#rooting for them

[plumadot]

fan favourites (it's me i'm the fan)

[winterxgardener]

Courtney is in her girlhood, domestic, and thriving era. Check out Courtney's recent IG post and show some love! 💚

[t-rina]

when your crush makes a move and your sister can't help teasing you <3

[danmeigirl]

: Not my edit

[chin-chin-chu]

These two neurodivergents had better chemistry in a scene than all other couples in basically 3 seasons!!!!

Go argue with the wall

[dimenirvana]

I love them 🥹💞

[stoopid-turtle]

On the Acceptance of Unsteady Ground

Throughout this whole dive into turtle world, I've been very conscious of just how LITTLE access to information I have. I'm relying so heavily on English translations and platforms, and most of these are from turtles, so I'm fully aware I'm getting a biased perspective.

I've tried to read stuff from solos or even just neutral third-parties. The neutral parties don't have much depth of information, though, and I found solos heavy on accusations and declarations but light on actual...evidence. And they sometimes use some really nasty rhetoric against the idea that gg and dd might be gay.

Don't get me wrong, turtles get weird too. There's plenty of clearly false rumors, deceptively edited videos, silly stretches of logic, weird ideas of what how people in a relationship would act, etc. But there's at least enough English-speaking turtles that I can find some who are giving open and, as far as I can tell, accurate information (honestly, I find tumblr turtledom better at that then other platforms). I haven't really found a similar pocket of solo fans.

I'm also aware that there's always going to be a limit on how much I can know. I don't speak the language, so I'm always relying on translators. I have limited access to Weibo (even putting aside the language barrier, I'm in text confirmation limbo in actually getting an account), and I have little familiarity with the culture. I don't get a lot of the jokes or references, and stuff may strike me, an English-speaking American, differently than it would someone in China.

Add on top of that the fact that I'm trying to find out purposely obscured information about two celebrities, and, yeah, I'm fully aware that I'm on unsteady ground here. I can do my best, but I'm never going to know anything for certain.

But I've become okay with that.

It took a while. The dissatisfaction with the unknown (and unknowable) is what drove a lot of my early fixation and subsequent fall into the turtle pit. But now, especially after laying out my thoughts, I've reached a zen place with it. I'm 100% certain ggdd were together during filming/promo, and I'm 95% certain they're still together (I had this at 85% originally, but then the whole dd being sick and gg changing his schedule thing happened and I'm just...welp, guess I'm in this confidence interval, then).

Just having that certainty means I can enjoy updates from them without anguishing about "proof" or uncertainty. Oh, gg took the day off on dd's birthday? That's really sweet! I'm not gonna fuss about if it's coincidence ENOUGH to convince me, because I'm already convinced. It's a good place to be.

I typically don't care about celebrities. In fact, I've long been bewildered by celebrity culture here in the US, and I've often been actively annoyed when people assume/expect me to have opinions on things celebrities do. I'm the nerd who doesn't get why the actors get all the attention when the writer or director would be much more interesting.

So the fact that I've gone all fangirlish over two celebrities is bizarre to me, and I appreciate the irony. Well done, me. I attribute some of it to just being able to watch the bts and see their early interactions play out like a story. I find stories compelling, and both gg and dd are charismatic, attractive and have great chemistry. Whatever disdain I have for celebs, I do love a romance.

In my foray into the ggdd world, though, I've also had to learn more about c-ent, and y'all. It's nuts. Like, US entertainment is nuts too, but c-ent ratchets it up to 11. I've been in fandom a long time, and I thought I'd seen some weird stuff, but it's got nothing on c-ent. Just wrapping my head around the culture these guys are in took a lot of learning.

But I appreciate being able to dive into this culture and this country, because I knew very little about China beyond the antagonistic politics. It's been refreshing to get a view on life on the ground in China to humanize the folks there and get a clearer picture of the country.

I started this thing bc I had been spending so much time on Youtube watching clips, and I had thoughts and opinions and nowhere to put them. I already had a tumblr that I use to lurk on some fandoms and I had started following turtles too. I figured tumblr would be a decent place to splurge out my thoughts, so I set up a throwaway account to do so.

I get the vibe that a lot of new turtles come to bjyx through the same route I took? They watch The Untamed on Netflix. They get curious about the show and start watching some clips on YT. Next thing you know, they have 3 playlists full of purported "proof of love" and they need a whiteboard to connect everything together and their wife thinks they've gone completely bonkers supports them in all their oddities.

Like, I was really confused by turtles at first. I was just trying to watch bts videos on YouTube and I didn't know what bjyx meant, but the videos with the label were weird and had strange disclaimers that they were "only for turtles" and I had no clue what that even meant.

My confusion continued as I tried to read more. The fake story disclaimer convention is hella confusing as an outsider, and my first impression was that turtles were kinda crazy. The videos I saw gave overviews of candies without context, and some of them explicitly said they were proof of Yizhan love while still having that fake story disclaimer. Basically, it was a big confusing environment, and it's why I resisted buying into bjyx so hard for so long. It all seemed delulu.

But in reading more, I guess part of that is the point? Recognizing that gg and dd are in a vulnerable position should their relationship ever come out, having so much noise to muddy the waters makes a twisted, clownish sense. I don't know who came up with that convention or if it just kinda happened (is it a normal thing in c-ent? I don't know enough about celebrity fandoms), but hats off, I guess.

With the supertopic recently hitting 4 million active fans, there's something heartening about such a depth of support for the guys. I'm not naive enough to think all 4 million (plus international fans) are allies to LGBT folk in general, but it surely means something to ggdd to have that sort of support for their relationship. Honestly, it means something to me, as a random gay chick on the other side of the world, to see a gay couple get that kinda of support behind them.

I started watching the bts because I was afraid there'd be a lot of cynical homophobia on the set or some evidence of all the male cast being icked out by the whole thing. Instead, I got gg, who was so passionate about WWX being gay. I love that everybody knew they were telling a love story with as explicitly as they could get away with. I love that the guys wanted more Wangxian scenes and that the cast and crew made "everyday is everyday" jokes in a non-mocking way. I'm glad that the whole shoot seemed like such a positive environment for the cast and crew to being themselves and tell a type of story that they may not be able to be involved with ever again.

So, yes, this is my zen turtle place. When I set up a soapbox for myself, I didn't think too much about the fact that people would respond, but I'm so grateful to have had a chance to talk to some other turtles! Everybody is lovely and thank you for sharing my enthusiasm.

Like I said in the beginning, I don't have the time to keep super-active in the long-term. I had intended to write up my thoughts and poof away. But I do also plan to keep up with gg and dd and turtles, so instead I'm just gonna leave off with the potential for further posts down the line.

I'm not gonna be incredibly active, so please don't expect frequent updates or interactions from me. But if I have more Yizhan thoughts I'll pop up again with a post (I mean, I do have lots more thoughts, but nothing energizing enough to write about), or I'll leave a comment somewhere if I have something I simply must say. I'm also open to responding to asks about the timeline or anything else. And if I ever do stumble across anything groundbreaking with regards to the timeline, I'll probably add that in, because I'm particular about things being complete.

So thanks for being so welcoming! It's been a joy to clown around and make up completely fictional stories with everybody here. 🤡🐢🙇🏼

[freddos616]

finding out francesca is gay is fine but finding out she might have comphet does break my heart a little.

[joanofexys]

how u feeling about it being the first race week??! idk if u said something about it when it was first announced but how do u feel about lewis signing with ferrari?? i wont be able to watch the first race live because it starts at 12am for me and i have work at 6 T_T but im still super hyped!! (ANY thoughts/opinions on this season are welcome!! plz ramble it!!!)

so sorry for the late response literally minutes before the race

i am SO excited

praying for a williams in the top ten and oscar piastri podium (preferably a win but at least p2)

would LOVE to see ferraris on podium (specifically hamilton) but after qualifying they’re scaring me

also very excited for all the rookies and to see how they perform

[cozyforjate]

There were interesting Spapel moments in 2x08 but i just want to talk about one specific exchange that i believe shows Christine’s and Spock’s POV perfectly and gives us an idea of how each, views their relationship.

“You just see me going through something and our closeness makes you feel responsible.”

Christine, already having trouble bcoz of what Boimler told her and now triggered by her war trauma, reflects her relationship issues in this single line. For her, Spock is trying to help bcoz he feels responsible. She thinks, now that they are in a relationship–kind of-, he must be feeling responsible as a boyfriend, trying to do the right thing out of obligation.

“I’m having difficulty watching you experience such obvious distress. I want to help.”

Spock on the other hand feels completely different than Christine. He doesn’t want to help out of responsibility. Fuck responsibility! He just wants to make her feel better bcoz it breaks his heart to see her in such distress. He is trying to help out of love not a sense of responsibility.

I think Spock and Christine need to sit down and talk about their relationship. But this time, without nerdy quantum references. This time they need to talk about what they want, what they expect and what they can give to each other. They need to talk about their fears and struggles. They need to be honest with each other but also to themselves too! Christine once told Spock “you need to be honest with yourself about what you can give…” and now she needs to take her own advice.

The musical episode might help them express their feelings through songs and who knows maybe we might get a scene in the end where Christine opens up to Spock. If not, then in the finale.🤞🤞

[iwatcheditbegin]

Can’t wait to watch the super bowl this year

[anyataylorjoys]

A multinational kpop girl group with only one Korean member???? As someone who doesn't pay much attention to kpop, consider me intrigued....

[untilyouremember]

Date of Marriage

Available digitally (included in Mangamo subscription)

[yume-fanfare]

also mitsu.magu is one of the best things akira has done

[varilien]

am i blanchin?

girl we blanchin!!

HI HIII happy birthday to everyone's favorite mystery twins!! how did they grow up so fast!!!!

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[look-something-shiny-redux]

I'm not a monsterfucker but I respect their beliefs.