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I’m not super familiar with TSATS (have only heard secondhand things about why it sucks) but would you be willing to speak about the issues you have with it?
I'll try to keep this relatively short (future Alder: HA) and to the point, because, well...there's a lot of ground to cover. If I missed anything, or if anybody else wants to add on their own grievances, consider this your ready-made platform!
Also, if you did like TSATS, this is your warning to scroll. I respect your opinion, and simply ask you to respect mine.
In no particular order (and as they come to mind-)
Hades sends Nico to Tartarus
This makes ZERO sense because Hades was the one to BAN Nico in the first place. Furthermore, he sends Nico because he, Hades, cannot just scoop Bob out of Tartarus...but then later does just that with another character. MAJOR plot hole, and a dumb one too.
this also makes Hades the WORST godly parent btw. at least Zeus didn't send Apollo to superhell.
that moment when you're an even worse parent than Zeus...a canonical abuser...
2. Where Are The Campers
For SOME ODD REASON Nico and Will are the ONLY demigods at CHB. Only ones. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that they are the ONLY year-round campers, especially since this directly contradicts- you know, already-established canon. Austin and Kayla are both year-round campers. Damien White and Chiara Benvenuti. Billie Ng. Miranda Gardner and Sherman Yang. Harley. Cecil Markowitz. They are all year-round campers, and have been established as such since The Hidden Oracle.
There is NO WAY they ALL suddenly decided to be summer campers.
Not to mention...with some focus on Will, you'd think we'd get some attention- even a bit! - towards his siblings, right?
NOPE. AUSTIN AND KAYLA ARE OUT OF THE PICTURE RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
oh and the three newest Apollo kids- Jerry, Gracie, and Yan- just don't exist I guess. rip the new kids because THEY ARE NEVER BROUGHT UP.
3. The Tone & Pacing
Look. I know TSATS is aimed towards mainly middle schoolers. But so is the rest of the RRverse.
And you know what TSATS does that the rest of them don't?
It treats the reader in a condescending manner.
Or at least, that's what I felt. When I was reading, I got to the part where we meet the god of nightmares, and then we're suddenly hit with a PSA on gender identity and I was like "...okay. there's no need to shove it down our throats. you could have just had them correct Nico and Will without giving everyone a lecture. especially since GODS WOULDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT GENDER IN THE FIRST PLACE." <- Canon! See Apollo's return to Olympus in Tower of Nero! He says mortals have strange conceptions of gender! It's fucking canon.
There was no need for that PSA. There are much more natural ways of incorporating LGBTQ+ identities than constantly talking down to the reader. Children are not dumb. They do not need LGBTQ+ topics dumbed down to understand them. I was 12 when I first read House of Hades, and after a bit of brain buffering because I wasn't exposed to much LGBTQ+ things, I understood that Nico liked guys and not girls. I understood he was gay.
And there was no PSA needed for me to understand that. Just as there was none needed during the entire series of Trials of Apollo, narrated by our first bisexual protagonist, Apollo. The only time where it could get PSA-y is when Apollo breaks the fourth wall for a split-second to essentially tell homophobes to fuck off.
Something along the lines of- "What's that? Oh, are you wondering if I'm okay with my son dating a dude instead of a girl? HA! Of course I am lol do you know who I am."
And that's that. also solangelo fic writers who make apollo homophobic...you best stay away from me, okay? okay. i know you exist.
Magnus Chase introduces Alex Fierro without getting preachy about genderfluid or trans people. because guess what! THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE.
Plus- the RRverse books are fun reads for adults too. I'm able to reread just about any book ('just about' because of tsats now...) without feeling like I'm being treated like a 5 year old.
which was what reading tsats was like tbqh.
As for the pacing? It's. So. Slow.
tsats has 60 chapters.
HOW COME HALFWAY THROUGH - AND I COUNTED BTW - WE AREN'T EVEN IN TARTARUS?
in the words of a mutual- "I shouldn't be rooting for the gays to go to Hell already."
by this point in a normal RRverse book, we'd already be on the road, had a few near-death experiences, perhaps some actual death, character bonding and growth, ect ect.
Instead we get...whatever happened in the first half. so unimportant that i honestly don't care to remember.
but i will for this post and that will be that.
4. UwU Nico & Cardboard Will
If I haven't already pissed off the stans...I am going to now.
So. Many. Times.
So many times Nico is treated like the poorest, most tragic uwu emo boi who has suffered more than anyone else. and it's done in a very off-putting and rather irritating way.
not to mention, Will suffers as a result. He didn't feel like a person in tsats. Instead of building up a character for him, everything falls flat.
Example? Will admits he feels guilty over killing Octavian. Great! Perfect time for a character moment! Dealing with trauma-guilt! How has this affected him?
What we get? Nothing. It's not treated as any sort of trauma, and that becomes a trend in this book with Will.
Apparently, Will has not suffered. Not like Nico, the poorest of meow meows. Will has no trauma. Yes, even after fighting through two wars and stressing out over the possibility of losing his father (who he loves and adores very much) for good, Will is trauma free!! He knows nothing of suffering!! Yes, the majority of his siblings were ruthlessly slaughtered, going from 20 to 3 campers by the time of ToA, but no!! Will has no trauma!! because he's sunshine hot therapy boyfriend!!
This Will does NOT feel like the Will we met in Blood of Olympus, or like the Will in ToA. These Wills are stubborn and kind, fiercely loyal to their father, and most importantly, feels like a human being.
Which brings me to my next point...
5. The Apollo Conundrum
A couple things to say here.
Will keeps acting like he hasn't seen Apollo in forever. That he never came back after going after Python.
A complete, blatant, lie because Apollo did come back after going after Python! He was there when the fucking tsats prophecy was made in the first place!
Did Mark even read ToA. At all.
One good thing came of this, I guess. At least Apollo wasn't character assassinated, even if you could argue he was anyway because he never shows up.
A direct contradiction to where we left off in ToA.
FURTHER. you know what infuriates me?
Apollo's arc about being able to change, no matter what you've done in the past or who you are, is shoved onto Nico in a very half-assed manner.
That pissed me off. Nico did not NEED such an arc. He is VERY MUCH ACCEPTED AT CAMP. WE HAVE PROOF BECAUSE THE ORACLE OF DELPHI WAS ABLE TO MOVE ON TO RACHEL.
pardon me i need to scream.
FUCK
okay. i'm good.
...for now.
6. The 'Coming Out' Scene
oh my lord and savior jesus christ this GOT ON MY NERVES.
so on paper, sounds good right? solangelo comes out to CHB, in a positive, welcoming environment! very nice!
...EXCEPT THEY ARE ALREADY OUT AND IN A RELATIONSHIP IN TOA. THERE WAS NO NEED FOR THIS AT ALL.
not to mention just how utterly ridiculous it's handled. apparently, solangelo inspired other campers to come out- a good thing- but...
this is so laughably dumb because there is NO WAY the campers aren't all cool with the LGBTQ+ community.
wanna know why?
BECAUSE THEY CAN HAVE SAME-SEX PARENTS. HELLO KAYLA, THE OG MPREG DAUGHTER
you're gonna tell me that CHB is NOT an open environment for LGBTQ+ kids? that they did NOT normalize it? really? are you really gonna tell me that? you're gonna look me in the eyes and say that?
"but sometimes it's hard to come out even in a welcoming environment!" yeah you're right there. it can be hard to do that. and i would know. because i have done just that. was shaking in my boots when i told my mom and stepdad that i was queer. despite knowing they were both supportive of queer rights.
and yet i'm saying this anyway. IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR CHB TO NOT BE AN OPEN LGBTQ+ ENVIRONMENT. ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHO THEIR PARENTS ARE, AND THE FACT THEY CAN HAVE SAME-SEX PARENTS.
Nico was barely at camp pre-ToA. I can totally buy him not knowing CHB is pro-queer because of how little time he spent there.
BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT HE IS AT CHB FROM BOO TO THO, AND IS IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH WILL BY THO. ONE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT.
and yet...tsats thinks it's a GRAND IDEA to do this coming out scene.
again. DID MARK EVEN READ TOA?
you know what else ticks me off about this? it's that Will is made to come out...by Nico.
you know. Nico. the one that the fandom flipped out over because he was made to come out. by Cupid. who is vilified for it.
and yet. it's treated by the narrative as the Right and Good thing for Nico to do. because Nico is Always Right and Good and Knows What's Best For Will.
it drove me up the wall.
also personally i'm not a fan of bisexual will. it's used too often as a 'will cheats on nico' thing in fics, so i was already disillusioned to it, and in tsats it's really only there for will to briefly thirst over persephone for some odd reason. let us have a gay4gay couple please i am begging you. but that's a personal opinion and i get it if you like bi will. that's just my thoughts.
7. The Bob Thing
this is something that's been on my mind ever since i first heard of tsats.
Is rescuing Bob even necessary? Like...okay, from a worldbuilding perspective...what does he add? Or was all this just fanservice done to 'save' a character who, by all rights and purposes, should be double dead. worse than dead. nonexistent.
like. first of all...how did Bob end up trapped by Nyx, when he was fighting Tartarus? Tartarus who, btw, is able to disintegrate you and cause you to cease to exist. Which is what- canonically! - happens to Damasen.
I guess Bob is different? But...so is Damasen. Since they are fundamentality different from their respective brethren...shouldn't they both have been safe from Tartarus's power? And not just Bob?
Look. I like Bob. I was so sad when we lost him in HoH. But honestly?
I think bringing him back cheapens his & Damasen's sacrifice.
Not to mention...I vividly remember earlier in the book, Nico for some reason takes a pot-shot at Percabeth, assuming that they wouldn't care about Bob.
Like. Hello?? That pissed me off too because it's such a gross misjudgment of both Percy and Annabeth that I had to take a few minutes to cool off before continuing the incoming shitshow.
8. Will's Powers
another hot take alert.
I don't subscribe to Plague!Will. Fun headcanon, have read fics with it (subscribed to a really good one too, in fact), but not something I would accept as canon.
even if tsats "made it canon" (BIG quotations there)
here's the thing. Will doesn't need a Cool power to be useful. He has healing and light. Defensive abilities, good for a healer! Which is what he wants to be!
there's no need to give him an offensive ability. he managed perfectly fine without plague powers before this.
(coughs in "Nobody hits my boyfriend and nobody kills my dad!")
This also ties back into the whole 'Will doesn't have much of a character' thing. like okay, we've introduced this new ability! cool! it's a dangerous one, and the exact opposite of everything Will is. do we explore that? do we do anything worthwhile with it? perhaps we could take this as an opportunity for some father-son discussion?
Nope!
also for some reason Will can grow the Curse of Delos flowers by singing. something he has previously been established to not be very good at as far back as BoO- "I'm just a healer" and all that.
also also. that's not how the Curse of Delos works...they only grow on Delos, and around Cabin 7. no where else. magically growing flowers isn't even an Apollo kid power, and yes the Curse is Apollo's flower but that means nothing because Apollo kids don't grow flowers. that's Demeter.
sobs in so many contradictions
9. The...Cocopuffs.
groans dramatically.
first thing's first- What The Actual Fuck.
It's emphasized that the cocopuffs are Nico and Nyx's children.
Children Nico did not want.
Guys this is literally rape. This is literally rape why is it treated as a good thing??
i'm chill with them being manifestations of Nico's trauma. i'm NOT chill with this!! Or with Nico's trauma apparently being magically cured because of them, when he's, you know, our only character who canonically goes to therapy?
it feels like the help therapy can give is cheapened here.
plus...the Cacodemons (as they are actually called) are not good demons in the mythology. they are not good. at all. they are specifically evil spirits, and personally, I don't like the connotation that trauma correlates to them.
a better choice would have been a daimon, a neutral spirit. something that just Is and isn't bogged down by definitions of "evil" and "good".
also this is literally rape :) get it away from me.
10. The Retcons/Continuity Mistakes
Bianca Is Not Nico's Mom Get Your Damn Facts Right How Could You Make That Mistake It's So Dumb Like Oh My God Did You Even Do Any Reading For This-
ahem.
I will give tsats ONE point. The ONE THING I think it did right.
i know. shocking. Alder giving tsats one (1) W.
Will's mortal anchor when he fell into the River Styx.
It was Apollo. That is something I can definitely buy as canon. Will's love for Apollo is ever-present in BoO and ToA. That makes total sense for him!
(Plus, I'm glad they didn't make it Nico. cause like...come on. we already have romance with Percy & Annabeth, and we also have siblinghood with Apollo & Meg, parent & child would be the next, very cool and logical step!)
Too bad Apollo is shunted to the side in tsats and we never get to see him with Will... (oh, except in that one nightmare-induced hallucination. but that doesn't count because that's not actually Apollo. strike against you tsats.)
this is all i got. definitely not exhaustive list because i am NOT subjecting myself to reading tsats again. i will not be losing more braincells.
anywho, if anybody would like to add on their own grievances with this book, go ahead! i probs missed some.
and again. these are just my opinions/observations. this is NOT an invitation for discourse.
#anti tsats#the oracle speaks#anonymous#asked and answered#ain't tagging anything else because i am NOT inviting discourse no siree not in this house#if anybody starts anything it's a block. feel free to respectfully disagree but these are my opinions (as well as a majority of others#i've talked about this a lot with many people)#i def will not be reading the second book. i didn't waste my money on the first why would i on this one#this book ain't canon to me. there's too much egregiously wrong about it that i Will Not take it as canon#anywho. peace and love on planet earth lemme go find some things to silly the blog up a bit
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For the record I do not care how much someone's seen of a piece of media before they've decided they're a fan. It doesn't matter. They like the thing. They don't need to suffer in order to understand the thing. If they do the characterization in a way I don't like I can simply click away.
It doesn't matter.
#I spend more time watching clips and trying to put the pieces together than anything else#I eventually watched the entirety of game of thrones because I watched Daenerys Sansa and Arya clip compilations first#if someone has only seen Veilguard playthroughs I'm happy for them#spend less time gatekeeping and more time welcoming for the love of God#at a certain point in fandom I think people get restless and start griping at each other and I know I am not immune to that#but I didn't have less fun when I was reading yu yu Hakusho fanfic with like two crumbs of context#and that was at least a decade ago#so no I will not continue to follow you if you get on your high horse about this#sorry I was trying to leave that part out of it#me: I should start participating in all those tag games and contribute to fandom instead of contributing to complaining!#discourse: WHAM. WHAM. WHAM.#me: D:
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I'm wondering if my longstanding refusal to watch the 2008 Clone Wars is contributing to my utter inability to comprehend all the 'star wars is RUINED' complaints.
if I can contentedly exist refusing to acknowledge the thing that 99% of the fandom considers to be essential canon, that makes up the majority of the fanworks, art, and posts, I think you can handle disregarding one self-contained, 8 episode series that takes place a hundred years before anything else if you really want to. I really think you're going to live.
#get on my level#like i just think that you can survive ignoring this one series that has 0 bearing on anything else#if i can ignore the fucking 2008 clone wars series#and once again: i have faced more pressure to watch tcw than to do drugs#ban violation#the acolyte discourse#leave this one to the real fans casuals XD#because no it really is just the people who only pay attention to the major releases that come in complaining about it being oversaturated#and 'ruined'#i read 15 books in 3 weeks bro. you know nothing#it does occasionally complicate fic writing lol i'm often like 'goddammit is this addressed in tcw that i refuse to watch'#and i have to look it up#anyway 2003 clone wars supremacy#i keep foolishly going into the tag looking for other theories or gifs perhaps a meme -- and getting hit with STAR WARS IS RUINED FOREVER#like bros chill
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The amount of people saying blues using unfair strategy again, and are being cruel for wanting to destroy green’s base when red has destroyed green and blue bases?????
#The endless unescapable nightmare#Also im seeing way to many people talking about how roier and etoiles are annoying#It is upsetting me greatly :[ you dont deserve them#Blues so evil for going to destroy reds base while kind red has only used the bounty hunting mechanic to hunt down bad and not let#Him do anything for the entire day because their so nice#Discourse#red team neg#fandom neg#neg#qsmp fandom neg#Val haterisms#qsmp#Literally any other neg tags I need anything else?????
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if you say "trans masc ≠ trans men" only to say that transmascs can be lesbians but not trans men im going to bite you.very hard
#something i see and its annoying me#discourse#<- for filters ig. not tagging anything else because im just mildly annoyed
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Man you're kidding me.
#I don't even know what to say anymore#I've tried not posting anything negative nor something sad just to keep this blog as joyful as I can#But these news are just devastating#I hope the best for dappleduo and I hope Bad is doing well too#I wouldn't even be surprised if he takes a huge break from the qsmp#And not just Bad but also the French I hope everyone is doing well (or as well as they can be)#I don't want to linger on this too much because like I said I want this blog to be as joyful as it can be#but man.#qsmp discourse#← gonna use this cause I don't know what else to tag it with
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for disliking smalletho, traffictwt sure does like bringing it up so much huh?
this is a FAN SPACE if people want to ship something they are allowed to do what they want. if a CC is uncomfortable with the shipping content it’s up to them to block the content and don’t look it up. it’s the duty of the fans not to bring it up to the CC. we don’t make fics for the CCs (unless you do, in which case �� idk how to feel about you fgdjdgdjsgs) it’s for the FANS.
this is apparently very hard to understand. by bringing it up time and time again, you’re only making the CC more uncomfortable.
i need to get my ass off twitter, what a horrible space to be in man. can’t wait for the people to find me and send me horrible dms over block people. anyways this has been my opinion over useless drama <3
#astro talks#discourse#shipping discourse#twitter discourse#not tagging anything else because i dont care but i had to give my two cents
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biting my tongue so hard not to get into discourse rn.
#pls tag anything to do with a//3 with 'cosmo dont look' pls or else i may blow a socket and i'd rather not get involved in discourse#because i Know anything i'd have to say would be misinterpreted
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OH I was JUST talking to @fuukonomiko about this the other day!
Basically it's my reading of this that Mizu saw themself as the man on the right (who is clean-shaven, more youthful/feminine and softer in appearance, resembling a wakashu, and also more similar in appearance to Mizu themself).
That would then put Taigen in parallel with the man in the middle (who, it's important to note, is a samurai whose skills Mizu had admired and been impressed by, earlier in this same episode; and this is notable because in the episode right before this, Mizu genuinely complimented and admired Taigen's swordsmanship in a similar way).
So in this scene, the samurai (Taigen) turns away from kissing a woman (possibly paralleling Akemi), to instead kiss the man on the right (Mizu).
Seeing this, Mizu is reminded of their own desires and attraction towards Taigen, thus implying that Mizu sees a chance that Taigen would want them the same way that samurai wants the wakashu-like man.
Thus, in conclusion: gay samurais, your honour ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
what did they mean by this?
#they/them for mizu in this post because i can hee hee#to answer your question in the tags OP: mizu and taigen are yaoi-adjacent and this scene is proof. thank you i rest my case#im only half joking btw#also feel free to disagree. this is only my own interpretation. peace and love ✌🏻#blue eye samurai#fandom.rtf#taimizu#please dont start mizu gender discourse on this post btw...... for mine AND op's peace of mind#if you need to make a rant about how mizu is a woman and we're not allowed to interpret her as anything else....make your own post#thank you <3#meta dissertations.pdf#soooorta#peer review and addendums.pdf
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need to stop looking at fandom crit tags what am i doingggg
#just making myself irrationally angry at people with stupid opinions but im not eloquent enough to say something smart back <3#if i have to read that ed is an abuser ONE MORE TIME.#anyway . im actually so sad that the ofmd fandom is so decidedly split in 2#i hate that theres sooo much fucking discourse going on all the time it really just makes me sad more than anything else#im actually. this sounds insane but im glad to be watching wtfock again#because basically no one else is ajdjskkf and it's so quiet in the tag#like yeah my gifsets only get <50 notes but so did my ofmd ones lmao#s.txt
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"how dare Sabrina do this album cover in the current political climate" do you not see how getting this outraged at a sexually charged photo is in fact very conservative and a symptom of the current political climate? I've read dirtier things on ao3. Hell I've written dirtier things on ao3. It's really not that scandalous.
"it's the same thing as those ads in the 50s that degraded women she's setting us back decades" she doesn't actually owe us a perfect critical gender theory essay on every album cover but it's also not the same?? The man is faceless she's center stage it's her sexuality on display not his desire. Also, and this is so fucking important, Sabrina is not just consenting she's the author of this. This is has nothing to do with women being forced on all fours to sell a car, this is a woman staging a fantasy with some anonymous body that happens to look male. I don't actually know if she means it a satire or just as a healthy expression of her sexuality and I'm not gonna project my own shit to pretend to know her intentions, but either way if you see it as degrading you're the one degrading her.
"if men enjoy it then she's pandering to them men are gonna enjoy men are gonna use it to degrade us" girl men have been known to "enjoy" anything from animals to babies, are you gonna accuse little girls of pandering to the male gaze? Men have been sexualising and degrading women whether they're covered head to toe or buck ass naked. But what you're saying sounds suspiciously like rape culture, so maybe check your own damn self on that.
"she's been using the lolita aesthetic she was never a feminist" she's been performing in full on lingerie what do you mean lolita? Just because she's short and hot doesn't make her a lolita have any of you actually read lolita??? Lolita is a twelve year old described by Humbert as being skinny boyish looking and her youth and innocence and lack of sexuality is what entices him the most about her. I beg you to stop associating lolita with sensuality and lingerie and bows and pink and to start actually reading books and if you have in fact read the book and fallen for the "nymphet" épitaphe Humbert gave her and ignored literally everything else then you're dumb and you need to stay out of every discourse ever until the end of time.
"if an incel would hang it in his bedroom then you've failed" let me tel you a story from the time a guy I went to school with watched a hijabi woman walk by and told me "I find hijab so sexy cause it's like she's teasing me and wants me to imagine what's underneath it" there's nothing you can do to make men or incels not desire you but you're choosing to attack women for it thinking you're better than that incel when you're literally just repackaging slut shaming.
Following the Sabrina tag and listening o her music means the algorithm is bombarding me with such rancid takes about her now that the general public has decided it's time to knock her down a peg and they're assigning morality to them just disliking her like just say you don't like her and stop listening to her it is that easy but don't use it to perpetuate even more misogyny. It doesn't make you sound smarter it makes you sound like a radfem and I mean that with all disrespect.
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What I think I find most disgusting about 'menstruation as a signal of motherhood' is the fact that largely, we don't even think that way about animals.
Greedy/shitty people and shitty backyard breeders aside, we actually take more care to ensure that animals aren't bred before they're physically sound to be than we do people. Its even considered neglect and in some locations outright abuse to breed an animal before its 'feasibly sound to bear and birth' young.
My neighbour actually had her French bulldog taken away from her because it seasoned young and she had it bred straight away. It was far, far too small and young to bear puppies without serious risk and complication and her vet clinic reported her for neglect and puppy-farming.
YEAH???? And like. It doesn’t make any sense to me how somebody can genuinely believe that that’s all it takes to safely carry a pregnancy to term. You don’t have to go to medical school or have a degree to know this, I’m sure as shit not a genius, I’ve just listened to people’s experiences with being pregnant and giving birth. The human body is fucking weird, things happen all the time, just because you’re born with one set of organs doesn’t mean you’re good to go and won’t have any problems. There’s all kinds of complications that can occur, there are people capable of getting pregnant who will never be able to carry a pregnancy to term, there are people who can get pregnant but giving birth could cause significant damage to their physical or mental health, or outright cost them their lives. I find it absolutely insane when people try to say that having a period or having a uterus means you were meant to get pregnant, meant to give birth, as if that means fucking anything when the human body is simply unpredictable, and even if somebody is capable of doing so without issue, they should never have to unless it’s their decision. I try very, very hard to understand where other people are coming from, especially when I disagree with them, not because it will change my mind but just because I want to understand their point of view better, but this feels nearly impossible to me because I can’t understand how people would believe this when there is so much factual evidence that proves otherwise.
#discourse tw#pregnancy tw#miscarriage tw#animal abuse tw#I just want to tag for anything up there that could be uncomfortable#in general this shit makes me lose my mind because to me#it’s very easy to read medical and scientific evidence and draw conclusions from there#it’s very easy to hear people’s personal stories and draw conclusions from that#so I cannot understand people who seem to WANT to remain ignorant#I love minding my own business and not caring what other people do with themselves#so I can’t understand people who think that everyone else should live by their religious beliefs#and I think there’s an extra layer of frustration because what set me off was from someone I used to be friends with#and it has driven me insane wondering#were they always like this????#the topic didn’t come up a lot but it DID come up#were they sitting there fucking seething??? disgusted at our beliefs on the matter? but kept quiet about it?#or were they normal and smth happened after we stopped talking????#I can’t comprehend how the person I was friends with#can say a ten year old child should have to give birth#how they can agree that if a child has started their period their body is ready to carry a child#it’s heartbreaking and disgusting and I am so so confused and there is nothing to do#but be angry I guess#I can’t stop thinking of the video I saw#of the woman from Texas testifying about the harm the abortion bans caused to her#I think about it once a day it feels like and it was god awful#I can’t imagine being so heartless that you think she should have to go through that suffering#because of /your/ beliefs#anonymous
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The Writeup
Thanks for the interest! As promised, I've come out of retirement for one (1) day to do this writeup about the intense things going on in the Nezha 2 fandom.
Once more, this is NOT about the people who happened to watch the movie, the people who are just interested in box office stats, the people who really enjoyed the movie, or the people who just really admire Nezha. This will be about the fandom fandom, the truly invested, the elaborate fanons behind certain ships that will make you go "wait what?", the rabid Ao Guang discourse that will also make you go "wait what?," the brainrot (affectionate) in its purest unfiltered form. This is a post about brainrot for those also suffering from brainrot.
This is a collection of patterns mainly from lofter, but also from douyin, weibo, bilibili, and xhs (I'm grouping everyone together because most artists/authors repost to multiple sites or have their content shared on multiple sites, so everyone ends up looking at the same things if they follow the relevant tags on each site). I didn't filter out or blacklist a single tag. I stared directly into the sun to collect this information!
Disclaimer: I genuinely have no idea how to warn for some of the things mentioned here, so just a blanket note of caution- if you click "read more," you are prepared to read about anything and everything. If you are OK with all this, then- let's go! 命由我不由天!
The movie has been out in China in for roughly 3 weeks. In those 3 weeks, all of this has happened in the deepest layers of fandom.
General patterns:
I can't speak for other site stats, but at least on Lofter, Nezha/Ao Bing as a ship is #1 and #2 trending (as Oubing and Bingzha respectively) out of all fandoms and topics on Lofter. But curiously, Ao Guang (#8 trending) and Shen Gongbao (#9 trending) are more popular as individual characters than Nezha and Ao Bing. The latter is noteworthy because Shen Gong Gong's tag was pretty barren circa 2019.
Some Oubing fans have decided that they don't have enough oubing content so they've started shipping Oubing.... from the 1979 movie. This is also in the top 10 trending. Their inspiration comes from this advert.
Ao Guang vocally disapproves of his son dating Nezha, but he can't do anything about it. The real victim here!
Any pairing you can think of exists. Any pairing.
Character/Reader fics exist for everyone in the main cast except Wuliang Shenweng and Taiyi Zhenren
There's a vibrant self-shipping community again for everyone except Wuliang and Taiyi
Lots of M-preg
CEO Ao Guang is common in modern AUs
Nezha is usually in his powered up form in Oubing/Bingzha content, but in his gremlin form in content focused on anyone else
Lots of "The characters themselves react to watching the movie!" type of stories
Shiji Niang Niang has been shipped with both Taiyi Zhenren and Shen Gongbao. The latter has spawned a meme. There's a comic I won't repost because I don't know who the original artist is, but it's very powerful. It goes like this:
SGB: "Prejudice is like a mountain in people's hearts-" SNN: "So I exist in everyone's hearts? That's beautiful <3"
"Lady Yin LIVES!" AUs aplenty
Wuliang's nickname is "Evil Peach"
Lots and lots and Lots of Shen Gongbao whump
Ao Guang has been separately interpreted as a daddy dom, a malewife, an old guy TM, a himbo, and a baby girl AND as all of those things all at once
Ao Run and Ao Bing are the only dragons considered to be smart
Shen Gongbao tends to have very low self-worth. This comes from a 2019 Jiaozi interview where he directly says our leopard lacks confidence
Any AU you can think of: modern AUs, mafia AUs, republican era AUs, actor AUs, musician AUs, wuxia AUs, this one AU where the Ao family are American senators for no reason, omegaverse, and so on
Lots of Journey to the West (a lot of Black Myth specific ones especially) and FSYY crossovers
There's a meme about the real Lu Tong using his antlers to attack people in their dreams if they dare make sexual content of him because someone who made "bottom" Lu Tong content claimed they were attacked by him in a dream. Others took this to mean that he only attacks if you make him a bottom. People who interpret him as a "top" claim that they won the lottery and their lives are going great.
Ao Guang and Shen Gongbao are usually on a first name basis. Ao Guang calls Shen Gonbao 公豹兄 (Gongbao Xiong, "Brother Gongbao") and Shen Gongbao calls him "Ao Guang" directly. This is sort-of canon because this is how they address each other in 敖丙传 "The Tale of Ao Bing/Aobing Zhuan". for those who ship it, their ship name is 龙王豹 (longwangbao/ dragon king leopard) *Keep Aobing Zhuan in mind. This will be important towards the wildest part of this writeup.
Now for the elaborate fanon lore behind two specific ships that seemingly came out of nowhere. Everyone knows about oubing, but what about the other popular ships out there? They're absolutely wild, but- HEAR THEM OUT.
DiLong:
This one has its origins from the first movie. 地笼 AKA "Prison Cage/Emperor Dragon." It's a ship based on Tiandi (Emperor of Heaven) x Ao Guang. The Di in "emperor" is pronounced the same as ground "di," which is also the first character that makes up the word "prison." And "long" (dragon) is pronounced the same way as cage (also "long"), hence the ship name.
Some time after Ne Zha (2019) came out, someone pulled out one of Ao Guang's lines and ran with it. It's a quote where he essentially says that even though the dragon clan was loyal to heaven and its emperor, the heavens betrayed and imprisoned them in the sea anyway. This section of fans took this to mean that Tiandi charmed Ao Guang on false pretenses, took advantage of Ao Guang's love for him, and then left him to rot in the eastern sea... after impregnating him with 1-3 kids. And this changed Ao Guang from an innocent beauty into a resentful dragon desperate for vengeance.
Things of note about dilong:
Tiandi 天帝 is NOT the Jade Emperor (Yu Di). Their mythos overlap, but the Emperor of Heaven is considered the supreme ruler of Everything in the universe while the Jade Emperor rules over the three realms. So Tiandi ranks higher than the Jade Emperor. (But he's also a more obscure figure in popular worship if we get technical)
At the time, Ao Guang didn't actually have a name in 2019 canon. So the fans referred to him as 敖广 (that's what the eastern dragon king has always been called, but Nezha 2 reimagines him with a different name that's pronounced similarly: 敖���).
Tiandi's given name, or rather, the name that the fans gave him, is Hao Tian 昊天, which is the actual name of one of the mythological Tiandi's many variations
Tiandi does not appear in either Nezha movie. His entire character (appearance, personality, etc.) is purely built on headcanons. He is usually written as a playboy, a heartless manipulative bastard, a deadbeat dad, an ungrateful power greedy monster, and so on. But he is always written and drawn as #Hot.
Ao Guang gave birth to Ao Bing in the Dilong universe.
As you can tell, this is a very angsty ship that usually ends in anger and suffering, but there are plenty of fix-its and happy ending versions out there too, mostly about Tiandi feeling bad for being such a shitty bastard in the past and trying to win Ao Guang back
Regardless of how you feel about Dilong after reading all this, if you are in any way fond of Ao Guang's design in Nezha 2, you owe your life and soul to Dilong shippers because Jiaozi's original idea for Ao Guang was making him a bearded geezer. The Nezha team saw how popular the humansona for Ao Guang was (from dilong fanart) and they incorporated it into canon.
#Dilong had a resurgence in popularity thanks to Nezha 2 (it's the no.6 trending topic on weibo as of right now). But you'll notice that pre-2025 Dilong may feel ooc now because Ao Guang is, for lack of better word, interpreted more as a softspoken twink than the beautiful himbo he is now.
*Keep Dilong in mind as well. It is the source of much insanity below.
LuBao:
Next, in a similar vein to Dilong, another wild ship has risen over the horizon! In terms of quantity, dilong is more popular, but in terms of engagement, this is doing bigger numbers nowadays. I'm talking likes in the ten-thousands range. That ship is.... Lu Tong x Shen Gongbao. AKA 鹿豹 (LuBao, DeerLeopard)
You might be thinking "HUH!? Why!?" My answer for you is that it's all Taiyi's fault. Both inside and outside the movies, Taiyi consistently screws Shen Gongbao over. Life imitates art! This section is a little longer than the dilong section because there is a Lot going on here. I'll admit that one of the most profoundly beautiful and well-written stories I have ever read is a lubao fic on lofter, I understand now
Just as the fans did for dilong once upon a time, this section of fans pulled a blink-and-you-miss-it quote from Nezha 2, where Taiyi tells Nezha that the previous captain of the demon hunting team was Shen Gongbao (after they meet the current captain, Lu Tong).
From there, the lore just got deeper. When Lu Tong greets Taiyi, he calls him 师伯 (Shi Bo, senior martial uncle). But you only call a male relative 伯 in Chinese when that person is your father's older brother. Wuliang is Taiyi's elder (martial) brother (Shi Xiong, as I'm sure you all know), so Lu Tong's address is incorrect. Taiyi knows this as well, so he corrects Lu Tong and says "It should be 师叔" (Shi Shu, younger martial uncle) EDIT: Taiyi doesn't directly say "It shout be shishu" to Lu Tong (that was an incorrect memory on my part). More accurately, Taiyi refers to himself as "Shi Shu" when talking to Lu Tong. Lu Tong continues calling him Shi Bo anyway. And more tellingly, Lu Tong doesn't refer to Taiyi as Shi Bo when Wuliang is around; he exclusively does it when Wuliang isn't there. The fans took it to mean one of two things:
Lu Tong did it on purpose because he only acknowledges one (1) person as his Shi Shu and that's Shen Gongbao
Lu Tong is officially Wuliang's disciple, but he believes himself to truly be Shen Gongbao's disciple and since Taiyi is Shen Gongbao's elder martial brother, he'll call him Shi Bo
Then it got even more elaborate. The fans surmised that since the celestials are so condescending towards demons, Lu Tong and He Tong were ostracized and bullied when they first arrived at Yuxu Gong. And the only person who was nicer to them/protected them/stuck up for them was Shen Gongbao since they're the only demons there. This is why you'll sometimes see fanart of the three of them together in the "Yuxu Gong days."
When Shen Gongbao immediately realized Shen Xiaobao's wound came from Lu Tong's arrow, the fans decided this meant that he was familiar enough with Lu Tong to know his fighting style. When paired with the above headcanon, this directly turns into "Shen Gongbao himself taught Lu Tong archery."
Whenever Ao Bing possessed Nezha, fans noticed that there was always a closeup of Lu Tong's reaction. They decided this meant that Lu Tong recognized Ao Bing through recognizing his fighting style, taught to him by Shen Gongbao.
The fans also think Lu Tong did not have to go off that hard on Shen Xiaobao and Shen Zhengdao. There's following your boss's orders and there's following those orders in the most hyperviolent over the top way possible. Their conclusion is that Lu Tong knew that was Shen Gongbao's family and did it on purpose. Because when Shen Gongbao left Yuxu Gong without telling him, Lu Tong took that personally. And when he took Ao Bing on as a disciple, Lu Tong took that more Personally. So Lu Tong has decided to do his best to kill everyone Shen Gongbao ever cared about until he has nobody left but Lu Tong. Audiences complained that Lu Tong lacked a personality in the movie- the fandom has assigned him a personality and that personality is "sadistic freak obsessed with his Shi Shu."
Things of note about LuBao:
dilong was requited at some point in time, but lubao is an aggressively one-sided ship where Shen Gongbao only requits 1% of the time either because it's a complete AU, none of the movie's events happened, or he has amnesia (inflicted on him by Lu Tong)
A common trope revolves around Lu Tong hoping and hoping for Shen Gongbao to take him on as a disciple, which never happens, planting the first seeds of disappointment and HATE
Lu Tong really fucking hates Ao Bing, whom he considers to be the antagonist of his life because Ao Bing STOLE all of Shen Gongbao's love that rightfully should have been Lu Tong's. He also really hates Ao Guang too, again for stealing HIS shishu. actually, he hates Taiyi sometimes too. He hates anyone Shen Gongbao ever talked to.
He Tong is the only person who knows Lu Tong is this way.
Sometimes Lu Tong meets Shen Gongbao as a primitive deer, a fully adult celestial-in-training, or a literal "deer boy." During his time as captain, Shen Gongbao usually takes Lu Tong under his wing at some point and/or is the person who spares Lu Tong from being slaughtered by the rest of the team or convinces the others not to kill him. OR, even wilder, Shen Gongbao interacts with Lu Tong for 5 minutes 200 years ago and that's enough to cause Lu Tong to go on this spiral. Whichever the case, Lu Tong imprints on Shen Gongbao.
90% of LuBao content includes Lu Tong taking his revenge on Shen Gongbao after Wuliang imprisons him. This includes all manner of graphic torture.
Lu Tong wants Shen Gongbao to hate him because he believes Shen Gongbao left him in the past due to indifference towards him. "Hate lasts longer than love."
Shen Gongbao: *exists* Lu Tong: I'll kill your family. I'll kill your disciple. I'll kill your disciple's father and your disciple's best friend. And Taiyi Zhenren too. I'll kill everyone who ever interacted with you. Then I'll break you and break you some more until you're nothing but bones and dust. I hate that you made me love you and that you left me. What do the dragons have that I lack? Are my antlers lesser than their horns? We both have blood on our hands and yet you think yourself nobler than I. You are inherently kinder than me and I hate that the most about you. My dearest revenge is dragging you down to my level, to make you hate me as much as I hate you. If I can't have your love, I will have your hate and your pain and your tears- Ao Bing & Ao Guang: 有病!??????? WTF.
恨明月高悬独不照我 is a phrase now permanently associated with this ship. It translates to "I hate that the moon in the sky shines for all but me." Lu Tong hates that shishu shares affection with everyone except him.
This is such a prevalent characterization of Lu Tong at this point that "obsessed with Shen Gongbao" is now his defining trait even in content where neither he or Shen Gongbao are main characters
If its an Ao Guang/Shen Gongbao fic, Lu Tong sometimes shows up as SGB's abusive ex, abusive stalker, or a guy that Ao Guang finds extremely creepy and annoying
If you're still here, this next and final section puts everything else to shame!
The Ao Guang Discourse
There is a lot of drama surrounding Ao Guang now, not because of anything he did as a character, but because of who's he's shipped with. But there's actually only one side of the fandom instigating all the arguments.
Now, remember Aobing Zhuan? That's a spinoff comic focused on Aobing's childhood that came out circa 2021(?). It goes into depth about his early days with Shen Gongbao, his brothers, and even his mother, 应龙, Yinglong. (Yinglong is a real mythological creature, a powerful dragon with a place in old mythos and folklore as well, but that's not entirely relevant here lol). Yinglong is older than Ao Guang, is beautiful, strong, etc. She dies in the spinoff.
A significant number of fangirls latched onto Ao Guang (as presented in Aobing Zhuan), and projected onto Yinglong, the mother of his children. After Nezha 2 released, Ao Guang understandably gained even more fangirls. Most of them became GuangYing shippers.
Now, it's a golden rule in CN fandoms to tag your content so others can avoid. GuangYing shippers do not care about this. They go onto any and all m/m content with Ao Guang to insult the authors and argue that their disgusting ways are disrespectful to canon, disrespectful to Ao Guang, and disrespectful to women everywhere. It doesn't matter that Yinglong is not in the movies and also dead--Ao Guang is not allowed to move on from her ever, and also he is STRAIGHT. Is there not enough gay content out there?? Why can't the heterosexuals have this one man to themselves?? The injustice!
Edit to add: m/f is also unsafe from the wrath of guangyin shippers. They also attack Ao Guang self-shippers for daring to be sluts coming in between him and his true love, Yinglong.
They especially hate dilong and have been harassing all dilong content for the past month. Dilong is their main target, but it's not their only target- you can also find them under Ao Guang/Shen Gongbao content claiming that "they're just besties" and "Ao Guang just sees Shen Gongbao as a pet" asdfasdf
Dilong shippers retort by saying all Guangying shippers do is attack and harass others instead of making their own content, which is why their content is so lacking and pitful. They also called into question the canonicity of Aobing Zhuan. Jiaozi supervised it, but he's not the actual author. They started bashing Aobing Zhuan as focusing too little on Aobing, making Aobing look bad to make his brothers look good, accusing the author of being a Xiao Zhan stan in the wake of the ao3 ban, creating events that directly contradicted with canon, crediting things that Ao Guang or Shen Gongbao did for Aobing as things that Yinglong did, the official Nezha team is embarrassed of the direction Aobing Zhuan went in and doesn't acknowledge it anymore, Yinglong is the author's self insert, etc. And back and forth-
And then, 匪我思存 (Fei Wo Si Cun), acclaimed web novelist, author of multiple novels, including 东宫 (Goodbye My Princess 2019) and 9 more that were turned into TV shows.... published a Dilong fanfic on main (weibo). It referred to Ao Guang as 敖广 and involved M-preg, of him giving birth to Ao Bing, who is also Tiandi's child here. Yinglong and Tiandi's wife are both in the story too- they are a lesbian couple who double as beards for their husbands.
The Ao Guang fangirls, I mean, Guangying shippers LOST IT. They came at Fei Wo Si Cun with full throttle rage. Countless socmed posts about what a horrible disgusting disgraceful thing this author did! How dare she use her wide platform to do this instead of putting it somewhere where nobody can see!? Some have even accused this one fic of destroying Nezha 2's image on the global stage. This one story about this one ship has DESTROYED the reputation of ALL OF CHINA. This is TREASON. Now when normies see Ao Guang and Ao Bing, all they will think about is M-preg.
Not only that, Fei Wo Si Cun had the audacity to do something as misogynistic as turning Yinglong into a lesbian beard! It is a SIN to break up a "canon" pairing and a sin to change the character's sexualities into anything except heterosexuality!
Correction: the lesbian couple part is hearsay and probably came from FWSC saying (that in her fic’s setting) Yinglong and Tiandi’s wife married their husbands because they can’t be with the people they love for “reasons”
The Yinglong crowd is still going at it as I write this. FWSC has not deleted or apologized for this fic. China's reputation has, last I checked, not been DESTROYED by this one story about an animated dragon man from a kid's movie, and dilong shippers are still suffering.
And that's a wrap for now. I may or may not update this if something even wilder happens. I want to say no, this is the end of the ride, but we are only 1 month in. There's plenty of time for more to crop up!
UPDATE: This post is already out of date LMAO! For those interested in updates on everything mentioned above, here's the follow-up: Writeup Part 2.
BONUS UPDATE: Part 3
#nezha#nezha 2025#nezha 2#哪吒之魔童闹海#哪吒2#哪吒#adsadf I'm not a fan of overtagging#this is just for the 20 people who showed interest- hope this makes it easier for you guys to find~#and now I return to cultivating act 3 of rain in retirement#farewell and take care!#on lofter I have contributed to One (1) of the things mentioned above but I'm not saying which one#those who know me well will have to take a guess
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Guide to shiftblr.



Welcome shifttokers! I am Stilljuststardust! I am a LOA and reality shifting blogger. This is a guide to my blog, shiftblr, and my perspective of shifting.
Yes you're going to see a lot of LOA, many people including myself, believe manifestation and shifting are the same or at least connected.
I know it's probably overwhelming how different the community is. It is ok if you don't believe in LOA but please be respectful of those who do!
Everyone has different beliefs so please respect the original spirit of shiftblr. Please do not bring discourse here. You can block tags as well as people.
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Loa/shiftblr terms and their meanings
1. 4D/3D.
These are terms to describe the inner and outer worlds. The 3D is the outer world or the physical world. I know it's overwhelming how many posts tell you "the 3D isn't real" but please don't be alarmed by this. What they mean is that what currently exists in the 3D doesn't determine what you can and can't manifest and what is and isn't true for you.
So if you're bald and you want to manifest hair, the 3D might tell you it's impossible but since it is malleable you can gain hair through persistence in the 4D. So what's the 4D? The 4D is your inner world so thoughts, visualizations, beliefs.
The idea is that if you think as if you have it the outer world will change to match your inner world.
I feel like it's important to say now before explaining anything else:
No, intrusive thoughts do not manifest.
I have very intense intrusive thoughts usually revolving around my safety and I can tell you from experience they have never once manifested. You are safe. Your intrusive thoughts cannot hurt you.
2. Robotic affirming
Also known as the love of my life. Robotic affirmations are how many people manifest when they're struggling to believe/change their assumptions.
Robotic affirmations work without belief or feeling, your only goal is repetition. Whenever the topic comes up repeat your affirmations or think as if you already have what you want. This is what I recommend for people who are struggling emotionally because it's 100% ok to feel like shit. You can still manifest and feel like shit.
You say or think something to yourself that implies you have what you want and it imprints on your subconscious. Your subconscious will believe anything you tell it and with repetition you can get it to believe anything.
Your subconscious doesn't care what is or isn't true in the physical world it only cares what you are telling it repeatedly and consistently.
An affirmation is anything you say or repeat to yourself so avoid affirming against what you're manifesting. It's not that manifestation isn't working it's just that you're manifesting the wrong thing. You are ALWAYS manifesting and LOA is just a way to filter it to give you what you want.
You repeat something, your subconscious believes you, it manifests into your reality.
3. "Ignore the 3D"
This doesn't mean what a lot of people think it means. It's easy to misinterpret this as somehow gaslighting yourself so hard you don't know what's going on around you but that is NOT what this is.
Ignoring the 3D just means when you see something you don't want you choose to affirm what you want to be true anyway.
So if you want to manifest/shift to a new house and you wake up in your old one you don't have to magically delude yourself into not knowing where you are you just chose to affirm as if you're where you want to be instead of where you are.
Obviously you're aware on some level of what's happening, that's OK. Ignoring the 3D just means staying consistent with your manifestation even when you're shown the opposite of what you want.
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Nobody else has the courage to maintag it, so you know what? Fine. I’ll take one for the team.
I won’t deny that there might have been some serious issues with LU fans policing non-LU creators in the past, I wasn’t around for most of it—as such my knowledge mostly extends to how non-LU linkshippers were impacted & that’s about it. But I’m aware I’ve only been here for like 2-3 years so I won’t claim to know everything.
What I do know, however, is that a vast majority of what’s been going on right now stems from gatekeeping.
I’ve blotted out usernames & pfps to minimize unwanted attention toward affected parties, but y’all need to understand how wildly uncalled for the current wave of anti-LU discourse is, because far as I can tell, this is what triggered it.



It must be noted that those “Thank you, that’s cool to know!” Tags came from the same person who’d initially asked the question in the first place.
I don’t care how many works get misstagged or whatever happened 5 years ago, all the misstagging in the world wouldn’t warrant the reaction we got from ovega & her followers. What’s particularly crazy is it was her own follower that brought up LU; we didn’t even do anything this time, they’re just lashing out over a random newbie simply not knowing. Which, there’s literally no other way to describe it: that’s gatekeeping.
They’re not even trying to hide it anymore either, all this bs about how LU fans “don’t even play the games,”? That’s first of all, straight up absurd, & second of all, especially considering LU tends to be a gateway into the LOZ fandom these days, it’s elitism. Because god forbid some new ppl join a 40+ year old fandom from a tumblr comic or AO3 fic I guess? & maybe that’s precisely the issue.
It’s elitism, & I refuse to pretend it’s anything else by this point. If you’ve been watching all this go down & felt lost & confused or like you’ve gone crazy—you’re not. This has been building for a while & folks’ve just been afraid to say anything publicly till now. I want to emphasize the fact that you are why I made this post. You did nothing wrong by being late to a—quite frankly—ancient & one of the most convoluted fandoms out there.
It’s fine to not know things, it’s fine to have “only” played 3 games (holy shit! That’s a lot! These games are huge!), it’s fine to have only played the new games, it’s also fine if you never intend to play any of the games for whatever reason. You don’t owe anyone any sort of proof that you ‘belong’ here.
More importantly I promise you most LOZ creators & Linkmeet creators are way more chill than some of the more vocal discoursers may lead you to believe. What’s going on right now isn’t fair to anyone involved. Newbies nor creators.
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LAST UPDATED ON: APRIL/30/2025
─⪼ Hi I'm FIORE !
they/them ☦ young adult ☦ artist, worldbuilder and maybe game concept artist : ^ )
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Do note some of these will be treated as regular jokes and jests characters would make to make fun of themselves and their own predicaments, but know that doesn't take away any of the severity, there's alot of cruelty that doesn't seem apparent on first viewing but it will always be there for you to find, view responsibly and stay safe!
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As mentioned above, all is welcomed, I'd however appreciate if you extend some of your courtesy to me and do not send me anything that's along the lines of being sexually charged. Suggestive jokes are fine, calling them attractive is alright! I am an adult but that doesn't warrant that I'll be over the moon with inappropriate asks. Rule of thumb is if you'd feel uncomfortable sending it to a stranger or a teenager, think twice before sending it in.
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💬Do you like Narilamb?
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💬Where does your username come from?
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💬 what's your lamb's name/pronouns/gender/etc?
They / them nonbinary androgynous, because I like to keep them as ungendered as they are in the game, thats just how I prefer them!
As for a name, they don't really have one! Nor do they deserve one, they don't deserve anything.
Endearingly though, I tend to use Lambie as a little nickname and I DO like the name Lambert, because it makes me giggle, but I will only use both for personal and organisation reasons, not because its their name. In universe they're "The Lamb" and nothing else, theres no name beyond the title.
ART RELATED
🎁Can I make Fanart/Fanfics of your au/ocs?
Of course! Absolutely! You don't even need to ask! Only thing I'll ask of you though is for you to tag me in them so I can see them... These will always guarantee a smile on my face.
🎭can I use your art as a pfp/post it to Pinterest?
I'd rather you not use my art for anything unless you've had my permission or its art I made for you! Definitely don't post it around other places without my knowledge. I don't have any other active socials besides here and Bluesky under Lambouillet
🎨🖌️Program and brushes
I use Clip studio paint for most of my art, Aseprite every once in a while and Spine2d for my sprites!
I change what I use sporadically so I can't give you a proper answer on EVERY brush I use but here are my frequent ones:
Shockgrunge Marker and Pencil
Kasuy MK sploon
Tacodemuerte Mrsplotchy
Scribbly Dark
Jarijari
Bathylychnops Brushes
Intoxicate set
🚩 Where'd you get the borders from?
I made them! Part1 Part2
useful visualiser for anyones whos read this far ♥️ muah
One last thing:
I know I mentioned that I had experiences that are very specific to me and don't get me wrong it impacted my life to a level thats obviously more severe than normal. But, I don't know everything, I am not the arbiter of the experience of every practitioner, religious group or religious organisation. Abusive or not, this is an experience that isn't one size fits all. it varies and can be influenced from culture to culture, folklore and upbringing. There are some things that I will just NOT know and it's not my place to say whats true and what's false when it comes to religions and places that aren't mine. It would be better if you sought to find somebody who is from the place you're curious about to ask ontop of doing your own readings. Always be sure to approach with a level of sensitivity and tact. Don't try to treat these people as wells of information you can dry up, its ghoulish.
Extra tags directory for my convenience:
#🗃️ - Archive
#🖼️ - Favourites
#📖 - Comics
#relinquary
#prattles
#manuscripts
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