#rc theory

[rosesandpearlss]

For fun, I have tried identifying the creatures from the CGs of Ghita’s mom from The Missing

• Thai version: The Krasue (a female spirit with floating intestines)

• Polish version: The Strzyga/Striga (a female demon-vampire hybrid)

• Ghanaian version: The Asanbosam/Sasabonsam (a vampire with hook like extremities)

• Greenlandic version: The Draugr (a pale and bony zombie like creature)

Interestingly, all those mythical creatures share traits of vampirism, notably consuming human blood or flesh. Vampire figures have also been associated with the symbolism of greed. The author has hinted that there won’t be supernatural elements to the story, which could be that Ghita’s hallucinations are related to folkore creatures and their symbolism. In the case of her mother, it could be a representation of her past catching up to her OR she was targeted by a cult with bad intentions.

[liittleemiixeer]

Okay, so let’s talk about the immortals and the serum because I swear something is not adding up, or rather it's adding up too well lmao.

The recent shift in Anhea's behavior isn’t just a coincidence, and I’m willing to bet my wheel of fortune spin that the serum she gets injected routinely has something to do with it. First of all, immortals were always described as distant and detached from the mundane world, almost like they were operating on an entirely different emotional frequency. Anhea, who was always pragmatic and painfully logical in her mannerisms and actions, she who always kept her distance is now shielding the other girls with her wings like it’s instinct, grieving for kira, and even offering to go inspect unexplored places first. That’s not just a change in attitude, but something deeper, something internal. Even Pileon, who didn't take the serum as far as we know (correct me if I'm wrong), looked surprised at her behavioral change.

And here’s where my theory about the serum kicks in.

We already know that Adam base, aka Donovan, was running experiments on immortals before the collapse of the base. The squad found documents that hinted at it, and honestly, it makes too much sense. I'm not a scientist by any means, but if humans were developing medicine (or any other chemical concoction) specifically for immortals, wouldn’t they need some kind of common biological link to make it work? So, what if the serum is a mix of human and immortal DNA? Or maybe they infused immortal blood or dna with human ones... idk, but certainly something of the sort. This fusion would basically act as a genetic bridge that, when injected into an immortal, might not just heal them, but it could also be changing them emotionally speaking. Softening whatever kept them so detached and making them more human, or akin to experience and/or understand human emotion.

Hell, even Lane found Cain's behavior strange, nicer and chattier, just after he took the serum to heal the wound he suffered when he took that bullet for Anhea in the boat attack. He's now smiling more, acknowledging past conflicts, and even reaching out first? He even found the courage to confess that he and Lane knew each other.

Think about it: Cain and Anhea aren’t just suddenly nicer. They’re feeling things more openly: protectiveness, camaraderie and friendship, even self-sacrifice, things that seemed rare before. And what if that’s not a side effect but the intended one? If the goal was to create something that helps immortals heal, maybe that “healing” extends beyond the physical. Maybe the experiments' goal was to undo whatever made them so emotionally distant in the first place in order to tame them; to be able to inflict fear in them so it becomes easier for the government/military to make them submit and become valuable assets.

But then that raises the question: If Cain and Anhea are just now showing these changes, does that mean the effects of the serum build over time? Imagine how much time has passed since the beginning of the experiments... There could be dozens of immortals out there experiencing the same changes. If this theory is right, then we’re looking at something way bigger than just medicine. We’re looking at the weaponization of immortals. Because if this serum is making them more human… what happens if they keep taking it? How much of their immortality is actually tied to that detachment? And at what point do they stop being what they are? And if the military or the government actually manage to finish the experiment and really create an army of immortals... they're so cooked lol

[nesrinslittleworld]

I think I know why the huge wave was trying to destroy the Fatih Bridge in Episode 4! And it isn't about Vlad.

So Mehmed Soydan can only appear in between the day and the night; that is, during the twilight. And the first time, he was warned by the rumbling of stones in Anadolu Hisarı that he overstayed his welcome.

When the sound happens, Mehmed (who fell for "the stranger" thing, seriously. I'd have called him by his name 20 times already 😂) immediately knows the sun has set, and that he has to go back to wherever he comes from (*cough*the East wing of the Yalı *cough*). Why? Well most probably he also stroke a deal with Memphis, both to get Constantinople, and to wait for Lale's reincarnation (which would explain his precise questions such as: 'is this your first time in Turkey' and 'but Turkish blood flows in your veins" to which he muttered a "so this is true" when Laia confirmed she had turkic origins).

Anyway, to go back to my present theory, when the gang is in Rumeli Hisarı and Mehmed takes all the company on board his yacht, he KNOWS it's going to be bloody night, but no walls can take him away from his beloved Lale/Laia is there aren't any floor or walls 😏 so he just goes with a cruise on the Bosphorus. That's why he's so adamant in going like immediately.

And then, whoever has a hold on him just punish him for overstaying among everyone after sunset, threatens him by striking the bridge named after him as a message. It's clearly 'you disobey me? Then I'll destroy you and your legacy and man will people get hurt'

And then, Mehmed disappears because he couldn't outsmart that guy and coincidentally the wave just fade out as soon as he leaves.

[haitianempress]

I have a theory...

Ok so now that we know Amen's back story and everything I kind of have a hunch on who the Shesmu that killed his parents are. So in the final scene before his mom is killed she mentions the killer having a child...

So that means that they are Shesmu too. The only other Shesmu around Amen and Eva's age are Ramesses and Remmao (I have no idea how old this man is lol) so one of them could be the "brat" in question. It would explain why Amen chose their group out of all the classes to bring back to Thebes. And why they were tracking Remmao down for so long.

I have another hunch on who it could be lol...I don't know why but for some reason I think it could be Livius (yes I know he's Greek) given that Amen doesn't like him and their relationship is rocky. Not to mention for some reason he still remembers Set wtf. And Set did say he's special somehow 👀

But I could really be talking out of my behind and none of this is even close lmao

[haruyuki728]

I wonder if The Missing got inspired by The Chestnut Man, A Danish crime series on Netflix.

[rosesandpearlss]

Since there has been many hints concerning Edmund identity, im guessing it will be revealed that “Edmund” isn’t his real name at some point (just like how MC real name is Roxane)

Confession:

why are edmund and edward both in one story? like, isn't one of the first rules in writing is that you don't make two character names sound the same? idk i keep checking who's who between them 😭

[kazu-naito]

deep diving into the angel hierarchy of heaven's secret:

disclaimers: a) most of what i'm writing here are my own thoughts and theories; b) i'm not yet caught up with the abh january update, so if there is anything missing from there i'll add it later on

in the original duology we never got much information about how the angels hierarchy work in this universe and only knew a few names, however we did get the full picture in hsr and the order goes: seraphims > cherubs > thrones > supremacy > authority > beginning > archangels > angels

so far into the hs we've only met representatives of 3 of these 'classes' (aside from regular angels ofc) and i put one for each here:

(moreover, keep in mind these rankings are not exclusively set by birth, as we've seen rebecca climbing from the very bottom to the very top)

now it differs a bit from most of the christianity angel rankings, in which supremacy and beginning don't exist, no alternate names that i found had these names but i don't think it matters. in this context they would be replaced by dominions and principalities, respectively. still going by these, there's an omission of virtues but they do what they gotta do (or maybe they belong to that empty spot in the middle)

going back to heaven's secret, the only visible difference between angels of different spheres is that those of the first sphere have yellow/golden wings, whereas everyone else has common white/fair wings. a good example is fencio, who lost his throne status and therefore - the colour of his wings as well

i also don't think they would've shown us the full ranking if it wasn't gonna be explored more, after all we went years without it with no issues. and it was only the angel's that was revealed, not the demons' as well

from the new characters we only know of mikael's ranking so far - archangel. which tbf makes it a bit hard to guess everyone else but here are some theories:

raphael: although he is not mikael's blood brother he could still also be an archangel. throughout the book we see he has a special connection to heaven and formidable power - he could be a regular angel with unusual abilities. i don't think he is higher ranking than mikael since he is his 'subordinate'

somnus/furius: higher ranking than mikael. i haven't seen the wings to put them amongst the actual big shots but if i had to guess i'd put them in the second sphere - they have enough power to be an archangel's superior but if they had actual power they'd be busy ruling heaven and not supervising earthly matters

anhea: regular angel. she has said it herself she fought the war against the mother of life on the outskirts while the big names were in the frontlines

edit feb/25: anhea confirmed she is a lower ranking angel

cain: everything about him is a mystery ngl. if we are to believe pileon's words about him going against his own family, the type of power he possesses, the easy superiority in fights/energy/strength against other immortals - i would say he is in the very least an archangel. the recent confirmation that his family is indeed dead (and he was very very likely responsible) made me think he either got a lenient punishment (which wouldn't happen if he wasn't 'important') or he got a punishment similar to fencio's and lost his original ranking. or maybe he's just old idk

[sirin-solitude]

THE THREE SISTERS (HANNAH, LADA, VEREYA) — Speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil ● And the Haze Will Take Us

[raleigh-edward]

I have a feeling that Voice of God path is related to Shepha and Whisper of the Devil is related to Shephamalum. It's already somewhat there in the name.

And if I'm not wrong according to HS1 Shepha created the light and angels and Shephamalum created the darkness and the demons. Later, Shephamalum created humans so they would worship him and make him more powerful than Shepha. The humans ended up worshipping Shepha because he was kind to them, which tipped the balance in Shepha’s favor and he imprisoned Shephamalum in the dungeon where Malbonte later stayed.

They say the book of apocalypse was written by Shepha and I feel depending on the path HSR MC takes, it's the energy of either brothers directing her to translate it.

The energy that MC exhibits is also different on each path, Mind Control on Whisper of the Devil and Strength on Voice of God path which to me seems similar to Shephamalum granting part of his powers to Malbonte.

I'm pretty sure MC is not human, or is partly human. Cain remembers her from before and seemed to want her to have her memory back, that along with her abilities makes it very likely that she's immortal deviant of some sort. I wouldn't be surprised if Lane turns out to be one of Malbonte and Vicky's descendants.

Also the order could be the same one from HS2 that the immortals like Rebecca and Eragon created to combat the horsemen. The humans did have that knowledge since Hunger let them in on their secrets.

[audreys-alpha-demon]

their love story hurts me so bad. if someone asks me "damn, who hurts you?" it's them. they hurt me. they are so "loving you is a losing game" coded. the way no matter what path she took, she will always be on the path that is against him. and lovers who HAD to be on the opposite side in any kind of event could actually kill me on the spot. I'm not even attempting to joke around rn. the way their nature is opposed to each other but they were still drawn by each other. LIKE HE KNEW WHO SHE WAS AND STILL PATIENTLY WAITING FOR HER TO COME CLEAN WITH IT HERSELF. HE DIDN'T FORCE HER LIKE HE DID WITH OTHERS. AND THE WAY THEY'RE NOT EVEN ENEMIES, THEIR NATURE FORCED THEM TO BE ONE. SOMEONE TAKE THEM AWAY FROM ME, I CAN'T BREATH WHEN I'M READING THEIR SCENES. I JUST CAN'T

[taemcains]

the theory that lane is actually somewhat infected and is in an in-between state of being alive and being fully infected is so interesting. if they're keeping her as a living subject that's going to be terrifying

[liittleemiixeer]

I know this theory has already been thought but I wanna delve deeper into it. I think the man who appears at the end of s2 ep1 is Abel. I know there have been theories about him being a demon hunter, but some of the reasons I'm not that sure he is one are tied to the circumstances of his appearance and the context provided by the narrative.

[long rant ahead hehehe]

Both look unusually pale and have a similar face structure, and the contrast of white hair vs. black hair makes me believe he might be the abel to his cain lmao. The contrast suggests an obvious juxtaposition, as if they were meant to be two sides of the same coin.

We know Cain hasn’t visited Heaven in a long time, and his strained relationships with the other immortals hint at a larger, unresolved conflict (they basically gossip about him going against his own family). AND let's not forget the deeper context here. In the biblical narrative, they're the first children of Adam and Eve. Then, Cain kills Abel out of jealousy after God favors Abel's offering over his own. But what if in HSR Abel never truly died? What if he survived and is now on a mission to confront his brother, perhaps to stop him from causing further destruction or to seek vengeance for what he did to him?

If Abel somehow endured, it would make sense for him to appear now, especially after we’ve just learned about Cain’s alternative, more destructive form. Besides, the fact that Pileon, a demon, is the one who finds him is rather telling. If this character were a demon hunter, it seems unlikely that a demon would be the one to discover him in such a vulnerable state—bloodied, weakened, and seemingly at the end of a fierce battle. The timing of this man’s arrival—just as we uncover Cain's darker nature—is too precise to be coincidental.

As a philologist, plotwise, him being Abel would certainly make sense in the context of the story's themes—of survival, moral conflict, and the struggles between heavenly and demonic forces in a world devastated by apocalyptic events. His return could add a layer of depth to the ongoing narrative, representing a force of justice or redemption against Cain's darker tendencies.

Moreover, if this mysterious character were simply a demon hunter, his appearance might lack the same emotional and thematic weight. However, as Abel, his presence would be deeply significant and would make great storytelling. He would embody not just a force of opposition against Cain, but a figure who brings moral complexity and personal stakes to the narrative. He could even represent vengeance, adding layers to the conflict between good and evil in a world ravaged by apocalyptic forces.

With all that being said, if he ends up being a demon hunter or something completely different, I'd really like to see a compelling reason for it. Something that works as a plot device that deepens it even more. Since Alexandra is doing an amazing job with HSR, I don't doubt her, she'll excel at it!!!

[interactivefictionramblings]

[Spoilers for Heaven’s Secret: Requiem.]

Regarding how Cain & Lane knew each other before. I don’t remember if I’ve shared this already; I do know there are similar theories, though, ftr. We’ve been informed that at least some of those working at Siberia Base couldn’t leave, including Lane, because of the projects they were involved in. I’ve been wondering, due to the reaction Cain has when he gets onto the medical (read: torture) chair, in the sealed room at Siberia, if Lane was forced into working on the immortal-dissection project - the “Adam project,” iirc. Once Dimitry had unlocked the service door in General Lloyd’s office, we get the description that there’s many floors down.

I’ll come back to why that matters.

In the beginning of the story and later, like with the reveal of Boris’ betrayal, Lane references how she used to be. She used to be the Lane with Compassion (thus, when you unlock it, you get the banner you’ve reawakened your compassion). She used to care about others.

From what I recall, below is the first time we get the option to pick Voice of God or Whisper of the Devil, and Lane thinks about how she’s protecting an ember of her old-self on VoG:

Later, Lane talks about the darkness in her as being like she’s ill, and - since I was on Voice of God - she’s forcing it out like she’s got a cold.

Although I can’t say for certain if this is only on VoG or not. My point is, VoG+Compassion is, from what I can tell, canonically who Lane was before. When she first met Cain. Other theories about her being a part of the Adam project are about her lack of Humanity, actively harming Cain because she wanted to study him. But I don’t think this is something past-Lane would do. However, I do think it’s possible she was taken onto the project; with little information, most-likely. Past-Lane was just as calculating as any other Lane, so it’s difficult to say exactly what she would’ve done, but if she had the same level of compassion as when you regain it, I don’t think she would’ve been willing to let Cain or anyone else remain trapped. She’d be too horrified. So, I believe she went along with the project, then freed Cain, later framing it as Cain escaping on his own, which is how she’s still at Siberia in her last memory - when the base is collapsing, and Lloyd is seemingly shot.

I don’t think she could leave the base, they’d likely threatened her family if she ever tried.

Now, as I said, I’m coming back to why the multiple floors matter. First, some screenshots:

I already explained, but I think she helped him to escape. And this is when she first saw him lose control. The torture chamber is too small a place for Cain to go berserk and Lane to have survived, but we know the room exits right into an underground, tower-like space, with many landings for each floor. Presumably, on the last floor, Lane confronted Cain. She would’ve only gotten there after he’d killed everyone else. In the most recent episodes, we also learned that her memories with Cain connect to some time when they were seemingly surrounded by fire. In the present, he protects her as he flies them up and away from it. I’m guessing, like multiple times throughout their present relationship, it’s going to prove to be a parallel to their past one.

We also learned this update that immortals can read the minds of those they look into the eyes off. I think Cain read her mind when she tried to get through to him in the past, which brought him back to himself; because she only wanted to help. She had freed him - she wanted him to escape, before it was too late. We don’t know how much an immortal can read, exactly, from just one use of this power on someone, but his words when Lane was recovering from falling into icy water (and finding the torture chamber) were: “I once met a woman whose thoughts were much aligned with mine. They weren’t rosy, sometimes quite nauseating actually. But she amazed me; that someone could share such feelings. I remembered her. So, I took a closer look. I wanted to get to know her better, but, to be honest, I shouldn’t have. Then she disappeared.”

These are very interesting. He specifically says her thoughts aligned with his, and that their feelings were similarly shared. He also says he remembered her, and I wonder if this has any special significance, because we don’t know what he remembers when he loses control of himself - we don’t have confirmation he knew what he was doing, for instance, when he went to Lane after she called out to him, while Cain had been destroying the monks. Maybe when he read her mind, in the past, it was the first ever time he had been in that state yet actually remembered something from it. That he didn’t just remember the moments after he woke up because of her, and her thoughts, but as soon as he looked into her eyes and started using his mind-reading, which never happened before.

It sounds like he used his ability on her again, after coming back to ‘take a closer look.’ Then he started getting attached, or maybe he got the base’s attention again, or both, and so he considered it a mistake (“I shouldn’t have”).

Likely not long after, the base collapsed. But I doubt that meant he simply moved on from her. Rather, I actually think losing her - having this certainty that he no longer had the chance to see her again, even if he wasn’t planning on ever going back, after visiting her once before - is what drove Cain to join the squad. He was alone for so long, and suddenly, he had Lane, and she amazed him by making him feel as if he wasn’t alone on Earth. Then she was gone.

In the latest episode, he indicates that Lane wouldn’t want to remember how they knew each other before. If she had been forced to be complicit in his torture, and he can tell she’s repressing those memories, it makes sense.

Btw, when we see the hall of Lane’s memories, there’s three closed doors, each with an image marking it. The one farthest away has a clear symbol for Baal, imo: a skull with large spiral horns like a goat’s. One has a gun. For the last, to the left, the carving is difficult to make out. But it can be interpreted as a like a chair. Like the one in the torture chamber. A seat, a wide back, and a stand. Of course, it could also be a lamp, or a wine glass. It’s really ambiguous rn. We don’t see the chair from the front during the only scene it’s in, so it’s almost impossible to connect that the marking might be referring to it. However, if it was, it would make sense in hindsight; the symbols only make sense with context. Without the context of Lloyd being fired at, the locked door with a gun carving on it wouldn’t be guessed to hold that memory.

[midnight-in-town]

I remember that one panel from that boat trip of Kuroshitsuji from the twins flashbacks where one of the twins, possibly real Ciel looked quite upset or something when our Ciel was coughing and Rachel said that our Ciel can't go to the boat trip. Could it be that real Ciel was upset about how our Ciel won't be going (but I also remember that Rachel as well didn't want to go that trip & cancel it due to our ciel's sickness & I also remember how real Ciel excitedly went to the trip when it wasn't cancelled finally, so it couldn't be that he was upset about our Ciel being absent right?) so was real Ciel upset about our Ciel being absent or was he just upset because he felt like Our Ciel was being a burden and nuisance for being sick at a time like that (talking about the trip day) again? Thoughts?

Hey Anon ! Do you mean this scene ?

Well, I have an explanation, but I doubt it's what you're expecting. ;)

In my opinion, this scene is actually maybe more understandable if you consider the Munchausen by proxy theory [x][x], on top of the RCMT.

Basically, both theories emphasize that 1) real!Ciel was pathologically obsessed with our!Ciel and wanted him to "stay by his side forever", leading to 2) real!Ciel trying to control our!Ciel, maybe even going as far as to more or less poison him, so that our!Ciel would have to let his twin take care of him, becoming very thankful to him, thus furthering their bond (in real!Ciel's mind).

Want a proof that this theory is likely ? In ch138, Ciel realized, after that one month of abduction and torture, that he didn't get sick at all, despite living in terribly harsh conditions (cold, lack of food, physical and emotional abuse, etc).

And the one big element missing from that awful month compared to their peaceful days at home ? It's real!Ciel "taking care" of him, bringing him tea and food for his health.

Don't get me wrong, with the circus arc, we know that our!Ciel definitely had a weaker constitution that he inherited from Rachel. However, he was also probably chronically poisoned by his older brother on the side, which is why he definitely got better from the moment real!Ciel was not able to bring him food and beverages anymore.

Let's rewind back about that scene you were asking about from ch131, now : Rachel and our!Ciel were sick, so Vincent and real!Ciel, with Diedrich, cooked food for them.

Then later during the night, our!Ciel was couching, so real!Ciel brought him milk.

The following day, our!Ciel's fever was not that bad but his cough was terrible so Rachel forbade him to go boating -> how s w e e t ! more time and occasion for real!Ciel to "take care of his little brother", nurturing that special bond between them, because they're made to be "together forever". Except...

our!Ciel acted selflessly, as it is a great quality of his [x] [x] [x], and insisted the family went to enjoy a day outside, since Rachel was doing okay, while he spent the day with Tanaka.

TL;DR In this scene, I think real!Ciel expected Rachel to say our!Ciel wouldn't be able to go boating, since he's the one who triggered the coughing, leading him to spend the day taking care of his little brother yet again (in other words, controlling him), except that he didn't consider our!Ciel would strongly insist for the family to go without him.

I told you it might not be what you expected as an answer. :) I, for one, am quite convinced that real!Ciel had a pathological behavior since childhood, that is ten times amplified now that he's a bizarre doll.

Have a good day Anon!

[haitianempress]

The Masked Guy

I HIGHLY suspect that it's Yan who's the Demon Hunter. He disappears and everyone thinks he's dead then magically appears before Lane when she's outside. Just for him to disappear when Lane was going to give his umbrella back when Anna came 🌚

And he was asking Lane questions about the group that even she grew suspicious. So he knows where the squad was going to be so he was able to save Lane. Also just LOOK at him he looks like and exudes demon hunter vibes so BAD!

[kazu-naito]

is malek a nephilim?

i sat with this ask and my own reply to it for a while cause it indeed made me curious, and after discussing it with @agattthaa and @mynameisemma i've got some additional thoughts on it:

let's start with what we already know: malek was born on earth; astrea is his mother; mikael didn't sense immortal energy coming from him; immortals and mortals cannot sire children together; [small leak from the april update] baal really is his father.

now where and how do all of this tie together?

in canon hsu, astrea is a primordial angel and baal is a primordial demon — a union between them was strictly forbidden at the time, and yet it happened and she fell pregnant. the nature of their relationship was discovered and they were punished: astrea became a fallen angel - stripped of her wings and immortality - and sent to earth [tortured]

it is not clear how far along astrea was when she showed up at that monastery (not long at all but enough), and malek apparently grew up in a normal human timing as the nuns never mentioned any strange rapid growth (like what happened to rasputin in twilight)

when audrey suspected him she brought her concerns to mikael, who in turn said he did not see malek as an immortal - even concealed they can tell. during the fight in the finale he didn't show any signs of possessing wings either. now the part i find funny that ties all of this: in their sex scenes david (100% demon) and cain (100% angel) didn't use any protection and said they couldn't father children with mortals, howeverrrr malek used a condom

so in hindsight, malek was sired from an [primordials] angel and a demon - a halfbreed, but born from a human and a demon - a nephilim.