What do you think of Iron Man Volume 2? The Heroes Reborn stuff
When you asked this, I had not read any of v2 -- for any title -- beyond isolated panels, and I was fully prepared to tell you it was bad.
Then I thought, "No, I haven't actually read v2 properly, and I shouldn't just say that without having read it. I should form my own opinion. And IM v2 is only 13 issues." So I just read it.
It's still bad.
The sad thing is that it's not actually the worst comic I've read. It's bad, but it's only… medium bad? I have definitely read things that are worse than Iron Man v2. That doesn't mean it's in any way good. It's just not The Worst.
(It's The Crossing. The Crossing is worse than IM v2. If you have any other answer to "what is the worst comic book?" then I know that you have not read The Crossing because there is no other possible answer. Nothing is worse than The Crossing. Please do not take this paragraph as some kind of reverse-psychology encouragement to try to read The Crossing. It is so bad. It is bad in a way that no other comic can even approach. You will be sorry. I own it in hardcover.)
Insofar as anything would have been able to improve the IM v2 reading experience, it turns out that reading IM v2 in isolation doesn't do it a lot of favors. I didn't know this before I read any of it, but there are multiple issues that are crossovers with FF, Cap, and Avengers v2 -- and they're the kind of four-part crossover where each part is really in a different book, so it's hard to wing it. I knew that the #13 issues were Wildstorm crossovers, and in the case of IM v2 #13 specifically StormWatch (which I am familiar with in the sense that I've read The Authority so I know who Jenny Sparks is, but I don't know that I ever read the original StormWatch, because it's been a while). Anyway, it turns out that #6 and #12 are also the same kind of four-part crossover, so like a quarter of this comic is already incomprehensible crossovers! Great!
I do actually own the other three v2 series, and I could in fact have read them along with this, but I decided I had suffered enough.
The other thing I didn't realize is that these v2 series don't actually explain how everyone got back to 616. I thought they would! They did not! It turns out this is covered in Heroes Reborn: The Return, which is a separate miniseries taking place after v2 and is not the same thing as Heroes Return (either of them) which is obviously a different thing. Thanks, comics. I did go and skim that to get a general idea of the plot. It's not as bad as v2, possibly because Peter David was doing the writing, and the art is also less bad.
Because, yeah, the IM v2 art is horrendous. The best thing I can say about it is that it's not quite as bad as The Crossing and also that, luckily, IM v2 is not the v2 book Rob Liefeld was drawing, although everyone who was drawing these books appears to have wanted to be Rob Liefeld, in terms of style. But this doesn't mean you are free from horrors like this:
The IM v2 armor design is also bad. I say this as someone who does not normally care about armor in the sense that armor doesn't usually affect whether I like a run, as it does for some Iron Man fans. Is it nice if Tony has aesthetically-pleasing armor? Sure! Who doesn't want to look at nice things? But if a run has good writing, Tony could be wearing a cardboard box and I wouldn't care. In my favorite IM run, he literally lives in a cardboard box and later constructs a superhero outfit out of other superheroes' spare uniform bits!
However, the v2 armor sure got hit with the ugly stick:
So that's not… really helping.
The actual plot was-- I mean, yeah, no, it wasn't great, and it did start out with Tony being terrible and uncaring, and then approximately 50% of it was about the Hulk, who was not the character I'd come here to read about, and there were the aforementioned inexplicable crossovers.
What was left of the plot didn't make much sense, and I'm not sure if any of this was actually explained clearly in the other books, but as far as I can tell what was going on was that all the heroes here were dropped onto Counter-Earth here after fighting Onslaught, and given memories and backstories to suggest that they'd always been here, and a lot of their backstories weren't the same. In Tony's case, he wasn't the original Iron Man; this was Conner O'Reilly (Rebel), one of Tony's friends from college, who died being Iron Man. Tony then ends up being Iron Man but of course Rebel isn't really permanently dead and he comes back to fight Titanium Man with Tony. The series treats this information like you of course already knew it and it already happened, which, since comic books already do this while talking about things that did actually happen in previous comics, makes it even more incomprehensible. I spent like three issues wondering if I was actually supposed to know this character.
(Somehow Rebel shows up again in Fabian Nicieza's Thunderbolts run. IDK how, I haven't read it. I have, like, five T-Bolts books in my TBR pile. I do fully intend to read T-Bolts at some point. It just hasn't happened yet.)
I will say that the one interesting thing about reading IM v2 here was how much of it ended up in the MCU. I wasn't expecting that. I know people always say that about Ults, and I can definitely see where the MCU took some inspiration from Ults, but no one ever says that about v2. And I can see why they would do it, because both Ults and v2 are reimagined versions that are trying to tell a story that sort of evokes the feel of 616 without the reader actually needing to be familiar with decades of comics. Which is, you know, the thing the MCU wanted to do, so it makes sense. I just hadn't realized the MCU had borrowed any of this.
What did the MCU take from IM v2? Probably the most notable aspect is Tony being BFFs with Bruce Banner. Here in the v2 backstory, Tony, Bruce, Reed, Doom, and Hank all went to college together and became friends (or frenemies, in the case of Doom). Everyone on that list other than Bruce already had some kind of connection to Tony in 616. Mostly science friendship. Or, uh, science enmity, in the case of Doom. Bruce actually didn't have any connection to Tony, in 616. The Hulk leaves the Avengers in issue #3 and pretty much does not come back until after comics start getting MCU-ified. I think the Hulk being on Hickman's initial Avengers team and also Bendis' Avengers Assemble is when that started happening. So that's all starting in 2012, for sure.
Bruce does not play well with others in 616; the main team he's ever associated with is the Defenders, whose raison d'être is not playing well with others -- like, Namor's on the Defenders. 616 Tony and 616 Bruce were absolutely not BFFs and Hulk was never a regular Avenger; every so often, when they were building new teams, the Avengers called and asked him if he wanted to come back and he told them to fuck off. Tony's never, like, calling him up for advice. They're not friends. If you are here from MCU fandom, I really want to stress this. They're not friends. If Tony needs a science buddy, he probably calls Reed Richards. And yet, here, in v2, Bruce and Tony are lifelong BFFs! They were roommates in college! Tony cares deeply about him, to the point that half the plot of this series is actually about him trying to help the Hulk! I really wasn't expecting that.
The other thing in IM v2 that might look familiar to you, the MCU fan, is Tony/Pepper. They clearly have some UST all throughout v2 -- which, sure, is a thing they had in 616 -- but here, they actually sleep together, which they had never done in 616 at the time. (This actually happens in Heroes Reborn: The Return #4, if you've read IM v2 and are wondering how you missed it.) The only time Tony and Pepper sleep together in 616 is during World's Most Wanted, an arc that came out in 2009, which was clearly after IM1 and also clearly taking inspiration from IM1 because Tony gets a glowy light in his chest by the end of the arc after that one. So, yeah… it looks like MCU grabbed the canon Tony/Pepper too.
(Over in Cap v2, Steve is actually a robot fucker. He has also slept with robots on regular Earth-616. Come on, MCU! Why are you cowards?)
So, yeah. It's not by any means a great comic, but IM v2 is not the worst comic I have ever read, and it's actually kind of an interesting read from the perspective of seeing what they borrowed for MCU. I'm not saying you should run out and read this right now or anything, though. I personally took a bunch of plot notes while I was reading this just so I would never have to read it again.
Also, please enjoy this page from IM v2 #9 in which Tony brings Thor to Avengers Mansion to show him his hole.
Please note that Tony wishes that he had instead chosen to show his hole to Steve. This is all I am going to say about this.
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Odebrałam RTG kolanek. I mam jakąś fabellę. Dodatkowe kosteczki kolan.
Nie wiem czy dobrze kumam, że powinnam się udać na rezonans magnetyczny?
Powinnam czuć się wyjątkowa? Nie wiem czy to może powodować ból i sztywnienie kolan. Dziś się dowiem.
Poza tym byłam u dietetyka. No jednak się okazało, że wróciły zaburzenia odżywiania. Mam zestaw ćwiczeń do wykonania.najtrudniejsze to chyba znalezienie 10 rzeczy, które mi dojebią dopaminę.
1) trening
2) las
I to by było na tyle. Borze, kurwa, pomóżcie, błagam.
To nie mogą być przyjemności, które sprawiają przyjemność umiarkowaną, to musi być coś, co mnie wypełnia całą, coś ci czuję po treningu, kiedy wręcz ćwierkam jak ptaszek z zadowolenia.
Podobno na niektórych działa szoping. Którego osobiście nienawidzę.
3) budowanie. Serio lubię tworzyć konstrukcje, ale przecież nie mogę za każdym razem, gdy pomyślę o czekoladzie, iść i budować czegoś tam...
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20 września 2023, Środa (wczoraj)
🥪: 755 kcal
🔥: 425 kcal
💤: 8 h
📚: 3,5 h
21 września 2023, Czwartek (dzisiaj)
🥪: 675 kcal
🔥: 175 kcal
💤: 13 h
📚: 0 h
Wczoraj nie pisałam. Sorki. Atak migrenowy. Znowu. O ironio, byłam z tym u lekarza tego samego dnia, może godzinę przed. Dostałam skierowanie na rezonans magnetyczny, w zasadzie tylko żeby formalnie wykluczyć jakieś nieprawidłowości w mózgu. Bo byłam już u 3 lekarzy i każdy po kolei mówi: migrena. W dodatku tak silna, że aż płakałam z bólu. W domu była mama i fakt że było to niekomfortowe, ale nie zlinczowała mnie tak, jak gdyby to zrobiła, gdybym płakała, nie wiem, ze złości. Na przykład. Płakanie z bólu jest u mnie w domu tolerowane bardziej niż przez emocje, ale o ile na początku była troszkę zmartwiona, już za chwilę mówiła "no, może już wystarczy, bo chyba zaczynasz dramatyzować. Nie może być aż tak źle". Po prostu zamknęłam się w pokoju, żeby jej nie przeszkadzać za bardzo swoją dolegliwością.
Dzisiaj nie szłam do szkoły, spałam do 10:30. Niby przespałam ponad połowę doby, a już od 17 marzę żeby się położyć... Trochę mnie to martwi, nie powiem. To chyba nie jest normalne żeby być AŻ TAK sennym.
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Just read invincible iron man #4 and I really wanna get your thoughts on Duggans run so far?
I am really, really enjoying it so far! I think it's the best Iron Man run we've had in years, and I think Duggan really gets Tony as a character and has definitely done the reading. I like how he is committed to portraying Tony as a kind and generous human being which I feel like hasn't been something Marvel has done since, like, 1998.
I love all of the retro flashbacks and am looking forward to whatever is coming up that is going to involve WCA flashbacks, judging by the cover art. I should probably read more WCA.
And while "villain attempts to take over Tony's company and Tony loses everything" has definitely been done before, I feel like you can't go wrong with the classics -- that's a plot I've always liked for Tony.
I haven't read Duggan's X-Men run, which is where Feilong is from, so I feel like I probably don't have much to say about him as a villain until I read that. The people who try to take over Tony's company tend to be either people who have done it repeatedly for years (Justin Hammer, Morgan Stark) or people who didn't canonically exist before that arc (Obadiah Stane), although Tony is right that generally they are dead. (I don't think Morgan is dead, though? IDK. Haven't seen him in a while. Zeke Stane is still alive.)
So Feilong being someone who has existed for a bit already in the Marvel universe, being evil, just not in Tony's orbit, seems new for Tony, and I think the dynamic where they don't really seem to know each other all that well is interesting. I have Duggan's X-Men on my to-read list, so I will have to see what I think of him as a villain after I see more of him. Tony also doesn't usually have a whole lot of mutant overlap -- I mean, sure, in the big events, not usually in his solo book -- so this will be interesting.
But on the whole, I think it's great, and I'm really excited to see where this is going.
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Impreza była udana. Pobawiłam się i potańczyłam. Był spory wybór sałatek, więc jedzeniowo też byłam zadowolona. Jadłam i piłam jak wolny człowiek. Bez liczenia kalorii, ale też bez rzucania się na jedzenie. Po prostu to, na co miałam ochotę i tyle, na ile miałam ochotę. To mega fajne uczucie.
Zrobiłam rezonans głowy i mam wyniki. Z tego co rozumiem, to mam 2 niezłośliwe nowotwory (chłoniaki jamiste) i jakiś martwy obszar w mózgu (prawdopodobnie przez niedokrwienie). Do tego sporo asymetrii. Nie wiem czy jest się czym martwić. Neurolog za 2 miesiące. Przynajmniej wiem, że moje migreny mają jakiś powód.
Martwię się synkiem. Ostatnio terapeutka powiedziała, że nie zachowuje się jak inne dzieci z autyzmem. Podejrzenia idą na mutyzm wybiórczy z elementami autyzmu. Mamy obserwować.
Wkurza mnie pogoda. Mniej się ruszam i łapią mnie przeziębienia. Waga stabilnie. Jest ile było. Przy chorobie zwiększam kaloryczność. W końcu to nie wyścigi.
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