#secret of the lost kingdom

[cuttoncandyhair]

I have always wondered why there is next to no fanart of the gowns that appear in Secret of the Lost Kingdom. And while drawing them I realized the s3 gowns where in this movie, too. So I figured we could play a game where we compare the dresses and choose a favorite.

Fourth: Stella~ I was actually surprised how obvious this one turned out for me. I love Stella in yellow and I was never the biggest fan of the season 3 dress. However, I must say, the season 3 dress wins by a landslide. It is just subjectively the better design. (Imo)

I originally had ended this dress comparison with Tecna. I didn't think I would continue this series. Well, I did. Just in a different art style (bc I can't keep one art style for the life of me). Anyway, I hope you enjoy.

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Been thinking about @teawink’s ideas for their Secret of the Lost Kingdom rewrite lately…

[winxwiki]

“A moving portrait of Oritel and Marion, with me as a baby” (Bloom) - Secret of The Lost Kingdom concept art from (Behind the scenes book personal scan)

[darkpoisonouslove]

1, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 16, 22, 23 for the choose the violence asks 🔪

1. the character everyone gets wrong

Faragonda. People either think that she's secretly a villain or that she's a meek, old grandma. The villain part is really annoying because people act like Faragonda sending the Winx on life-threatening missions is a writing choice made in regards to showing her character when it's a writing choice made for the sake of plot. The writers don't care how Faragonda comes off if they can get their little plot with getting the Winx to save the day work. It's true about everything. How come she spies on the Winx but never does it when they actually need help and she could save them but at the cost of interfering with the plot? Her seemingly keeping the Agador box (4x01) is just the writers being lazy with coming up with a new design for something that will be on screen for 10 seconds. Honestly, name one of her "shady" actions that cannot be explained as a plot convenience. The other side of the spectrum is honestly just... Are you blind? She clearly has a lot more backbone than people realize, yet when that's noticed, it somehow makes her a villain. I am tired.

3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr

Somebody implying that Daphne is at fault for getting killed by the Ancestral Witches because she chose to sacrifice herself for Bloom and she could have just let her baby sister get murdered if she'd wanted to save herself. What even???????? *flips table*

4. what was the last straw that made you finally block that annoying person?

I block over too many wrong opinions or just a few opinions that are Very Wrong TM. So it's usually that. I don't try to remember what exactly made me mad.

7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?

Roxy, kind of. I don't hate her but every time I see someone whining about her not being part of the later seasons and bemoaning the fact that she was supposed to be the seventh Winx but then dissapeared, I start to hate her... until I distance myself from that part of fandom. I think Roxy has much potential in her quality of being a foil to Bloom, someone with a very similar backstory but completely different feelings on magic and being a fairy. However, the writers are so hellbent on making her Bloom 2.0 that they completely ignore the differences between the two that they themselves wrote in and the fandom just makes all of that worse when they try to shove Roxy everywhere and force her into the same mold that the Winx fit into. Roxy should have gotten to decide for herself and instead of going to Alfea should have stayed at home with her long-lost mother. Morgana was literally the queen of the Earth fairies. I bet she could have taught Roxy everything she'd learn at Alfea and more, considering that Earth seems to have a different branch of magic altogether that probably differs from the curriculum at Alfea. Plus, that way she could have spent some time with the mother that is a stranger to her and she could have found her own path instead of being forced into something she clearly didn't want just to be like the Winx and, more importantly, Bloom.

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

The idea that SotLK is a better movie than Magical Adventure. The way that Bloom makes headway in her search for her parents is so fucking random. We never learn how the Winx found Hagen, the English dub cut the part where Daphne explains why she now thinks that the Roc might have survived when, for 20 years, she believed it to have been destroyed, and the Book of Fate is the literal fucking worst plot device ever. It straight up tells them that Marion and Oritel are in Obsidian. Don't even get me started on the whole mess that happens once they get there or the search for the key to Obsidian. And the theme - if it can even be called that - is a joke.

Magical Adventure suffers from the fact that the scenes have to be in a certain sequence to make sense and keep the suspense but that sequence makes the story feel like two movies mashed into one. However, the two segments are not bad at all. Sure, there are things that don't work (ugh, that montage with the suitors - what were they thinking?!?!?!). But the movie tries to focus on Bloom's relationship with her birth parents, which the first movie completely skipped over. Bloom and Sky are actually somewhat likable. We see the Winx without magic which hasn't happened since when? Season 1? The Ancestral Witches are actually scary when they possess the Trix and the fights are interesting and creative. Plus, there is a coherent theme about how parents' actions affect their children (there was another nuance here that I can't remember now because it's been a while since I watched it).

Anyway, Magical Adventure supremacy.

9. worst part of canon

I already talked about all the bullshit in SotLK and besides I really hate what they did with Zenith. The source of most technological advancements and, of course, they made the whole society be logic-based and emotionless. I. Cannot. Stand. It! They should have made Zenith's technology come from a place of empathy, of wanting to improve life so much for everyone that they become too focused on their work and don't notice how they isolate themselves from everyone else, including each other. It would have been so much more interesting and they could have kept Tecna as a logic-driven person, who's not good with feelings because that's just who she is. She'd fit even better with Winx if she comes from a planet so dedicated to helping everyone else that they neglect themselves and their emotions.

10. worst part of fanon

Blorboifying Valtor. I'm sorry but if you think you want a real-life Valtor, you need to go outside and touch grass. Not to mention that Valtor stans in general seem to have a very distorted view of him. This man has the temper and anger management of a fucking toddler. The only reason why he manages to remain collected and calm a lot of the time is because pretty much no one can stand up to him and pose a threat to his plans and his ego. At the same time somehow people completely miss the fact that he's vain and self-centered and clinging so desperately to his charisma and skills because he knows that deep down he is nothing more than a monster that was created to be a tool for the Ancestral Witches and he hates that. He's practically in constant denial mode about how truly sad his existence is.

12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them

Krystal! She's already at a disadvantage because she's introduced in season 5 AND is instantly shoved in the bullshit drama between Helia and Flora. I have seen people hate on her and call her a shady bitch when all she's done is be overexcited about seeing Helia and managing to defeat the Winx at volleyball and then realizing that maybe the situation came off wrong to Flora and trying to talk to her and tell her that Helia only loves her and he and Krystal are just friends. She's just an excitable teen and she's not at fault for Helia acting weird as fuck and introducing Flora to her as his "friend" as if they haven't been dating for 3 years. Smh. #JusticeForKrystal2kforever

14. that one thing you see in fics all the time

Giving alien features to the girls. Like, I get it but it's always surface level because in the end it's so much easier to work with humanoid characters that you don't have to invent a whole new biology for. It seems completely pointless and usually doesn't come into play a lot. It feels like it's added more for diversity points rather than because it's fun or interesting.

16. you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

Making Flora a drug dealer. The "Flora does recreational drugs" take honestly feels like people are desperately trying to make her interesting because they don't like her as she's portrayed on the show. And the idea of "Flora is okay with parts of nature that are dangerous and volatile" somehow always seems to lead to "give Flora a gun" when the two have nothing to do with each other. Flora wanting to protect all nature as it is is one of her defining traits. It feels like people are trying to erase her gentleness because they think that a mild-mannered character is worthless. Honestly, the show doesn't help. They make her empathy come down to "don't hurt it" even when the "it" in question is trying to kill her friends. They could have improved on that by letting Flora specialize in restraining spells that don't hurt the creature they're used on so that she can protect her friends and stick to her beliefs.

22. your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores

The Company of Light. Even the writers ignore it because a) they did not think it through when they added that backstory and created several plot holes, b) they never did anything with it (for the last time - where's the fucking spin-off?!?!?!?!) and c) they constantly make all of the Company members appear incompetent and weaker than they are for the sake of the plot and letting the Winx in the spotlight. Give these people screen time! They are interesting and important! *cries*

23. ship you've unwillingly come around to

I guess Blicy. I just didn't understand why Icy would want to date Bloom but I read a really good fic and I can see it now.

[winx-is-magic]

Ideas for the Winx reboot I'll never write because I'm lazy part 2

Bloom will not achieve Enchantix until "Secret of the lost kingdom"

It bothers me how Bloom earned Enchantix just because she wanted to, while the others have risked their life. It's not fair that she gets the special treatment only for being the protagonist, so in my rewrite she will earn it only by saving her planet in "Secret of the lost kingdom".

Since she will not be an Enchantix fairy during season 3, this means that she cannot use her fairy dust to defeat Valtor. Instead, she'll use a much more complicated spell that she learned on Pyros.

Tecna will earn Enchantix by saving someone from Zenith

As I mentioned in my previous post, it doesn't make sense that she earns it by closing the Omega portal. Altough this is a great sacrifice, it doesn't met the requirement for achieving Enchantix. For this reason, in my version she will earn it by saving Timmy, who comes from Zenith. She will still sacrifice herself to close the Omega portal, but it will not be how she becomes an Enchantix.

Stella will get over her parents' divorce

I think the original screenwriters should have done that by season 3, but who cares, right? Let her carry this trauma forever, I'm sure she doesn't need to talk about this to her parents in order to heal 🙄

In "At the last moment" (season 3, episode 19), after she breaks the spell that Cassandra has put on her father, Stella tells him that, at her Princess Ball, she hoped the surprise he talked to her about was the reconciliation between him and her mother, and was shocked to learn that he and Cassandra had gotten engaged. She also tells him that she suffered a lot when him and her mother got divorced. His father replies that they were no longer happy together, and thought it was best for everyone if they ended their marriage, so that Stella could live in a better environment and were no longer forced to witness their fights. She is surprised to learn that her parents divorce was mainly to preserve her well-being, while, from her perspective, it made things worse. King Radius tells her that both him and her mother love her and that all they have done was to make her happy. Stella understands she was wrong to think that her parents were being selfish and didn't consider her feelings when they broke up, and feels better now.

Some couples will not exist / will not appear until later seasons

I think it's unrealistic that, in a friend group made of six girls, all of them have a boyfriend. I understand if we are talking about a smaller group (and by small I mean something like three people), but a group of six? That's strange (although not impossible).

As for the couples I chose to exclude from the rewrite, they are Aisha and Nabu and Musa and Riven. The first because their relationship was so rushed that I find it difficult to believe they really fell in love, and the second because they fight so much and have a lot of drama (and I hate useless drama).

Sky and Bloom will be each other's love interest in season 1, but they will not become a couple until the middle of season 2, because she has to recover from the insane amount of stress she has gone through after the Trix stole her powers. Plus, she will not be interested in fake Avalon (as I said, I hate useless drama).

Charmix will be introduced at the beginning of the second season

I believe that introducing Charmix at the end of season 2 without having mentioned it before was a dumb decision. It's clear that this was a last minute idea and they didn't have the time to edit the previous episodes in order to fit it into the story. Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly understandable (I can only imagine the pain in the butt it causes to re-animate a lot of episodes), but I think that they should have recycled the Charmix concept for the next season instead of making a mess by introducing it in the last episodes.

In this rewrite, Charmix will be nominated for fhe first time when Faragonda introduces fake Avalon to the students, and it will be a requirement to pass the final exam of the second year.

There will be no Downland subplot

I sincerely don't understand why they added this, it's useless and slows down the plot. Just think that, because of the Amentia drama, the mission to rescue the Pixies lasts four episodes. Four. The others usually last one, maximum two. And since it isn't necessary, I don't understand why I should include it in the plot.

There will be less filler episodes in season 1 and 2

Just like the Downland arc, they slow down the main plot, and I would like to focus more on it. They will be present, just in a smaller number compared to the original show.

The episodes that will disappear are 1x07, 1x12, 1x15, 1x24, 1x25, 2x04, 2x06, 2x07, 2x13, 2x14 and 2x16.

As for season 3, episode 7 will be completely different. After detention, Bloom goes to Light Rock to spend some time with Daphne. She informs her about Valtor escaping from the Omega Dimension and causing chaos. Daphne then tells her sister about the Company of Light, and warns her to not let Valtor know who she is.

[thewickedmerman]

Mandragora

Well, I have done my redesign of arguably the least cared about villain, Mandragora, who only appears in Secret of the Lost Kingdom. One of the reasons she's not really thought of as much of a villain is because her English voices in both the Dubbing Brothers and Nick dubs are SOOOOOO over-the-top and cheesy to where she loses her sinister presence. I mean, she took control of Riven's mind, caused MASSIVE destruction to Alfea, had the good guys at her mercy, and nearly choked Bloom to death. So it's really her English voices that are ruining her character. But I also wanted to make her more active in my version of Winx Club. And I gotta say that it was really HARD to do an edit of her because of how she isn't seen in 2D.

Anyway, Mandragora is a loyal minion to The Ancestral Witches and created Selina. She is still the witch of insects. She was also the Shaman Witch that destroyed Icy's home world, Dyamond and turned Icy's younger sister Sapphire into a sapphire statue. All this was part of The Ancestral Witches plan to send Icy down a dark path to form the next generation of the coven.

Well, I ended up doing an image to go with the backstory I gave Icy, which is an edited version of the backstory she got in season 8. One change being that Dyamond was originally a kingdom of ice and snow but was turned into a barren desert planet. Making Sapphire was a MAJOR pain to turn into a statue made of a sapphire gem stone. Well, I might as well add her backstory here as well.

I'm keeping her backstory that she gets in season 8 where she was a princess of a planet called Dyamond and it was destroyed by a witch, who also turned her younger sister Sapphire into a fox. However, what I would change is that I would have the witch really be Mandragora in disguised who was sent by the Ancestral Witches with the intention of sending either Icy or Sapphire (Who are descended from the head witch, Belladonna) down a dark path in order to form a new generation of the coven, steal three great powers (The Great Dragon, The Shadow Phoenix, and The Leviathan), take over the magical universe, and free them from Obsidian. However, instead of Sapphire (Who was 10 at the time) being turned into a fox, I had her turned into a statue made out of a sapphire gem. The rest of Dyamond wasn't so lucky and died, while Icy, at the mere age of 13, was the sole survivor. Also, instead of the planet being turned into a snowy wasteland (Icy's powers are snow and ice so why wouldn't the world already be a world of snow and ice), it is instead turned into a heated desert of sand and no life. Icy then decided to seek out vengeance against the witch who did this by becoming the most powerful witch in the universe. She planned to free Sapphire from her frozen state when she became powerful enough. However, as she continued on her path, she became more power hungry and bitter about how she was always good and kind but she still ended up suffering the fate of the life she knew being taken from her. She wanted to take over the universe as a queen to make up for the crown that was rightfully hers being taken from her. In my version of the last season, where The Trix team up with their Ancesters, she finds out about this being their plan and destroys them with the Winx Club. Redemption arc? Maybe....

I love how the backstory is similar to Bloom's because it adds something to their dynamic and shows how two people can react very differently to the same tragedy.

Credit for the character base goes to SelenaEde of DeviantArt

Credit for the background goes to SparxGuardian of DeviantArt

[folkloristico]

I’ve been rewatching The Secret of The Lost Kingdom because of Reason™️ and every time I try to understand what’s going on and why are things happening the way they are, it feels as though I’m missing so much stuff. Maybe I’m just dumb, but what’s Mandragora’s deal? The wiki says she’s Obsidian keeper, but if that’s the case how do Faragonda and Hagen instantly recognize her when she attacks Alfea?

The whole Obsidian subplot doesn’t make sense considering the whole Company was there when the portal was open and they must’ve known where it led to even before Oritel and Marion were sucked in it, but back to the Ancestral Witches—are they dumb or something? You’re telling me they just had the chance to give their power to Mandragora this whole time and they never took it before today? Not to kill the rest of their enemies, even if just for revenge? Not to go after the Dragon Flame? Not even to help Valtor when he came back?

Why did they wait so long to go after Bloom if the reason they unleashed a war upon Domino in the first place was because they were after the Dragon Flame? They must’ve known Daphne had entrusted it to her little sister—or did they just randomly assume it was gone somewhere?

[magixwitch]

I forgot the first winx movie was so good ngl

Altough they made helia’s hair violet and that was an interesting choice

[daydreamsia]

some of my thoughts on Secret of the Lost Kingdom:

Faragonda×Hagen, huh? They have the best chemestry out of any of the couples in the entire movie!

i dislike Rivens hairstyle as much as Musa×Riven (i'll die on that hill)

i refuse to belife the Winx (minus Bloom) are the only ones graduating

Purr (horrible name) is THE CUTEST but Bloom already has Kiko!

the mission of find Blooms parents is fine... but in my opinion they should just be dead. instead the movie could be about releasing Daphnes spirit which would be tied to Domino

what even are the suits of the Winx? i mean - nice extra protection for the shoulders and knees... but why also their boobs?

where is Nabu?

Stellas voice is highly annoying

Mirta is using dark magic? why would she? it's her third year at Alfea

The Pixies just appearing surprised me. I didn't spend a secon thinking where they might be and then they were back. But apparently only for that scene

Bloom should really just listen when Sky talks to her and wants to tell her something important. This kind of bad communication is just bad writing and really frustrating

how cute of Oritel and Marion to invite Mike and Vanessa

look at the way Mike is checking out Oritel xD

and there is Nabu! i missed him

i don't know why it's bothering me so much but Sky's eyebrows change color every other scene - from blonde to brown and back to blonde xD

wait! hold on! the last scene with the Trix - was there ever anything added to taht?

final thoughts on the movie:

it would have been more interesting if the movie was about Bloom trying to complete her Enchantix. She should have to fight her dark side (Dark Bloom) and maybe give up the power of the Dragon Flame to release Daphnes Spirit from being bound to Domino (which can't be saved anymore).

Maybe she can combine her light and dark side and become a balanced sorceress. The Sorceress of the Healing Flame maybe?

I like the idea and will definetely work on it for my au.

+ final thoughts from someone who is learning cg and vfx at the moment:

the cg is fine... when you keep in mind which year the movie was made and that they probably didn't have the biggest budget. the animation is actually pretty good tho.

[choco-deer]

how can i watch secret of the lost kingdom movie with the deleted scenes? i am trying to find it in any language but i can't, please help

[adreamthatsworthkeeping]

Why did we change Miriam to Marion in the Winx movie??

[cuttoncandyhair]

I have always wondered why there is next to no fanart of the gowns that appear in Secret of the Lost Kingdom. And while drawing them I realized the s3 gowns where in this movie, too. So I figured we could play a game where we compare the dresses and choose a favorite.

Second off: Bloom! Which gown do you prefer? They are so different. I love them both, each in it's own way.

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Revenge of the Underrated

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Secret of the Lost Kingdom press screenshots from Rainbow CGI's website

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VARIGO PIECE I DID FOR A SECRET SANTA !!! :D !!

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