K.M.S
Haerin x Gn! reader
A/N: Patience isnt my greatest assets, so this fic wasnt made well. smh. Pensive emoji.
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Haerin regarded this annoying sensation on her chest every time she saw you as hatred, or when you smiled at others making her want to take it right off your face. The soft expression you’d have whenever you looked at her, made her wish you never did look at her.
Ever since you debuted along with your members in HYBE you’ve always felt this intense glare Haerin would give to you, whenever both of you were near each other’s presence.
You knew the cat-eyed girl hated you, but you never reciprocated the flaming abhor she had for you. Instead, you did the exact opposite, you were more extra sweeter when it came to her.
That made her more infuriated, despite her blunt attitude towards you. That stupid smile never left your pretty face, she never understood why you were so annoying. Because Newjeans and Le sserafim’s schedules were aligned, you frequently saw Haerin more than other people do. You planned on getting Haerin to open up with you more, change her despised demeanor to you.
When you bumped into each other in the halls, she'd always have this cold stare. Your welcomes to her were usually disregarded, which hurt you, but you were determined to make her like you, even if just a little bit.
She ignored everything, even your words, actions, and sheer presence. You’ve done about anything well, mostly the things you planned, but it's all been thwarted by her. You've lost hope of ever getting her to like you; you never expected her to act this way, and you have no clue what you did to deserve her hatred. Your optimism and confidence soon turned into frustration and rage.
You couldn't figure out why she wouldn't budge. And, without even realizing it, the once patient and kindness you previously showed her became a mirror of her own disdain for you.
This where the mutual hostility began, anywhere, everywhere, both of you always had an uptight tension, in a gathering? shared glares were seen. in halls? scoffs were heard.
Of course, this didn’t go unnoticed by the media, as multiple articles started popping everywhere on the internet about the former Le sserafim and new jeans member’s ‘’deep’’ hatred for each other.
‘‘Seriously, Yn, can you just talk it out with Haerin?’‘ Chaewon asked, her expression filled with disbelief.
‘‘No, she started it.’‘ You replied, your arms crossed with cheeks puffed out, stubbornly disagreeing with the suggestion.
Your fellow members sighing at your refusal.
‘‘Why, do you even hate her?’‘ Sakura questioned.
‘‘I never hated her, she started this all, always glaring at me giving me cold stares, without a reason!’‘ You squealed; your hands raised up out of frustration.
‘‘Have you never tried asking her why?’‘ Eunchae looked back at you with curiosity.
‘‘How would i do that when she barely looks at me without having disdain on her eyes.’’ You explained, as you sighed, having enough of this conversation.
‘‘Look, let’s talk about this later manager-nim is asking for me right now I need to go.’‘ You spoke, standing up from where you seated, waving goodbye to you, leaving the room.
You walk the endless hallways of the building, for some reason you felt your stomach turn, your palms sweating. You felt nervous but you didn’t know why, feeling as if something horrible will happen this day. You shake off the anxious feeling, continuously walking across the corridors.
You took one last breath before nervously opening the door, as you entered, your heart dropped seeing the eyes of the person you held resentment for, casually sitting a few meters away from where you stand.
‘‘Oh, yn, you’re finally here, take a sit.’‘ Your manager smiled, gesturing to you on a vacant seat beside her. You hesitantly sat with your body stiffen at the close distance you were with the cat eyed girl.
‘‘So, I brought you here for two reasons.’‘ Your manager paused, staring back at both of you. Making you feel more anxious, as you anticipated her words.
‘‘I’ll make it short; I know both of you are aware of the spreading articles about you two, and it’s bringing negative sides for your group. The company doesn’t like where it’s going, so the company suggested you both to go somewhere together act all friendly, to clear out all the allegations.’‘
Displeased at the idea, you stood up.
‘‘but-’‘ your manager cuts you off.
‘‘And, before you protest this idea, whatever personal problem you both have for each other, if you don’t do anything to fix it. The company will have to suspend you both from any promotion going on of your groups.’‘
You slowly went back to your chair, nervously smiling back at your manager. Obediently clasping your hands together.
‘‘Of course, manager, we’ll fix this.’‘ You agitatedly spoke, glancing at the person beside you. Oddly enough she hasn’t said anything at all, or reacted at the idea the company has suggested. suspicious.
‘‘Well then, that was all, you both can start by going somewhere together, while our camera guy follows you. Remember, behave." Your manager warned you both, pointing at the door exit.
As both of you leave the office, you look back at her, her gaze filled with nothing but a void of unspoken emotions.
"As much as i don't wanna be near you right now, can we stop this feud we have and be civil, my..OUR career is at stake here." You reasoned out, your eyes closed as your arms crossed against your chest. Waiting for her response.
Silence was all you could hear, you lifted your one eye open to see her gone.
You stood there stunned, peering left and right to see if she was hiding anywhere, but she just left you there.
“Is she serious, oh my god, I can't believe this.” The veins in your neck threaten to pop, your feet are pounding loudly as you exit the hallways.
"God, she's really getting on my nerves; my career is on the line, and she still ignores me!" " You went back and forth in front of Kazuha and Eunchae, conveying your indignation at the girl.
It's been two days since your meeting with your manager, and you still haven't gone to any places with her. Not when she's been avoiding you almost entirely, everything from messaging her number to being in front of her dorm to attending her shootings for their comeback, all of it faltered. It seemed like you were talking to an unreachable person.
“How about physically confronting her?” You looked back at Kazuha, your eyes twitching from angriness.
"You think I didn't do that!" " You scoffed, the scorching hatred leaving your body. When you look back at Kazuha and see her frown, your overpowering anger subsides as you realize what you've done.
“I'm sorry, unnie, I didn't mean to yell at you, I'm just frustrated.” You hug her, feeling immense guilt at the sudden outburst you gave her.
You felt Kazuha embrace you back, as you sighed.
‘‘Unnie, how about you assert your dominance!!’’ Eunchae shrieked loudly, her hands shaped in a fist bump.
‘‘What?’‘ You giggled at her proposal, as eunchae hurriedly stood up.
‘‘You know, like if she doesn't listen to you, be like those guys in kdramas and force her!’‘ Your eyebrows furrowed at the idea.
‘‘I think that’s too much..’‘ You replied, hesitant on the precipitous idea.
‘‘No, like if she doesn’t go give her a reason to go!’‘ You pondered for a bit, before jumping with your hands excitedly raising up.
‘‘wait wait, you got a point.’’ You began hugging Eunchae out of happiness, thanking her profusely. You finally had an idea up your sleeve.
You were shivering inside your jacket, as condensation went out of your mouth.
‘‘Why is it so cold, early in the morning.’‘ you mumbled as you went in the HYBE building, you bowed at the staff as you entered.
‘‘Morning, guys.’‘ You greeted your members, seeing them already in the practice room. You take off your jacket, as you start stretching for your dance rehearsal.
‘‘So, are you gonna take haerin out on a date now?’‘ Yunjin spoke, sitting on the floor with her gaze on you.
You choke at the question. ‘’W-What, I mean no it's not a date, I’m just gonna go out with her somewhere and act like we’re close.’’ you mumbled, gawkily stretching your arms.
‘‘You both would look good together.’‘ Sakura cut in; her voice full of mischief.
‘‘No, we aren't.’‘ You scoff at her remark, avoiding your member's constant gaze and teasing looks, not noticing the blush crepting against your cheeks.
‘‘Can we just practice already.’‘
You were finally through with your dancing rehearsal after a couple of hours. You straightened your disheveled hair and adjusted your crumpled clothes before hurriedly putting on your jacket.
‘‘I’m going to go first, bye.’‘ You quickly opened the door hearing Yunjin scream.
‘‘HAVE FUN, KISS IN PRIVATE!’‘
You sighed, God, why was I dragged into this fiasco, you wondered, caressing your sleepy eyes. You walked a few steps away from Newjeans' practice room, rubbing your hands together nervously.
Before you could get to the door, it burst open, revealing Minji, who was taken aback by your unexpected presence. You promptly bowed back at her as she returned yours.
‘‘Oh, hi yn, what brings you here?’‘ She questioned.
‘‘Um, is haerin there?’‘ You replied back, gazing behind her trying to look inside the room.
‘‘uh..’‘ she paused, hesitant to continue.
‘‘Yeah, she's um here let me go call her.’‘ She closes the door, making you stand outside. You could hear whispers and mumbles on the order side, but you shrugged it off. A few minutes went by and no one went outside, making you concerned.
unexpectedly the door opens, making you jump, there Hanni stood clutching on the feline-eyed girl who seemingly avoided your gaze.
‘‘Well, here’s the girl you’ve been looking for, I’ll leave you guys to talk.’‘ Hanni spoke, pushing Haerin close to you, slamming the door right after, leaving you both outside.
Awkward silence swallowed you both, the words you practiced last night somehow didn't come out.
‘‘Um, erhem I was wondering if you want to go to this new cafe nearby with me?’‘ you spoke laced with a tiny hopefulness.
‘‘I’m busy.’‘ She coldly replied, she turned around to go back to the room leaving you no room to argue.
In truth, she wasn't busy; you knew this since you had spoken with their manager about their schedule, and today was basically a free day aside for some minor practice.
You grasped her wrist as she opened the door, then slowly intertwined her hand with yours, startling her with the physical touch.
You peeked on the door, waving at her members.
"I'm gonna borrow Haerin for a while, we're gonna go somewhere, bye!" You yelled slightly.
‘’But-’’ Haerin tried to protest, suddenly Danielle spoked up.
"Okay, enjoy!" waving back at you.
While holding Haerin's hands, you gently dragged her to the elevator, and to your surprise, she didn't try to stop you. Instead, she was quiet, a little too quiet for your liking the whole ride in the elevator.
As you said your greetings to the staff members and messaging your manager that you and haerin were going somewhere, you both were soon walking to the cafe 20 mins ahead.
No words were shared, the cold distracting you both. You were still holding haerin’s hand making sure she wouldn't disappear all of the sudden but the slight coldness of her hand made you worried.
You gripped on it slightly as you put both of your clasped hands together inside your pocket to keep it warmer. Still, she hasn't spoken up, you heard a faint click of a camera behind you. You needed to make this more believable.
"So, how was your day so far?" You fumblingly spoke, feeling stupid for asking.
A few seconds of dreadful silence she finally spoke.
"It was fine." She spoke in a hushed tone; you almost didn't hear it.
You gaze back at her, noticing her looking down, you close the distance between you and her as you hear another click behind you.
‘‘Are you cold?’‘ You spoke, feeling her body shiver slightly, both of your bodies a few inches away from each other.
‘‘N-No, I’m fine.’‘ She muttered, a faint blush came rising on her cheeks, if it wasn't so cold you would have thought she was blushing at something else.
Throughout the walk was an awkward silence, as multiple clicks of cameras were heard from time to time. But despite the silence and thickening tension, both of your hands intertwined never separated.
You soon arrived in the newly built cafe, you let go of her hands for you to open the door for her, but in the corner of your eyes you could have sworn her lips formed a frown, shrugging it off as the bad weather affected her.
"take a seat, I'll order us something." You spoke, walking towards the counter. Few mins in, you carefully held two lattes in your hand, as you tried not to drop liquid on the tainted floor.
You gently placed the tiny cup on Haerin's side of the table, taking a seat in front of her.
She glanced down on the cup, her eyes shimmered at the cream that shaped like a frog, with its two black dot eyes and a cute smiley face to top it all. She softly held it staring at the artwork.
"I heard you like frogs, so I asked them to put it on your cup." You spoke, gazing at the windowed view, noticing the camera, drinking your latte.
"Oh" she replied, her eyes focused on the cup, brushing the sides with her thumb.
You lied; you knew she liked frogs. Everything about her, from her likes, dislikes, hobbies. You knew it all. It was odd to know so much about the person you slowly had disdain for.
“Thank you” she whispered softly; her voice unheard by you.
“So, why do you like frogs?” You inquired, moving your empty cup aside. At the corner of your eyes, you saw how her gaze sparkled at the question, you bit inside your cheeks, holding back a smile.
“I think they’re cute and interesting, when we had our last dance performance for our comeback, there was this cute frog prop on our back it was a tomato frog, and I had the exact thing on our last shoot, it was really cute.” She rambled, you glanced back at her staring back at her cat eyes, the sweet tone of her voice when she spoke about things she liked, was pleasing to hear.
You didn’t notice the smile that was unconsciously forming on your lips, listening to her talk. If anyone saw you right now, they would’ve thought you were daydreaming.
“Uh, I'm sorry I rambled too much.” She apologized, her eyes looking down on the table, as she sheepishly traced the lines on the cup.
“It’s okay, I love listening to you anyway.”
“How’d it go?” Chaewon asked, lazily sitting on the couch beside Yunjin watching some Disney movie on the tv.
“It was okay.” You shrugged, heading to the kitchen to grab water.
“It must’ve been good then, seeing how you don't have a frown on your face.” Sakura popped out of her room overhearing the conversation earlier.
‘’Like I said, it was okay.’’
You lied, it was far the best so-called friendly hang out (date) you’ve ever been, she never ignored you at all. No glares were shared, no awkward tension. Despite it was just her talking about frogs, you loved it all, everything felt like you both can maybe work this out, and maybe be friends. You slept that night hopeful and excited for the next day.
The articles of both of you spread throughout social media. Showing you both in the cafe you were in just yesterday. Making the allegations of hatred for one another dying down, but did your hatred for each other changed too?
It was the award show that day, your group seated a table away from new jeans. You were sitting straight on your chair listening to the awards other artists won.
‘’Stop glancing at Haerin.’’ Sakura nudged your side, making you stare back at her.
‘’I am not.’’ You contradict her statement.
‘’Sure, I’ll pretend you didn't keep staring at her.’’ Sakura sneered, jokingly rolling her eyes at you, you nudged her side back.
Hours passed, with awards almost finished. You held back a yawn, bored out of your mind, wishing this award show ends soon so you can lay down on your bed.
But the host said something, that made you glance up so fast, your eyes widening. New jeans won an award. You gazed back at their table seeing them standing up surprised as well at the announcement, and without knowing, you hastily stood up clapping your hands gleefully, until your other members joined along with you.
You were proud of them, they really did deserve that win. It felt as if you won instead, that's how you felt at the moment.
Your eyes focused on the feline-eyed girl, while Minji was having her speech of acknowledgement, she looked pretty you thought, coincidentally her gaze fell upon your eyes. Both of you had a stare down, before awkwardly giving her a sheepish smile and crooked thumbs up. You saw her giggle slightly at your gesture, as crimson red appeared on your cheeks. Well, that was embarrassing.
Not long after they finished their speech, they went back to their table. Now you were fully awake, waiting for the show to finish so you can directly congratulate the girls and especially her.
You quickly left your tablet, telling your members that you were going to congratulate the girls. You walked the crowded place, bumping into other idols, your eyes scanning each spot, but to your disappointment you didn't find them at all.
You pouted, sitting down at the bottom of the stairs near to the backstage. Man, I guess I’ll just greet them later. You sighed with a downcast look on your face.
Sitting down, still disheartened with your eyes staring at the carpeted floor. You felt a soft tap on your shoulders.
‘’I couldn’t find them.’’ You sadly spoke, thinking the person behind you was just one of your members looking for you.
‘’Find who?’’ That voice.. You look behind, your eyes dilated slightly, the gentle voice you secretly yearned for was now standing in front of you, gazing back at your brown orbs.
‘’You.’’ You unconsciously spoke out loud enough for her to hear it, making you fumble, waving your hands frantically.
‘’I-I mean, you and the girls, I was um looking for you guys, yeah, I just wanted to congratulate you all for the win, you guys really deserved it.’’ You stuttered, your fingers playing against the hem of your clothes.
‘’Oh, thank you, yn’’ for once her voice felt genuine, it didn't feel cold or monotone. Thump. And her smile looked pretty, her eyes felt like a galaxy the more you stared back at it. Thump.
‘’No, problem.’’ You replied, awkwardly stood in front of her. You sheepishly scratched your nape.
‘’I guess, see you later?’’ your eyes now avoiding hers, feeling nervous at her presence.
‘’Mhm, see you later.’’ she spoke, bowing back at you before shortly walking away.
Suddenly the breath you held, let go, your heartbeat slowly calming down.
Your eyes fixed on the ceiling, your room dimly lit, you couldn't sleep at all. You rolled back and forth, attempting to sleep, but nothing came out of you, not a single yawn or sleepiness. And you knew why, you just didn't want to speak the thought out loud, you didn't want to admit it. You didn't want to admit that you were thinking of her, you knew why, you just didn't want to agree with your mind. You didn't want to admit that you were falling in a bottomless pit. You hid your ears under your pillows. God, out of all the people why did it have to be her?
You groaned sitting up from your soft bed, your hair unkempt. Your head full of unwanted thoughts, you laid back once again, closing your eyes. As you counted sheeps in your head, hopeful that this would make you sleep. The tiredness and lethargy finally showing up, feeling yourself slowly drifting into sleep.
‘’Haerin’’ the last word you mumbled before passing out.
Ever since that night, your thoughts scattered all over the place, the only thing that was running through your head was her. It didn't help at all that both of you saw each other more than ever, it was a painful thing you hated (loved). Everything reminded you of her.
You waited for Haerin outside the recording studio, you rubbed your hands against your pants.
‘’It's okay you got this, yn, you got this’’ you chanted those words like a mantra, closing your eyes to calm yourself.
After a few minutes you heard the door open making you quickly stand up from the bench you were seated on.
‘’Yn?’’ she looked at you slightly surprised and confused.
‘’Um hi.’’ you waved awkwardly at her, mentally slapping yourself for looking stupid in front of her.
‘’What are you doing here?’’ she tilted her head, confused as to why you were suddenly at the recording studio, wasn't it your break day today?
‘’Well, I was wondering if you wanted to, well, go with me in an amusement park-’’
‘’Sorry, I can’t, I’m gonna be quite busy today.’’ She cut you off, as she started walking back inside the recording studio, leaving you no time to answer back.
You stood there a little surprised at her short reply, you shrugged it off as you awkwardly scratched your head feeling a little bit embarrassed ‘’maybe, next time I guess..’’ you spoke to yourself.
But that didn't seem to be the case.
‘’Yn, this is the 15th time you failed this part of the dance, is something bothering you?’’ Chaewon spoke, her eyes bored with concern.
‘’Nothings wrong, I’m just having a hard time at this part.’’ You replied, breathing heavily with your hair sticking on your hair, sweat dripping against your face.
Chaewon slowly retreated in position, her gaze staring against your back, unconvinced with your answer.
It has been three weeks, you couldn’t take it anymore. Her confusing mixed signals, slowly made you insane. She’d act like she didn't hate you at all, then suddenly she’d ignore you. You couldn't understand anything when it came to her, you’ve tried about anything to stop this growing feeling to burst out even more, but then again, a heart gets what it wants, not even your physical restraint stopped yourself from unconsciously going to their practice room.
It’s been a week since you’ve ignored her. Ironically enough now she was the one looking for you, but being co-workers did not help you at all, everywhere you went she’d always be there. It was getting hard to ignore her and the feelings you have. But this time your ignoring methods, finally faced its biggest consequence, as now you were in an empty room with her, her gaze solely focused on your eyes.
‘’Uh, so what did you wanna talk with me alone?’’ Your gaze staring at your polished nail.
‘’Did I do something wrong?’’ both of her hands behind her back, getting straight to the point.
‘’What do you mean, you did nothing.’’ You brushed off her concerns.
‘’Are you sure?’’ Her voice was laced with uncertainty, unconvinced by your reply.
‘’Yes, if you have nothing else to say, I’m gonna go I have important matters to do.’’ You bluntly replied, turning your back on her ready to bolt out of that room. But luck wasn't on your side, you felt her hand gripping on your wrist making you look back at her.
‘’If so, why are you ignoring me these past few weeks, like I did something wrong!’’ she raised her voice at you, this was the first time you ever heard her yell or even show any signs of frustration.
‘’I’m not, it's just I’m having a hard time right now.’’ you muttered, staring at her arms wrapped around your wrist. Please not now you desperately thought.
"Or is it that you despise me? " She questioned accusingly, her gaze fixated on you.
‘’No, it's not like that..’’ you softly mumbled, intrusive thoughts biting behind your back, you didn't want to say it, not now.
‘’Then what is it?’’ Her lips forming a small frown, her grip on your wrist getting tighter, almost like she didn't want to let go of you at all.
‘’I..’’ you paused, your heart pacing up at an abnormal rate, it was now and never.
You closed your eyes tight ready to burst it all out.
‘’I like you.’’
‘’I like you a lot, I cant even lie to myself anymore, I hate it, I hate that I can't stop this feeling from growing, I want to be the only person you talk about frogs with. The person you share your days and nights with, I want to be more than just a friend in your eyes, because to me you're someone I want to see a dozen times in a day, just seeing you, made me so happy that I thought I was going crazy. I thought of nothing but you, just you.’’
You couldn’t look at her back, because you knew that she probably didn't feel the same.
‘’I like you too.’’
You didn't want to believe the words that came out of her mouth, not when all she ever gave you was confusing signals.
‘’Really? because all that you’ve given me these past few weeks are mixed signals that even the smartest people can't decode. How else would I know whether your words are true or not? You gaze upon her cat-like eyes standing still, waiting for her to reply.
But much to your disappointment she stayed silent no words came out or the reassurance you needed. you sighed, turning around as you took a few strides leaving the feline eyed girl.
Until...you heard it you stopped on your tracks slowly turning around gazing back at her.
"What?" You questioned not believing what you just heard.
"If destiny keeps rewinding time, changing everything from the first time I met you, I'd never forget you." She spoke so soft that you almost barely heard it, her eyes staring at the colored floor, her hand playing with the hem of her shirt.
"And why is that?" You asked still in the same position, strongly gazing at her figure.
"Because..." Her voice is getting softer.
"Because there's only one "you" in this world" her eyes finally had the courage to look at your brown orbs, you could see it, her eyes were filled with one thing you knew was genuine, love.
"I’m sorry, yn, I was hesitant, I thought you wouldn't feel the same.’’
But for you just those words were enough for your heart, nothing else mattered but her.
With your heart beating faster with each step you took and the smile that hurt your cheeks, you hugged her quicker than you ever thought, your heart swelled so much that you felt as if then and there you'd die you looked at her as if she put the stars on the sky.
And without even realizing the four words came out on its own.
"I love you too, Haerin." Her body became stiff at the words that came out of your lips and slowly her tiny hands reached your back, hugging you.
"So...does this mean we're like lovers?" Haerin whispered.
You let go of her, making a pondering expression.
"Nope, not yet" you reply.
"Why's that.." her eyebrows furrowed with her lips forming a pout clearly upset with what you said.
You chuckled at her expression.
"It's because..." You moved a little closer to her till personal space was nowhere to be seen.
Haerins eyes widened at the small gap you were closing, as she impulsively closed her eyes, waiting for what she expected.
As you smiled at her as your lips gently pressed against her cheeks with your ears turning crimson red, never have you expected to fall for someone ostensibly hate you.
"I thought..." Haerin looks back at you then hastily looks somewhere else.
"You thought what hm?" You stared at her jokingly wiggling your eyebrows, as an idea flashes ur head
"were you thinking of something rated r??" You said with a smug look onto your face.
"W-What no! You know what, i take it back" she replied, before walking away to avoid you seeing her blushing mess.
Before she could get any further away from you, you grabbed her wrist and pulled her back into your arms.
"I'm just kidding! Unless..you want to?" You giggled, holding her tight.
"I hate you." Her lips formed a frown, her action contradicting her word. Holding you back, her head resting on top of your shoulders.
"But I love you’’
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Alternative Chapters 3 & 4 of v3
Cute idea for how to promote a friend's AU: airing how I made them cry with my suggestions when they asked for ideas
Read Vespertin-y's Clockwise talent swap AU https://vespertin-y.tumblr.com/post/721299444787740672/clockwise-talentswap-lore-pt-1
Ves: ack. what do i dooooo for the ch3 motive
i cant just use the necronomicon again can i
that depends, who do you want to act on a motive?
Sini: Kirumi or Gonta would probably make good chapter 3 culprits in my opinion
Ves: kirumi is the ch1 killer. gonta...oooh
i haven't decided how to handle the survivor/adventurer thing with him yet. maybe survivor but it's for surviving the wilderness instead of dr??? ough
i ought to get rid of himiko at some point
for tenko angst purposes
Himiko could be the collateral second kill of ch3
Ves: yeah…maybe she just walked in on body hiding shenanigans? ohhhh tenko would be SO mad
YOU KILL HER ALMOST-GIRLFRIEND AND NOT EVEN FOR A GOOD REASON
THE AUDACITY
just what I had in mind
Sini: That cute moment between her and Gonta at the end of chapter 3? Yeah, forget that here
Ves: i think that i will let artist kiyo throttle anthropologist mugi with a garotte wire. as a treat.
revenge for a past life
i quite LIKE anthropologist mugi but what can ya do
Sini: Keep it to two victims and two culprits >: )
Ves: wouldn't gonta be SO fun as a survived killer though…hmm
i am going to make all of kokichi's favorite people into murderers and bully him into not viewing the world so black and white
Sini: Your bestie is a murderer? Well, he’s still alive. What you gonna do about that? What do you think of that, huh?
Ves: your bestie is a murderer
so is ur boyfriend
HITS U WITH NUANCE STICK
okay, so Kiyo kills Tsumugi, perhaps frames Himiko like he tried to in canon, and Gonta accidentally kills her in a confrontation?
either early in the investigation, or Himiko first found the body and was seen running away by Gonta (aka Hyioko being the main suspect in ch2 of sdr2 type beat)
Gonta doesn't mean to hurt anyone, but. He's stronger than he thinks and Himiko was freaking out since to her, he might as well have been the killer, she hasn't seen anyone else out and about either so she'd try to get away from him
so it'd be just like knocking out Shuichi in canon, except, well.
Ves: that's so SAD fuckkk
gonta :(((((
tenko would lose. her. mind.
still rotating the possibilities of what Kiyo's in-game motive could be, I want to say that it's still a crime of passion, Tsumugi does piss him off with something
Ves: making him lose control of his own strength like that is the meanest thing ive ever heard. i might change it to him accidentally chasing himiko somewhere dangerous bc that's SO sad
ACK I ALREADY DID THE ACCIDENTAL TRIPPING MURDER IN CH2 THOUGH
WAILS
yeag i haven't quite figured kiyo out yet…
i think strangulation works better with a premeditated crime, what with him coming up behind her…but the clay cutting wire WAS just sitting around in his lab. hrm.
mb she angie's herself by coming across him plotting a crime, that seems like the easiest option and i do want moogi to be an observer-type character, always watching in the background
maybe she gets too nosy
not really on accident, too much accidents around here
she ends up knowing too much
not a plan, but a secret, a motive to get out, personal, and she wants the tea, it's scorching hot, you're going to burn yourself, Tsumugi
snhdfghf yeah…got too silly [pensive emoji] she just wanted to knowwww
she's a little Too fascinated by people and with someone with as many secrets as korekiyo that is Not a friendly trait
oh maybe that's the motive!!
secrets, like in thh ch2
Ch4
so the deaths are
ch1: Maki, Kirumi
ch2: Ryoma, Miu
ch3: Tsumugi, Korekiyo, Himiko
ch4:???
ch5: Angie, Shuichi
ch6: Kaito
plot armour: Kiibo, Tenko, Kokichi
Kaede and Rantaro, is it fate?
the only other option is Gonta
Ves: AH FUCK
HOW DID I DO THAT BY ACCIDENT
congratulations
I mean, you could Sakura Gonta since he's definitely not doing fine
but Kaede doing nothing for the whole game is a little ooc, girlie takes the matters in her own hands
boy's not coping after ch3 either way
Ves: i was looking through my past randomizers and found a ch5 where kaede kills himiko after being tricked into thinking she's the mastermind…i could move that up to ch4. but why himiko..
Himiko's dead already tho
Ves: idk i haven't committed to that yet,,tricking kaede into thinking rantarou is the mastermind feels. cliche
what if she thinks Gonta is the mastermind since he got away with murder
Ves: what kind of fucking machine would bbygirl have to build to take out GONTA
poisonous insects???
she's just setting up a trap still, a wrong person could walk in it, she sets it up at Gonta's lab but Rantaro walks in for something
Ves: NOT AGAIN [sob emoji] THAT'S SO FUNNY ACTUALLY
SHSL UNLUCKY RANTAROU REAL
yes, she releases something venomous in his lab, little buggie just wanders off
or it does get Gonta, cause. He would be so devastated when he finds out that he was the one supposed to die. Literally so much worse for him than dying
Ves: HOW DID THIS WHOLE THING TURN INTO GONTA BULLYING
I CAN'T HAVE HIM ACCIDENTALLY KILL SOMEONE AND HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DIE IN HIS PLACE THAT'S OBSCENE
my poor son [sob emoji]
back to Sakura arc, he finds out about the attempt without anybody getting hurt
Ves: i'll figure it out in the shower probably
update: i took a shower and didn't figure it out [pensive emoji]
Sini: Maybe keep the idea of Gonta killing Himiko and Kaede killing Gonta, and then have Rantaro die because he broke the rules in some way? You could pull a Mukuro on him
I got another idea too, what if Rantaro kills Kaede
if you were to use the card key motive again, what if he gets ahold of it, frustrated just like others with Angie insisting they just don't use it and stay there forever when it could be an exit or used to reveal mastermind's identity, so he steals it from her and finds out about the end of the world, so he snaps, "we should have died with everyone" kind of thing, Kaede is the easiest target to start with (if Himiko is already out) since she's weaker than him and trusting (unlike Ouma)
Sini: What if….You mixed the two?
Like, Kaede is the one in Rantaro’s place, whose character throughout the game has been kind of regressing as time has gone on. Growing more pessimistic and untrusting. She would also be eager to know if the key could reveal the mastermind’s identity in any way, since she’s been looking for them since day one and growing more paranoid and bitter about it. Once the key card motive is revealed, she steals it from Angie and parallels Gonta in that she believes the others should all die.
She could still kill Gonta because she finds him suspicious, and if he’s not, then he’s actually a pretty easy target to lure. She also might want to kill him because she believes it’s what he deserves after what he did (in that case, the character regression would be very real). Or, she could go full Gonta, and believe killing Gonta is best because he was the nicest of the group and has already gone through sm pain that he deserves to die first/not through execution.
I feel like Kaede would definitely be the type to take the burden of living if she had to
having more time in the game Kaede's whole preaching cooperation and trust would slowly crumble away, seeing how in canon she was trying to reassure herself as much as the others at the start and failed to, coming to conclusion that she needs to do something herself, that Shuichi's plan is not enough, that she's not going to hope Kaito's group comes up with something. Here she had time to simmer in it and get so much worse
and I'd love to see that, let her run out of positive things to say, hang outs to distract herself with, mantras to fall asleep to and hopes that all of that was a bad dream. She can't keep waiting for something to happen and then the next thing that happens is another murder instead of the awaited rescue, to get out she is going to make it happen
guess, she was wrong when she got there, maybe you can't trust people, maybe they're all out for blood, maybe somebody else is already planning her demise
Sini: Yeah….
And there’s no point. The world is destroyed
There’s no home to go back to
She might as well take a chance at killing the one person she can suspect as the mastermind
she regressed so far that she reached the pg Kaede mindset, no faith in humanity, they're all capable of murder, perhaps they're there because they deserve it
Sini: YES! If even Gonta can kill…Nobody is safe. Nobody can be trusted
She kills him with the poisonous bug, but the others wouldn’t know that until ways into the trial. They might think it’s classic poison. Calling back to canon chapter 4 with the poison left on the seat. Both are diversions
if they all die, then there will be no more humanity, no more cruelty, betrayal after betrayal, it'll be over
Kaede humming "no children" by mountain goats while picking out a poison to plant on the crime scene
Sini: Imagine for a moment Kaito is framed, again? Cause he’s the ultimate detective, the poison might’ve came from his lab
Sini: Also, this would hurt Kokichi sm. He’s already been questioning himself with the reveal of Gonta being the second culprit. He’s alive and he doesn’t know if he can even look at him anymore…
His feelings on the matter conflicting with one another. And then to later find that he’s dead? O O F
framing Kaito is a good idea, but also what if she staged it as a suicide, really take Kokichi out of investigation with a gut punch
imagine he said some shit to Gonta after the 3rd trial
he'd blame himself
Sini: So I was thinking with this that maybe Rantaro doesn’t vote for Kaede in chapter 4 because if the world is really destroyed, then his sisters (if still lost in this au) are most certainly dead. However, I don’t think he would do that unless he was 100% certain that the world was destroyed. He’d have to see it for himself to truly believe, as he has his doubts on the legitimacy of all this.
So what if in chapter 5, if they all see the outside world and later become depressed, TW Rantaro actually commits to killing himself? He’d do it in front of everyone so that there is no case to solve.
The guilt and grief he’d feel….He’d see no point in living anymore. He might even feel guilty for not being able to be useful in preventing the murders or doing more to uncover the truth. He’d consider himself a failure in every way.
Maybe he does so through breaking another rule? Again, typical Mukuro, but just done on purpose
no 4th survivor, huh
Ves, reading up after leaving for a bit:
well first of all i think im never leaving you to babysit an au again. second of all AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
kaedeee :((( also rantarou :((((( also gonta :((((((-
you did not leave anyone untouched huh
Sini: HEY! IT’S UP TO YOU!
Rantaro doesn’t have to die, that’s just if you want to keep the survivor count the same as in canon
Ves: i think im gonna up the survivor count…maybe by making ch3 a single murder? nnnn. kaede killing gonta is sounding real good though
Sini: She could still do so, just maybe it’s as simple as Gonta is an easy target and he’s the nicest so he should be spared an awful death
Ves: NSHJDBGHSGDD….she said fuck ALL YALL except for you gonta you're an angel and we're all glad you're here-
i think abt the gonta&himiko scene where he asks how he can help and she tells him he radiates so much mana he can just stand there and it'll help her
simply Having A Gonta Around does wonders for magic
Sini: IT DOES
But man, that just reminds me how sad Gonta killing Himiko is
If you make it where just Korekiyo is the culprit, maybe have him kill Himiko instead. That way we can have the Tenmiko angst, just reverse. Also, we’d get Tsumugi as a survivor, which I think has potential. Let Tsumugi have a character arc!
that would made ch4 weaker, but ig that would mean Himiko getting Angie'd since he only had a motive to kill Tsumugi?
Ves: i think maybe. do something to make gonta think of it as his fault even if he didn't directly off someone
but think about Kokichi's character arc
Ves: AH FUCK I FOROT ABT THAT
maybe he kills kiyo????
no execution on a technicality bc kiyo killed first,,
then he'd get executed cause monokuma wouldn't have anyone else to execute? Like Celeste?
Ves: there wasn't the first come first serve rule in that game though
"Rule #15: If two different murders by different murderers occur at the same time, only the one whose victim was found first will be the blackened." do i have to HIDE kiyo then?? what vague wording
and in ndrv3, Monokuma only introduced the rule in ch3, knowing what happened to sow distrust
but Gonta wouldn't want to get away with murder, so he wouldn't hide the body
Ves: but i also wanted to have more survivors :[
Sini: Mind you, Kokichi can still have that moment to himself cause Shuichi exists. But Gonta being a killer could do wonders for his character as well.
If you have it where Kiyo kills Himiko and Gonta kills Kiyo, then it’s very likely Gonta could still get executed cause he’s the only culprit left alive.
then stick the the og idea, you can save Rantaro instead of Tsumugi
Ves: so like. himiko runs away from the crime scene, gonta tries to catch her, breaks her spine like a rabbit at the vet?
nothing's going to have the same impact, this is good because it's Gonta and she isn't even the culprit and he doesn't get executed
this is what hits the spot for character arcs for Tenko, Kokichi and Kaede (her last fucking nail) and anything else would be softening the blow, that's no what DR is about, hit them with the hammers
Ves: you're right and i hate it ○| ̄|_
kokichi doesn't make up with gonta bc of his own pride and then gonta FUCKING DIES, and that feeds nicely into his forgiveness for shuuichi…i see the vision
(edited by Ves)
and to finish it off, my take on the Themes in the AU:
what an interesting theme for the entire season it paints, the power struggle, having people who try to define and control you, use you for entertainment vs the abused, overcoming, getting from under the shoe SWINGING, finding ways to be their own person. Tenko's crisis would fit in nicely, and have parallels with Kaede's arc downwards. They both start as leader types that might come over a little bit too strong, Tenko loses faith in herself, Kaede loses faith in people, Tenko gives up on leading and falls in step with others, Kaede gives up on others and starts acting on her own, behind their backs. Kaede wants to make the decision for everyone that life's no longer worth it. Angie wants to decide what's best for everyone. Kaito wants to decide their lives, treating them like puppets. But their lives are their own. And true leadership is guidance, not force. Shuichi is the tragic example, showing how important having community is to be able to stand a chance against abusive authority.
well, for M1-U it might be more dying on her own terms at best, would be cool if she self-destructed after getting hauled-off to the execution of found a way to make the execution go differently than Monokuma intended
Sini: Shuichi had access to community but couldn't truly be a part of it due to how Kaito controlled him. You could maybe contrast that with Kokichi who goes through a positive arc of letting people in and teaming up with others more. Him representing what a good leader could look like
it was too little, too late for Shuichi
Sini: OOOOO! YEAH! That's perfect! She died doing her own thing and by her own hands
OH SHIT! That's actually really poetic. Cause in canon, Kaito is the one who died on his own and not by Monokuma's hands. Now he's the villain who got beat by his own alternative actions
Ves: haha loser
get thematically reversed
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Fulgrim 5
Craftworld time
the description is actually pretty decent I'm just burning out on McNeill Prose (tm)
FINALLY I GET DECENT ELDAR CLOTHING DESCRIPTION!!!!
so yeah Eldrad's been getting visions
of something just as bad as the Fall coming
okay so they got the path system set up as per this book
also we have a time measure
"centuries"
which doesn't sound like a huge indicator but when dealing with 40ks timespan it actually is
then again why am i looking for consistency in the timeline in this of all novels
why do i bother
also, eldrad is like the only adult in this entire novel im praying he stays that way
he sees the doom of humanity and is basically Big Pensive Emoji
it's also funny in a way that the bits of 40k with the most hope in them have been from the Eldar POV
(I'm thinking about Valedor and yeah I know this is doomed here but, it's still here!)
he gets a vision of Horus though he's not able to recognize him
finally he's able to get the word "Warmaster"
well, the diasporex didn't go out without a fight
only 1 ship in the entire dual fleet didn't take any damage
huh i'm surprised they actually left the humans alive, just sent them off to be slave labour
and yes it actually used the term
har har har
if you're not familiar it's almost a direct quotation from Paradise Lost
Julius is thinking about philosophy again, after training
also im like
i'm pretty sure McNeill's got a decent education in the classics (HELLO IRENAEUS MENTION) also this whole thing with Blayke, the way it's talked about
but I guess that doesn't actually mean you can write
OH SAUL POV
MCNEILL DO NOT BLOW THIS
take a shot every time the word "perfect" is used in this novel
i was about to say Get Thee To A Thesaurus then I remembered what McNeill is like when he gets thesaurus access…
we get a little bit of a summary of what went down on Murder with the EC
for those who didn't read the earlier book or just forgot what happened lol
tfw you are a dance kid hanging out with the basketball team
but also...to steal a quote from a friend of mine, maybe you wouldn't be so exhausted if you had actual strategy
no literally it is exactly the reason why they got exhausted
iirc saul was like the only one who came up with decent tactics
unfortunately his commander is eidolon
like textually! it's why the luna wolves yelled at eidolon
for all his faults Abnett is probably the best of these writers with respect to verisimiltude in military tactics
first off, the nose ISNT BONE
ITS CARTILAGE
more and more i am beginning to think that mcneill doesn't know a single thing about the human body
unless…are astartes supposed to have the cartilage in their noses replaced with bone???
also it's really easy to fix a broken nose on a normal person just unpleasant (re-break and set properly)
also what lesson in humility like dude that's not what he learned from it....
when fulgrim does it, it's genuis
when eidolon does it, it's stupid
also lmao eidolon tells the story and saul is o_0 because he's twisting the facts so much
lucius: hmph loken didn't beat me
saul:…you were flat on your back
lucius: it doesn't count!
lucius, my dude
Solomon comes over because he saw Saul's face when Eidolon was telling the story
he really wants the tea here
solomon: you know, i know, the serfs know that eidolon's a blowhard
lucius: gasp
also lucius don't you hate eidolon, shouldn't this be like a "secretly delighted gasp"
you guys are having this conversation and confrontation in front of literally everyone
they're doing this at the dinner table
sadly lucius was infected with the childishness virus
solomon already was so that's nothing new
you know what, i'd want to punch Solomon too, Lucius manages to resist
and then goes off to hang out with Eidolon, who is uhhhh canonically his rival
learn what
also man, Saul, that's your friend, I know he's kind of a dick but still
okay we will not be doing war crimes today, they found a beautiful planet with no intelligent life
solomon thinks sadly about how the imperium is going to destroy this beautiful world and convert it to industry and this is just as obnoxious as the DO YOU GET IT THEYRE FASCISTS so I will spare you
back to Ostian and everrything is small c chaos with the remembrancers getting ready to do Becky's opera
he hasn't seen Serena in weeks either
if you haven't read any of it, how do you know it's bad?
begone coomer
ostian remembers how he got jumpscared by fulgrim recently
silver and copper? tsk
you'd think someone like fulgrim would know not to mix metals
also red and purple shot silk with silver is also a Choice
anyways fulgrim can carve but he can't bring it to life like ostian
so he wants ostian's help
fulgrim eventually gets him to try and be honest
ostian: the perfect is the enemy of the good
fulgrim: and i took that personally
y-yearning? ok
ostian figures out that fulgrim didn't actually want constructive criticism, he wanted validation
we've all met that guy, I think
heck, I've been "that guy". sometimes after asking for concrit I've realized that what I actually just wanted was validation and gone off and sulked a bit lol
but Fulgrim here is....
gifted kid syndrome
i know the feeling but how old are you again??
anyways i do find that the bits that dig into art and the artists are some of the most emotionally true parts of this novel
if a bit er
over the top in a way that sometimes obscures it
oh lucius wants to talk to Ostian
Ostian: I know who you are
Lucius: :D
lucius just wants ostian to show him to serena so she can paint him lol
so i guess fulgrim is like me fr except that, you know, i decided even if it was visible it wasn't enough of a disaster for me to need to redo it, and I was happy with it anyways, and I'd be more careful with how much floss I cut next time
i do think a lot of it can be traced back to the gifted kid syndrome but it doesn't explain everything?
because fulgrim's been into art for what two hundred odd years
Fabius has become the less cool version of Doc Ock
um guys
perhaps you should have sorted this out before eidolon was lying naked on your operating table??
eidolon doesn't want alien stuff in his throat
fabius: well too late now lmaooo
why does he even need to be naked for this if it's a throat operation....
update: already drugged and restrained on the operating table
eidolon, you should really have gotten this sorted out beforehand
this scene is like
genuinely uncomfortable
okay phew! we're back to solomon
on the alien planet and fulgrim is crying from how beautiful the ruins are
"this is the most beautiful scene i've even seen!!"
julius, also sobbing nods along
solomon: is he on drugs
solomon: are they all on drugs
fulgrim: we must leave it! untouched! to despoil it would be a crime!~
solomon: uhhh what about our job
fulgrim: ARE YOU QUESTIONING ME
this whole thing is stupid solomon is like "how are they all going along with basically disobeying the emperor"
hey what if i did funny abridged versions of the horus heresy novels that might be fun
anyways all the other planets in the system are like this
solomon is the only one who feels like sth is wrong
well also saul
solomon talks to vespasian after eidolon won't return his calls
they're both worried about the legion
vespasian: lol sure why would he do that
solomon: why don't you ask him about that huh???
vespasian is gonna ask fulgrim
im sure that'll go well
oh serena pov
she's deeply stressing about her portraits of fulgrim and lucius
ugggggghhhhhhh she's moved from using blood to other bodily fluids as well
serena: IT WORKS FOR A BIT BUT THEN IT STOPS
serena: wait
serena: i have an idea
time to seduce a poet
serena: let's talk about you
leopold: :( i get enough criticism of my poetry
serena: :) actually :) i love it :)
serena: let's go back to my studio and read some
it's pretty smelly apparently
(gee i wonder why...)
besides being an enormous mess
OKAY WHAT
i'm never going to joke about the books being sexless again
tldr
they have sex
she kills him in the middle
I thought she was just going to kill him straight away
Eldrad Ulthran save me
save me Eldrad Ulthran
(he's back)
oh right yeah re: fighting against aliens that prey on humans, they do in fact deal with proto-Drukhari
Solomon remembers fighting them alongside Luna Wolves
(context is How Do We Meet The Elves)
hey we already had this argument in Horus Rising
??????????
okay?????
like
what
is it the sword???
this is fulgrim?
the guy who earlier in the book refused to allow the laer to become a protectorate because they were aliens and needed to be destroyed?
this is the same guy?
was fulgrim briefly possessed by like an opposing spirit?
wait huh i didn't know they had wraithlords this early, i thought they were newish
live and learn
(they're having the meeting on one of the empty planets)
eldrad can't read fulgrim's fate other than to know he's a player
huh that's interesting re the primarchs
you'd think they'd have more of a presence in the warp
oh is that why Emps had trouble finding them
eldrad how exactly did you see these guys acting better….
the wraithlord is basically like "let these idiots kill each other this is not our problem"
eldrad: i know but also i saw this will be a problem for us in the future. if we don't do anything now
wraithlord: ugh fine
fulgrim got all dressed up and his makeup done for this meeting
solomon judges him internally
master of diplomacy, fulgrim
okay so he acts deliberately provocative
i genuinely don't know if we're meant to think that fulgrim's idea of diplomacy is insulting the opposite party and otherwise antagonizing them in order to get a casus belli with them getting so offended they withdraw from talks first
or if it's just bad writing
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