pretty affectionate and totallyfine with physical contact; a lot of the times she’ll initiate casual toucheswith people she knows, and she gives so many hugs. Neomi is one of thosesuper bubbly and casually affectionate people, like hand on the arm or randomlyhooking her arm through another friend’s arm, the like

Violet Trick (shhh don’t question my names):

Chessboard: Who is the most logical? Or the schemer/planner?

Mmm probably Trick! She’s all about subterfugeand infiltration, and she prefers to execute things according to plans (thoughshe’s also very good at adapting on the fly!). Very much about precision cuts,you feel?

Seren Morntide:

Wild Card: Talk about any OC! Anything you want!

Let me talk about my girl Seren! Because I’vebeen playing her recently, and I have a lot of feelings about her (and I shouldreally take the time to write out in more detail some of her backstory stuff). Butyeah, Seren ‘Mariner’ Morntide (or Vrisseren, when her parents are being like that), Human and about 23 years old.Can do a good fight, especially with a glaive (her weapon of choice), alsoextremely gay for her girlfriend.

Seren was actually raised by a family of Dragonborn– her birth parents left her in Starfall Harbor (which is a town and I have adumb idea about why it’s named that lol; thanks DM for giving me that freedom)when she was like a year and a half old, so she doesn’t remember them at alland doesn’t consider those people to be her parents or family. Her family are herparents (Fendalynn and Vrakkiis) who raised her and her older brother (Wulrinn),as far as she’s concerned. Her first language is Draconic because of this,though she also learned Common from a fairly young age; she actually has aslight accent as a result of this (but I haven’t nailed that down quite yet forRP stuff lol). The Morntides own and run a shipping and trade company based intheir town (Morntide Shipments), so she’s kinda helped with that and beeninterested in the actual shipping aspect of it from pretty early on

Uhhh what else… Seren’s an ocean girl, sheloves swimming (and is pretty fucking good at it) and she was a sailor for along time, with her brother. He’s captain of The Dawnstar, and she was kinda the unofficial (and later official)first mate/navigator when she was old enough. OH, she’s also very bad with people, sometimes (as inmechanically she has a -1 Charisma mod lol) and she tends to come off as a bitrougher than she means to, and generally just says things that come to mindinstead of trying to be overly diplomatic about it (she calls the constable ofthe town she and the rest of the party are currently in ‘Constable Stick-Up-His-Ass’pretty consistently, so I mean). Also pretty fighty, and could probably take alot of people in said fights. That being said, she’s very soft when it comes to her girlfriend, Luminae.

Also I just remembered that Luminae is gonnaoutlive Seren by a ton, because she’s an Elf and Seren is a Human, and now I rememberedall the sappy angst ideas I had for that :^)

Thank you so much for asking, Cav!

#asked and answered #cavalier3026 #Neomi Violet #Trick #Seren #jayla does dnd #roll for it

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spongebob-connoisseur · 4 years ago

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ok kind of a weird thought but i kind of lowkey wanna know what an early 2010s spongebob tumblr fandom was like from what i get it was mostly just gifs or memes but i want to know if there were fanartists and stuff hahaha i mean you dont really see spongebob posts called heritage posts so i am assuming for the most part the fandom was smaller back then

Tbh I'm curious too. I don't know much since I was a tween/early teens back then + I stopped watching the show until 2012/3 because I didn't like the episodes that the middle era was dishing.

I only got back into the show because that was when all those cartoon reviewers started to pop up like "MODERN SPONGEBOB BAD!! WE NEED HILLENBURG BACK" and being a naive kid back then, I blindly listened to everything they said and parroted all that. It did make me super nostalgic and got me back into watching the show again. And things hasn't been the same ever since lol

I wasn't on tumblr so idk what was going on with the SB fandom here. However I do remember some bits and pieces from deviant art. Some ship wars. Spandy was the dominant ship at the time. There was some cool fanartists. I wonder what happened to all of them. I remember invader zim fanartists would make art of zim murdering spongebob because they blamed SB for their show's demise.

Also when those cartoon reviewer posts on DA started to show up. Get a hand at being a cartoon review things (those boxes where people would write up their reviews of episodes) started popping up.

Also for some reason, a LOT of memes about how Paul Tibbit ruined the show and disgraced Hillenburg. Like this.

A lot of the things that is being said about Spongebob is a complete copy and paste of what they've been saying back then.

I'm getting off topic though. That's just mostly what I remember the fandom being back then lol

But one fan artists I remember from deviant art was NEOmi-triX. I don't think they do SB fanart anymore but I remember I used to excitedly check their posts for new fan art because I really liked their style. A lot of it was human spongebob stuff and I thought it was super cute.

They also used to do this "Ask-NEOs-SB" where you can leave an ask in the comment section and draw the human versions of the characters replying to your ask. Very exciting 👀

Yeah uhh that's the most that I remember lol

Sorry that it isn't much. There's certainly other users on here who are older than me and remember yee old days of the SB fandom™ you'd probably get more info from them. But this was still fun to answer!

#Ask #spongebob #spongebob squarepants #sb #the spongebob connoisseur #spongebon squarepants #spongebob meme

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anabe23bookwormstuff · 5 years ago

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A deal Chapter 16

(Something, I won't tell you what, is waiting for you in this chapter so... please keep reading. I know you'll like it)

Four of the guards that were standing there moved out of the line, one pushed the man away and the other were now pointing their guns at the other guards, the ones that had held Ben and punched him.

Queen Zorya took the saber from the man's hands and walked towards Ben who was now barely standing thanks to two of her soldiers.

Rey ran up because she couldn't trust that she wasn't planning on hurting Ben too.

But then noticed that she was only cutting Ben's ties, and allowed Rey to get to him and help him, even handing her the saber.

"Listen everyone!, this isn't okay. You've came here motivated by rage, by fear, by a false sense of justice and I am here to tell you that you are all wrong." The crowd started arguing and booing the queen, all but the people from Naboo.

"Careful" a guard came to help Rey held Ben as he almost collapsed on the floor. He was trembling and cold sweat covered him, Rey was being extra careful not to touch him where he was injured.

"Do you want to sit down?" she asked but he made a small sign that he wanted to stay standing.

"The man you see, is not Kylo Ren. He's not!" The queen started explaining. "I have witnessed many times the diference between him and Ren, all of you, who's planets have used his help or Rey's have probably seen it too. This man, has only seek out to help you, restore the peace in the galaxy and traveled around to find and stop the ones trying to bring the First Order back. He has only been kind, since I know him as Ben solo, he is the son of Leia, the leader of the resistance and the nephew of Luke Skywalker!. He has never mentioned that he wants to rule the galaxy, or has intentions of it, he hasn't harmed anyone, and I'm telling you right now, that I am not okay with the way he's been judged." She walked closer to Ben and inhaled looking at his wounds.

"Do you think that Kylo Ren would ever allow for someone to do this to him? He wouldn't even have the decency to admit his mistakes, let alone allow anyone to touch him, punch him or treat him like this. He didn't hurt the gards taking him down, punching him or even this man" she called for her guards to bring him close.

"Cal Tenn, Senator of Neomy, you've harmed this man for your own pleasure and put people against him without even giving him a chance. You won't rule anymore and sent away. As for Ben, he has Naboos protection and I insist that all of you, kings, queens, senators and people give him a chance. I think his blood and wounds today are a bigger and clearer proof than anything I can say to you that he is NOT like Kylo Ren and judging him like that would be unfair"

Rey decided to talk and get this over with as she could sense Ben was about to pass out.

"You've given troopers a second chance, you claim to want me to rule, you want the galaxy to be better, just as much as we want it to be. We've went to help youwhen you call for us and not once have we done anything but good, Ben included. Every single time. I won't rule if you dare to hurt him again and he doesn't have to prove anymore that he is not Kylo Ren!"

Soon the queen ordered her guards to send everyone home, scolt the royals to their planets and send Cal back to Neomy where she had already made a deal with the people to change Cal for an old friend of hers as senator, and took Ben to a room with medics to tend for him.

Even when the queen had said the would protect Ben, Rey didn't trust her or anyone, and she never left Ben alone. The only time she got distracted was when Finn and Poe got in the room and hugged her.

"I mean, it probably wouldn't give any of you a very good image with the people but why didn't you fight back? Why did he let them get him like that? Is he even going to be okay?" They bombarded Rey with questions.

"I guess... he just wants to proove his not bad. And, he should be okay, in pain for a few days but I could help him." she remembered when he cured the ugly wound the troopers had done to her on her arm.

"And are we staying in Naboo?" Finn asked.

"For now, he doesn't have the strenght to go out and I don't want to risk anyone attacking us if we get out of here but you guys can go back to the base" she offered.

"Maybe one of us should go..." Poe said, after all he and Finn were the Generals.

"I can go and be back tomorrow, I'll also let you know it the other planets have said anything about this."

"Okay... " Rey sighed and leaned back on the wall looking at the nurses do their job cleaning and stitching Ben.

"I'm sorry he got through it Rey" Poe said.

"Did you know he would come?" she suddenly asked.

"Hey! no, no, no. I know you're looking for ways to express your anger but this time I had no idea he was planning to come to Naboo" he hurried to explain.

"I'm sorry" Rey whispered closing her eyes for a second.

Poe gently pulled her to his chest.

"You're hurt too Rey"

"This is nothing" she dismissed him.

"You should rest"

"I'll rest when they're done with him" she said opening her eyes again.

"I'll look for the droids. Good luck" he said and got out.

Some minutes later the nurses were done and bowed their heads a little to Rey before getting out of the room.

Ben was now alone on the big bed, his chest was bare except for the bandages here and there.

She slowly went to sit beside him and made a quick recall of his injuries.

She gently placed her hands on his arm and took a few breaths, directing her force towards him, but stopped when she realized that he would probably want to keept the scars. Her force had already healed him a little, but not enough. So she decided to lay beside him and wait for him to wake up.

"Sorry, keep sleeping" Ben said when Rey opened her eyes.

He had taken her hand which woke her up.

"How are you?" She asked instead.

He shrugged in response and they both laughed a little.

"Maybe we'll actually end up having to stay at the lake house" he commented.

Any other day she would've smack his arm for that, but she didn't want to hurt him anymore.

"Why do we always have to end up getting hurt?" She sighed placing her head on his shoulder.

"We like the rush" he jocked.

"You should be more angry and with less energy for your jokes" she said.

"Don't worry, I feel better thanks to someone" he looked at her side ways.

"You noticed? I stopped when I figured out that I had to ask you first" Rey started apologizing.

"Well... I didn't ask you that time and you were a hundred times worst. But, don't do it now, you've helped me enough and you have to keep your strength."

"Meh, like I'm using it for anything else this days" she commented staring at the ceiling.

Slowly she felt Ben pulling her towards him, to his chest. She tried to pull back becas she didn't want to hurt him, bt fighting back would probably hurt Ben, so she gave up and rested there as careful as she could.

After a while she raised her hand and gently caressed his arm.

Then they went back to sleep again.

"Poe is coming today" Ben told Rey as they trained.

Why were they training? because they didn't have anything else to do. They've already gone through the house a million times, and just laying in bed was something none of them were used to.

"Really? and why do you know and I don't?" she asked dodging Ben's saber and running up a stone to jump over.

"Because you were sleeping" Ben smirked landing beside her and they kept swinging their sabers.

"You two just love keeping things from me" she accused him and used the force to move some plants between her and Ben.

It slowed him down and she ran away as fast as she could.

She had to admit that this forced break was actually being enjoyable.

She sensed Ben's strength the moment he lifted the ground she was walking on a little, making her dizzy and almost trip, she giggled and kept running.

If she fell then she fell, and she'll get back up and they'll keep fighting.

"Surrender" Ben said in a deep voice appearing in front of her and pointing the lightsaber at her.

She stopped running and raised her saber too.

"No" they kept fighting until Ben tripped on a trees root and fell backwards. Rey took her time laughing before she went to help him.

"You know, you're laughing but I could've have died" Ben said trying to supress his laughter.

"Oh, shut up" Rey said extending her hand.

"Seriously, my wounds" he signaled his whole body and they both laghed. His wounds had healed one or two days ago.

"Do you think we should go back?" Rey asked crossing her arms.

"To the palace? maybe to take a shower, to the base... if they don't know where it is"

"The palace is fine by now" she said and they started walking back.

Rey sometimes had to wear the clothes that the queen had given her, which were mostly dresses and today she had worn her last clean pants.

After she and Ben took a shower they got dressed and met downstairs, in the dining room.

"Lady Rey" Ben jocked bowing his head a little when he saw her.

Rey had asked for the clothes to be as modest as posible, and people in Naboo had a different concept than her about it.

(I don't know if in star wars they would call it this, but that's how it's called in real life so you can all imagine it okay? okay, thanks. Apologies if I got anything wrong.)

She was wearing a long blue cheongsam dress, with an intricate embroidery and jewels on the sleeves.

"Shut up" she answered, eyeing him up and down.

He wore a red shirt under a blue and gold hanten jacket and blue pants. The collar of the shirt allowed Rey to see some of his chest. He looked too good.

"I wonder how people in Naboo don't cook to death with all the clothes they wear" she commented turning to see out the window.

"Me neither" Ben said and they were both distracted by the sound of a ship landing.

"Poe!" Rey greeted him. Behind him D-O and Chewie were coming off the ship.

"Hey"

Ben was walking a little more slow towards them because he wasn't sure how things were with Chewie.

"Hi, Ben" the droid stopped at his feet and said.

"Hi"

Rey took Ben's hand and walked with him to meet the others.

As they walked Poe had to admit that the clothes and everything, it seemed like they were kings of this place.

Poe hugged Rey and shook hands with Ben, and then Chewie came close. He wasn't too expresive with Ben but at least this time he didn't push him or screamed at him.

"Come on, let's talk inside" Ben said. He noticed that some of the servants were coming and going, probably getting everything ready for them to eat. He had let them know earlier that they were waiting for more people.

"Chewie it's your third plate..." Poe whispered to his friend, ho grunted in response.

"Once in a while it won't hurt anyone" Rey commented.

"I'm afraid that he won't remember that at the base we don't have this food" Poe argued.

"When things settle and the base doesn't have to be so secret anymore, or maybe people start moving to other planets, we can get batter for everyone" Ben suggested.

It shouldn't but it always amazed Rey, and Poe, and ... even more Chewie, when Ben talked like this. When he tought about the others and assured with his words that he was thinking of doing something to change their condition for good.

"Maybe" Poe said.

"How are the kids?" Ben said. He was the first to finish his food, but Rey knew that it was because he had ordered a smaller portions so the others had more.

"Oh yeah, the kids. I sometimes forget that they're there. They're okay, but we don't know exactly what to do with them. Jannah proposed to look for their families and in cas they have someone we can take them there, if not... well, we don't know." Poe answered.

"And what do they do everyday? they still run around?" Rey teased.

"Well, we have like fourthy kids at the base right now, so, some run around, some build things... some ask adults to teach them things... it varies. Talking about kids, Leda gave me this for you" Poe said reaching inside the pocket of his jacket and extending a folded paper to her.

She unfolded it and smiled looking at the drawing.

It was her with her yellow saber in hand, a head a little too big for the body the girl drew and the two moons of Hakuji behind her.

-I miss you Ray. Come bak soon.- the paper said.

She showed it to the others.

"Yeah, I miss that girl too" Rey admited.

"We can go back soon... right Poe?" Ben said.

"It... depends. Cal has been finally replaced and the queen convinced the other not to put you in trial... and as much as I don't think that anyone is going against her, I don't think Rey has an option either" he said grabbing his neck nervously.

"Option... abot what?" she asked.

"They are still set on you ruling Rey" Rey sighed shaking her head and leaning back on her seat.

"Come on... I shot lightnings at people, I've never asked for this and made clear that I didn't care. Why. are. they. still pressing?!"

"We have to talk to the queen, let's not just jmp into conclusions." Ben said.

And as if they had summoned her, a guard knocked on the door. He came to tell them that the queen requested to talk to Rey.

Obviously all her friends followed her.

"Only a year Rey, just one." The queen said. She was sitting on her throne as Rey stood in the stairs and the others rested on the walls around them.

"But... why-"

"There's not a single person who hasn't heard from you. Not one. They all know your power and that you've saved them for the First Order and Emperor Palpatine, Rey, No one is going to say no to you" the queens voice had a seducing, calm tone. Patient like she was willing to repeat this to Rey until she understood it.

"Then... I want to rule with Ben" Rey knew that in no way they'll allow her to do so. If they had taken so long to allow him to live, they wouldn't hesitate to argue about him ruling.

"Okay"

"And I won't-. Wait... you said okay?!" Poe and Chewie turned to look at Ben with questioning faces, wondering if that had been something he planned, but he looked as surprised as them.

"Okay. If thats what you want, then okay. But, you can't make it public, and you still have to listen to what we tell you" Rey couldn't believe what she was hearing.

"Rey... don't be afraid. You'll help us rebuild the galaxy, only for a year, and then... you cna do whatever you want. Go wherever you want to go, rest. It's fro a good cause and we'll be here to help you." she stood up and walked close to her, taking her hands.

Rey studied the face of the queen. She should only be a couple of years older than Rey, but her bright red cheeks and the glitter covering her eyes and part of her face made it hard to be sure.

She wanted to believe that the queen had good intentions. After all, she had been the one stop Ben's torture and offer them a place to stay more than once.

"Ben Solo, come." she called out later, still holding Rey's hands.

Chewie pathed Ben in the back to go forward, because Ben didn't react.

He walked up the stairs ans stopped a couple bellow them.

"Here, come on." She extended her hand to take Ben's.

He turned to look at Rey and then got close. Instinctively he and Rey held their free hands together.

"Ben Solo, are you willing to rule beside Rey?"

"How is that fair? you didn;t leave me any choice" Rey argued.

"Please don't interrupt" the queen said and looked back at Ben.

"Is she marrying them or something? what the hell is going on?" Poe murmured to Chewie as they leaned on the wall.

"If... Rey wants me to, then I'll do it" he answered.

The queen placed Rey and Ben's hands together and then asked Rey.

"Are you sure you want him to rule with you?" Rey looked at him and for a second her vision of her in the sith throne with him flashed on her mind. She squeezed his hand a little and saw his eyes.

He was nervous, because he hadn't seen her desition coming and to be honest Ben would prefer to forget all about thins things and just go around the galaxy being a pilot, but for her, he'll stay and try to be the best.

Rey nodded.

"I do" she said.

"Chewie explain this to me" Poe pressed, they ha dnow walked closer to hear and see them better.

Chewie cried in response arguing that he didn't understand either what was going on.

"Then, tomorrow we'll meet the others and give them the good news. Your majesties" the queen smiled at them and let their hands go.

For some reason their hearts were beating faster and they couldn't stop feeling... linked as they walked back to the lake house.

"Guys mmm not to be intrusive but... exaclty what happened there?" Poe asked.

"I don't know. I'm the queen? Leader? wahtever now" Rey asnwered dodging the real question.

"No, Chewie. We're not married" Rey explained after her friend spoke.

"The queen was just making sure we were... not lying and willing to take the throne" Ben said.

"Sure... sure it was" Poe said.

"You're staying the night right? Please stay for the meeting and then we can all go together" Rey said to her friends once they reached the house.

"What do you think Pal? Another day eating like kings?" Poe said.

After they showed them their rooms and had dinner they retired to sleep.

Rey was having trouble sleeping and got out of the room as quietly as possible, careful not to wake Ben.

"I supposed you'll be here" A voice said behind her. She had come to the balcony, where you could see the moon and the lake, and it's noise helped her relax.

"I'm glad I didn't wake you up" she answered. She covered herself more with the long red robe she had. It had been at least an hour since she got out here.

"I can sense you're afraid" Ben said standing against the railing but leaving Rey her own space.

"A year can go very slow..." she said tracing the pattern of the fabric on her clothes.

"But after that year, you are free. And I will help you with anything you need" Ben rubbed her cheeck and then let his hand fall.

"What if I'm not sure what to do next?" she asked. Their bodies had slowly came closer and now their shoulders brushed.

Rey sensed nervousness and excitement coming from Ben, and then he took her hand.

"I don't know how people are supposed to do this, I don't even know if I should ask for this right now but... Rey" he exhaled.

She searched for his eyes.

"When this is done, and you've chosen what to do, and if you still want to be with me... I- would you...? How did my grandfather do this?!" Ben got cuaght in his words and chuckled in embarrasement.

"Ben..."

"Marry me, Rey" he said, suddenly being serious and holding her hand above his heart.

#reylo #ben solo #adam driver #fanfic

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neo-kajatrash · 7 years ago

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Basic summary and current situation please, If it's a problem then no. Thanks for your time. Same confused anon.

Hi again! I am so sorry I was very busy traveling for a week so I didn’t have time to answer until now. Thank you so much for asking I’m glad you wanna know about them ^^ I’m assuming you’re talking about Rusty and Copperwell mostly–and if I got into all my gobs this would be a very long answer, heh. But here’s the summary of these two. And just to clarify, they live in the WoW universe.

I’ve tried to make it short, but there’s a ton of information about them (also that I’ve left out,) so this might be a little long. Also if you wanna see progression of their story through art, here’s their gallery folder on DA: https://www.deviantart.com/neomi-trix/gallery/63049231/WoW-Goblins

Copperwell’s mother was a prostitute who fell for a retired hitman and tried to settle with him, but as soon as she had her second child with him, he left. Those two children were Copperwell and his little sister Maxine. (Copperwell is their last name–he has a first name but I haven’t revealed it yet, except in the roleplay that this is all from.) While he was still a kid, his mother found Rusty abandoned on the street at a couple years old and decided to take him in. Rusty never went to school or learned anything because no one bothered to teach him. The only thing he learned was sign language because he’s mute, and he quickly got very good at it. The three of them grew up together on Kezan, and it was nice for a while.

But when Copperwell was in his late teens, Rusty in his early teens, and Maxine was still a child, their mother left for a mysterious expedition and never returned. Copperwell got a job as an accountant for a rich goblin so he could support himself and his siblings, living in the same small house. Rusty soon got a job working in the kaja’mite mines to bring in money too, but after a few years he was was laid off when the goblins started getting more trollish slaves (partly headcanon there). Rusty had already broken up with a short-lived relationship and moved on to another, but she was very cold and abusive towards him. She didn’t care about how he felt, she didn’t bother to learn any sign language to speak with him, and she was generally just rough with him. Copperwell had many hookups during this time, but never a lasting boyfriend.

It wasn’t long after that when Kezan was destroyed by the cataclysm. The three of them were able to flee, but when the Alliance attacked their ship for no reason, Maxine hit her head and drowned. Rusty was the one to pull her to shore, they buried her there in a shallow sandy grave with the others, and after that day Copperwell was never the same. Rusty had to pull him around and feed him for a week or two as they were struggling to survive on the Lost Isles, but soon Copperwell picked back up and helped Rusty and the others as they all did. Here is where Copperwell got extremely skilled with a gun, especially as a sniper-type, and Rusty perfected hand-to-hand combat.

Rusty found more misfortune when he was wounded by an Alliance soldier and taken to the Gallywix Labor Mine on the Lost Isles. He worked there for a long time alone, and that’s where he received the scars from lashes on his back. Copperwell finally found him there when the island was about to explode, and hurried to drag him to safety–but as he did so, they ended up tumbling down a cliff and Rusty had his ear ripped to shreds. But they finally made it to Thrall’s ship to Kalimdor, alive and together.

Once they arrived in Aszhara and Bilgewater Harbor was being built, they lived there (after living in Booty Bay for a short time). Copperwell was determined to make a new name for himself in this new world of theirs, and using Rusty’s brute strength and emotional vulnerability, he built himself up with his own predatory loaning business, and lives in an estate with staff that cook/guard/maintain it. Rusty believed he had nowhere to go but to stay with his brother, the one person he trusted and who could speak to him (Copperwell knows sign language too). He ended up working for him as a lackey/bodyguard, calling him “boss” more than anything. But Copperwell constantly abused his trust by treating Rusty no better than a servant, making him sleep in a very small cold room, making him fight others very often, sometimes punishing him by starving him or not allowing him to heal himself after a scrap, always talking down to him, not letting him get out at all or have any social life whatsoever, and always raising a hand to him to the point where Rusty just expected to be hit/kicked out of frustration on a regular basis. Copperwell didn’t know how to contain his anger or festering grief over his dear little Maxine, and blindly took it all out on his brother–while also having constant nightmares, paranoia, and anxiety/dissociative episodes. Rusty feared if he just up and left him that Copperwell would focus his ire on someone else and maybe kill someone, or get hurt. He also didn’t want to abandon his brother, and he didn’t comprehend that his life was that upside down–but he was very miserable and isolated for a long time.

When Copperwell was 32 and Rusty was 26/27 (current ages), @deezmo‘s character Nymrina showed up in their lives. Very long story short, she convinced Copperwell to let her work for him as a healer to pay off a friend’s debt, and so often healed Rusty whenever he got hurt and ended up becoming his friend. Well that turned into much more and they started dating behind Copperwell’s back, Nymrina often inviting Rusty to the guest room at night where she stayed sometimes. Rusty viewed (and views) her as a sweet angel who would never hurt him like he was so used to, and it took him a while to get comfortable and not so stiff/shy around her. What really did it was when Nymrina learned sign language just so she could speak to him, and that meant the world to him at the time. She also started teaching him how to read and write which meant a lot to him too. Copperwell finally found out about them, though, and was very mad at Rusty, and he and Nymrina were away from each other for a few months.

Many many many other things happened… Nymrina and Rusty at different times almost being killed by the same warlock, the two thinking Nymrina had died at war, Nymrina being rescued from a war camp (totally separate occasions), many other characters’ stories throughout this time, etc etc… But then one day something in Copperwell snapped, and he lashed out at Rusty worse than ever before. Luckily though, @deezmo‘s goblin Marax happened to show up and stopped Copperwell from killing his brother out of blind rage. Nymrina was called, she healed Rusty enough to get him out of there, and that’s when Rusty left the estate. He didn’t want to, but now he knew he had to go. Copperwell was in a very bad place for a long time after that, spiraling with guilt and anger etc. over Rusty leaving him, but compassionate Marax stayed with him for a while and helped him calm down after a couple of months. Those two also have a history… but it’s super complicated for right now. Oh also Copperwell has asthma that started acting up a little while before this, which has threatened his life a couple of times as well.

So then Rusty, while recovering emotionally for a while in Nymrina’s patient care, now lives with her in her new, humble, healing clinic in Booty Bay. They’re super happy together even with some rough spots in their relationship, as any has. And Copperwell slowly was able to apologize enough to the two of them for what he’d done, that they forgave him and visit him every once in a while, and they’re on good terms now. Nymrina helped Copperwell finally let go of some pain and grief over Maxine by allowing him to speak with her spirit one last time, which meant the world to him and changed him for the better. Since then, he’s finally bounced back and become himself again (minus the overly callous abuse, but maintaining his cocky/violent attitude) all with the help of Marax and Dredgewick–the death knight who replaced Rusty as Copperwell’s lackey and bodyguard. After more things happened, those two started dating and they’re finally doing pretty well after some confusion, arguments, and perilous situations.

Aaaand that’s where they are currently, omitting many many parts of the story (trust me this really is a summary lol), but there’s also quite a few other stories as part of the same roleplay with different characters who are all connected to each other in some way. I’m pretty sure I didn’t miss any huge plot points here… so that’s like a 2,000-3,000 page story summed up to a few paragraphs, heh. I really hope it’s not too much of a read for you, thank you so so much for asking about them and for waiting for my answer! I really appreciate it and I’m always happy to talk about them! I definitely hope this is who you were asking about.

#rusty #copperwell #story #rp #long post

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lukas-crying-heart · 3 years ago

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Days Without Bruno part four

This one is a little all over the place.

also another two year skip, Neomi is 15 in this one, please enjoy.

It had been a few years since that family discussion, Neomi had found out what Abuela wanted to tell the rest of the family without her or Bee there, it made her a little angry when she found out but she had decided it was worth a try.

But things were getting complicated, she kept sneaking out to take walks with a girl, she was very pretty, and she was actually on one of those late night walks now.

“Are you sure we won’t get caught?”

Her voice took her out of her thoughts, her name was Angela.

“Yes I’m sure, everyone is asleep at this time anyway”

Angela was the same age as her, she had long blonde hair and a small amount of freckles, hazel eyes, she was a very kind and caring person.

“I know but what if your cousin hears us?” Angela looked back at Casita

“She’s asleep I promise” Neomi held Angela’s hands in hers and looked in her eyes “everyone is asleep, no one is gonna catch us I promise” she smiled

Angela took one of her hands away from Neomi and put it on her cheek, moving her hair away from her eye a little “I’m happy we’re able to see each other, I really like hanging out with you”

Neomi sighed happily and started walking to the lake, their usually spot, only for them.

“Y’know the way the moon reflects off of your hair makes it look silver” Angela said, she was laying on her side looking at Neomi as they both laid down on the blanket they kept there.

“Yeah? You think so?” Neomi rolled over onto her side as well, once again they were looking into each other’s eyes

“I do, it’s beautiful, you’re beautiful..”

Neomi felt her face became bright red

“Oh, really? You think I’m beautiful?” She sat up and turned her head away from Angela, a bit embarrassed.

“Yes of course I do” Angela sat up too and put her hand on Neomi’s shoulder “I really do think you’re beautiful”

Neomi brought her knees to her chest and smiled.

Angela moved so she was sitting in front of Neomi.

“I really like you Neomi” she moved a little closer “a lot actually”

Neomi didn’t know what to say.

“I love you”

Neomi remained silent, she was shocked.

Angela got closer and Neomi looked at her with big eyes.

“I..think I like you too..” Neomi mumbled

“I really want to kiss you” Angela said and got a little closer.

Neomi leaned closer “okay” her voice was barely more than a whisper.

Angela put her hand on Neomi’s cheek again and pulled her into a kiss, nothing had ever felt so right in her life.

It was amazing and as Neomi put her hand on the back of Angela’s neck to pull her closer and deeper into the kiss they heard a quiet giggle which was met with a “shh!”

Neomi immediately stopped kissing Angela and stood up, she was horrified, what if it was Isabela? What if it was Dolores? What if it was Camilo? Oh dios this was bad.

“Hey! Who’s there?! Come out!” Angela had stepped in front of Neomi a little and was holding her hand.

There was no response from whoever was hiding.

“Angela..” Neomi held her hand a little tighter and grabbed her arm with her other hand, holding onto it.

“Come out right now!” Angela yelled again

“Fiiine” Camilo groaned and came out from behind a large rock with Bee right behind him, Mirabel behind Bee.

“What do you think you guys are you doing?! Why did you follow us?!” Angela sounded angry but she was just as scared as Neomi in that moment.

“Oh calm down, no need to shout” Camilo walked over with his hands in the pockets of his pants

“Why did you follow us?” She asked again

Before Camilo could answer Mirabel came running over “we wanted to see why Neomi was up so late, and why she was sneaking out with a girl” she giggled and it was obvious that the giggle earlier had been her “you two are in love!”

Neomi blushed.

“Ah you’re definitely in love” Camilo smiled teasingly “young love” he sighed “ay Bee what do you think about all this hm? Quite adorable wouldn’t you agree?“

“I don’t really care, as long as Neomi is happy” Bee smiled.

“Ugh how boring” Camilo groaned.

“You won’t tell Abuela right?” Neomi asked, staring at her brother and cousins.

“No of course we won’t tell, we would never tell anyone I swear!” Bee assured Neomi “our lips are sealed”

“Yeah, not a soul will know until you want” Camilo’s smile turned from teasing to reassuring and he nudged Mirabel “right Mira?”

“Yes of course, consider it forgotten” she smiled.

Neomi sighed in relief but she was still worried, Mirabel was not always good at keeping secrets, especially when Abuela pressured her to tell her.

“Did anyone see you guys leave?” Neomi asked and stepped forward

“Nope! We’re very sneaky” Camilo patted her back “but we should head back soon before anyone notices we’re gone”

“He’s right..” Neomi looked back at Angela who nodded

“Tomorrow night then?” Angela hugged her

“Definitely” Neomi responded and stepped away from Angela, the warmth of the hug quickly faded.

With a small nod to Camilo, Bee and Mirabel Angela walked away back to the town.

“Thank you guys, I-“

“-Yeah yeah we’re the best, the best cousins and brother you could ask for, really. No need to thank us” Camilo sighed.

Neomi chuckled “come on let’s go” she started walking back, she still had some anxiety about someone knowing about Angela.

“Hey it’s okay, we promise we won’t tell anyone” Bee was walking beside her and could see she was anxious.

“You know Mira isn’t good at keeping secrets!” Neomi whispered “the moment Abuela says something about the miracle she’ll tell her everything and you know it”

“She won’t tell anyone, she’s getting better at secrets” he whispered back.

Suddenly a large shadow fell upon the group.

“What on earth are you guys doing out so late?” It was Luisa “you guys really shouldn’t be out this late”

Camilo quickly stepped to the front of the group “well why are you out here hm?” He responded.

“Following you guys of course”

“We were going for a walk to the lake then going back” Neomi said quickly, pushing Camilo aside “we couldn’t sleep”

“Okay, come on hurry up and go back then” Luisa started leading the way back, glancing back at them every few seconds “you guys are quiet all of a sudden, what’s up? Is something wrong?” She slowed her pace to walk next to them

“Oh nothing really, just uh…” Neomi looked at the ground and rubbed her cheek where Angela had put her hand.

“Whatever it is you can tell me”

“I..am just tired is all” she walked faster “let’s just hurry up”

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Another few months had passed since the night Camilo, Bee and Mirabel had caught her with Angela, now she usually asked Bee to come when she went to meet up with her to make sure no one had followed them.

She hadn’t thought of the new kids in town for months, she couldn’t quite remember the name of the girl either which was fine, she was happy and couldn’t talk to them even if she wanted to with that rule Abuela had made.

Today Alonso had taken her to the river, they were sitting on the bridge together, looking at the glittering water that passed underneath.

“Neomi, what’s going on with you lately? You’ve been distant” he sighed

“What? No I haven’t, I’ve just been busy that’s all” she brought one of her knees up to her chest and smiled at him “you know I have a lot of house work to do with Agustin and Felix during the day”

Alonso scooted closer “just tell me what’s wrong, you never used to keep things from me”

Neomi felt bad for him, she had been keeping some things from him, but he doesn’t need to know everything.

“I just have been going for walks at the lake at night, no big deal” she shrugged and glanced away for a moment and saw Angela, she was staring at her and Alonso.

Alonso put his knuckle on her chin and made her look at him and before she knew it he was kissing her, it was nothing like the ones with Angela.

It was demanding and controlling, but she didn’t even try to stop him, she even kissed him back which only seemed to make him want more. He put his hand on her hip and slightly pushed her backward.

He stopped and looked at her “I love you Neomi, you just have to be with me and we can be happy..” he smiled and entwined his fingers with hers.

She didn’t know what to say, Angela was watching her, it seemed everyone in the whole town was watching her, judging her.

She saw Agustin out of the corner of her eye, he had said he would come get her when he was gone doing some shopping, she wanted nothing more than for him to come get her right now.

“What’s wrong?” Alonso put his other hand on the back of her head and brought her face closer again “don’t you love me?” His breath was hot on her face.

“Of course I love you! I just-“

Alonso kissed her again, silencing anything she was about to say.

She looked at Agustin and silently begged him to step in.

Alonso stopped kissing her again “we should go back to my house, mi amor” he whispered, slowly moving his hand up from her hip to her waist and stopping right below her chest.

“O-okay” she mumbled.

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Mirabel was quickly walking through Casita, she would have to make something for Neomi and Angela, something cute, she would probably ask Agustin for help.

This was all very exciting, she was very much looking forward to the time when Neomi was ready to tell the family about this.

She was so distracted that she didn’t notice when Abuela turned a corner, she walked right into her and made them both stumble back.

“Oh Abuela! I’m sorry, I wasn’t-“

Abuela cut her off

“-You have something on your mind, you’ve been thinking about something for a few days. You know keeping secrets could hurt the miracle”

Mirabel always broke under that phrase.

“I can’t tell, it would make me a bad cousin if I told you..”

“Mirabel tell me, whatever it is can’t be that bad, remember the miracle, what if poor Antonio doesn’t get a gift because you keep secrets?”

Mirabel looked at the ground, she didn’t even know if secrets would do anything, she didn’t know anything about it but what if she was right?

“I-I-“

“Mirabel tell me, if you tell me it’ll be okay”

Mirabel took a deep breath

“Neomi has been sneaking out..and last night me, Camilo and Bee followed her and we we saw her with the Lopez girl” she already felt guilty “they looked very happy together, they were..um…” she looked up at Abuela, she had definitely made a mistake in telling her.

Abuela started to walk away.

“No! Abuela wait! I’m sure she didn’t mean anything by it-“

Abuela cut her off

“-you did the right thing, I’ll talk to Neomi about this…disgraceful behavior when she returns”

Mirabel’s heart dropped, she ruined everything for her, maybe even for Bee and Camilo too.

“Just stay away from her until I can talk to her”

Mirabel stood there in the hallway for many moments.

Stay away from Neomi, she can do that.

No problem.

Easy.

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Day #208/365: Another of my #portraitsofnewfriends ~ Neomi served up the pizza a few days ago and admired my camera. I asked her if she was a photographer, and she answered “I wish…”

Don’t give up on a dream to create, friend!

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cringycrisis · 2 months ago

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Ok I have a question for Kid's parents, I was looking at them closer in their text of who they were. Has Kid's mom been in the timeloops? Is the time loop ability something hereditary?

Because I had interpreted as something Kid was born with in my au and was chosen and I noticed that little detail.

A bit of a spoiler for Loopty Loop (not much, just a little reveal), Charity does have time loop abilities. However, she got her abilities later in life compared to her children (she got them in middle school, while all four of her kids got them in elementary school).

Her situation was more similar to Kid's, where it was like groundhogs day. She also had the fun hassle of needing to do missions to break the cycle.

Like her younger son, Charity had a friend who also knew about the time loops! Sadly, at near the end of high school, they had a falling out during the later part of their senior year. Charity hasn't spoken to her since that day.

#my art #kindergarten oc #kindergarten au #loopty loop #loopty loop au #charity moretti #neomy answers

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corneliusreignallen · 6 years ago

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The Trump lawsuit testing the limits of presidential immunity, explained

President Donald Trump (R) puts his hand on Supreme Court Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s shoulder during his ceremonial swearing in in the East Room of the White House October 08, 2018 in Washington, DC. | Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Trump v. Mazars is the biggest presidential immunity case since the Nixon administration.

On Monday, Chief Justice John Roberts handed President Trump a small victory in what could be the most important presidential immunity case since the Nixon administration.

Trump v. Mazars USA involves Trump’s effort to escape a House subpoena seeking many of his financial documents. Roberts temporarily halted enforcement of that subpoena to give the Supreme Court more time to consider whether to grant Trump a lengthier stay or lower court decisions saying the subpoena may be enforced. (As the “circuit justice” overseeing cases that arise from a DC federal appeals court, Roberts has the power to issue a brief stay while the Court is considering whether to hand down a much longer one).

Existing law is very bad for Trump in this case. It’s very clear under decades of Supreme Court precedents that the House can enforce this subpoena. So the stakes in Mazars are high. If Trump does prevail before the justices, that decision could inaugurate a new era of presidential immunity from oversight.

Last May, a federal judge held that the House Oversight Committee may enforce a subpoena seeking many of Trump’s financial documents — including, most likely, his tax forms — from Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars USA. The committee says it seeks these documents as part of an inquiry into whether stricter financial disclosure laws are needed, although it is likely (as Trump’s lawyers suggest in their brief) that the committee also wants the documents because they will offer a window into corrupt dealings by the president.

Trump has fought hard to convince appeals courts that the House cannot obtain these documents — or, at least, that it cannot obtain them right now — and the subpoena remains unenforced.

That could change soon, however, assuming that the Supreme Court decides to apply the same rules to this subpoena that it applied to politically-charged subpoenas in the past. As the Supreme Court explained in United States v. Nixon (1974), the case that required President Richard Nixon to turn over incriminating tape recordings that ended his presidency, “neither the doctrine of separation of powers, nor the need for confidentiality of high-level communications, without more, can sustain an absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege of immunity from judicial process under all circumstances.”

But it’s far from clear that this Supreme Court agrees with the ruling in Nixon — or, at least, that this Court’s Republican majority believes that cases like Nixon should be applied to President Trump.

Trump’s latest addition to the Court, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, suggested in 1999 that Nixon was “wrongly decided” (though he later praised Nixon during his Supreme Court confirmation hearing, saying that he viewed it as a sign of judicial independence). Three lower court judges, all Republicans, also voted in Trump’s favor in various lower court proceedings.

So there’s a real chance that Trump could prevail in the Republican-controlled Supreme Court — and if he does prevail, that could be a legal earthquake. The Supreme Court’s precedents point in one direction: Congress has a broad oversight power, and presidents are not above the law. Mazars could change all of that.

Mazars, moreover, is just one example of Trump seeking extraordinary legal immunity. In a closely related case, Trump v. Vance, where a New York prosecutor seeks Trump’s financial documents, Trump’s lawyer argued that a sitting president is immune from criminal investigation if the president shoots someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue. (Trump’s lawyers also asked the Supreme Court to hear the Vance case, but it’s unlikely that the Court will weigh in on that request before it decides whether to grant a stay in Mazars.)

If the Supreme Court buys Trump’s arguments, in other words, Trump could potentially gain the kind of legal immunity more commonly associated with despots than with elected officials. At the very least, decisions in Trump’s favor would signal that the Court is inclined to give Trump far more favorable treatment than it gave to past presidents.

Trump’s legal arguments are exceedingly weak

Under longstanding Supreme Court precedent, Congress’s power to conduct oversight and issue subpoenas is quite broad. As the Court explained in Eastland v. United States Servicemen’s Fund (1975), Congress’s investigatory power extends broadly to subpoenas “intended to gather information about a subject on which legislation may be had.”

Both the trial court and the intermediate appeals court ruled that the Mazars subpoena was properly issued under this broad power because the House is considering legislation that would impose stronger financial disclosure requirements on the president, and the records sought by the House Oversight Committee could inform whether such legislation is necessary.

In response, Trump’s lawyers argue that the real purpose of this subpoena isn’t to inform the legislative process at all. It’s to determine whether Trump “broke the law.” Much of their argument echoes a dissenting opinion by Judge Neomi Rao, a Trump appointee, who claims that “the Constitution provides only one way for Congress to investigate illegal conduct by the President,” and that’s an impeachment inquiry.

This is the kind of distinction that only the most persnickety lawyer could love. While there was no formal impeachment investigation going on when the Mazars subpoena was initially issued, there is one now. So what’s the point of an argument about whether the House was engaged in a legitimate legislative process if it is free to get these documents as part of an impeachment inquiry?

The most likely answer to this question, however, is delay. If the Supreme Court buys Rao’s argument, that could force the House to reissue the subpoena as part of its impeachment inquiry, and then wait months or even years while the case winds its way through the courts again. By that point, the case could be moot.

Alternatively, Trump’s lawyers also argue that the subpoena is invalid because the “full House” did not vote to specifically give the House Oversight Committee the power to issue this particular subpoena. Again, this is the kind of argument that serves only to delay. If the Supreme Court buys this argument, the House can just hold such a vote — but that could also reset the litigation clock and allow Trump to delay the case into oblivion.

Beyond these two legal arguments, Trump’s lawyers also offer a political argument why the Court should rule in Trump’s favor. The justices should favor Trump in order to fight “the temptation to dig up dirt on political rivals.” Mazars, they claim, is “a case of firsts.” It is the “first time Congress has subpoenaed the personal records of a President that predate his time in office” and “the first time Congress has issued a subpoena, under its legislative powers, to investigate the President for illegal conduct.”

That may very well be true, but it’s far from clear why any of these claims that Mazars is unprecedented should matter legally. The Supreme Court held in Clinton v. Jones (1997) that a sitting president may be sued “based on actions allegedly taken before his term began.” And there was never a serious legal argument that the Senate Watergate hearings were unconstitutional. Mazars is distinct from past presidential investigations in superficial ways, but it is unclear why any of those distinctions have legal significance.

Indeed, to the extent that Mazars is distinguishable from prior investigations into past presidents, those distinctions cut against Trump. As the Court explained in Jones, “We have never suggested that the President, or any other official, has an immunity that extends beyond the scope of any action taken in an official capacity.” The fact that the House seeks records unrelated to Trump’s presidency cuts against Trump.

So current law is very clear that Congress may issue these subpoenas. The open question is whether the current Supreme Court believes that this law should apply to President Trump.

The Supreme Court could hand Trump a big victory without ever ruling on the merits of this case

The immediate question facing the Supreme Court is whether to stay the lower appeals court’s decision against Trump. On Friday, Trump’s lawyers formally sought such a stay from the Supreme Court. Then, on Monday, Chief Justice Roberts temporarily halted enforcement of the subpoena while he and his colleagues consider whether to grant a longer stay. He also ordered the House to respond to Trump’s request for a stay by Thursday afternoon.

That means we will likely find out next week if the Supreme Court will grant a lengthy stay. If the Court does grant it, that would prevent the House Oversight Committee from enforcing its subpoena until after the Supreme Court decides whether to hear the case on the merits — and most likely until after the Court hands down a full decision on the merits.

Should the Court decide to hear the case, it’s possible that a decision could come as soon as next June. It’s also possible that the case could be pushed to next term — which would almost certainly delay final resolution of the case until after the election.

Indeed, if the Court grants a stay and then sits on its hands, we may never get a Supreme Court decision telling us if the Mazars subpoena can be enforced. If Trump wins the 2020 election, gerrymandering and Trump’s coattails are likely to sweep Republicans into power in the House — and then House Republicans can simply cancel the subpoena themselves.

Should the Court grant the stay, moreover, the majority is unlikely to publish an opinion explaining why they did so. Stay requests are typically disposed of in brief orders, although those orders sometimes are accompanied by dissenting opinions.

Trump’s request for a stay, in other words, is an example of what University of Chicago law professor William Baude refers to as the Supreme Court’s “shadow docket” — a potentially very consequential decision that is decided without opinion, explanation, or any impact on the Court’s prior precedents.

If the Court’s Republican majority wants to rule in favor of Trump, but save itself from the awkward task of explaining why precedents like Nixon shouldn’t control this case, they could potentially hand Trump a quiet, unexplained victory simply by granting the stay and then delaying resolution of the case until the next term.

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themorrignasystem · 5 months ago

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If you had to pick, to whomever answers this ask:

Are you goober or crechure?

neomi here:

why not both?

but def creachure

#neomi #themorrigæsystem #anon ask

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timalexanderdollery · 6 years ago

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The Trump lawsuit testing the limits of presidential immunity, explained

Trump v. Mazars is the biggest presidential immunity case since the Nixon administration.

On Monday, Chief Justice John Roberts handed President Trump a small victory in what could be the most important presidential immunity case since the Nixon administration.

Trump has fought hard to convince appeals courts that the House cannot obtain these documents — or, at least, that it cannot obtain them right now — and the subpoena remains unenforced.

Trump’s legal arguments are exceedingly weak

So current law is very clear that Congress may issue these subpoenas. The open question is whether the current Supreme Court believes that this law should apply to President Trump.

The Supreme Court could hand Trump a big victory without ever ruling on the merits of this case

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shanedakotamuir · 6 years ago

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The Trump lawsuit testing the limits of presidential immunity, explained

Trump v. Mazars is the biggest presidential immunity case since the Nixon administration.

On Monday, Chief Justice John Roberts handed President Trump a small victory in what could be the most important presidential immunity case since the Nixon administration.

Trump has fought hard to convince appeals courts that the House cannot obtain these documents — or, at least, that it cannot obtain them right now — and the subpoena remains unenforced.

Trump’s legal arguments are exceedingly weak

So current law is very clear that Congress may issue these subpoenas. The open question is whether the current Supreme Court believes that this law should apply to President Trump.

The Supreme Court could hand Trump a big victory without ever ruling on the merits of this case

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plusorminuscongress · 6 years ago

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New story in Politics from Time: House of Representatives Investigating Whether President Trump Lied to Mueller, Lawyer Says

(WASHINGTON) — The House of Representatives’ top lawyer told a federal appeals court Monday that the House is investigating whether President Donald Trump lied to special counsel Robert Mueller, and the attorney urged the judges to order the release of still-secret material from Mueller’s investigation.

Two of the three judges who heard arguments at the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit — Judith Rogers, a Clinton appointee, and Thomas Griffith, an appointee of George W. Bush — seemed prepared to order at least some of the material sought by the House to be turned over.

House General Counsel Douglas Letter told the judges that the need for the still-secret material redacted from the Mueller report is “immense” because it will help House members answer the question, “Did the president lie? Was the president not truthful in his responses to the Mueller investigation?” in his written responses to the probe.

The House Judiciary Committee is seeking grand jury testimony and other details redacted from the public version of Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Read more: How Trump Is Using the Mueller Report to Reshape Washington’s Balance of Power

Last month a judge ordered the Justice Department to turn over the redacted material, but the Trump administration appealed. Whatever the appeals panel decides, the case is likely headed to the Supreme Court.

Griffith suggested that the House had a particular need for the material since the Mueller report ultimately left it to Congress to decide whether Trump had obstructed the Mueller probe.

But a third judge, Trump appointee Neomi Rao, seemed more sympathetic to the Justice Department’s arguments against releasing the information. She questioned whether the courts should get involved in any way in a dispute over impeachment between the legislative and executive branches.

Justice Department lawyers say they are barred from releasing the redacted material, in part because an impeachment inquiry does not qualify as a “judicial proceeding” under the federal law governing release of grand jury materials. Trump has called the impeachment inquiry “a witch hunt.”

Griffith, in his questioning, raised the possibility of releasing less material than what U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell called for in her Oct. 25 order. Griffith asked whether it made more sense for a judge to hold a hearing and go through each redaction in the Mueller report and hear arguments on whether Congress could articulate a particularized need for that information.

He also asked whether the information could perhaps be released on a limited basis to House staff and lawyers while the courts continue to hear arguments on the broader question of what can be fully provided to Congress.

Democrats believe the redacted information could shed light on key episodes of the investigation, including discussions Trump is reported to have had with associates about the release of stolen emails during the campaign and conversations about a 2016 Trump Tower meeting at which Trump’s eldest son expected to receive damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

In court papers, House lawyers cited one redaction that “appears to relate to grand jury evidence indicating that President Trump sought or obtained advance knowledge of WikiLeaks’s plans during the campaign” to release damaging emails related to Hillary Clinton’s campaign. In his written testimony, Trump said he had no recollection of any particular conversations about the hacked emails.

The questions about whether Trump lied in his written testimony to Mueller come as Trump tweeted Monday he might be willing to offer written testimony as part of the House impeachment inquiry.

Other redactions cited in the court papers relate to contacts members of the Trump campaign met with Ukrainian officials “and therefore may be relevant to the House’s examination of whether the President committed impeachable offenses by soliciting Ukrainian interference in the 2020 Presidential election.”

In public proceedings last week in front of the House Intelligence Committee, the impeachment inquiry focused on whether the president withheld aid from Ukraine to pressure the government there to launch a public investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

At the court hearing Monday, Griffith asked Letter whether the material sought was still relevant, given the apparent recent focus on Ukraine as opposed to the Mueller report.

“Don’t believe everything you’ve read in the press,” Letter responded.

By MATTHEW BARAKAT / AP on November 18, 2019 at 02:42PM

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