#otp: joey potter x pacey witter

[creekspeak]

6.14 "you know what else we never did?"

[charlieconwayy]

OTP Meme [2/5 Episodes]: Castaways

"When you and I were on the boat, I used to dream that we'd be castaway somewhere."

[paceypeternathanslawyer]

💕💕My OTPs + A calm domestic vibe 💕💕

Nathan & Haley (One Tree Hill)

Pacey & Joey (Dawson's Creek)

Olivia & Peter (Fringe)

[thesweetnessandthesarcasm]

[joshjacksons]

Josh Jackson you are a king among men!!!! 😁❤💗

[butterflykisses86]

My Love for Joshua Jackson continues to grow even to this day.

[joey-potters]

Thanks for tagging me @userbettycooper

Pick any five OTPs and choose just one song you associate with each. Send to/tag five people and keep it going!

Joey x Pacey: Mine by Taylor Swift

Kanej: Work Song by Hozier

Rumbelle: Transatlanticism by Death Cab for Cutie

Jackson x April: Make This Go On Forever by Snow Patrol

Nace: Agape by Bear's Den

Tagging: @witter-potter, @amycurtismarchs, @fresleys, @paceyjoeys & @ariesbilly

[preppymayhem]

Do you think Pacey and Andie would have ended up together if Andie hadn’t cheated on Pacey? Why do you prefer Pacey/Joey over Pacey/Andie?

Okay so before I answer this question I want to preface this by saying that I generally do not think that the worth of a ship is determined by whether I feel it should have been endgame or not. Or in shorter terms, I do not think a ship being endgame in canon makes it better than ship that is not endgame. I also generally don’t require or need a ship to be canon to enjoy it or to like it. I cared a lot more when I was younger, but now I am in the words of Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon: “I’m too old for this shit”.

That is all to say that I very much liked Pacey/Andie, them and their romance in s2 was one of the best things in that season! I thought they were really good together and I def reblog posts of them any time it comes across my dash (which is sadly not that often). I think their relationship was important to both their development as characters both individually and together. And I’m not saying that it was a stepping stone to Pacey/Joey (it is great in its own right), but I do maintain that Pacey/Joey could not have happened if Pacey/Andie hadn’t happened. Like it is super important that Andie was in all likelihood the first person in Pacey’s life who loved him and saw and treated him as if he had value in and of himself.

(And I also don’t want anyone want to take this as like Andie “fixed” Pacey and so after he was good enough for Joey. I think that’s infantilizing and is an unfair reading to all characters involved and I get very wary when people start talking about relationships in terms of whether people deserve other people like they are rewards for getting a good report card)

So with all that being said, no I don’t believe that their relationship was ever destined for long term success even if she hadn’t cheated. How much this was due to writer intent or just accidental flaws in the writing I can’t say, but personally to me, I didn’t see them lasting at all past high school in any real capacity. Which I want to reiterate does not make them lesser or mean that they were bad for each other. I think it was evident to me especially in the latter half of s2 that there would come a time when the fissures that were present in their relationship would just open and separate them completely.

I think Pacey’s self worth was just totally in the rock bottom so he molded himself way too much so that he could feel like he was good enough for her, and Andie I think overly dictated what he should value and gave the indication that everything was on her terms which didn’t bode well.

But I also want to say the writing choice of breaking them up via Andie cheating was a bad and lazy writing decision on the writer’s part. Like I don’t necessarily think that the timing of it (them breaking up early in s2) was wrong, but more the how.

If I were to fix it and do it over. I would have had Andie just plain break up with him once she got out of the mental health facility. It would have been in line for her to come out and say “Hey Pacey I have to work on getting my life back to where I want it to be and I don’t think I have the capacity or ability to be in a relationship” and Pacey would resist but they would breakup, probs both would walk away thinking that once she got her life back they would reconcile. I think this was in line with the way Andie was ordering her life at the time and also doing it this way would have added extra layers of tension to Pacey’s character over the course of the season, AND would have made Andie’s selfless decision at the end to let the idea of them getting back together go when she realized Pacey had fallen for a Joey a real character growth moment for her. It also would have contrasted even more nicely with the way Dawson was handling the whole thing because it puts all couples and characters in a parallel.

But hey I am not tv writer now or in 1999 so what do I know.

And I should also cop to the fact that when I first watched Dawson’s Creek fully through, I already knew Pacey/Andie weren’t going to last so I had both consciously and unconsciously set my expectations accordingly.

As to the second question, my reason for preferring Pacey/Joey is more than the idea that either of them could never be happy with anyone else (a fact that I don’t believe at all) and more that I really just like how their romance was written, performed and developed. I liked the idea of two people who think they are so different and completely separate from each other, find out that they have something in common and actually like connect and that the other has things that they value and respect. Pacey values Joey’s ambitions, her intelligence and insights and the work she has put into getting to where she is in life and Joey learns (because as I have said Joey is little narrow focused on things and is prone too overly judge others for their ‘flaws’) to value things in Pacey that she perhaps struggles with. (I really think she at her heart fell in love with his ability to just go into things wholeheartedly without worrying about the risks and picking himself up after every setback) i think they both fell for the other when they were supporting and just generally being there emotionally for each other when they both thought they had been abandoned by the people they had loved (Dawson and Andie). And I thought it was just really emotionally resonant, well told and is a perfect example that when US TV can get this sort of u expected storytelling right, it just knocks most anything out of the water.

So for me it was the narrative and the writing. And I also just really loved their dynamic all throughout. Unfortunately from s3 onwards we just get more time to see them together than we got with Pacey and Andie and that just sort of sealed it.

I know this is long and I had to keep myself from going off on a hundred tangents, but thank you for asking! I love talking about this stuff and unfortunately Inso rarely get into active enough fandoms and ships where I get to talk about it so thank you anon!

[ribbonthief]

“Me and you, Pace.”

[livelovecaliforniadreams]

Pacey + Joey + Hands 

[riickgrimes]

Sweet dreams, Joey...

[cleoncapture]

say it with me PACEY AND JOEY FOREVER

[charlieconwayy]

OTP Meme [1/2 Seasons]: Season 3

Look, I don’t want to stop you, Pacey, and I don’t want to stop Dawson, and I don’t want to be stopped, not by either of you, not by anyone. I mean, that’s what this whole year has been about. We’ve been trying to stop each other from moving on and from growing up but - but not you. I mean, you’re different, and you’ve challenged me every step of the way and you’ve been there every step of the way… Jo, departure time is in T-minus thirty seconds so if there’s a point, I suggest you get to it. I think I’m in love with you. You think or you know? I know. I’ve known it since the moment you kissed me and maybe even before that. And, scary as it is, I don’t wanna deny it anymore, Pacey. I don’t wanna run from it, and I don’t wanna let it run from me.

[paceypeternathanslawyer]

Pacey & Joey and Nathan & Haley parallels 🩷💜

[thesweetnessandthesarcasm]

[1skittishkitten]

Pacey x Joey + the beginning & end of every season

Pacey x Joey + the beginning & end of every season